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Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Nobody: 2:25pm On Sep 23, 2014
ooman:

And now, you think otherwise?

Not really. I get involved when I either want to refresh my mind for the next round of work in the office or when I am a bit too bored to do something else. Either way, the debates can be a bit monotonous and largely unproductive.
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by ooman(m): 2:40pm On Sep 23, 2014
Missonas:

Exactly

Don't misunderstand me, am an atheist!
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by ooman(m): 2:43pm On Sep 23, 2014
striktlymi:

Not really. I get involved when I either want to refresh my mind for the next round of work in the office or when I am a bit too bored to do something else. Either way, the debates can be a bit monotonous and largely unproductive.

ok...
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by PastorKun(m): 2:53pm On Sep 23, 2014
striktlymi:

Not really. I get involved when I either want to refresh my mind for the next round of work in the office or when I am a bit too bored to do something else. Either way, the debates can be a bit monotonous and largely unproductive.

No wonder you are always playing the devil's advocate.
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Youngsage: 3:02pm On Sep 23, 2014
honeychild: Sura 9:5 -
When the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters, wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor rate, leave their way free. Surely Allah is forgiving, Merciful.

Sura 9:123- Oh you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find firmness with you. And know that Allah is with those who keep their duty.


@OP
I don't know where you live o, or how old you are, but as for me, a Nigerian who grew up in Kaduna State in the eightees and nineties, you can never convince me that violence and terrorism is not a facet of Islam.

I witnessed too many incidences of Muslims pouring out of a mosque after Friday prayers and embarking on a killing, looting and burning spree, all the while shouting Allahu Akbar!

If people come out of a worship session and immediately begin to kill and destroy, that sounds like they were enjoined to do so by their religious leaders.

Try all you can to whitewash Islam it cannot work. It's a religion of violence, it was spread by violence. And violence against other religions is a command for all Muslims.

'Pursue the infidels. Slay them wherever you find them." So says your holy book. Those terrorists are the real Muslims.
Exactly.
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Missonas(f): 3:05pm On Sep 23, 2014
ooman:

Don't misunderstand me, am an atheist!

Oh ok!Still arguements run till infinity...still not worth it
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Nobody: 4:02pm On Sep 23, 2014
PastorKun:

No wonder you are always playing the devil's advocate.

Probably, but I still say it the way I think it is.
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Alisha4U(f): 5:38pm On Sep 23, 2014
striktlymi:

I am always Catholic.

I believe ISIL to be a terror group which is giving Islam a very bad name.

Get your facts right, Islam advocates violence in all its forms. They are calld a religion of peace hoping that would influence them to be peaceful. Read.
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Nobody: 5:43pm On Sep 23, 2014
Alisha4U:

Get your facts right, Islam advocates violence in all its forms. They are calld a religion of peace hoping that would influence them to be peaceful. Read.

Which fact have you presented?
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Nobody: 6:13pm On Sep 23, 2014
PastorKun:

Are you this daft or you are just intentionally being stoopid

He's a muslim

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Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Nobody: 6:28pm On Sep 23, 2014
Were Mohammeds wars offensive, let's examine the most important battle in Mohammeds lifetime. The battle of badr.

In late 623 and early 624, the Muslim ghazawāt grew increasingly brazen and commonplace. In September 623, Muhammad himself led a force of 200 in an unsuccessful raid against a large caravan. Shortly thereafter, the Meccans launched their own "raid" against Medina, although its purpose was just to steal some livestock which belonged to the Muslims.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Badr
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by malvisguy212: 8:48pm On Sep 23, 2014
yazach: [/s]

@bold, you need to answer these questions
1- In the old time why was it that God did not give them the so call grace you claim to have been given now?

2- In your judgment will you say God was so cruel by asking those people to fight?

Don't forget the following word of Jesus

◄ Luke 12:49 ►

New International Version
"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!
50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division.


New Living Translation
Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other!
God promise to gives us his grace start from genesis when he substitute isaac for a lamb.


Luke12:49-53 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three
against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and
daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and
daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

verse 49 mean> the gospel of christ is like a two ege sword ,fire and a stumbling blok for people like you, who's heart has been harden


verse 50 mean> "but" there is hope for you, through the baptism,buried your sin and alive in christ.

verse 51-53 mean>"prophecy"because of jesus family will hate each other, father against children and children against father. Today we see this happen when a boy convert to christian to in a muslim family to follow christ , the father will condemed him to death.

Can you do justice in answering my qustion?
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by malvisguy212: 8:55pm On Sep 23, 2014
striktlymi:

Which fact have you presented?
all the war and the old testement law in the bible, have you her'ed of a christian mis interpret it for terror? Even if there is, nobody will follow him, but why only in islam they misinterpret verses for there evil act? The book they read is very clear for everyone to understand.
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by HolyHolla(m): 10:05pm On Sep 23, 2014
Somebody needs to tell me who the real Muslim is...

Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by nosike3(m): 10:24pm On Sep 23, 2014
Bleep mohammed n your allah!! Yeske!! Oya mudafvker tunji ban me!
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:42pm On Sep 23, 2014
THE PROBLEM U CHRISTIAN HAVE IS THAT U DONT EVEN SIT DOWN ONE DAY AND THINK WHAT IS RELIGION?IS IT WHAT I PRACTISE BECAUSE MY PARENT ARE PRACTICING IT?
OR AM I PRCTICING IT BECAUSE I CONSIDER IT AS A WAY?
CHRISTIANITY ISNT A RELIGION CHECK MY PROFILE FOR MORE DETAIL AND ALSO FOLLOW THIS LINK
www.nairaland.com/739943/demolishing-falsehood-christianity-bible
U WILL SEE THE TRUTH
CHECK MY SIGNATURE IT JUSTIFY THAT THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION
IF U CAN READ THE QURAN YOU WILL DISCOVER THAT ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE ISLAM DONT ALLOW UNJUST KILLING WHAT ISLAM MEANS IS TOTAL SUMISSION TO GOD UNCONDITIONALLY
BUT U CHRISTIANS U WORSHIP A PROPHET INSTEAD OF GOD
THAT IS WHY I ALWAYS SAY THAT ALL CHRISTIAN DONT FOLLOW THE TEACHING OF JESUS
ONLY MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM TRUTHFULLY LIKE I SAID CHECK MY PROFILE FOR MORE REALITY
AND ALSO FOLLOW THIS LINK
www.nairaland.com/739943/demolishing-falsehood-christianity-bible
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:45pm On Sep 23, 2014
1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden
in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that
God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is
forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a
crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it
be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall
be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it
shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in
Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on
other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in
religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The
Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in
622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse
of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into
adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.
3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says,
“But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline
towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears
and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,”
2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight
against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not
aggressors.”
4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can
declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly
constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in
the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime
minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national
jurisconsult.
5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden.
According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first
Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in
ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm;
do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any
town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which
groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion
rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces
for money or power. The principle of forbidding the spreading
of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida
5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman
Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d.
464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who
disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe
to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking
money, killing people or violating what God has made it
unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”
7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must
give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The Prophet
Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.
8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those
who harm you and is said to have commanded , “Do not be
people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat
you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you
will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do
good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do
evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice
toward people even where they have reason to be angry with
them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from
being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]

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Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Nobody: 4:24am On Sep 24, 2014
malvisguy212: all the war and the old testement law in the bible, have you her'ed of a christian mis interpret it for terror? Even if there is, nobody will follow him, but why only in islam they misinterpret verses for there evil act? The book they read is very clear for everyone to understand.

There are active terror groups with a sizeable followership by some who associate themselves with Christianity.
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by HolyHolla(m): 4:55am On Sep 24, 2014
Abdulsalam20: 1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden
in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that
God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is
forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a
crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it
be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall
be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it
shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in
Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on
other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in
religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The
Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in
622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse
of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into
adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.
3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says,
“But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline
towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears
and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,”
2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight
against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not
aggressors.”
4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can
declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly
constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in
the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime
minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national
jurisconsult.
5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden.
According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first
Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in
ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm;
do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any
town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which
groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion
rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces
for money or power. The principle of forbidding the spreading
of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida
5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman
Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d.
464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who
disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe
to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking
money, killing people or violating what God has made it
unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”
7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must
give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The Prophet
Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.
8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those
who harm you and is said to have commanded , “Do not be
people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat
you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you
will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do
good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do
evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice
toward people even where they have reason to be angry with
them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from
being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]

I love this very articulate write up. Much more sensible to defend your religious beliefs than engage in attacking those who oppose the wrong practices. The essence of this post by the Op is served better when we condemn the actions of those extremists than attacking other religions or just hiding our faces behind a single finger. If all Muslims could practice your teachings, there would be a better chance for peaceful co-existence between all peoples.

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Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by HolyHolla(m): 7:59am On Sep 24, 2014
Abdulsalam20: THE PROBLEM U CHRISTIAN HAVE IS THAT U DONT EVEN SIT DOWN ONE DAY AND THINK WHAT IS RELIGION?IS IT WHAT I PRACTISE BECAUSE MY PARENT ARE PRACTICING IT?
OR AM I PRCTICING IT BECAUSE I CONSIDER IT AS A WAY?
CHRISTIANITY ISNT A RELIGION CHECK MY PROFILE FOR MORE DETAIL AND ALSO FOLLOW THIS LINK
www.nairaland.com/739943/demolishing-falsehood-christianity-bible
U WILL SEE THE TRUTH
CHECK MY SIGNATURE IT JUSTIFY THAT THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION
IF U CAN READ THE QURAN YOU WILL DISCOVER THAT ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE ISLAM DONT ALLOW UNJUST KILLING WHAT ISLAM MEANS IS TOTAL SUMISSION TO GOD UNCONDITIONALLY
BUT U CHRISTIANS U WORSHIP A PROPHET INSTEAD OF GOD
THAT IS WHY I ALWAYS SAY THAT ALL CHRISTIAN DONT FOLLOW THE TEACHING OF JESUS
ONLY MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM TRUTHFULLY LIKE I SAID CHECK MY PROFILE FOR MORE REALITY
AND ALSO FOLLOW THIS LINK
www.nairaland.com/739943/demolishing-falsehood-christianity-bible

Chew on these mate. And have you ever googled 'Dabiq'? Try it.

Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by malvisguy212: 8:50am On Sep 24, 2014
striktlymi:

There are active terror groups with a sizeable followership by some who associate themselves with Christianity.
please, can you name the terror group and the name of there leader?

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Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:18am On Sep 24, 2014
malvisguy212: please, can you name the terror group and the name of there leader?
WHO ARE BOKO HARAM?!!
(1) Mr. John Alaku Akpavan, the
man arrested attempt to bomb
Radio House Abuja were christian.
(2) Lydia Joseph (the failed
bomber of St. John Catholic
Cathedral) of Bauchi State who
attempted to bomb a church on
September 12,2011.; was
christian.
(3) Augustine Effiong akwa ibon
indigene carry april 29th 2012
attack in connection with BUK
bomb attack.” Was christian.
(4) Emmanuel King arrested in
attempt to bomb the Redeemed
Christian Church of God (RCCG) in
Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital,
while camouflaged in Islamic
attire on December 28, 2011.
(5) Igbo traders that gunned
down a dozen fellow Igbo
businessmen of the same non-
Islamic faith inside the Christ
Apostolic Church, in Adamawa
State on Friday, January 6, 2012.
(6) Samson Mangai who was
arrested in Plateau state
attempting to bomb a church was
christian fellower.
(7) Madam Ruth, who attempted
to bomb the ECWA church,
Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State
on 12 Mar 2012. She Was cristian
fellower.
(cool Case of the arrest of about
eight Christians in Bauchi in an
attempt to blast the COCIN church
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(9) Case of the Christian bomber
lynched while escaping after
blasting the COCIN Church of Jos
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(10) Mr Alex Danladi involved in
COCIN HQ bombing was lynched
by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military
uniform.
(11) jonathan Gyanet, police
officer was arrested attempt to
bomb ERCC church in
Akwanga nasarawa state on Apri
20 2014. Was christian.
(12) The pastor's case in Osun state still fresh in our mind# fact!
CAN WE STILL CALL IT MUSLIMS'
AGENDA
THANK GOD THE PLANE CAN PRESIDENT WANT TO USE TO PURCHASE AMMUNITION ROM UN AUTHORISED AGENT IN SOUTH AFRICA WAS DISCOVERED AND NOW SINCE NO MORE AMMUNITION FOR THEM THEY ARE NOW SURRENDERING VOLUNTARILY.....IF U CAN READ MY EARLIAER POST U WILL DISCOVER THAT ISLAM BY NO WAY SUPPORT TERRORISM
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:27am On Sep 24, 2014
The horrible truth is that, numerically and statistically
speaking, Christian Civilization is the bloodiest and most
violent of all civilizations in all of history, and is
responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths. Even so,
Muslims will never associate this violence and blood bath
with the teachings of Jesus (peace be on him).
1. Saint Augustine’s cognite
intrare (“lead them in”—
i.e. “force them to
convert”). In fact the
Qur’an says the exact
opposite: There is no
compulsion in religion
( 2:256 ). Augustine’s
frightening idea that all
must be compelled to
“conform” to the “true
Christian faith” has
unleashed centuries of
unparalleled bloodshed.
Indeed, Christians have
suffered more under the
rule of Christian
civilization than under
pre- Christian Roman rule
or any other rule in
history.
Millions were tortured
and slaughtered in the
name of Christianity
during the periods of the
Arian, Donatist and
Albigensian heresies
2. The Crusades
The European armies
were saying, as they
slaughtered both
Christian and Muslim
Arabs: “Kill them all, God
will know his own.”
3. The African slave trade Claimed the lives of 10
million
4. The Colonial Conquests
Estimates for the number
of Native Americans
slaughtered by the
Europeans in North,
Central and South
America run as high as 20
million within three
generations.
5. The 20 th century's
Western Civilization took
warfare to new extremes
A conservative estimate
puts the total number of
brutal deaths in the 20 th
century at more than 250
million. Of these, Muslims
are responsible for less
than 10 million deaths.
Christians, or those
coming from Christian
backgrounds account for
more than 200 million of
these! The greatest death
totals come from World
War I (about 20 million,
at least 90 % of which
were inflicted by
“Christians”) and World
War II ( 90 million, at
least 50% of which were
inflicted by “Christians,”
the majority of the rest
occurring in the Far East).
Given this grim history, it
appears that we
Europeans must all come
to grips with the fact that
Islamic civilization has
actually been
incomparably less brutal
than Christian civilization.
Did the Holocaust of over
6 million Jews occur out of
the background of a
Muslim Civilization?
6. In the 20th century alone
Western and/or Christian
powers have been
responsible for at least
twenty times more deaths
than have Muslim powers.
In this most brutal of
centuries, we created
incomparably more
civilian casualties than
have Muslims in the
whole of Islamic history.
In the 20th century,
Rawanda, 1994
Witness the slaughter of
900,000 Rwandans in 1994
in a population that was
over 90 % Christian
1992-1995 Bosnia
The genocide of over
300,000 Muslims and
systematic rape of over
100,000 Muslim women
by Christian Serbs
Western popular culture
It should also be
mentioned that although
Islam has the concept of
legitimate war in self-
defense (as does
Christianity, and even
Buddhism), nowhere in
Islamic culture (or in
other cultures that
survive today) is there
latent the idealization,
and perhaps idolization,
of violence that exists in
Western Culture.
Westerners think of
themselves as peaceful,
but in fact the gentleness
and sublimity of the New
Testament, and the peace-
loving nature of the
principles of democracy,
are scarcely reflected in
Western popular culture.
Rather, the entire
inclination of popular
culture— Hollywood
movies, Western
television, video games,
popular music and sports
entertainment—is to
glorify and inculcate
violence. Accordingly, the
relative rates of murder
(especially random and
serial murder) are higher
in the Western World
(particularly in the U.S.,
but even in Europe, taken
as a whole) than they are
in the Islamic world in
counties that are not
suffering civil wars, and
this true despite the much
greater wealth of the
West.

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Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by honeychild(f): 11:17am On Sep 24, 2014
@Abdulsalam20

I am really shocked at the list of Christians who have participated in church bombings. I have never actually heard of this. I would like to verify this information. Any links?
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by HolyHolla(m): 12:13pm On Sep 24, 2014
[quote author=Abdulsalam20]
WHO ARE BOKO HARAM?!!
(1) Mr. John Alaku Akpavan, the
man arrested attempt to bomb
Radio House Abuja were christian...

A very good dig into historical incidents of 'Christians' implicated in dastardly acts that can pass for terrorism in Nigeria. From this, it's certain that people of all faith could be terrorists. Now, how about giving us those incidents of Muslims implicated in the same acts to help us justify your claims that the Christians alone are the real BH? I bet, that would fill up over a hundred pages on this thread if you try hard enough the same way.

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Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by PastorKun(m): 12:23pm On Sep 24, 2014
honeychild: @Abdulsalam20

I am really shocked at the list of Christians who have participated in church bombings. I have never actually heard of this. I would like to verify this information. Any links?

Don't mind him, he is obviously lying. Lying to defend Islam(tequiya) is actually a virtue in Islam.

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Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by HolyHolla(m): 12:24pm On Sep 24, 2014
Abdulsalam20: The horrible truth is that, numerically and statistically
speaking, Christian Civilization is the bloodiest and most
violent of all civilizations in all of history, and is
responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths....

Of course, I agree with you that the Christian civilization has been implicated in more deaths due to persecution of their own and people of other faith. All these acts perpetrated in historical antecedents are completely condemnable. But one needs to wonder whether in this 21st Century, Muslims are currently trying to outdo the evils of the Christians, or what.

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Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by HolyHolla(m): 1:03pm On Sep 24, 2014
PastorKun:

Don't mind him, he is obviously lying. Lying to defend Islam(tequiya) is actually a virtue in Islam.

PastorKun, let us give him the privilege of saying he is right that some of these cases actually occurred, although many were merely fabricated or tuned to butress his point. What I will really want Abdulsalam20 to prove to us is that Christian theology justifies such acts just as the quran justifies terrorist jihads.

Jesus, whom the Christians follow His teachings never fought any war nor encouraged His followers on such course. But historical antecedents of Islam is filled with wars of attrition and conquests. Mohammed himself wrote and demonstrated that his followers must perpetually live by war, he himself having been a warrior leader. It does not come as a surprise to me as the Bible predicted long before that the sons of Ishmael would live like terrorists.

Genesis 16 [11 ] "And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
[12 ]"And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren." What we see currently as Islamic terrorism is a fulfillment of this.

Differences Between Muhammad (Islamic teachings) and Jesus (Christian teachings):

Muhammad... #SaidAllah hates those who don't accept Islam. (Qur'an 30:45, 3:32, 22:38) #JesusSaid God loves everyone. (John 3:16) Muhammad...#"I have been commanded to fight against people till they testifythat there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) #Jesus "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52) Muhammad...# Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) #Jesus "Let he who is without sin castthe firststone." (John 8:7) Muhammad... #Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) #Jesus Beheaded no one. Muhammad... #Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) #Jesus Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) Muhammad...#"If then anyone transgressesthe prohibition against you, Transgressye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194) #Jesus "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) Muhammad... #Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) #Jesus "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) Muhammad... #Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50) #Jesus...Was celibate. Muhammad... #Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) #Jesus. Did not have sex with children. Muhammad #Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) #Jesus...Never #harmed a woman. Muhammad...#"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123) #Jesus..."Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5)


Now check this Quranic verses out: Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them( 2:191 ) Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood ( 9:123 ) When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them ( 9:5 ) Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax ( 9:29 ) Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable ( 3:85 ) The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them ( 9:30 ) Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam.( 5:33 ) The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque ( 9:28 ) Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies ( 22:19 ) Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them ( 47:4 ) The unbelievers are silly; urge the Muslims to fightthem ( 8:65 ) Muslims mustnot take the infidels as friends ( 3:28 ) Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an ( 8:12 ) Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels ( 8:60 )
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by HolyHolla(m): 1:09pm On Sep 24, 2014
Abdulsalam20:
WHO ARE BOKO HARAM?!!
(1) Mr. John Alaku Akpavan, the
man arrested attempt to bomb
Radio House Abuja were christian.
(2) Lydia Joseph (the failed
bomber of St. John Catholic
Cathedral) of Bauchi State who
attempted to bomb a church on
September 12,2011.; was
christian.
(3) Augustine Effiong akwa ibon
indigene carry april 29th 2012
attack in connection with BUK
bomb attack.” Was christian.
(4) Emmanuel King arrested in
attempt to bomb the Redeemed
Christian Church of God (RCCG) in
Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital,
while camouflaged in Islamic
attire on December 28, 2011.
(5) Igbo traders that gunned
down a dozen fellow Igbo
businessmen of the same non-
Islamic faith inside the Christ
Apostolic Church, in Adamawa
State on Friday, January 6, 2012.
(6) Samson Mangai who was
arrested in Plateau state
attempting to bomb a church was
christian fellower.
(7) Madam Ruth, who attempted
to bomb the ECWA church,
Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State
on 12 Mar 2012. She Was cristian
fellower.
(cool Case of the arrest of about
eight Christians in Bauchi in an
attempt to blast the COCIN church
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(9) Case of the Christian bomber
lynched while escaping after
blasting the COCIN Church of Jos
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(10) Mr Alex Danladi involved in
COCIN HQ bombing was lynched
by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military
uniform.
(11) jonathan Gyanet, police
officer was arrested attempt to
bomb ERCC church in
Akwanga nasarawa state on Apri
20 2014. Was christian.
(12) The pastor's case in Osun state still fresh in our mind# fact!
CAN WE STILL CALL IT MUSLIMS'
AGENDA
THANK GOD THE PLANE CAN PRESIDENT WANT TO USE TO PURCHASE AMMUNITION ROM UN AUTHORISED AGENT IN SOUTH AFRICA WAS DISCOVERED AND NOW SINCE NO MORE AMMUNITION FOR THEM THEY ARE NOW SURRENDERING VOLUNTARILY.....IF U CAN READ MY EARLIAER POST U WILL DISCOVER THAT ISLAM BY NO WAY SUPPORT TERRORISM


Below is a drafted list of killings perpetuated against the Northern Christians by Muslims in the far Northwest, Northeast, and North centralGeopolitical Region (the Middle Belt) even before Boko Haram:

1). 1980 May: 2467 Christians killed in Zaria 2). 1980 December 18‐20 Riots in Kano. The Maitatsine sect, 4,177 were killed (Mostly Christians and Easterners). 3). 1982 September 29-October 3. Disturbances in Kaduna, Kaduna State. 53 killed and many churches were burned. 4). 1982 October 29‐30. Further trouble in Maiduguri, Borno State by the Maitatsine sects.118 died. 5). 1984 February 27-March 5. Disturbance in Yola, then Gongola State by the Maitatsine sect,568 died. Mostly Christians 6). 1985 April 26‐28: Riot in Gombe, Bauchi State by the Maitatsine sect.105 Mostly Christians died. 7). 1987 March 5th and subsequentdays. In Kafanchan, Kaduna State, Christians defendedthemselves against the rampaging killer extremist Muslims at the College of Education.100 Churches were burnt. cool. 1987 March. Katsina, Funtua, Zaria, Gussau and Kaduna (Kaduna State). A wave of religious riots, many churches were burntand property destroyed,and many lives were lost. 9). 1991 April In Katsina, several lives were lost. Shiite sectin Katsina led by Malam Yahaya Yakubu. 10). 1991 April, in Tafawa Balewa University(Bauchi State) over 200 lives were lost with properties and 20 churches destroyed. 11). 1991 October 14‐ 15. In Kano, the attemptof the Izala sect to stopRev. Bonnke from preaching became violent. Thousands of Christians diedand property destroyed.Conservativeestimates (3800) 12). 1992 February 6th and then May 15‐16: Zango Kataf, Zaria, Kaduna State Communal clash becomes a religious clash, with lives and property destroyed. 13). Funtua (Katsina State). Kalakato religious sect assaulted a village head. Over 50 lives were lost and properties destroyed. 14). 1999. May 20. Muslim‐Christian riots in Kaduna, for three days, several hundred were feared dead.3200 conservative estimate, mostly Christians 15). 1999. July 18: Hausa and Yoruba riot in Shagamu, over 60 are killed. This led to trouble in Kano where over 70 were killed. 16). 2000 August11. About 200 were killed as the army intervened in Taraba State 2000 October. Sharia Law in is introduced in Zamfara State afterour bearded Governor returned from Osama Bin Laden's School of terrorist, Sudan. 17). 2000 February. Riots in Kaduna over the introduction of Sharia. Over 400 are killed. Mostly Christians 18). 2001 September 7. Christian‐Muslim conflicts in Jos. Over 500 are killed. 19). 2001 October 12‐14 In Kano, there were anti‐American riots, because of USA intervention in Afghanistan.At least 350 are killed Mostly Christians.(You can imagine the mentality, Northern Christians arenow citizens of America). 20). 2006 February: Sectarian violence sparked by cartoons of Islam’s mostrevered figure spreadto 11 Nigerian cities resulting in the burning of 28 churches and pushing the total death toll to more than 650.
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by yazach: 1:48pm On Sep 24, 2014
malvisguy212: God promise to gives us his grace start from genesis when he substitute isaac for a lamb.


Luke12:49-53 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three
against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and
daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and
daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

verse 49 mean> the gospel of christ is like a two ege sword ,fire and a stumbling blok for people like you, who's heart has been harden


verse 50 mean> "but" there is hope for you, through the baptism,buried your sin and alive in christ.

verse 51-53 mean>"prophecy"because of jesus family will hate each other, father against children and children against father. Today we see this happen when a boy convert to christian to in a muslim family to follow christ , the father will condemed him to death.

Can you do justice in answering my qustion?

Don't tell me those jargon are from Jesus because I only see your low self statement in those statements

This was the question you were suppose to answered not those jargon

1- In the old time why was it that God did not give them the so call grace you claim to have been given now?

2- In your judgment will you say God was so cruel by asking those people to fight?
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by malvisguy212: 2:02pm On Sep 24, 2014
Abdulsalam20:
WHO ARE BOKO HARAM?!!
(1) Mr. John Alaku Akpavan, the
man arrested attempt to bomb
Radio House Abuja were christian.
(2) Lydia Joseph (the failed
bomber of St. John Catholic
Cathedral) of Bauchi State who
attempted to bomb a church on
September 12,2011.; was
christian.
(3) Augustine Effiong akwa ibon
indigene carry april 29th 2012
attack in connection with BUK
bomb attack.” Was christian.
(4) Emmanuel King arrested in
attempt to bomb the Redeemed
Christian Church of God (RCCG) in
Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital,
while camouflaged in Islamic
attire on December 28, 2011.
(5) Igbo traders that gunned
down a dozen fellow Igbo
businessmen of the same non-
Islamic faith inside the Christ
Apostolic Church, in Adamawa
State on Friday, January 6, 2012.
(6) Samson Mangai who was
arrested in Plateau state
attempting to bomb a church was
christian fellower.
(7) Madam Ruth, who attempted
to bomb the ECWA church,
Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State
on 12 Mar 2012. She Was cristian
fellower.
(cool Case of the arrest of about
eight Christians in Bauchi in an
attempt to blast the COCIN church
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(9) Case of the Christian bomber
lynched while escaping after
blasting the COCIN Church of Jos
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(10) Mr Alex Danladi involved in
COCIN HQ bombing was lynched
by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military
uniform.
(11) jonathan Gyanet, police
officer was arrested attempt to
bomb ERCC church in
Akwanga nasarawa state on Apri
20 2014. Was christian.
(12) The pastor's case in Osun state still fresh in our mind# fact!
CAN WE STILL CALL IT MUSLIMS'
AGENDA
THANK GOD THE PLANE CAN PRESIDENT WANT TO USE TO PURCHASE AMMUNITION ROM UN AUTHORISED AGENT IN SOUTH AFRICA WAS DISCOVERED AND NOW SINCE NO MORE AMMUNITION FOR THEM THEY ARE NOW SURRENDERING VOLUNTARILY.....IF U CAN READ MY EARLIAER POST U WILL DISCOVER THAT ISLAM BY NO WAY SUPPORT TERRORISM
how dos it sound, a christian wanted to bomb a church?which religeous grop dos he belong to?even the muslims soldier friends i have here knows that boko haram are muslims who misinterpret quran,though some believe it is a political problem.
Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by Nobody: 2:26pm On Sep 24, 2014
malvisguy212: please, can you name the terror group and the name of there leader?

There are a number of them actually. One of them is The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA). One of its leaders is Joseph Kony.

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