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Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Nobody: 4:23am On Nov 13, 2009
Remii:

Do not give up yet, at least not with wrong notion,. When I said educated I do not mean each person in Anambra, but they have educated and enlighten big wigs, such as Anyaokus, The Ziks, Ezekwezilis, Akunyilis, Ekuemes, Soludos and others one should then think that those people should get onboard vehicle heading for peaceful destination. Bankole, is a toddler when it come to political exprience needed in deep political situation that is in Anambra. Just like we say, it requires and home grown solution. Real will of the people to move on. Just imagine 30 people in a party want to be Governor and none was ready to step down for the other, How do you reconcile that kind of people.

Before I educate you on the problems with Anambra state, I would want to know who the "people" are in the emboldened. PDP people or Anambra people?
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Remii(m): 4:31am On Nov 13, 2009
PDP in Anambra are part of Anambra they intend to rule Anambra, so the people are Anambrians in PDP.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by babapupa: 4:59am On Nov 13, 2009
from: nuzo on Today at 03:05:37 AM
Trust me, even though Anambrarians have not done enough. . . I can assure you that they've tried to fight for democracy and justice more than any other state in Nigeria. Maybe, at per with Ekiti people.
Having encouraged them to fight on, we should not deny the fact that Anambra has been hijacked and held hostage by the FG right from 1999, thereby making it most difficult for the people of Anambra to deal with their own issues.

What's PDP got to do with anything? What's their primary identification? Igbo or PDP?


This is just an excuse. You fight for your own soul and destiny regardless of political affiliation and differences. Lagos did it and refused to buckle under pressure and financial starvation for 8 horrible years and the PDP blinked first.

The fact is, PDP will do to you what you let them do to you and the problem here obviously sounds like the same greed, Ego, demagoguery the rest of the country is paining under.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Onlytruth(m): 5:59am On Nov 13, 2009
@babapupa
I expected nothing less from you. Same mindless accusations. Hear yourself,

"What's PDP got to do with anything?
This is just an excuse. You fight for your own soul and destiny regardless of political affiliation and differences. Lagos did it and refused to buckle under pressure and financial starvation for 8 horrible years and the PDP blinked first.
"

So, you think Anambra state is at liberty to fight like Lagos without someone scheming another genocide?

My friend let me tell you, Anambra state has only one problem -THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA. Achebe pretty much said so.
The weapon of choice against the state? CHRIS UBA and his gang.
For once I agree with Becomrich. We need state police now! Let's see how a Chris Uba can survive in an environment where the State Governor is actually maintaining law and order as the Chief Security Officer.

The other solution is to remove Chris Uba and the PDP into Benin Republic! angry
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by babapupa: 6:09am On Nov 13, 2009
Onlytruth:

@babapupa
I expected nothing less from you. Same mindless accusations. Hear yourself, "This is just an excuse. You fight for your own soul and destiny regardless of political affiliation and differences. Lagos did it and refused to buckle under pressure and financial starvation for 8 horrible years and the PDP blinked first."
You think Anambra state is at liberty to fight like Lagos without someone scheming another genocide?

My friend let me tell you, Anambra state has only one problem -THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA. Achebe pretty much said so.
The weapon of choice against the state? CHRIS UBA and his gang.
For once I agree with Becomrich. We need state police now! Let's see how a Chris Uba can survive in an environment where the State Governor is actually maintaining law and order as the Chief Security Officer.

The other solution is to remove Chris Uba and the PDP into Benin Republic! angry

This blame federal government for everything syndrome is very annoying for real. People don't want to accept responsibility for anything. What else is the federal government responsible for? Your dirty pata or or your homework?


Abeg stop.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Onlytruth(m): 6:16am On Nov 13, 2009
^^^^^
Let's theorize a little. Imagine a scenario where the federal government decides to send the security agents after Chris Uba. How long do you think this mess will continue? Frankly speaking. However, I assure you that it will never happen because the FG needs him for bigger things in the east. I don't need to convince you though. How can a lion ever exculpate an antelope? Never happens!
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by babapupa: 6:31am On Nov 13, 2009
Onlytruth:

^^^^^
Let's theorize a little. Imagine a scenario where the federal government decides to send the security agents after Chris Uba. How long do you think this mess will continue? Frankly speaking. However, I assure you that it will never happen because the FG needs him for bigger things in the east. I don't need to convince you though. How can a lion ever exculpate an antelope? Never happens!

Utter Juvenile talk,


I'll pass,
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by AloyEmeka6: 6:33am On Nov 13, 2009
babapupa:

What's PDP got to do with anything? What's their primary identification? Igbo or PDP?


This is just an excuse. You fight for your own soul and destiny regardless of political affiliation and differences. Lagos did it and refused to buckle under pressure and financial starvation for 8 horrible years and the PDP blinked first.


The fact is, PDP will do to you what you let them do to you and the problem here obviously sounds like the same greed, Ego, demagoguery the rest of the country is paining under.




Didn't Oyo and Ekiti states beg the FG to come to their aid and save them from the shackles of Adedibu and Fayose?
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Onlytruth(m): 6:44am On Nov 13, 2009
babapupa:

Utter Juvenile talk,


I'll pass,

Pass on ol' papa.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by babapupa: 6:51am On Nov 13, 2009
Aloy~Emeka:


Didn't Oyo and Ekiti states beg the FG to come to their aid and save them from the shackles of Adedibu and Fayose?



What's with all the Ekiti diversions? I don't think Ekiti has anything to do with what's going on in Anambra.


Btw, don't even worry. Y'all carry on with your bickering. It gets tiring messing with overly tribalisitc and defensive folks.

You guys keep talking about the federal government as if it's some kind of strange entity from mars. Are your elected leaders from Igbo land not part of every inch of the same federal government?
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by AloyEmeka6: 7:36am On Nov 13, 2009
babapupa:



What's with all the Ekiti diversions? I don't think Ekiti has anything to do with what's going on in Anambra.


Btw, don't even worry. Y'all carry on with your bickering. It gets tiring messing with overly tribalisitc and defensive folks.

You guys keep talking about the federal government as if it's some kind of strange entity from mars. Are your elected leaders from Igbo land not part of every inch of the same federal government?

There is no Ekiti diversion here. You said that Anambrarians are supposed to quell the issue by themselves and that was what lagos did. I now gave you grave scenarios of trying to quell internal problems or do you want a bloodshed before you know the crisis in Anambra is grave?. Even the lagos you are talking about took lives of eminent people during the last election. Should the FG sit tight and hope that locals sought their problems out while they butcher each other?. I remember how Oyo people begged Obasanjo to deliver them from Adedibu for years but FG turned a blind eye to their plight. What kind of govt is insensitive to the plight of its people?. Chris Uba is a BANDIT and if care is not taken, he will rise like Adedibu and make the lives of people hell. Is the FG not able to take him out?. Instead of arresting men like Bode George, I think its far better to jail Chris Uba who threatens the lives of the citizenry with his thug style politics. So check your facts well before running your big mouth. Your problem is you suspect every statement one makes from a tribal point of view and at this rate only Yorubas will be qualifies to condemn fellow yorubas, same goes for igbos and other ethnic groups. Get a grip.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by naijaway(m): 7:47am On Nov 13, 2009
Anambra is at fault here. Am not an expert but I don't need to be one to know. The situation there can be debated strongly at every school or place of choice. Why too many kidnapping? Why too many violent bad belle? Why can't they take it to their advantage by flauting their parties and because it is an even state kinda in terms of parties; That state can become one of the best states in Nigeria in terms of elections because it will be a state where candidates' responsibilities will be held to accountability. All these pettiness, meaness, violence, mass irresponsibility because of power should stop joh. idiots . Their mates in asia, europe, america, and co are doing big things, coming in sleek styles with responsibility to display and perform. Anambra governors and in fact many of the eastern governors except for chime are mumus. Behaving like tah-taas. Why can't they display simulteanous intelligence and work for the progress of the people. Must it be violent FOR PEOPLE TO PERFORM THEIR DUTIES? and why must it matter if it happens somewhere else?. So bad that not a handful of nigerian governors can be applauded for intelligence and performance with a foresight of the state and the nation. Roads are thrash, dirty everywhere, light is no talk matter, innovation is dwindling and not encouraged. We need to sit up o? time is not on nigeria's side like that in terms of the next generation? Many and their kids or grand kids might not live to see a Nigeria that works with initiative.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by agitator: 8:06am On Nov 13, 2009
Nchara:

Bankole is a bloody hypocrite. He should endeavour to answer all the corruption allegations against him and settle the Ekiti and Ogun crises before opening that his fat lips to talk. What an ugly slowpoke.

Remember he is the speaker, and needs to talk. grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Nobody: 8:15am On Nov 13, 2009
He wasn't even accusing them of anything ooo. He was just saying they should speak out. Speak out. No where in the article did he say shame on them. Why are you like this? I don't know this Bankole and I don't care who he is. But I have heard of Chinua Achebe and Alex Ekwueme, No where in that article did he say anything disrespecting to Achebe or Ekwueme. He only asked them to speak out. Is that an insult? If that is an insult then "Fight for your right" should also be seen as an insult.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Afam(m): 8:33am On Nov 13, 2009
babapupa:



What's with all the Ekiti diversions? I don't think Ekiti has anything to do with what's going on in Anambra.


Btw, don't even worry. Y'all carry on with your bickering. It gets tiring messing with overly tribalisitc and defensive folks.

You guys keep talking about the federal government as if it's some kind of strange entity from mars. Are your elected leaders from Igbo land not part of every inch of the same federal government?

I agree with the above. I have had serious and sometimes bitter debates with my friends from Anambra state concerning the issue in Anambra state.

During the time of OBJ it was believed that Chris Uba had the backing of OBJ and I maintained that as long as Chris Uba was able to sponsor a governor and about 20+ law makers in the state then he has support from within the state and that if the people of Anambra do not want him he will become history.

Now, OBJ is not in power and they still believe that FG is holding the people of Anambra hostage and I disagree with this. No army can stand the wrath of the people when the people choose to fight.

As long as all the major players in this political game are from Anambra state then it makes perfect sense to state that these players indeed have support from people within the state unless they are saying that it is non Igbos that are being used to vie for offices or rig elections in the state.

We cannot solve any problem as long as we continue to shift the goal post each time Yekini wan score goal. It simply doesn't make any sense.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Onlytruth(m): 8:43am On Nov 13, 2009
Can anyone remind readers how many mobile police men accompany Chris Uba these days. Please brings facts. I would gracefully withdraw my accusation if it turns out that he has no police escort. Did the FG withdraw his escort? And don't give me that bullcrap about him being a political figure needing escort. Let him go without FG security, and let's see whether he won't be kidnapped.
Two or three kidnappings along the line and Chris Uba will become history. Let him hustle for his security like the rest of us. Let's see how he finds the freedom or space to play god.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by asha80(m): 9:19am On Nov 13, 2009
Is the problem anambra or pdp anambra?
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Afam(m): 9:23am On Nov 13, 2009
asha 80:

Is the problem anambra or pdp anambra?

This particular one is PDP Anambra. Outside the PDP the people of Anambra state have a role to play as regards tolerating the excesses of those they see as destabilizing factors in the state. As long as some people agree to become willing tools in the hands of those that seem to drag the state back and these people are from Anambra state then blaming outsiders is wrong.

This could be termed a case of enemy within.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by bibiking1(m): 10:00am On Nov 13, 2009
I guess if the analogy works then we should be blaming Wole Soyinka for the woes in Ogun state as well
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Nobody: 10:23am On Nov 13, 2009
I still maintain that I can't figure out how non-politicians can wade into a matter created by a political party. Comparing the Lagos crisis with current Anambra crisis is like comparing apples and coconut. Are these eminent Nigerians now meant to be part of PDP? I maintain that there's nothing anyone but the PDP stalwarts like Bankole can do.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by FrankC3: 10:35am On Nov 13, 2009
It is so easy to talk. A country where your vote is not counted and yet somebody is declared winner, a state where somebody that burnt down state owned infrastructure is rewarded with more federal police protection, a state where a state Governor is only the chief security officer os the state on paper, a state where a governor's convoy got blocked by a longer convoy of a known felon in the same state and even an official report of same to the authorities yielded no result, a state where a political party causes a problem for themselves such that same snowball into accusations and counter accusations of kidnapping and only recently, a charge on the intellectuals of the state who are not even members of the same political party nor believe in their ideology to  intervene. Either that Bankole is being naive or he doesn't just know.

It is unwise to suggest that the internal problem of PDP that pertains to the nomination of their own flag bearer should be termed a general state problem when obviously the party has not disciplinary structure and cannot discipline even her own. PDP is in a jam not Anambra state. Even if Anambra state has problem, then they better talk to the likes of Ojukwu who has far more grass root support and stronger profile (though you may disagree form the outside) than rope in Achebe from the classroom. Next time, somebody will ask why Prof Gabriel Oyibo did not advise Ibori when he was looting!! Bull shit!
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Nobody: 10:51am On Nov 13, 2009
It is unwise to suggest that the internal problem of PDP that pertains to the nomination of their own flag bearer should be termed a general state problem when obviously the party has not disciplinary structure and cannot discipline even her own. PDP is in a jam not Anambra state. Even if Anambra state has problem, then they better talk to the likes of Ojukwu who has far more grass root support and stronger profile (though you may disagree form the outside) than rope in Achebe from the classroom. Next time, somebody will ask why Prof Gabriel Oyibo did not advise Ibori when he was looting!! Bull shit!



God bless you. This is exactly the point.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by nethacker(m): 10:58am On Nov 13, 2009
bibiking1:

I guess if the analogy works then we should be blaming Wole Soyinka for the woes in Ogun state as well
abi oooo grin grin
I dnt knw y this bankole of a guy would expect those guys he mentioned to contribute to wats happening in anambra. Does he think dat they drive bullet proof jeeps like them? shocked shocked .If those ones talk now,na so so assasins go dey follow them up and down the streets of Anambra grin grin grin
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by queenesthr(f): 11:54am On Nov 13, 2009
Shame on Bankole
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by agitator: 12:13pm On Nov 13, 2009
Frank-C:

It is so easy to talk. A country where your vote is not counted and yet somebody is declared winner, a state where somebody that burnt down state owned infrastructure is rewarded with more federal police protection, a state where a state Governor is only the chief security officer os the state on paper, a state where a governor's convoy got blocked by a longer convoy of a known felon in the same state and even an official report of same to the authorities yielded no result, a state where a political party causes a problem for themselves such that same snowball into accusations and counter accusations of kidnapping and only recently, a charge on the intellectuals of the state who are not even members of the same political party nor believe in their ideology to  intervene. Either that Bankole is being naive or he doesn't just know.

It is unwise to suggest that the internal problem of PDP that pertains to the nomination of their own flag bearer should be termed a general state problem when obviously the party has not disciplinary structure and cannot discipline even her own. PDP is in a jam not Anambra state. Even if Anambra state has problem, then they better talk to the likes of Ojukwu who has far more grass root support and stronger profile (though you may disagree form the outside) than rope in Achebe from the classroom. Next time, somebody will ask why Prof Gabriel Oyibo did not advise Ibori when he was looting!! Bull shit!

don't mind all the people talking as if it is their own states you will see them coming out to fight.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Afam(m): 12:36pm On Nov 13, 2009
agitator:

don't mind all the people talking as if it is their own states you will see them coming out to fight.

True, some of us may not come out and fight but we will not be blaming people from other states and even tribes for the problems our own brothers are responsible for.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Goldmind1(m): 12:49pm On Nov 13, 2009
This fortunate Bankole is talking too much. Let him ask himself how he has ever contributed in making Nigeria any better. Or he's not among those looters who go on bullet-proof jeeps?
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by pcicero(m): 1:35pm On Nov 13, 2009
Now we seem to be missing it again. Bankole might be a toddler, but he has a responsibility as the Speaker of the federation to say some things.
Truly, Prof Achebe has never kept mute on the Anambra issue and that pitted him against former president OBJ.
As for Soyinka not doing anything in Ogun, i'm sure we all know him better than that, he would not spare them when he thinks they are becoming a nuisance.
I've not been to Anambra in recent times, and most of our comments are based on newspapers' reports and what we see on TV, so if it's being blown out of proportion then don't blame us, blame the media.

However, i can certainly say that all is not well with Anambra, and it doesn't seem to be limited to PDP. It cuts across all the parties PPA, APGA and what have you. I see unbridled egoism and opportunistic tendencies in all the political leaders. It's as if the cultural values espoused by the Achebes and the Anyaokus are no longer in existence. Wisdom seems to have taken flight in Anambra.
I therefore submit, that it is order that they speak some sense into them. Let the various communities regard them as outcasts and let's see what FG can do about that.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Eziachi: 2:44pm On Nov 13, 2009
babapupa:

Some Igbo folks always bury their heads in the sand? I know you guys don't want to here if from Bankole of all people, but he stated what a lot of notable Nigerians have been saying. Of what use are our elders if they're incapable of settling and straitening out differences withing their respective communities?

And what he did or didn't o in Ekiti doesn't take a word away from what he said.


You guys are freeking too tribally defensive.  


Since when has PDP problem becomes Igbo problem? Bankole is yapping, just like in Nairaland, every Dick and Harry tend to be expert on Igbo affairs. When Adedibu was running amork in Oyo, how many times did Bankole called on Oyo elders? And I remembered him paying the old guy their usual courtesy call.
Or will assume that all their elders Oyo are dead then?

Wasn't he a speaker when the fire were burning in Ekiti and Osun and still burning today? Where was his call for action over the present war between Obasanjos vs Daniels, Atiku vs the rest in Adamawa? Did his father tell him the role he played along with Abiola and others as they desperately tried to push/humiliate Awolowo/Bisi Onabanjo out of Ogun/yorubaland between 1979-1983? HYPOCRITES
What has Achebe of all people got to do with problem created by Bankole and friends, their agents of darkness in Igboland?
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Nobody: 3:40pm On Nov 13, 2009
Afam:

I agree with the above. I have had serious and sometimes bitter debates with my friends from Anambra state concerning the issue in Anambra state.

During the time of OBJ it was believed that Chris Uba had the backing of OBJ and I maintained that as long as Chris Uba was able to sponsor a governor and about 20+ law makers in the state then he has support from within the state and that if the people of Anambra do not want him he will become history.

Now, OBJ is not in power and they still believe that FG is holding the people of Anambra hostage and I disagree with this. No army can stand the wrath of the people when the people choose to fight.

As long as all the major players in this political game are from Anambra state then it makes perfect sense to state that these players indeed have support from people within the state unless they are saying that it is non Igbos that are being used to vie for offices or rig elections in the state.

We cannot solve any problem as long as we continue to shift the goal post each time Yekini wan score goal. It simply doesn't make any sense.

I guess its OK for a Lagosian like you to lie and say awful things against Anambra people, but a haram for Diasporans to criticize their corrupt leaders.

Your double standard/hypocrisy stinks to high heavens! angry
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by otokx(m): 3:50pm On Nov 13, 2009
Bankole should stop insulting his elders.
Re: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Onlytruth(m): 4:12pm On Nov 13, 2009
There's only one view relevant in these types of situations. Only one voice is necessary and it has been heard. It is the voice of the great Ikemba!

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