My bad, sorry there kikuyu. Your not talking fantasies, I am talking about designing your own navie being a fantasy not your ideas. I agree with Nigeria being a clear African super power in a decade or so, it's going to need strong industries driving it, yet it also need's cooperation. A ship building enterprise can't be set up over night. But there should be a good market for it in Nigeria. If it can build a space programme, give me one reason why it can't build a ship building programme to rival the likes of Germany, that's if Nigeria's government can get it's act in gear.

I knew you'd see my point. We must start from somewhere! Baby steps until the primary competencies are learned-from then on, anything is possible.

All this expenditure on the military yet our streets are not safe

No proper transport system

No proper health care?

No proper education?

No stable electricy

Who is invading us?

Have we got our priorities right?

We spend less on defense then Ireland. Nigeria's priorities are fine.

GenBuhari:

All this expenditure on the military yet our streets are not safe

No proper transport system

No proper health care?

No proper education?

No stable electricy

Who is invading us?

Have we got our priorities right?

Tell them my dear, tell them.

We have the highest number of peacekeeping troops, but we’re not at peace with each other.

Can a blind man lead a blind man? The answer is no; so what I think is that the government should focus more on providing peace and security to the masses rather than wasting the lives of our military men on other nations in the name of peace keeping.

The nigerian military would have been useful in the Bokassa peninsuala affair. If france had not stepped in.

CrazyMan:

Tell them my dear, tell them.

We have the highest number of peacekeeping troops, but we’re not at peace with each other.

Can a blind man lead a blind man? The answer is no; so what I think is that the government should focus more on providing peace and security to the masses rather than wasting the lives of our military men on other nations in the name of peace keeping.

They are scared of the East. they are scared of biafra! 

[B]Photographer: Peter Nicholson (1984)
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[B]In March 2010 a team from 1st Assault Group Royal Marines (UK) returned to Lagos in Nigeria to provide continuation training for their armed forces. [/B]

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/royalmarines/units-and-deployments/other-royal-marine-units/1-assault-group-royal-marines/news/nigeria-validation-visit/

Awwww i miss my childhood as a military kid. Those were the days

My Thread. . .Thanks to all for resurrecting. . .

So, since we are talking about military here.
Does anyone agree with me that ground forces are almost obsolete?
And naval forces are only usefull in providing a plateform for fighter jets and aircraft carrier defense.
What do you guys think? is naval and ground warfare almost outdated

is Air force and missle war the way of the future?

^^^
No sir! Let me quote from one Nigerian military precis,

". . . . Aircraft can scream across the battlefield bombing and strafing, but when all this is done it requires a man with a rifle in his hand to walk across the ground . . . and deny it to the enemy . . . .There have been attempts to replace manpower with firepower, but the experiment has never succeeded. . . "

". . . . Artillery, tanks and aircraft can break an enemy's spirit, demoralise him, inflict casualties; but unless this is followed up by determined men on foot, the advantage is lost and the effort wasted . . . "

naijangel7:

Awwww i miss my childhood as a military kid. Those were the days

As in barrack boy, Tarzan. . . ?

Chongaiman:

As in barrack boy, Tarzan. . . ?

You be real chongai, ka ji ko?

Chongaiman:

^^^
No sir! Let me quote from one Nigerian military precis,

". . . . Aircraft can scream across the battlefield bombing and strafing, but when all this is done it requires a man with a rifle in his hand to walk across the ground . . . and deny it to the enemy . . . .There have been attempts to replace manpower with firepower, but the experiment has never succeeded. . . "

". . . . Artillery, tanks and aircraft can break an enemy's spirit, demoralise him, inflict casualties; but unless this is followed up by determined men on foot, the advantage is lost and the effort wasted . . . "

A very good example of this was the NATO bombing of Serbia/Kosovo (NATO completely dominant in the air but made zero difference on the ground).
The same scene played out in the Israel/Hezbollah war (Before Israel sent in ground troops).
To a lesser extent (due to rebel fighters on the ground), this is also true of NATO air campaign in Libya.

[size=8pt]The Nigerian armies’ forces they are not good at all they are so bad the use to lie to ladies in Darfur- Sudan
Before I respect Nigerian but after I FALLIN LOVE with Nigerian man I love him so much but I am
Disappointed it on him so now I hate Nigerian people.

Like this man he's a big liar

hinwa:

[size=8pt]The Nigerian armies’ forces they are not good at all they are so bad the use to lie to ladies in Darfur- Sudan
Before I respect Nigerian but after I FALLIN LOVE with Nigerian man I love him so much but I am
Disappointed it on him so now I hate Nigerian people.

Like this man he's a big liar

And so you must have fallen in and out of love with a sudanese man in your past. I hope that you HATE all sudanese people, including yourself now.

@ Hinwa,

What were you thinking?

You obviously lack tact to post that photo.

May be that was the reason he ditched you (if at all).

Please get on with your life as there are still many men for the taking in El Geneina.

US Marines, Senegalese Marines, and Nigerian Navy Special Boat Service (Guys in black) on a training exercise.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao2ZYkaEwKk[/flash]

Nice, Love the video

LOL. Oyibo is teaching monkey how to catch banana.


This tribute rubbish is just one of those "feel good" deceptions that at the end of the day, means nothing. WHere is the tribute to Nigerian FOOD

video looks like 'drive by' abi na ride ~by

all the same, inspite of the modernisation of our Armed forces,

too many mumus are still being recruited IMO

hmmm. . . Time magazine recently published an article about worldwide military spending. Apparently, The Nigerian military is  quite underfunded. With probably the lowest percent Budget from GDP out of any country of around her population.

Cant say i'm complaining though,  I don't want Nigeria to feel obligated to waste lives and millions of dollars in Somalia or ivory coast. That money is for Obasanjo to enjoy.

when i saw it i did not think of it that way, but the idea of Lagos having a police helicopter is actually funny. having an air chase in naija is so cool,
officers driving: eagle 1 wer u day now?
helicopter: forget that guy i day go check out Ghana!!!
lol.
any ways naija is great development is slow but sure,
n as i alwayz say
IT DEPENDS ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR,

i ask people, if u come with 12 million dollars n say u want 2 build a road , granted they may not name d road after u but which idiot in power will say no? if u build a hospital and donate it to the government will they refuse
? never, so somtimes instead of runnnig our mouths we can contribute 2 national development!!!! yea , if u dont like smtg dont come here and start hating on people posting pics, go change it.

For example buy the aircraft carrier!! naija will say a big thank Sir!!!lol

I told you the time is ripe to start a serious indigenous ship building industry! It seems someone agrees with me:

India’s largest shipbuilding firm ABG Shipyard Ltd is forming a joint venture to set up a large shipbuilding yard in Nigeria. ABG Shipyard, which lost out to Bharati Shipyard in a domestic takeover battle for control of Great Offshore about a year ago, is expected to own 40 per cent stake in a JV with a group of Nigerian investors including Nkrah Investment Ltd (a provider of marine operations and logistics services) and BGL Private Equity Ltd (a wholly owned subsidiary of BGL Plc., a Nigerian investment bank)

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Besides building ships, it will also construct oil drilling rigs, support & offloading vessels, LNG carrier vessels, container carriers, patrol vessels and military equipment for the Navy.

The local government has reportedly earmarked 250 hectares of land for the project, which is said to have a geographical advantage as it can benefit from the Nigerian gas pipeline project.

Besides boosting growth in the region, the upcoming venture will also catalyse shipyard business in Nigeria,

Make a good start. Start somewhere.Then develop further. Build your patrol boats,corvettes then after a while you can move onto frigates and destroyers. Too many times negroes want to jump into new things full steam ahead without adequate preparation. When everything is effed over they start pointing fingers.
You're making a positive beginning!

Forgot the link. Here:http://www.offshoreenergytoday.com/indian-abg-shipyard-ltd-establishes-jv-to-open-large-shipbuilding-yard-in-nigeria/
Here are some of their successfully completed projects:
[img]http://connect.in.com/abg-shipyard/photos-1-1-1-d954d681138c35ef6cc09a3053c60f6f.html[/img]
[img]http://connect.in.com/abg-shipyard/photos-1-1-1-1311a06be909473a788b497743e7ed92.html[/img]
Once you have an up and running shipyard with reputable local engineers its easier to licence build foreign designs since costs come down.

i think the nigerian military wil go places if only the politicians can be focused and the able to define nigerias strategic goals in africa and indeed the world.

the nigerian military will need to spend money on more morden equipment.as for the airforce we need to focus on 4th generation type mulirole fighters,this business of f-7 planes was a waste except they are to be used for agresor training.the days of interceptors are long gone. we planes like f-16 or mig-29smk and d likes for our air defence and strike capability needs then we also need dedicated ground attack birds like su-25.we also need to focus on logistics issues as it is nigerias air lift capabilities is a joke.in my own opinion we need to focus most on our air lift and survelance capabilities.as for the navy nigeria is a mojor oil exporter and most of our economy is reliant on the sea.we need to be able to defend our sea lane and escort our marchant ships wen the time comes.a single frigate and 4 corvets is laugherable.we can buy some second hand frigates and atlist a destroyer as the nations flag ships.another thing we need to do is intregrate this platforms force coherdsion.

abeggnow:

the nigerian military will need to spend money on more morden equipment.as for the airforce we need to focus on 4th generation type mulirole fighters,this business of f-7 planes was a waste except they are to be used for agresor training.the days of interceptors are long gone. we planes like f-16 or mig-29smk and d likes for our air defence and strike capability needs then we also need dedicated ground attack birds like su-25.we also need to focus on logistics issues as it is nigerias air lift capabilities is a joke.in my own opinion we need to focus most on our air lift and survelance capabilities.as for the navy nigeria is a mojor oil exporter and most of our economy is reliant on the sea.we need to be able to defend our sea lane and escort our marchant ships wen the time comes.a single frigate and 4 corvets is laugherable.we can buy some second hand frigates and atlist a destroyer as the nations flag ships.another thing we need to do is intregrate this platforms force coherdsion.

All this will cost money that does not exist at the moment. Unless you are suggesting we divert more funds from other sectors to the military cause those politicians enjoying the 'national cake' are not going to reduce their intake for the sake of the military.

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The term tribute in this context implies outstanding performance and laudable achievement, the question however, has to be qualified on a comparative basis. Who are we the giant of Africa comparing ourselves to? Ghana, Senegal, Cameroun or should it not be S.Africa, Egypt and maybe Libya.

I find it disturbing to see we still have in service AK47’s as our standard issue rifle, they don’t even have optical sights. All modern armies have optical sights on their assault rifles as standard issue some even dual optical sights. In reality it makes a huge difference between firing multiple rounds before one hit or just a few and one hit. Furthermore it means you don’t have so many stray bullets hitting civilians as we can testify in Nigeria, the issue is quality not quantity.

Another question who on this forum would rather have a 3 year old Mercedes or a brand new Chinese car, I rest my case with Chinese sourced fighter planes.

I commend our armed forces who with quite often substandard equipment do an amazing job for us.

Finally I like the look of the rifles our SS are carrying they look like HK36 and also the TAR21 but not sure.