mathew247:
I will never wish this case on my worst enemy. I remember vividly what etuketu did to my father.

after getting well at the hospital, the disease came back within days he left the hospital,

we went back to dat hospital and they said we can't be admitted again they then prescribe a more costly medicine to us,under 2 days, it came back

we diverted to yoruba medicine,it will cool but after some hours it will start again

then someone directed us to a pastor that said its ancestral curse...the pastor gave us igbo medicine with prayers,fasting and midnight prayers... I swear since we started that prayer owls started crying every night on our roof. My father didnt die and he was healed permanently.

if I tell you what ancestral curse did to my family u wont believe.

Someone here said ''they can make brilliant children not finish school'' there's truth in that and many more cases.

If u need a pastor that can free ur family from ancestral curses. Check the number on my profile to contact me so I can link you to him, he stays in onitsha,anambra state.

bebe2:



u lucky ur aunt survived. same thing happened to my brother in laws wife.

she had a lot of complication with her first child, had her premature, the husband who lived in germany sent down loads of money to make sure both mother and child survived, which they did.

then she got pregnant again , and decided to go to JESUS WOMEN CHURCH for spiritual care becos she didnt want the evil spirit to make her have caesarean again, her feet were swollen but she didnt go to hospital she was using anointing oil on it.

long story cut short, one morning she woke up, blacked out, she was rushed to different hospital no one cud help, until they got to st philomena, by then the child was already dead, she herself never recovered, she died few days later.

lesson learnt. person also need apply common sense in alot of situations.

Liveair:


Do not Insult Science by your arrogant displace of silly misinformation.

GossipHeart:

Things i don't believe in

*God

*Satan

*Heaven

*Bible

*Any Religion

*Voodoo

*Juju/Charms

*Evil spirits

*Ancestral curses

An example : If God exists or prayer works, Nigeria is the most spiritual and most God loving country in the world,
Why isn't Nigeria greater than the most sinful, most evil, most corrupt country in the world (USA)??

Jimmyo3:
Woe unto to those who don't believe in ancestral curses or spirituality for even the very SCIENCE which you embrace has agreed in accordance and proved beyond doubt that spirituality is real. And that activities in the spiritual realm affects our physical reality in one way or the order because whatever takes form and manifest as physical evidence have existed in the spiritual realm..... This is what SCIENCE says and not me.Woe unto to those who don't believe in ancestral curses or spirituality for even the very SCIENCE which you embrace has agreed in accordance and proved beyond doubt that spirituality is real. And that activities in the spiritual realm affects our physical reality in one way or the order because whatever takes form and manifest as physical evidence have existed in the spiritual realm..... This is what SCIENCE says and not me.

GossipHeart:

Things i don't believe in

*God

*Satan

*Heaven

*Bible

*Any Religion

*Voodoo

*Juju/Charms

*Evil spirits

*Ancestral curses

An example : If God exists or prayer works, Nigeria is the most spiritual and most God loving country in the world,
Why isn't Nigeria greater than the most sinful, most evil, most corrupt country in the world (USA)??

dumodust:


Every family has had their share of tragedies, people die in different ways, it's life and much sinister meaning shouldn't be attached to it. I have buried my mum and other family members. Other people have too, we are not immortals, people live to die. The 40s is a decade of hustle by men to fend for their kids and the travelling and stress is bound to take a toll on health and predispose to death.
I hope you are aware the average life expectancy of Nigerian males is about 50 years. The bad roads, faulty cars, bad hospitals and lifestyles are bound to tell too, its not exactly rocket science. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. In western countries like the UK, average life expectancy is about 80 yrs and men are even marrying new wives and undertaking hip replacements in such countries in preparation for a longer life because they are well taken care of.

ezechinwa2:


Listen, I don't doubt the existence of spirits. the problem is Africans are too overspiritual and always blame their failure on soneone or some spirits. no wonder these pastors are always buying private jets and fancy cars because of our gullibility .
A student keeps on failing mathematics and blames his innocent aunty in the village, rather than studying harder he spends time in churches and not reading at all. won't you call that stupidity?
The whites are ahead because theres a right balance between science and spiritual life. unlike Africa, we always love blaming something despite the fact that science started in Africa.
When I fail I man up and try to improve , but I still believe in Jesus just that I no need pastors to pray for me or sell salvation to me.

bebe2:



u lucky ur aunt survived. same thing happened to my brother in laws wife.

she had a lot of complication with her first child, had her premature, the husband who lived in germany sent down loads of money to make sure both mother and child survived, which they did.

then she got pregnant again , and decided to go to JESUS WOMEN CHURCH for spiritual care becos she didnt want the evil spirit to make her have caesarean again, her feet were swollen but she didnt go to hospital she was using anointing oil on it.

long story cut short, one morning she woke up, blacked out, she was rushed to different hospital no one cud help, until they got to st philomena, by then the child was already dead, she herself never recovered, she died few days later.

lesson learnt. person also need apply common sense in alot of situations.

Gift101:


So the situation whereby a family has brainliant children but none of them has ever graduated from the university is Genetic right ?

dumodust:


We are having a rational conversation here and suddenly you bring in your brand of negativity with your distasteful habits of 'woe unto you' to people you dont even know.
If you have claims that science has seen spirits, please bring verifiable evidence or links here. It is not by writing 'science' in capital letters and making claims, insulting everyones intelligence in a bid to ram it down our throats. We can't be hoodwinked, we werent educated for nothing.
Everybody is entitled to believe what they want. Learnt to tolerate other people's views as we tolerate yours

GossipHeart:

Things i don't believe in

*God

*Satan

*Heaven

*Bible

*Any Religion

*Voodoo

*Juju/Charms

*Evil spirits

*Ancestral curses

An example : If God exists or prayer works, Nigeria is the most spiritual and most God loving country in the world,
Why isn't Nigeria greater than the most sinful, most evil, most corrupt country in the world (USA)??

accountbalance:
Goodluck to you on re-orientation of these gullible people's mindset. This is actually where most of the problem we have in Nigeria stems from. Everyday I see people living their lives based on archaic superstitions and believes.

For instance, my educated aunt almost lost her life while giving birth in a church because she thought some evil spirit in the family were after her unborn child so she refused to go for antenatal. Of course, the poor foetus died due to unhealthy delivery.

I really love the way you are trying to open people's mind to critical thinking but I just don't know if it's possible to correct so many people's thought. People's mind have been really messed up in this part of the world, no thanks to our pastors and prophets.

bebe2:
u lucky ur aunt survived. same thing happened to my brother in laws wife.

she had a lot of complication with her first child, had her premature, the husband who lived in germany sent down loads of money to make sure both mother and child survived, which they did.

then she got pregnant again , and decided to go to JESUS WOMEN CHURCH for spiritual care because she didn't want the evil spirit to make her have caesarean again, her feet were swollen but she didnt go to hospital she was using anointing oil on it.

long story cut short, one morning she woke up, blacked out, she was rushed to different hospital no one cud help, until they got to st philomena, by then the child was already dead, she herself never recovered, she died few days later.

lesson learnt. person also need apply common sense in alot of situations.

Shafiiimran99:

What did Jesus save then?

StoneColdBiceps:


Some theories could be irrational BUT there is ancestral curse, witchcraft and other underworld vices only the Lord Jesus Christ can address.

hoodboy:


Let me share my something i personally experienced for your sake.

In my family lineage, no person gave birth to more than three boys, this dates back to my great grand fathers, My grand father had two brothers, and each of them gave birth to only 3 sons, and each of the three sons gave birth to only 3 sons as well (i was among the 3sons of my dad).

On quick glance, you might not think much of the situation, my dad had 4 children, 3 boys and a girl, quite perfect family size. But on a faithful day in church, a guest minister was praying against ancestral curses and asked anyone who felt he had such ties to come out for prayers, at first my dad didn't come out, but when he realised "the 3 son issue" he quickly jumped out, was about the last person to come out (his own account). He prayed for that curse to be broken, and later that year my mum got pregnant, 8 years after she had hung her boots.

The warfare that surrounded that pregnancy wasn't funny, things became very tight financially so hard that when my mum was due for delivery, we weren't even able to buy any of the required things. the first thing that came was a baby bath, which our family friend brought to the house. God is always one step ahead, my mom's brother came back to Nigeria just as my brother was conceived and everything my brother used during his first months, from diapers to powder to clothes, he brought with him from america.

Just as if he knew he came during trying times, the boy would never ever cried for food for one day, secondly he didn't ever eat up to one bowl of cereal or any of the baby foods, we tried everything but he just couldn't eat it, the only thing that would go in and stay in was 'Ogi baba' and that is what he was weaned on.

After the birth of my brother, extended families that had been suck with 3 boys started to give birth to more than 3 boys, four years after my brother we had our last brother.

Ancestral curses, agreement, bondage are real.

ezechinwa2:


Listen, I don't doubt the existence of spirits. the problem is Africans are too overspiritual and always blame their failure on soneone or some spirits. no wonder these pastors are always buying private jets and fancy cars because of our gullibility .
A student keeps on failing mathematics and blames his innocent aunty in the village, rather than studying harder he spends time in churches and not reading at all. won't you call that stupidity?
The whites are ahead because theres a right balance between science and spiritual life. unlike Africa, we always love blaming something despite the fact that science started in Africa.
When I fail I man up and try to improve , but I still believe in Jesus just that I no need pastors to pray for me or sell salvation to me.

Jimmyo3:
Noted!!!! it is true, as Africans we lay too much emphasis on spiritual beings causing our misfortune. the result which has left us languishing in backwardness, we really need to strike a balance between science and spirituality . As humans we quite literally have the power to overcome every form of negativity in our lives by our believe(faith).

akintom:

Church enterprise plc

2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

All claims of deliverance from whatever, is a sure fraudulent means of duping the gullible folks.

richidinho:


Funny you, in my church deliverance is free yet demons manifest and are casted out daily

hoodboy:
In my family lineage, no person gave birth to more than three boys, this dates back to my great grand fathers, My grand father had two brothers, and each of them gave birth to only 3 sons, and each of the three sons gave birth to only 3 sons as well (i was among the 3 sons of my dad).

On quick glance, you might not think much of the situation, my dad had 4 children, 3 boys and a girl, quite perfect family size.

But on a faithful day in church, a guest minister was praying against ancestral curses and asked anyone who felt he had such ties to come out for prayers, at first my dad didn't come out, but when he realised "the 3 son issue" he quickly jumped out, was about the last person to come out (his own account). He prayed for that curse to be broken, and later that year my mum got pregnant, 8 years after she had hung her boots.

The warfare that surrounded that pregnancy wasn't funny, things became very tight financially so hard that when my mum was due for delivery, we weren't even able to buy any of the required things.

Just as if he knew he came during trying times, the boy would never ever cried for food for one day, secondly he didn't ever eat up to one bowl of cereal or any of the baby foods, we tried everything but he just couldn't eat it, the only thing that would go in and stay in was 'Ogi baba' and that is what he was weaned on.

Ancestral curses, agreement, bondage are real.

Seun:
What's Etuketu in English?

What were your dad's symptoms? What was the doctor's diagnosis? What was the treatment that they gave your dad, and for how long?

What was the name of the more costly medication that they described? What was their reason for refusing to admit you again? Did your dad stat taking the more costly medication immediately. For how long? How long after he started did he start to feel better before he relapsed ?

What Yoruba medicine specifically? Did your dad's symptoms disappear whenever he took the medicine? Did you divert to it due to cost?

If your dad's problems were caused by an ancestral curse, why was the new igbo medicine needed? What was it made of? How long after you started praying did your dad's symptoms disappear again? What do you think the owls were trying to achieve by crying on your roof?

Please tell us!


Brilliant students not finishing school is not unheard of. It happens. The fact that it rarely happens doesn't mean it must be supernatural.

Earthkumy:
God bless you brother.

GossipHeart:

Things i don't believe in

*God

*Satan

*Heaven

*Bible

*Any Religion

*Voodoo

*Juju/Charms

*Evil spirits

*Ancestral curses

An example : If God exists or prayer works, Nigeria is the most spiritual and most God loving country in the world,
Why isn't Nigeria greater than the most sinful, most evil, most corrupt country in the world (USA)??

hoodboy:
In an entire lineage, none of the family could give birth to more than 3 boys, a situation that was based on a covenant my forebears made with their deities, there was no limit to the number of girl child, but none of the families had more than three sons.

Now the point is not about over populating the world with kids, but knowing that you are limited because of some agreement your ancestors had is not something that one should take lightly, the larger implications of that covenant i do not know, but i am sure glad that agreement has been broken.

You sit there on your high horse making insulting assumptions and who told you my brother wasn't eating, mind you he never for once went hungry, he just didn't like canned baby food, and like i said we tried all the various brands and the only one he would eat as a baby was ogi, how does that become him not having appetite for food that needed medical intervention? He was a very healthy baby, chubby and well looked after, and all that "warfare" ended when he was born.

I know some people here like to over rationalise issues and doubt the reality of the spiritual, but that to me is just intelligent ignorance.

Seun:

If a particular illness runs in your family, it is probably because the disease is genetic in nature. For example, there are families in which every woman develops breast cancer at a particular age. Scientists have found that certain genes are responsible for their tendency to have breast cancer. Angelina Jolie discovered that she has this gene and decided to go for a preventive double mastectomy in order to avoid it. She has also opted to adopt kids so she won't pass the genes to the next generation. Some families tend to have a lot of sicklers, and this is because of the sickle cell gene. The solution is for people from such families to marry people who don't have the gene at all. These are medical issues, and not spiritual. When you attribute medical issues to evil spirits, you prevent the victims from seeking the medical help that they need. How wicked!

If marital problems run in your family, it's probably because nobody in your family knows how a healthy marriage works. Almost everything you know about marriage comes from your parents, and you are likely to make the same mistakes that they did. The solution is to educate yourself on marriage from external sources like books, the Internet, etc and to make sure the partner you choose is very compatible with you and preferably comes from a healthy family. And to seek counseling from marriage counselors, not your pastor who may not know much. If both partners in a marriage come from broken homes, it's highly likely to fail, unless both of them work really really hard to make it work.

If financial problems run in your family, it's due to lack of financial knowledge and education. The solution is to break that cycle by getting educated in an economically viable profession (not Yoruba Studies) and being enterprising. Also, it would be foolish to make financial decisions based on your parents' advice if your parents are poor or financially illiterate. You need to have advisers who know more than they do.

If bad habits such as alcoholism, smoking or drug addiction run in your family, the solution is to never expose yourself to these vices. Never take a glass of wine. Never try cigarettes. Never try drugs. Never keep a friend who does any of these things. Never go to a party or night club where you will be pressured to try these things. Because you are likely to be more susceptible to addiction than most people. One sip of wine could place you on the path to ruin. So don't risk it! However, if the habit bothering you is masturbation, don't worry about it. It's normal.

The suggestion that any problem that runs in your family could be caused by imaginary "ancestral curses" is damaging because it distracts you from the real causes of your problems and the real solutions. It's not even biblical anyway, in my opinion.

JustCalMeDBoss:


Don't get life twisted because u have a good karma, have u ever wondered why new born babies are been abandoned, been born in the war zones of the world if u believe there is an intelligence that controls the world u believe that intelligence is fair. U think u just happened to be a son of ur father. Or a Yoruba man or a Nigerian. Have u ever wondered why ppl are perculiar e.g igbos like money. Yorubas are cowards. We are all victims of our karma. How can one be born handicapped. There is a fundamental law of creation that pertains to association THE LAW OF HOMOGENEOUS SPICIES OR HOMOGENEITY. Seek and u would find, knock and it shall be opened unto u. The quest for enlightenment is what we all need.