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Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Sauron1: 2:20pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
presido1: That's the only 'unlucky' schiznit on the day. I guess Fergie reserved Ando's energy for the coming games cos Cesc was not available. Anderson woulda played better than Giggs. Arsenal cannot beat a United team with Ando-Fletch-Carrick starting. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by eldee(m): 2:20pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
debosky:Are you going to try to act like this hasn't worked at Arsenal and elsewhere?? Denilson has accumulated 63 Arsenal appearances . . . are you telling me you've not seen how the experience has helped him?? Bendtner has over 150 club career caps, Djourou(87), Song (78), Walcott (106) all with Arsenal. . . we've seen how experience has helped shape these youngsters Now what concerned Arsenal fans have been saying is simple . . . why grow these players when we can just just bring in the experience?? Like we did with Arshavin?? Do we really need to go trophyless while the other teams get a 4-year headstart?? You call it magic, to me and the a mojority of the fans, it's a flipping no-brainer. At the end of the day Wenger still needs experienced hands on deck, but he's decided to spend five years getting 'em. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by ndumart: 2:24pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
Apparently, Ando is not on top of his game right now. SAF made the perfect line-up. The energy of Fletcher, the intelligence of carrick, and the bursting paces of Nani and Valencia. That combination is unbeatable. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by eldee(m): 2:27pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
@Sauron 4-3-3?? Who were your full backs?? Nani and JS Park?? Cus I'm quite sure they did more defending than Verminator |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by HNIC(m): 2:29pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
@Sauron All this is down to a dubious penalty awarded by Dean and a moment of madness from Diaby. I would be embarassed if I were Fergie at being played off the park at Old Toilet Not in the mood for any debate. we have lost 1-2 and have moved on But,Keep playing mediocre players like Nani,Valencia and co(and keep deluding yourself that they were fantastic) Like I said, Dean won't be officiating your matches every week and u wont have Diaby scoring own goals. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Sauron1: 2:30pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
eldee: It was 4-3-3. . . . . .United matched Arsenal's formation. Nani and Valencia on the flanks with Rooney as the centre forward. Giggs, Fletcher and Carrick in the midfield and the back four. Unlike Wenger, SAF knows he needs a good defence to win titles. ndumart: Ando woulda done a better job than Giggsy on the night(there's no question about that). In a counter-attack, Giggsy was passing the ball back to allow Arsenal regroup and defend in numbers. Giggsy didn't start playing until the penalty incident and against a quality side, we woulda paid for it. In a 3-man midfield, it's no brainer. . . . .Ando-Carrick-Fletcher are the ebst combo. I cannot count the number of times this triumvirate have raped Arsenal. . . . . HNIC: Dubious penalty? So you are saying Rooney dived and Almunia didn't touch him at all? How was this incident different to Arsenal's penalty in 2006 when KitKat upended Adebayor at OT? Must you blame others for your club's ineptitude?
Embarrassed after 3 points? Played off the park at OT? Have u seen the match stats? The only thing you racked more than United were the yellow cards. . . . .Eboue diving and Song making cynical tackles. United had more shots on target. . . . . .It was so glaring that United edged it in the 2nd half. . . . .Even Evra had a crisp shot on goal.
Don't move on. . . . . .stay there at OT and keep wondering what got into Diaby's head.
Nani and Valencia are better than anything Arsenal have to offer in the attack. Bendtner, Van Persie and Eduardo are piles of self-service. . . . .They are not good enough. Adebayor has copped 3 goals in 3 league games. . . . .Rooney has5 goals in 5 games(including the shield). . . .Drogba is firing. Your strikers have nada.
If Diaby doesn't score own goals, Silvestre or Clichy would. Gibbs will even slip again to gift your opponents another goal. The whole Arsenal team reeks of mediocrity. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by ndumart: 2:32pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
@HNIC Nani and Valencia would play week-in week-out if the were to be in Arsenal. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by HNIC(m): 2:37pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
ndumart:Should move this to the joke section Nani and valencia looked like Championship players Come to think of it, Mcgeady caused us more problems than those two mediocres The win was just paper over some cracks. Just that manure fans always delude themselves. More Burnley type defeats await that team! |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by HNIC(m): 2:40pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
ndumart:they won't play in our CC side, never mind league. You think football is about having curly hair like Wacko Jacko |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by presido1: 2:41pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
HNIC:Pls whatz dubious about the penalty? Did we watch the same game? |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Sauron1: 2:43pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
HNIC: Nani won't play in your CC side of course. . . . . .He is better than any winger in Arsenal. He so disgraced Arsenal some seasons ago, Wenger was crying he was show-boating. Nani has 2 league titles and 1 UCL title in 2 seasons. His record is better than Arsene Wenger who is yet to win anything in Europe as a manager. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by presido1: 2:45pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
HNIC:Now u are becoming too funny. If Nani is in your team Diaby(Own Goal Specialist) for don put in transfer request. Arsenal Tormentor.
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Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by ndumart: 2:47pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
@HNIC As far as pride is concerned, I would rather lose to a burnley than lose to Arsenal |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Sauron1: 2:50pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
presido1: Diaby, Rosicky, Walcott and Nasri woulda put in their transfer requests. Arsenal fans are deluded. . . . .They claimed they played the better football on Saturday but statistics proved em wrong again. If United were so shitty and they still managed to beat Arsenal with their shit then Wenger should be worried. In 2007/8, United copped 5 points out of the first 12 points. In 2008/9, United copped 5 points out of the first 12 points. In 2009/10, United copped 9 points out of the first 12 points. I am HAPPY. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by rasputinn(m): 2:53pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
Blimey,I never knew this thread was this alluring and attractive,the scummies actually intend to take it over |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by debosky(m): 2:54pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
funny, he made this mistake over 5 times last season, lol, anyways, I dont see him as the problem. Which of the goals came as a result of a 'strong willed' DM?
Wow so sacrificing 'experience' is what led to us scoring an own goal?
What relevance does this have to the game at hand? Still not one piece of evidence indicating how these reasons of yours have any bearing on the loss yesterday. Funny I didn't hear cries for 'experience' when we beat Everton 5-1. As always, doom messages come out once we lose a game, regardless of the reason.
Your comments are an overall assessment of Arsenal - i.e we need a 'strong willed' DM and 'experience'. But with due respect, those are not the issues that led to the problems of the previous match. If you can't see that then you are too ingrained in your viewpoint to perceive reality. Calling the goals scored by United mistakes is also somewhat funny cant we also say the Arshavin goal was a goalkeeping error?Arshavin's shot could not be stopped - Foster got a hand to it but it was too powerful to save. Go ask Pepe Reina from last season. The goals Utd scored are clearly mistakes, unless an own goal which was NEVER going in is not comparable to being beaten by an outstanding shot.
This is debatable - he was offside, but he could be interpreted to be 'not interfering with play'. That is what the offside rule says. Given that the defender cleared the ball and Gallas did not touch the ball nor block anyone in the build up to the goal, it could be regarded as a goal. The only 'saving grace' as it were was the fact that the flag was up from the beginning.
A few minutes ago we cannot beat Utd, Chelski and Liverpool. . . make up your mind dude. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Sauron1: 2:59pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
debosky: Are you a blind bat? William Gallas contesting the ball with United defenders is 'not interfering with play'? Assuming Gallas wasn't there at all. . . .Would Evra have headed the ball where Van Persie and Eduardo tucked the ball into the net or just allow it to bounce and play a back pass to his goal-keeper? Gallas was clearly OFFside and interfered with play. He jumped for the ball and the decision was 100% correct. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by HNIC(m): 3:00pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
presido1:So, u are saying Rooney didn't dive Typical scummie. Rooney is a cheat! 2nd time, he's diving against arsenal at OT to get a penalty ~Sauron~:Shrek is a cheat We were still discussing it here on Friday, not knowing he would do it 24 hours later He was on his way down before Almunia touched him Pundits believe he was clever and Eduardo was unclever. It's still diving! ~Sauron~: I am shocked this can be coming from u Which EPL side has scored more goals than the Arsenal side? Leave our strikers alone, they will score when it's time. I will rather have a team that has scored 11 goals in 3 EPL matches, than having one player scoring al the goals for my team! That manure team is crap. You can't go far with such mediocre players! |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by debosky(m): 3:01pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
@Debosky What I meant was to counter the ridiculous assertion by proudly that the CB's would be kaput by January as if they are not supposed to play 30+ games per season! I am not in doubt that we need one new CB, but that is only if Senderos leaves. Senderos, Djourou and *gulp* Silvestre can cover us - the key is keeping your first choice pair. We need subs but not necessarily much better than what we have at the moment. Recall Pascal Cygan played 18 games in the unbeaten season and I'd wager Senderos and Djourou are better than he was.
Let's see enough evidence before we start wailing. 10 games and the end of the transfer window, not crying unrealistically over a loss that could happen to anyone due to a couple of uncharacteristic mistakes. To the scumtwats - I'm going to enjoy some sunlight. . . I'll be back for y'all. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by presido1: 3:01pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
debosky:Don't shot yourself dude, Gallas was offside b4 the goal and the flag was up so what is debatable about the offside call. How can u regard it as a goal u better say itz an offside goal which cannot be regarded as a goal unless mistakenly allowed by the ref. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by debosky(m): 3:03pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
presido1: Offside but not interfering with play - the linesman could've decided to keep his flag down till if and when Gallas got involved in play. It seems you don't have a good grasp of the offside rule. I am saying it could've been called otherwise, but due to the way it was called, we cannot say there was some 'conspiracy' against us. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by presido1: 3:07pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
debosky:Your argument hold no water at all, the ball was intended for Gallas and not RVP as RVP was no where near the ball. Ok u want the linesman to wait till Gallas make contact with the ball b4 he flag? HNIC:As you claimed on Utaka and Gallas incident that every footie pundit has said that Utaka tripped himself and u believed on what they said. Pls can you quote any punta that said it was not a penalty, Diff stroke when it comes to United huh if not i don't know why u are still on it when everybody know itz a stonewall pen. Typical scummie.Your Favourite line whenever u are losing it. I knew this long ago. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by chamotex(m): 3:09pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
debosky: Dobosky you are letting me down. Wasn't Gallas involved in the move?? Or am I missing something? |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Sauron1: 3:14pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
presido1: Debosky is an idiot these days. . . . . . The ball was meant for Gallas. . . . .It was the knock back from Evra that brought RVP/Eduardo into the passage of play. Once Gallas was ahead of United's defence-line the moment the ball was kicked to him. . . . .He was OFFSIDE. Debosky cannot interpret the OFFside rule. . . . . .Pathetic. @ HNIC, Shouldn't you be ashamed that a team of mediocre players beat you? United are mediocre and yet they have stopped your team from winning any title for the past 5 years. By May 2010, it will be 6 YEARS since Arsenal won the league. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Nobody: 3:34pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
debosky, Arsenal vs Hull, FA Cup last season. Gallas' winning goal. Offside or not? |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Nobody: 3:37pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
Sauron, I have a question for you. If Arsenal,suposedly superior,cannot beat a supposedly shitty team as they claim United were,what does that make them. Shame on you gunners who go by the superiority argument. At least debosky hasn't brought his usual junk to our thread. Thank God for that! And while we're still on the dubious subject,anyone remembers a certain Robert pires dive vs Portsmouth @Highbury,on their way to their so-called 49-unbeaten? Dubious is a term I associate with Arsenal.Going way back |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by dayokanu(m): 3:42pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
Injuries and suspensions would come a[b][/b]nd only a naive manager would not prepare for such eventualities and with backups like Djourou and Silvestre pardon me but all i see is another trophyless season A40 Nailed it. You are my Gayyner of the month. Though you are still Gay, You are still the best of the Gay lots |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Sauron1: 3:43pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
Eastbay: They are a shit team. . . . . . .It's now 3 victories back to back(if you add the 2 legs of the UCL semis)
Only an idiot will compare the United team to a diabolical Arsenal who haven't won anything in 5 years.
Don't even go to 2003/4 season. . . . . .Eboue and Eduardo dived within a space of 3 days. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Nobody: 3:51pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
~Sauron~: I keep seeing this "after-the game" delusional analysis. We gifted you the game. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by dayokanu(m): 3:54pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
Ass-anal fans must always have something to complain about' Referee last saturday but I didnt see them complain when another ref gave Fletcher a non existent red card last season CL semi finals Its like GAYYners here are competing for who would give the most ridiculous excuse. Pathetic Bunch David, Arsenal willingly gave Scummies the game because Gayyners dont want the league. They are content with Emirate cup |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Nobody: 3:56pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
I thought debosky was an irritant,saying all his crap on United's thread. I came here only to read that I was wrong:he's a confirmed/certified looney.Everywhere he goes. Gallas wasn't involved in the build-up to the disallowed goal.How does he get allowed to even watch football? ~Sauron~: They want to make it sound like we're cheats.I did that just to show how underhanded they themselves are.And of course,Mr. Peeping-tom had nothing to say about it.but you're right-2 dives in 3 days. Now he's indirectly attacking Fletcher.If he's honest with himself,he'll admit that the Arshavin penalty might have been given if Eduardo didn't ballerina-twirl to the ground 3 days ago. As for HNIC,I'm not surprised he's calling the Rooney penalty dubious.He's seen so much diving from his team to think that every fall in the box is a dive. |
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. Yes We Can! by Sauron1: 3:57pm On Aug 31, 2009 |
davidylan: Gifted? I wouldn't mind such gifts at the Emirates later in the season. How can you gift your title rivals 3 points just like that? Considering the fact that you have not won the league in 5 years, i think Wenger should be sacked. |
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