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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Nobody: 3:32pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
adsonstone: The first Ogiso was Obagodo. The last Ogiso was Owodo. Oronmiyan left a pregnant queen behind and never set his eyes on Eweka till death. Who crowned him Oba Eweka? Definitely not a Yoruba person. The Edos did. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by christopher123(m): 7:56am On Mar 01, 2016 |
mrDennis: This is crazy No This is madness No This is stupid , delusional and madness at the same time Is it the Benin igbo conquered during ancient and modern wars |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by bokohalal(m): 12:16pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
christopher123:It is delusional, I agree. The ancient and modern conquests, I will let slide. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Nobody: 1:56pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
dreamworld:Whar is there to grab in Benin? |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Nobody: 2:00pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
samuel051:witchcraft dey affect your English sef |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Nobody: 2:29pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
Ricmayak1:Say na Benin wan fight, how many den be? |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Nobody: 3:48pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
YoruBadGoon: Ogedengbe the Ijesha warrior, almost took the war to ya land and you had to placate him with a gift An elderly man from Delta state told me this, but i did not believe it. It is now confirmed. Ogedengbe, the Ijesha warlord. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Nobody: 4:42pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
YoruBadGoon:na wao, where did u dig out this pic? Benins, confirm if this is the picture of your Oba. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by samuel051: 5:11pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
walexy30:I know say common sense no common, abeg try buy some from olx.. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Nobody: 6:24pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
samuel051:correct your grammar. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by samuel051: 8:05pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
walexy30:guy try upgrade ur brain to jelly bean or lollypop becos e be like say d brain still dey ginger bread. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 10:55pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
sotall: ogie means king in Bini. .like ovie means king in Urhobo Oba has never meant king in any edoid language Oba is simply a title in bini short for Omo n'oba n'edo you bini people are shamelessly feeling inferior to Yoruba |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 11:03pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
opal4real: Sir pls tell us why Oba doesn't rule Without the Ogiamien Giving him his right to rule during coronation? Infact why not tell us why the title of Ogiamien exist? and why the death of Oba erediuwa hasn't been known and his son made King? got anything to do with the vacancy of the Ogiamien position? tell us why Oba Ewedo had to fight Ogiamien? tell us why Ogiamien didn't allow Oranmiyan to enter the main city of Igodomigodo(as bini was known then) I think with ur answers we can safely conclude that the Oba is clearly foreign @@ bokohalal? |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by christopher123(m): 6:37am On Mar 02, 2016 |
This Benin Yoruba thing is becoming embarrassing and shameful. In this fast paced world some people are still talking oba this and who has oduduwa ...people are busy inventing technology and building fast cars youvarw here saying who is the first oba Why don't they say who first placed man on the Mars Who first discovered the shortest way to universe Shame on you all |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by samuel051: 9:34am On Mar 02, 2016 |
macof:mr inferior,talk what you know. oba means king and not any short form of anything. Omo n'oba n'edo is among one of the praises showered on the oba meaning "true son of the oba of edo" since only a true son can ascend d throne. it doesn't matter who is superior to who because it doesn't stop d atm machine from telling both a yoruba or edo man to wait while his transaction is processing.... |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by sotall(m): 4:11pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 6:20pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
sotall: see bini fellow. . instead of addressing the issue of traditions and history he's going off topic to slander and insult Yorubas inferiority complex. Yorubas have no reason to feel inferior to anybody. ..certainly nt a people who we gave our son to rule over 1 Like |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Born2Breed(f): 12:16pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
walexy30: The PICS was after Oba Ovoramen No'gbaisi was betrayed and arrested. The Oba of Benin do not wear Yoruba dress. The dress he was arrested in was the same one Oba Akenzua wore when d Queen of England came visiting. The thread has too many kids with little or no knowledge of history hence the jaundiced narratives flying around here. The Benin was the last empire after its defeat before Nigeria was created. No other ethnic group were able to stand d British in battle for that long. The same Yorubas were in d British army that fought Benin and Ologboshere in anger cursed dem for d betrayal. I advice the Yorubas to first deal with d hausa/fulani in ketu/orile who are repeating what their forebearers did severally centuries ago. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Born2Breed(f): 12:20pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
macof: The Edos has no reason to be inferior coz the father will never be the son. A tribe(Edo) whose words are their wand can never be compared to a tribe of judas. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by xerxes2001: 5:48am On Mar 06, 2016 |
True Ogiamien history by an Ogiamien the ruling house in Benin are yoruba the Ogiamien family are different and not under them. Read this I am full blooded benin history dont lie Evian was the younger brother of Owodo. and mark it the only brother of Owodo, This brings us to the Ogiso Oliha quarrel. Qgiso Evian made his son heir Apparent and Oliha broke ranks in the King making process because Evian had prospered and his wealth extended beyond Benin. He spread rumour that the childless Owodo had a child which Evian disputed however he Evian asked for proof. (It should be noted that Evian was crowned Ogiso after Oliha and some chiefs misled him and chased him out of benin and Owodo died in exile. After this different calamities befell benin some include incest, sicknesses such as plagues etc The same Oliha begged Evian to ascend the throne and he killed the monster giant who was the captain of the Udo army that was carrying off young ladies in the market) The same Oliha sets out to Uhe (Ile Ife) and brings Omonayan (Oromiyan) however he fails to speak Benin language instead Evian demanded for Oduduwa (Izoduwa) and vowed that if he could speak the language he would vacate the throne. Evian chases out Oranmiyan from his presence but establishes him in Uselu. Ogiamien ancestral story had it that Oliha dare not bring Oduduwa to benin because he was full blooded yoruba and could not speak the language. This means that the benin people will revolt against him on finding out. Evian was suceeded by Ogiso Irebor Ogiamien. Other issues that were disputed and are still today are 1. Inability to prove that the Eweka Dynasty is a prince in Ogiso Family (Ogiamien is the only surviving prince in Ogiso Family House) 2. The Edion of Benin considered the dispute a purely family matter and begged that Ogiamien should sell the land of Benin to the Oba for there to be peace which he did and gave Eweka only Ogbe 3. That till date it is only Ogiamien that has his own set of chiefs he has even his own Oliha 4. That Ogiamien is not a palace chief nor is any of his chiefs. 5. Ogiamien Palace is the Oldest standing structure in the whole of Edo state the source of all Edo Authority 6. The door we have for the Oba on the Ogiamien Palace wall requires that he bends to enter the palace.. Dear Richard you dont need to believe it, that is the story of Ogiamien Family. Note Ogiamien family is not in contention with anybody or the yoruba leadership that currently has identity crisis and is ruling Benin Today. This has been the guided secret if pushed I will spill more for you children of Benin to know Thanks May The Ogiamien Blood line of Royalty, Peace and Sacrifice dwell among man for long Amen |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Markymac5: 7:37am On Mar 20, 2016 |
Enough is enough...The federal government should do something about this. The yoruba people are either covering up their history or they don't know about it. The re very very inconsistent. They don't even know how the name Yoruba came and even if some of them managed to know the word is from the hausa/fulani, they still don't know the meaning. The yoruba are very tricky. The sultan of sokoto is the only monarchy to be compared to the oba of Benin. It's high time we clear the air. The FG should summon all these yoruba elders and chiefs who call themselves Obas to speak about their origin. We need to know if they are Nigerians or just occupying space here. We re not satisfied by their oduduwa story instead the Benin version sounds so real with consistency, dates and all that, Making it obvious that their own son who the yorubas took as their progenitor brought some of the Benin culture to yoruba land. If the Berebe (as called by the hausas) cannot tell us where Oduduwa came from, that means they re hiding something for sure or they don't know where he came from. Of course oduduwa has parents and he didn't appear when there is nobody in the yoruba land. So let's add all these things up and digest it. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Born2Breed(f): 8:58pm On May 19, 2016 |
Markymac5: FACTS...
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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Megasaucy(f): 6:02am On May 21, 2016 |
Jeez, can we all get to grip with the fact that no ethnic community was at any point in their history homogenous? And that no kingdom has ever survived from antiquity to the present day without acculturation through commerce, religion, conquests, immigration and emigration with their neighbors and outsiders? Ref: Egypt and Sudan; Arabia and the Maghreb; the English and the French ; the English and the Dutch; the the Turks and Armenians; the Cossacks and the Slavs etc. Whether Ife influenced the Benin Kingdom or vice versa is highly irrelevant, the relevant point is how these feuding leaders have used relationship/contact to add value to the peoples of their kingdoms and by extension, the progress of the black race. Can these leaders consult their oracles and juju men and advise the present political leadership in the country, nay Africa on the course we must chart as black people to be at par with other races? China experienced economic miracle despite its more than 200 ethnic groupings! They are marching towards world economic domination at the moment. Should we continue to bicker on the supremacy or otherwise of inconsequential and anachronistic ethnic leaderships thatvhave failed their subjects many times over? Black men, can we rechannel our energies to discourses on the way out of our present and vicious cycle of poverty, ignorance, hunger,disease, famine and a collapsing economy? Ooni and Omo n'oba n'edo sef, who dem epp? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Haoqi24: 12:59am On Dec 15, 2016 |
Christane: You can't even construct good English and you making claims to be grounded in history... everybody's comment is subjective to his or her origin but one thing clear is both Yoruba and Benin are closely related |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Christane: 7:09am On Dec 15, 2016 |
mayb i wil pay u to teach me how to spk english ..can u tel me any error i my post? idiot |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 3:53pm On Dec 15, 2016 |
Haoqi24: of course they are related, a banished Benin prince rule Ife, even Ooni of Ife said it himself. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Haoqi24: 7:03pm On Dec 15, 2016 |
ritababe: Will you shut up there!!! Where n when did you hear him say that? |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 7:51pm On Dec 15, 2016 |
Haoqi24:do you want proof? |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Haoqi24: 1:54am On Dec 16, 2016 |
ritababe: Do you also want proof that the previous Obas of Benin have been all buried in ile ife before the Benin people stopped the traditional practice of returning the Oba to his ancestral land? |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 7:00am On Dec 16, 2016 |
Haoqi24:.that does not prove anything my Friend the evidence is what they say by themselves, Oba of Benin said it including ur Oni |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by MetaPhysical: 7:51am On Dec 16, 2016 |
xerxes2001: Xerxes, During coronation of current King what role in the long rituals did Ogiamien play? Also, in a council seating, between Oba and Ogiamien whose staff is positioned as flagbearer at the sitting? |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Haoqi24: 8:44pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
ritababe: Oya show your proof |
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