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| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by montelik(m): 7:34am On Feb 08, 2010 |
some of u guys really need to see your shrinks . . . @ Dr Kitaun. If that was directed at me let me clarify. Never did I say that Onigbinde was a bad coach. The point of my whole post is to highlight the destructive cycle we have been engaged in since the 98 world cup qualifiers involving Troussier and now 2010 in SA. Personally there was no realistic way Onigbinde could have achieved anything sensible (which he didn't). Instead of us to learn by now from knee jerk reaction and stupid ideas, we are instead doubling down on this stupidity. They say the definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by snakova(m): 5:33pm On Feb 08, 2010 |
Sagamite:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_disease This is just so that every NLander would see you for the semi-illiterate you are. Dr Kitaun:Yakubu is better than any striker naija has at the moment. He has the 2nd best goals per min average in the EPL (2nd only to Henry) with 20 goals per fit season. If you watched the few min he played against L'pool u'd understand his poor performance at ANC is not his fault but Amodu's. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by snakova(m): 5:48pm On Feb 08, 2010 |
I personally would still like to see Amodu on the naija bench for the WC, even as a mascot. It is and would be totally unfair to exclude him completely from anything to do with the coaching crew. Playing badly or not, he still qualified naija for the last two times, at least he should see SA with the team.  Maybe the FA is trying to pull a fast one by saying he'd handle a friendly b4 resigning. Time would tell.  |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by Sagamite(m): 6:50pm On Feb 08, 2010 |
snakova: This guy, Jeeesus!  I weep for you. You are 26 years old?You are really not the sharpest tool in the box, are you? So it is a variant of bird flu that you were calling mad cow earlier? One is from being in contact with birds, the other is from consumption of infected meat. Are you telling me, you were not intelligent enough, despite my ridiculing you over and over again, to read your wiki report before presenting yourself here to be cut into slices again?  Can you see why I think you are not smart and that I am not wrong?26 years old? And later you would wonder why you are unemployable for a graduate-level job in Nigeria talkless of UK. I actually feel sorry for you. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by snakova(m): 7:01pm On Feb 08, 2010 |
Sagamite:You are impossible. Abi mad cow is not animal related? Which ship smuggled you into the UK That all said you stil gat a lotta Balls keeping this thread even after your beloved NFF have tot you to grow some brains. Sha, when the skull is empty, nothing you can do to enlighten it. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by Sagamite(m): 7:50pm On Feb 08, 2010 |
snakova: Dimwit, don't even try that shite with me. I am smarter than all the teachers and lecturers that have taught you put together. Are you saying you did not think bird flu was mad cow? snakova: snakova: So why are you saying someone that has the disease from "Newcastle" that is a flu-type disease needs to see a shrink? Dumbo, your intelligence is too low. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by omar22(m): 8:04pm On Feb 08, 2010 |
Dimwit, don't even try that shite with me. I am smarter than all the teachers and lecturers that have taught you put together. Are you saying you did not think bird flu was mad cow? |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by TexMex: 8:27pm On Feb 08, 2010 |
Sagamite: I 'd like to correct the wrong impression some people have about ONIGBINDE as to conclude that he failed. Coach Adeboye Onigbinde didn't fail in his tenure as Coach of the Super Eagles. The players he took to the World Cup were the best NIGERIA had as at that time. Those who were excluded know the reasons why they were left out. For the records, OLISEH and FINIDI missed out due to disciplinary issues. No matter how good/talented a footballer is, if he's undisciplined, he could be a minus to the team. AIYEGBENI was excluded from the World Cup party in 2002 because he just had an eye surgery and the Coach felt it won't be good to risk him. VICTOR AGALI refused to show up in camp in protest at the punishment meted out to OLISEH and FINIDI. I can go on and on to give you specific reasons why certain players were not at the 2002 soccer mundial. So take it from me: the guys that featured for NIGERIA were the best (in terms of passion and character) that NIGERIA had at that point in time. And it is noteworthy that subsequent coaches after ONIGBINDE have not deemed it fit to invite OLISEH, FINIDI GEORGE and AGALI (plus other established footballers who were left out) in Super Eagles engagements after the World Cup. Are we to conclude that the affected players suddenly went 'bad' after the World Cup? No one was even clamouring for their recall unlike when OKOCHA retired from International football. The same fiasco of 2002 is dogging OLISEH's aspirations to coach any of the National teams. Few have forgotten the events of 2002 In the run-up to the 2002 World Cup, we all could see the strengths and weaknesses in the team. NIGERIA could see the good work the coach was doing. And if not for the loss against SWEDEN (in a match we outplayed and out-foxed our opponents but were denied severally by the wood-work), NIGERIA would have qualified from her group. I don''t see that as failure. With discovery and infusion of new talents into the team, I could see potential. It was not surprising that several people were clamouring for ONIGBINDE to continue in the saddle. They could see the developmental programs the coach had rolled out. Chief Taiwo Ogunjobi put paid to our dreams and brought in Christian Chukwu instead (after ONIGBINDE had refused to apply for the job) Football is not played based on past statistics, otherwise the likes of YEKINI should still be in the team. Football is played based on current form. Same applies to the coach. When a coach can no longer grind out results, then he/she is approaching his/her sell by date. Lots of people have pooh-poohed AMODU's tactics at ANC 2010, and it is noteworthy that complaints against him arose even before the ANC. I really love reading MUMINI ALAO of COMPLETE SPORTS and he spoke my mind on the ANC and AMODU issue in his column of last week. Some folks have stated that we should take things step by step. In their reasoning, since we exited ANC 2008 at the Quarter final stage, we should be satisfied with a Semi-final place this year, while we aim for Gold in 2012. To such thinking maybe added the idea that since we missed out of 2006 World Cup, we should be satisfied with Qualifying for the 2010 mundial and not expect anything more. These folks forget that football is played in the moment, for the moment and has no transitive value. With the exit of COTE D'IVOIRE, I had entertained hopes that the SUPER EAGLES would win the ANC 2010. While we could have won it, AMODU bungled it. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by omar22(m): 9:19pm On Feb 08, 2010 |
TexMex As much as I like your note, Amodu was not the answer, he was in it for his own little gain, scheming fund of players just to be in the squad, he showed no sign of someone competent of changing a game on its head, he is useless |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by DrKitaun(m): 12:36am On Feb 09, 2010 |
TexMex: Can I buy u a drink, paraga if u dont mind  Brilliant Analysis !  |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by Sagamite(m): 1:56am On Feb 09, 2010 |
@TexMex I refuse to accept that the likes of Adepoju (that looked 42 then despite claiming 31), Opabunmi, Ogbeche (that scored a flambouyant bicycle kick, hence became WC material), Akwuegbu (please make I no begin dey laugh as I would not finish this post), Christopher Justice, Eric Ejiofor etc were the best we have at that time. Telling me Justice is any better than Oliseh (even on walking stick) then is not on at all. After the WC, hardly did any of Onigbinde's junk get much caps for SE after that and neither did they develop in club career as MAJORITY'S club career went down the doldrum. So I find it hard to accept your argument that "With discovery and infusion of new talents into the team, I could see potential". The new blood the quack brought were: Bartholomew Ogbeche Austin Ejide Rabiu Afolabi Justice Christopher Eric Ejiofor James Obiorah John Utaka Vincent Enyeama Femi Opabunmi And brought back some old legs after locking out some players from camp: Benedict Akwuegbu Mutiu Adepoju Bar the bolded, 2 keepers and Utaka, the majority were a shambles we did not hear of again (except maybe Afolabi but he is not SE material). Bar these 3, I dare even say that the careers of Oliseh, Finidi, Agali, Oruma, Aiyegbeni still out-shone that of these junks in the years after the WC. Adepoju and Akwuegbu are by no measure at that point in time as good as the five players not allowed to camp. So I don't accept the players were the best we had then. 1) They did not play well at WC, none of the new bloods made an impact 2) They did not have any relevance to SE after WC (only ONE outfield player had relevance afterwards) 3) They did not excel even at club level after WC, it is even easily documented that majority of the new players' careers went downhill Onigbinde did not have an open-camp. He was a yesman to corrupt moooorons who instructed him not to invite or accept certain players (despite claiming open camp) that challenged their thieving under the excuse of "indiscipline". The man would have done well by taking a few fresh blood with hunger alond with the "old legs" but he was listening to instructions. How the hell is it indiscipline to ask for your flight refund (that should be automatically credited to your bank account in a sane society)? |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by TexMex: 4:59am On Feb 09, 2010 |
@SAGAMITE Now you 're speaking with the benefit of hindsight, and we all know that hindsight vision is 20/20 (perfect). As at March 2002, some of the players you listed were regulars in their clubs. In fact Bartholomew Ogbeche was in the first eleven at PSG while OKOCHA was in the reserves at same PSG! AGALI, AIYEGBENI and ORUMA were not barred from camp. The disciplinary issues involving OLISEH and FINIDI was more than the reported demand for refund of the money for their flight tickets. News reports had it that they were disrespectful to the then Sports Minister ISHAYA AKU. Not only that, at the 2002 ANC there were reports of ego clashes reminiscent of the one PEP GUARDIOLA had to tackle when he took over at BARCELONA forcing him (PEP) to do away with the services of RONANDINHO and ETOO. It was all these that ONIGBINDE took into consideration and had to excuse OLISEH and FINIDI. Like I said in my earlier post, AGALI was invited but he refused to turn up having been persuaded not to report to camp by the duo of OLISEH and FINIDI. He even granted an interview saying there was an agreement between them that he (AGALI) should not go if OLISEH and FINIDI were not invited. This was corroborated by OLISEH when he said they felt it is those who qualified the country for the World Cup that should feature in it. ORUMA was invited and even took part in some of the friendlies. On account of his performances in the friendlies, I wasn't surprised that his name was not in the final list. I remember he was introduced as a sub in NIGERIA's friendly with IRELAND (which the Eagles won 2-1). He missed a sitter in the said friendly, and his introduction (when the Eagles were already 2-0 up) weakened the Eagles mid-field allowing the IRISH boys to pull one back. ORUMA granted an interview on the eve of the World Cup saying he understood why his name was missing from the final list. AIYEGBENI too featured in some friendlies, and I already gave you the reason ONIGBINDE gave for excluding him. Needless to say, AIYEGBENI was not happy with the decision to exclude him, and said he 'd never forgive ONIGBINDE. MUTIU ADEPOJU's inclusion caused much furor and accusations of tribalism when the list was released, and I remember ONIGBINDE said the reason he included MUTIU was the need for him (MUTIU) to encourage the boys. In fairness to all parties, MUTIU was never used in any of the Eagles games and it was difficult (as at then) to see who could have gone in MUTIU's stead. So I cannot accuse ONIGBINDE of 'wasting' a players spot by taking MUTIU. And BTW, does your AMODU give anyone reasons for his player selections? Now, if I may ask you: How many of the ANC 2002 players that did not feature in the 2002 World Cup did we hear of again in glorious light? Victor Ikpeba? Murphy Akanji? Pascal Ojigwe? Ndubuisi Egbo? OLISEH? FINIDI? And for your information: Christopher Justice and Eric Ejiofor were both at ANC 2002. So my man, if we have no players now, we had even worse to pick from in 2002. But so was the rest of AFRICA (apart from SENEGAL and maybe CAMEROUN) in 2002, so our dearth of WC materials was not too noticeable. That not many of the players selected for the mundial eventually had renowned careers is none of the coaches' fault. Like my dad would say: "Anjorin, a o m'ori olowo" (meaning: we are walking together but do not know he who is destined to be rich). Good coaches field players on current form and need basis. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by Sagamite(m): 9:44am On Feb 09, 2010 |
Hmmm. Maybe you are right with some of your analysis, but Ogbeche had barely played 10 matches for PSG then. It did not make sense to take a teenager just breaking into first team as our No 1 striker to the WC. Ejiofor and Justice were bench warmers, coming as understudy at ANC, Onigbinde put them as first teamers. Neither did it make sense to drop Pascal Ojigwe who was a firm regular for the Bundesliga Champions, his career went downhill due to injury in 2002/3 (I guess age did not help the healing). I personally don't see anything wrong with Oliseh and co being rude to Minister, I only fault them for not insulting him in public for thieving. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by snakova(m): 2:05pm On Feb 09, 2010 |
Sagamite:Even my teenage bro knows newcastle is an animal related disease. that makes you an infant. In case you haven't heard of metonymy in English language, try and study harder, cos u're acting like a gorilla in London zoo. You are seriously incapacitated to be putting up threads on NL. jack arse. Dr Kitaun:seconded. Naija almost survived the group of death. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by snakova(m): 2:10pm On Feb 09, 2010 |
@ Sagamite Since you are silly enough not to get the analogy with all the english in the world then its as shakespeare said 'this monkey looks so human, except for his conception of basic linguistic terms'. I meant that rhethorically, jack arse. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by Sagamite(m): 2:18pm On Feb 09, 2010 |
snakova: snakova: Fooool! No, you bumped into a name of a disease and tried to use it but goofed because you are daft. A flu is not treated by a shrink. Moooron, why will I need to know the nickname of a poultry disease? That is how low your intelligence is that you feel proud of knowing one. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by snakova(m): 2:49pm On Feb 09, 2010 |
Sagamite:shakes head. Just an uninformed, idiotic, illogical, illiterate, ignorant little brat. I am not talking about your age but your monkey brain. The same type of monkey brain that would believe H1N1 na oyibo disease. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by Sagamite(m): 1:27am On Feb 11, 2010 |
snakova: Pathetic dimwit, you are not smart because you know a nickname of a poultry disease. That is shakara you can use at your Teachers Training College, not in my league. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by snakova(m): 3:24pm On Feb 12, 2010 |
Sagamite:And what differentiates an illiterate from a literate person? maybe you should watch some 'are you smarter than a 5th grader'. That way, you could learn more Question, why is it only intelligent people do well on 'jeopardy'? Information jack arse, the lack of which makes you a jack arse. The same lack of info (or ineptitude) that led you to say Amodu was our best coach ever. The same lack of info (or ineptitude) that makes you compare Amodu and Hiddink, or even westerhof. The list goes on. So my dear |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by ow11(m): 4:12pm On Feb 12, 2010 |
I would like to humbly suggest at this point that Snakova and Lord Sagamite get a room and get it over with!  |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by Sagamite(m): 7:22pm On Feb 12, 2010 |
snakova: What a moooron! Three sentences and there is a goof. Ediot, so you know one poultry flu (that you thought was "mad cow" and you are smart? LWKMD "Only intelligent people do well on jeopardy?" Goof of them all. This is another example of how low your intelligence is. These are the kind of statements that suggest the education system as failed you and you are bound for failure in life. Reading about something and storing information (wrongly, in your dumb case) is not intelligence, dimwit. Where the hell did they pass you out of school? Intelligence involves being able to deal with complex, multi-dimensional issues and understanding the wider perspective of the affects leading to the problem and effects of the solution. At 26? Dumbo! |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by snakova(m): 2:01pm On Feb 15, 2010 |
Sagamite:No, not smart cos you know one poultry flu, cos only a jack arse wouldn't know. It seems I am On the wrong channel. Reading and storing info ( a retentive memory) is an indicator of Intelligence jack arse. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=U9iQPj8ltOsC&pg=PA124&lpg=PA124&dq=retentive+memory+intelligence+quotient&source=bl&ots=b0S5PVluyp&sig=nL7DbBtZunFJOKA-0UcuuVp9agE&hl=en&ei=10B5S5jdHoOM0gT4w_SjCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CCQQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=&f=false . Advanced psychology: applications, issues and perspectives By Christine Brain It seems you don't even know what 'jeopardy' is about. You are a real semi-illiterate. Maybe i should handle you at your agbero level. So, Amodu can't be coach cos he doesn't have any natural attacking midfielder like jay-jay in his team, that is why his boys can't score. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by Sagamite(m): 2:07pm On Feb 15, 2010 |
snakova: And is it not only a moooron that would assert a poultry flu is mad cow? |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by snakova(m): 2:37pm On Feb 15, 2010 |
Sagamite:metonymy you dumb arse f***k. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by Sagamite(m): 4:58pm On Feb 15, 2010 |
snakova: No, it is daft ignorance when you knew I was going to rip you apart. A foool at 26. |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by jaybee3(m): 4:59pm On Feb 15, 2010 |
u guys are still at it? Saga pls spare the guy na |
| Re: My Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Super Eagles Coach by snakova(m): 6:14pm On Feb 15, 2010 |
Sagamite:where did it rip apart? the part you didn't know a good memory is part of intelligence or the 'i am so dumb i don't know what metonymy is' part? I tot you had a progressive brain but going by your earlier and later posts it seems you are retrogressing badly. like i earlier said, see a shrink. I am saying this as a friend, saga. |
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