Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by kraftykc(m): 9:47am On Oct 04, 2015 |
oyadanoz:
u stand defend pop that is making noise. tell me howmany country does he visit in a week. how do u expect someone to minister in diferent country there need for it. as for pop he is only trying to gain porpularity by critisising men of miracle. Lol who had the Pope criticized?? I see you, worried that true Christianity will erode your hedonistic dogma. 3 Likes |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Yorobastard(m): 9:48am On Oct 04, 2015 |
Hmmm...Pope my foot...TB Joshua is A Million times better than him |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by kraftykc(m): 9:48am On Oct 04, 2015 |
paris10: The Pope's US visit was a triumph in upholding Christ teachings. If anything, one thing it does teaches us is that you don't need a private jet, nor a limousine nor even the most expensive carrier to ride in to do God's work.
It teaches us humility in the face of plenty, humbleness in the face of pride, and godliness to silence the greedy and the new generation pastors we have been condoning.
Creflor Dollar needed a $65,000 jet to do God's work ( his congregation are currently donating the money ). Adeboye, Oyedepo et al also need this amount of money to do God's work. Pope rode in a $20k mini series car. He specifically demanded this because " as a man of God you cannot live confortably and ride the most expensive cars whilst the children of God are suffering".
Over to the gullible Nigerian pastors defenders.
$65,000,000. CORRECTED. |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Nobody: 9:50am On Oct 04, 2015 |
another foolish prophet. doublewisdom:
Smh for you. Please grab a dictionary, check the for the meaning of sarcasm and stop embarrassing yourself. |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Nnemaranma(f): 9:50am On Oct 04, 2015 |
Bugatie:
It's well dear, weep no more .............................. ............................. Lol............... Itz well |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by kraftykc(m): 9:51am On Oct 04, 2015 |
nnamdiosu:
abi? me that use to enter okada to church or trek sometimes wen I'm rich what will they now say? let multiply 20 thousand dollars into naira first Bros... Even tokunbo 2008 Accord cost pass 20k dollars oh. No dull yourself. |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Draye: 9:51am On Oct 04, 2015 |
birdman:
I beg to disagree. The pope can request that plane anytime he wants. It is reserved for him. In essence, the state itself has bought a jet for the pope.
Now compare that with a pastor preaching a sermon in one city on saturday night, and another sermon in another time zone the next morning. Obviously driving is not feasible. Neither can you carry all your staff for 4-5 hour wait at the airport every weekend, assuming you can even find a flight when you want. Have you ever flown a 12 hour flight before? What evangelist is going to try a world missions trip lasting a 3 months flying every two to three days. Even Reinhard Bonnke, on moving to the US, needed a private jet. God so kind, he found a preacher that gave it to him for free!
Are there carnal christians and pastors that lust after jets because it is a status symbol? Yeah. But there are also carnal christians, like you, who think all there is to a plane is the status symbol. The plane is a tool. Its very effective for Ceos, vps , presidents because they can get from point a to point b quickly. . And it is a very effective tool for moving significant ministry resources from point a to point b at a moments notice " no point made here, can't these pastors manage their time we'll, instead of attending to evangelism work at every 3 to 4hrs in every part of the world which necessitated a private jet at the expense of their poor congregation"
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Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Nnemaranma(f): 9:52am On Oct 04, 2015 |
Yorobastard: Hmmm...Pope my foot...TB Joshua is A Million times better than him Now you go again |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by PAINGAIN: 9:52am On Oct 04, 2015 |
Abujalandlord: You guys should wake up to realities of our times pleeeasssess..these days appearance. Matters. It send the right massages, it convinces followers and above all its shows that God is with you....we often forget that the vertical blossomed hundreds of years and remains one of the richest..they have make their mark ways b4 our material time, just imagine if it were to start now without its present fortune , I bet even Italians won't know a man call Pope let alone the Nigerians ....so, money is needed to run even the gods works these days....and. If u don't believe so ure still dreaming what da?!! 4 Likes |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Draye: 9:52am On Oct 04, 2015 |
no point made here, can't these pastors manage their time we'll, instead of attending to evangelism work at every 3 to 4hrs in every part of the world which necessitated a private jet at the expense of their poor congregation" 1 Like |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Nobody: 9:52am On Oct 04, 2015 |
kraftykc:
$65,000,000. CORRECTED. Now imagine what the money could do for the poor and hungry and for children deprived of education. The human race suffers from madness. We are a mentally dysfunctional species. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by enzony(m): 9:53am On Oct 04, 2015 |
TrajansKong: I SAY AGAIN!!
This is not the African Way. The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.
The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?
This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters! Interesting sarcasm 3 Likes |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Draye: 9:54am On Oct 04, 2015 |
no point made here, can't these pastors manage their time we'll, instead of attending to evangelism work at every 3 to 4hrs in every part of the world which necessitated a private jet at the expense of their poor congregation"[color=#990000][/color] |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by U2ice(m): 9:57am On Oct 04, 2015 |
birdman:
I beg to disagree. The pope can request that plane anytime he wants. It is reserved for him. In essence, the state itself has bought a jet for the pope.
Now compare that with a pastor preaching a sermon in one city on saturday night, and another sermon in another time zone the next morning. Obviously driving is not feasible. Neither can you carry all your staff for 4-5 hour wait at the airport every weekend, assuming you can even find a flight when you want. Have you ever flown a 12 hour flight before? What evangelist is going to try a world missions trip lasting a 3 months flying every two to three days. Even Reinhard Bonnke, on moving to the US, needed a private jet. God so kind, he found a preacher that gave it to him for free!
Are there carnal christians and pastors that lust after jets because it is a status symbol? Yeah. But there are also carnal christians, like you, who think all there is to a plane is the status symbol. The plane is a tool. Its very effective for Ceos, vps , presidents because they can get from point a to point b quickly. . And it is a very effective tool for moving significant ministry resources from point a to point b at a moments notice
Rubbish! Wat do u say of pastors dt have more tan 1 aircraft e.g. Una papa Oyedepo He owns four....FOUR!!! 4 Likes |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by STILESGANG: 9:57am On Oct 04, 2015 |
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Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by sirkezman: 9:58am On Oct 04, 2015 |
so any one who has a contrary opinion to yours is gullible? says a lot about you! talking ill about pastors wont do you any good. is your life perfect with God? do you lie, fornicate or do any wrong doing? if yes, then i have a bible verse for you.. Oh Ye hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye Afterall everyone will give an account of himself with God.. who is the judge! paris10: The Pope's US visit was a triumph in upholding Christ teachings. If anything, one thing it does teaches us is that you don't need a private jet, nor a limousine nor even the most expensive carrier to ride in to do God's work.
It teaches us humility in the face of plenty, humbleness in the face of pride, and godliness to silence the greedy and the new generation pastors we have been condoning.
Creflor Dollar needed a $65,000 jet to do God's work ( his congregation are currently donating the money ). Adeboye, Oyedepo et al also need this amount of money to do God's work. Pope rode in a $20k mini series car. He specifically demanded this because " as a man of God you cannot live confortably and ride the most expensive cars whilst the children of God are suffering".
Over to the gullible Nigerian pastors defenders.
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Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by kraftykc(m): 9:58am On Oct 04, 2015 |
Mindfulness:
Now imagine what the money could do for the poor and hungry and for children deprived of education. The human race suffers from madness. We are a mentally dysfunctional species. Please. For the love of God, let's not even imagine it. I don't want to cry today. |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by kenny1313(m): 10:00am On Oct 04, 2015 |
TrajansKong: I SAY AGAIN!!
This is not the African Way. The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.
The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?
This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters! even the so call pastors you mention can't say this to the Pope. |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by huptin(m): 10:01am On Oct 04, 2015 |
btoks: A commercial plane is chartered when the pope needs to travel and the cost is usually subsidised by the travelling journalists. This is a lot cheaper than owning a private jet. No state has bought a jet for the pope. Kudos, you are very knowledgeable. 2 Likes |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by kraftykc(m): 10:01am On Oct 04, 2015 |
U2ice:
Rubbish! Wat do u say of pastors dt have more tan 1 aircraft e.g. Una papa Oyedepo
He owns four....FOUR!!! Actually he now owns a luxury airline business, which boasted 5 Jets at its peak. |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Nobody: 10:02am On Oct 04, 2015 |
kraftykc:
Please.
For the love of God, let's not even imagine it. I don't want to cry today. Sorry, I didn't mean to make you cry, almost. Thank God for people like you, who are compassionate. We have a reason to smile now. Have a blessed Sunday. 1 Like |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by miketayo(m): 10:03am On Oct 04, 2015 |
TrajansKong: I SAY AGAIN!!
This is not the African Way. The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.
The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?
This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters! Are u for real or is it just a joke.. Jesus was humble from birth till death, despite being the son of God.. Pastors r meant to be high servants' of God nd not kings, and if they can't humble themselves they are not worthy to be called Christians |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by mcmeffy(m): 10:03am On Oct 04, 2015 |
eddy1977: The Pope rode in a $20K mini car as a proof of humility? Wow! I guess He would have been even more humble if He rode a Donkey.
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Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by justurch(m): 10:05am On Oct 04, 2015 |
paris10: The Pope's US visit was a triumph in upholding Christ teachings. If anything, one thing it does teaches us is that you don't need a private jet, nor a limousine nor even the most expensive carrier to ride in to do God's work.
It teaches us humility in the face of plenty, humbleness in the face of pride, and godliness to silence the greedy and the new generation pastors we have been condoning.
Creflor Dollar needed a $65,000 jet to do God's work ( his congregation are currently donating the money ). Adeboye, Oyedepo et al also need this amount of money to do God's work. Pope rode in a $20k mini series car. He specifically demanded this because " as a man of God you cannot live confortably and ride the most expensive cars whilst the children of God are suffering".
Over to the gullible Nigerian pastors defenders.
IGNORANCE SPEAKING |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by fergiiosugo(m): 10:06am On Oct 04, 2015 |
TrajansKong: I SAY AGAIN!!
This is not the African Way. The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.
The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?
This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters! see definition of a GOAT! It's matches d definition of you. |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by U2ice(m): 10:07am On Oct 04, 2015 |
kraftykc:
Actually he now owns a luxury airline business, which boasted 5 Jets at its peak. Oh...itssok 1 Like |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by uboma(m): 10:08am On Oct 04, 2015 |
eddy1977: The Pope rode in a $20K mini car as a proof of humility? Wow! I guess He would have been even more humble if He rode a Donkey.
You read my mind bro. Excellent post. |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Touchey: 10:10am On Oct 04, 2015 |
[s] TrajansKong: I SAY AGAIN!!
This is not the African Way. The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.
The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?
This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters! [/s] Rubbish |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Tolupage(m): 10:11am On Oct 04, 2015 |
The fact be told, most Nigerian pastors have no need for the wealth they accumulate, they rather see it as a show of wealth and class hiding under religion and that God is not a poor God.
How can a pastor feel comfortable teaching humily, love n help n needy when he/she amases "wealth of nation" and yet those under him can hardly feed. May God help us 2 Likes |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by miketayo(m): 10:12am On Oct 04, 2015 |
chukkystar: D day I gave up on some Nigerian Pastors was when one said his school is not for the poor.. But Na poor people money Em use build am Who said that |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by phil0(m): 10:14am On Oct 04, 2015 |
birdman:
You are very correct. I think the intrinsic problem is that many people, including christians, do not really understand what wealth is, and the role money plays in it. They see a footballer taking selfies on a "private" jet and think the the dude has made it. His boss, the club owner, sees the same selfie while on his yatch and laughs becasue he knows what true wealth is, and what you have to do to get it and keep it. Economist |
Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by Nobody: 10:16am On Oct 04, 2015 |
eddy1977: The Pope rode in a $20K mini car as a proof of humility? Wow! I guess He would have been even more humble if He rode a Donkey.
gbam |