Those responsible for killing civilians in Iran should be arrested, tried and convicted for their crimes.

RichyBlacK:

Iran is a democracy, an imperfect democracy like the imperfect democracy in the US where innocent people are jailed without trial for decades and poor people are allowed to die just because they do not have health insurance.

There is no perfect democracy. Iran and America are imperfect democracies!

RichyBlacK:

Those responsible for killing civilians in Iran should be arrested, tried and convicted for their crimes.

In 50 Iranian cities the number of votes cast in this month presidential election exceeded the number of eligible voters, the state's election watchdog admitted today.

The surprising admission by the Guardian Counci[/b]l was, however, designed to undermine the claims of the defeated candidates that the vote was rigged.

How the heck can one have more votes than voters? I have a feeling [b]RichyBlack

Her name was Neda Salehi Agha Soltan and she was a philosophy student. But the manner of her death has turned her into an instant, global symbol of the Iranian regime’s brutality.

This innocent woman aged 26 was shot in the chest during running battles between opposition protesters and Iranian security forces in Tehran on Saturday. Since then, a grainy, 40-second video showing her final moments, blood streaming from her nose and mouth as a man implores her not to die, has ricocheted around the world on YouTube, blogs and social networking sites.

Miss Soltan, whose first name means “voice”, has become a martyr for freedom, Iran’s equivalent of the student who defied China’s tanks in Tiananmen Square. Pictures of the “Angel of Iran” are being held aloft at demonstrations outside Iranian embassies around the world. Tribute sites have been set up on Facebook, and Twitter has been inundated with heart-rending messages.

The Iranian authorities have ordered the family of a student shot dead in Tehran to take down mourning posters as they struggle to stop her becoming the rallying point for protests against the presidential election.

Neda Salehi Agha Soltan, 26, was killed as she watched a pro-democracy protest, and mobile phone footage of her last moments have become a worldwide symbol of Iran's turmoil.

The authorities had already banned a public funeral or wake and have prevented gatherings in her name while the state-controlled media has not mentioned Miss Soltan's death.

Today it was reported that they had also told her family to take down the black mourning banners outside their home in the Tehran suburbs to prevent it becoming a place of pilgrimage. They were also told they could not hold a memorial service at a mosque.

ElRazur:

The silence in here regarding these stories speak volumes.

honeric01:

I don't understand somethings here, based on the facts on ground before and during the election, who did you people tip to win this election How many people knew the oppositions that well? How many times did all these western medias aired the campaigns of all the opposition candidates before and during the election? Why is it now that people are no crying BLUE MURDER?

Lastly, why is it only in tehran that they have protests? What about the rest 49 provinces? Are they all in support of the result or the candidate that won?

honeric01:

I don't understand somethings here, based on the facts on ground before and during the election, who did you people tip to win this election How many people knew the oppositions that well? How many times did all these western medias aired the campaigns of all the opposition candidates before and during the election? Why is it now that people are no crying BLUE MURDER?

Lastly, why is it only in tehran that they have protests? What about the rest 49 provinces? Are they all in support of the result or the candidate that won?

Tayo-D:

Why are you so surprised? Many on this forum only feign anger when it involves either Isreal or the USA. Who kills who does not matter if it does not implicate a Jew or an American! Sad innit?!

Tayo-D:

Good observation. I also do not understand something here.  Perhaps you can help explain why the number of registered votes in more than 50 cities in Iran exceed the number of eligible registered voters. Do you suppose that is evidence of election fraud?

More than 100 MPs appear to have snubbed an invitation to celebrate Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's election win, local press reports say.

All 290 MPs were invited to the victory party on Wednesday night but 105 did not turn up, the reports say.

ElRazur:

More internal divide and power struggle?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8118139.stm

JustGood:

So, 105 MPs (perhaps oppostion MPs) did not attend. Does that necessarily point to election malpractices? They are 105 out of 290. I'm trying to figure out what proportion that is . . .

ElRazur:


Hence why the observational statement was a question. Nice try you.

ElRazur:

More internal divide and power struggle?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8118139.stm

More than 100 MPs appear to have snubbed an invitation to celebrate Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's election win, local press reports say.

All 290 MPs were invited to the victory party on Wednesday night but 105 did not turn up, the reports say.

More than 180 Iranian MPs appear to have snubbed an invitation to celebrate President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's election win, local press reports say.

All 290 MPs were invited to the victory party on Wednesday night, but only 105 turned up, the reports say.

A BBC correspondent says the move is a sign of the deep split at the top of Iran after disputed presidential polls.

mikeansy:

What Ahmadinejad is yet to explain to Iranians and the World is why a man with 63% majority is so afraid of election re-run.

Rather than have a re-run that is openly monitored, this man has chosen to use secret militiamen to maim and kill his people to accept the fraud called election.

mikeansy:

@Afam

Of the 290 MPs only 105 attended. Thats roughly 1/3 attending and 2/3 staying away. Also conspicously absent is the fiery hardline speaker Ali Larijani.
Besides I don't also think its accurate to suggest that a particular proportion of support from the political class means the same amount of support from the wider public.

More internal divide and power struggle?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8118139.stm

More than 100 MPs appear to have snubbed an invitation to celebrate Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's election win, local press reports say.

All 290 MPs were invited to the victory party on Wednesday night but 105 did not turn up, the reports say.

An earlier BBC report wrongly said that 105 MPs did not turn up. It should have said that only 105 attended.

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Afam want argue with the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8118139.stm

If Afam is honest, having based his claim of Ahmadinejad's supposed strong popular support on this story, he will have to admit that the facts make a mockery of him.

The Iranian authorities have ordered the family of a student shot dead in Tehran to take down mourning posters as they struggle to stop her becoming the rallying point for protests against the presidential election.

Neda Salehi Agha Soltan, 26, was killed as she watched a pro-democracy protest, and mobile phone footage of her last moments have become a worldwide symbol of Iran's turmoil.

The authorities had already banned a public funeral or wake and have prevented gatherings in her name while the state-controlled media has not mentioned Miss Soltan's death.

Today it was reported that they had also told her family to take down the black mourning banners outside their home in the Tehran suburbs to prevent it becoming a place of pilgrimage. They were also told they could not hold a memorial service at a mosque.

Afam:

Just as Florida suddenly went to Bush after the initial forecast and results gave the state to Al Gore?

So BBC does not know the difference between 105 did not show up and 105 showed up.

A hardline cleric close to the Iranian regime demanded the execution of leading demonstrators yesterday as the opposition ended the week in disarray.

In a televised sermon at Friday prayers in Tehran, Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami called on the judiciary to “punish leading rioters firmly and without showing any mercy to teach everyone a lesson”. He said that those leaders were backed by the United States and Israel. They should be treated as mohareb — people who wage war against God — and deserved execution.

In a clear warning to all other dissenters, he declared: “Anybody who fights against the Islamic system or the leader of Islamic society, fight him until complete destruction.”

The Ayatollah claimed that Neda Soltan, the woman shot during a demonstration last Saturday, had been killed by fellow protesters because “government forces do not shoot at a lady standing in a side street”.

A leading Iranian religious leader has called for the execution of "rioters" who have led a series of anti-government protests following the country's disputed June 12 presidential election.

Ahmad Khatami, a member of Iran's Assembly of Experts, told worshippers during a sermon at Friday prayers that Iran's judiciary should charge such rioters as "mohareb", or one who wages war against God.