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Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by honsule(m): 11:00am On Mar 10, 2010 |
igbo boy: Fight Back won't solve the problem and moreover, it is not in the Scripture:Bible Let God arise, be scatter |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Glorya(f): 12:02pm On Mar 10, 2010 |
What kind of cowards kill people in their sleep, even children and pregnant women? That is the height of wickedness. kpof where are u in Jos? No one slept last nitecos of that jihad text though i did'nt hear any gunshots. This town is messed up. Shops, offices, banks, schools are closed. Like someone said, will jos students be given a different waec/jamb to write? Why should we all be held to ransom because of some particular set of people? Plateau indigenes pls fight for your land, defend yourselves before you are forced to seek refuge in another mans land. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by DisrealAm(f): 1:27pm On Mar 10, 2010 |
our government don't care! they re only concern in Money |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by ajalio(f): 3:02pm On Mar 10, 2010 |
Here some German press comments - I have tried to translate. Please, be lenient with me. Giant on clay feet From Thomas Frankenfeld März in 2010, 06:23 With population of 160 millions, the 2,5-fold surface of Germany and huge oil wealth Nigeria is a giant of the future. Theoretically. Since his varied problems work as if a research team had sketched them for a cynical Plan play: scarcely one half of the population Christian, the other Muslim, both hostile up to the blood, decades of crude tyranny, a cleptocraticle élite with starving masses, almost unbelievable corruption, Criminal activity and environmental destruction, a life expectancy of a good 50 years. Though the mutual massacres of Christians and Muslims also have to act with religion, primarily, however, with desperation. These are bloody distribution and Survival fights in a torn multinational state without democratic Traditions and with a weak government. The mightiest country of West Africa offers ideal brood relations for Muslim extremism and slipping off in a regionally failed state. Jos - the frontier city of the arsonists In Nigeria Muslims close Jos have killed 500 Christians. However, in the conflict it goes less about religion, than rather about water and pastureland. Hamburg / Lagos. There is also hope. About 70 Christians and Muslims met recently in the north-east of Nigeria. They sat in a conference hall of a small church in the place Kwarhi, the walls of concrete, the roof from corrugated sheet. Imams and priests were there, also students and youngsters of both religious directions, it ran religious songs from a CD player. They consulted on how they together can prevent that their country is torn along the religion - in a bloody fight for ground, resources and rights. Since there were dead people again, again it was a massacre. The offenders came at night, with guns and machetes. Some shouted: "Allahu akbar!" They killed about 500 people. Predominantly Christians. Nobody knows exact sacrificial figures. It has given 95 arrests. Some Nigerian media speak of a revenge file. Since only few weeks ago violent riots also ended between Christian and Muslims with several Hundred dead people, most from them Muslims. Violence between the religions blazes on since the end of the military dictatorship in 1999 always again - the tracks of these massacres lead to Jos. In the town, which betrays a lot about, how religion is abused as a fire accelerator for bloody riots and power in Africa. Half a million people live in Jos. "After the last riots in January police patrols and the military, there are checkpoints, on many street corners at night if is curfew", says Jochen Kirsch. He is a priest of the Protestant church of the Pfalz and was with the riots in January just for the Christian charitable organisation mission 21 in Nigeria. Christians and Muslims make Jos the frontier city - to a bastion in the middle of the country, on the border between the Christian south and the Muslim stamped north of Nigeria where the sharia rules. "Nevertheless, it is no conflict between the religions - and no religious war", says Kirsch. Religion serves the sharp makers as a pretext for violence against the other ethnicity. "Behind apparently religious conflicts stands the fight around political and economic power", says priest Kirsch. The fight for work, ground, food. Now three places a little bit outside from Jos were an aim of the attack. There live predominantly relatives of the Christian Berom-ethnic group. The attackers are according to local authorities Muslim Fulani. The Berom are established farmers, the Fulani nomadic living cattle breeders. The springs of the conflict are waters, pastureland and field. Remains the economic success fail to come, religious fanatics have an easy play: Scapegoat is the other group. "Mistrust and bitterness on both sides grow", says Kirsch. There comes, that the political guidance of the richest in population state of Africa was headless and action-incapable for months. The president Umaru Yar'Adua has himself hard ill set off to Saudi Arabia. Vice president Goodluck Jonathan is meanwhile new head of state - however, also he could not stabilise the security in the country. He governs in a time, where in the rich in oil Niger delta the most important rebel's group revoked Armistice. In the north of the country influence of radical islamists grows. Even the terror network al-Qaeda has announced at the beginning of February the islamists in Jos his support. Matthias Basedau from GIGA institute of Africa studies holds an end of the massacres for incredibly. And, nevertheless, he says: "However, I do not count on a national Civil war." Osnabrück (ots) - On the powder keg Quickly the tensions heat up in Nigeria - and the situation is as dangerous as slightly inflammatory material. However, only superficially is behind the latest massacre a mainly religiously motivated conflict between Muslims and Christians. This is also wrong as like the assertion, in Northern Ireland it is about a confessional quarrel between Catholics and Protestants. Nomadic cattle breeders against established farmers, locals against immigrants, competition around water, pastureland and arable land, in addition tribe conflicts: This are deeper recumbent causes of the flamed up anew quarrels in the middle of Nigeria, the state richest in population of Africa. There comes: The government owns currently actually not the power monopoly. The state is not so capable of acting as it would be necessary - and the soldiers of the army were not willing or not able, to protect the victims of infringements. Hence, peace work is asked to stop the hatred and to prevent fatal, endless chain reaction of revenge and repayment. And because the politics fails, the religions come into play here again. Their temperate leaders like the Catholic Archbishop of Jos, Ignatius Ayau Kaigama, and the Muslim emir of Wase, Alhaji Haruna Abdullahi, have already demonstrated in the past, what reconciliation means. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Nobody: 6:01pm On Mar 10, 2010 |
As tension mounts in central Nigerian villages after Sunday's bloodshed in three mostly Christian villages, the state governor says the army could have prevented the attack if it had responded to warnings of the raid. Plateau State Governor Jonah Jang says the army failed to act, despite intelligence suggesting an attack was imminent. He spoke of how his personal effort to galvanize the troops into action yielded very little. "I received a report at about 9 p.m. [Saturday night] that some movements of some people with arms were seen around those villages, and I reported to the commander of the army. And he told me he was going to move some troops there," he said. "Three hours or so later, I was woken by a call that they have started burning the villages and people were being hacked to death. And I started trying to locate the commanders; I could not get any of them on the telephone." Governor Jang, a retired senior air force officer, regretted that state governors in Nigeria have little control over security forces, and yet are deemed to be in charge of security in their states. "You are the chief security officer of the state yet you do not command even a fly," he said. "What do you use to stop anything? The security people must have to double up their efforts, particularly the army that said they are now taking over the security of Plateau State because the police is unable to cope. So I expect that the army should live up to expectation and stop the carnage in Plateau state. If they cannot, then they should as well get out of the place." The city of Jos has been under a dusk-to-dawn curfew enforced by the military since a similar crisis in January led to the death of more than 300 persons and thousands were displaced. It is not clear how the attackers managed to elude the military curfew early Sunday. Officials said more than 500 people from the mainly Christian Berom ethnic group were hacked to death by a Muslim clan in three villages early Sunday. Thousands have been killed in recent years in Jos, located 350 kilometers northeast of the Nigerian capital, Abuja. Already, some Berom gangs have vowed reprisal against the killers, adding to tension in villages in and around Jos. Nigeria's acting President Goodluck Jonathan sacked the country's national security adviser on Monday. The West African country is almost evenly divided between Muslims in the north and the predominantly Christian south. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by kpofkpof: 7:37pm On Mar 10, 2010 |
Glorya: Loud gunshots at Tudun Wada, i even called people at Rock Haven, they heard sirens and few gunshots as well. We were all at alert Like you said it aint funny anymore. Shops, offices and some banks didnt open. i wonder when all this would end |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by gowaga68: 8:29pm On Mar 10, 2010 |
y do ppl just conclude without knowing the course of the matter? the case of JOS is not Religious but ethical . How can an Hausa man Claim to be from JOS where by the state is owned by Birom,Angas,etc the last case was just a revenge of what was done to them, look back at what happened at Shandam and it's surroundings that's just want happened now, some Fulani's were sacked from the state they had to leave to Bauchi and the Governor said some nasty things about it, do you know those people lost a lot of things, what happened again? they had to come back for what they lost by doing this unlawful act.too bad. It's really unfortunate. May the Souls of all the victims rest in peace. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Thirdborn: 8:33pm On Mar 10, 2010 |
I don't remember ever being as angry as i am with Nigerian leaders and politicians. Do you know why many people are afraid to commit crimes? It's because of fear of punishment. How the hell can the Jos problem be solved if people believe they can massacre innocent citizens and get away with it. For heavens sake these bastards called our leaders should prove they have no hand in this crisis by prosecuting the mobs that have have been mowing people down for the past few years. It is not too late to do this. By the time a couple of thousand of these murderers have been arrested, tried and executed, i doubt if many others will find mob action attractive. There is no way there can be peace if these people are still free because they simply lay low and plan other attacks. For heaven's sake the Nigerian government cannot sit idle and do nothing, |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Fhemmmy: 8:33pm On Mar 10, 2010 |
Thirdborn: Great question |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Nobody: 11:19pm On Mar 10, 2010 |
Glorya: You are talking about people possessed by the devil himself. I have seen enough violence here in the UK from Muslims who now want to impose Sharia in some parts of the UK, in short they seek to dominate societies by stealth through indoctrination, infiltration and Jihad. Muhammad himself if you do some research was cunning in that he only made peace with his enemies when they were in greater strength and number than he and his people. But after a period they regrouped in increased numbers and attacked the enemy without warning in what were usually massacre style killings. These people say we worship the same God but I disagree, the God of the bible is not a mass murderer or liar. Fanatical Muslims are cowards, they normally cannot attack man to man, so they attack at night mostly when people are sleeping and if there is a real war just like in Palestine or Iraq they throw bombs while hiding behind little children and women. The solution is not to retaliate but to find a lasting peace of which security is of paramount importance. The citizens of Jos need protection from these bandits We normally say like father like son. Well we can also say like Muhammad like Muslims. Do you know when I was in Kano I watched in horror when girls of between 9 - 14 years were married off to men twice their age. its a mess really !!! |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Nobody: 11:31pm On Mar 10, 2010 |
kpofkpof: Thousands of Christians are praying for Jos and I will join them. The most important thing is that Christians do not retaliate so that we end up as savage as they are ? But if you think that the cry of babies and wailing of mothers will go unpunished you are mistaken. When cain killed Abel God told him ' the blood of your brother crieth to me from the ground ' Well the blood of millions around the world , victims of Islamic Jihad are crying from the ground, and be 100% SURE THAT THIS BLOOD will be avenged by God himself. Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. Islam is the cause of most of the deaths above and God will avenge his people. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by ayinba1(f): 12:17am On Mar 11, 2010 |
I will say it again. Islam is a religion of peace. Please stop displaying your total ignorance or hatred by claiming otherwise. You hate muslims with no cause. Muslims are against unwarranted killings as have been going on in Jos, Not too long ago, a lot of Muslims were murdered in this same Jos. A lot of you on these forum blamed the muslims saying that they deserved it. Now the non muslims are murdered/ in retaliation/ you blame the muslims again. You continue to miss the point. If the perpertrator of a criminal act is not brought into justice, the cycle will never end. And as you tuck yourselves into bed, think of ways of chanelling your energy towards finding a solution. All this hatred and Islambashing is not going to help you or anyone. And wishing all muslims bad, well, you know the remaining four fingers point right back at you. Think, again it is not easy, but try before you post. Your utterances here are not likely to prevent a repeat of these kinds of events and You are the future of this nation; I shudder. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by ayinba1(f): 12:20am On Mar 11, 2010 |
@stillwater It is hard to see the other person's viewpoint when there is so much despair. i am only making an attempt so you can view these ugly events with a little less bias. If you know who the culprits are, how come they got away with it the first t ime, targetting one group? and this time targetting another group? |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by slimfine(f): 12:31am On Mar 11, 2010 |
Christians living in the mist of Muslim in the north is a big no no! maybe if they don't find christian to kill, they will start killing themselves. barbarians! |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Nobody: 12:46am On Mar 11, 2010 |
Men detained by police, in the wake of religious violence in Jos, Nigeria, sat in a police waiting room on Wednesday JOS, Nigeria — Dispassionately, the baby-faced young man recounted his killings: two women and one man, first beaten senseless with a stick, then stabbed to death with a short knife. The man, Dahiru Adamu, 25, was crouching on the floor in the sprawling police headquarters here, summoned to give an accounting of the terrible night of March 7, when, he said, he and dozens of other herdsmen descended on a slumbering village just south of here and slaughtered hundreds with machetes, knives and cutlasses in a brutal act of sectarian retribution. On Monday and Tuesday, 332 bodies were buried in a mass grave in the village of Dogo Na Hawa, the Nigerian Red Cross said Wednesday. Human rights groups and the state government say that as many as 500 may have been killed in the early hours of Sunday morning, in three different villages. Sunday’s killings were an especially vicious expression of long-running hostilities between Christians and Muslims in this divided nation. Jos and the region around it are on the fault line where the volatile and poor Muslim north and Christian south meet. In the past decade some 3,000 people have been killed in interethnic, interreligious violence in this fraught zone. The pattern is familiar and was seen as recently as January: uneasy coexistence suddenly explodes into killing, amplified for days by retaliation. Mr. Adamu is a Muslim herdsman, and he said he went to Dogo Na Hawa, a village of Christians living in mud-brick houses on dirt streets, to avenge the killings of fellow Muslims and their cattle in January. The operation had been planned at least several days in advance by a local organization called Thank Allah, said one of Mr. Adamu’s fellow detainees, Ibrahim Harouna, shackled on the floor next to him. “They killed a lot of our Fulanis in January,” Mr. Adamu said, referring to his ethnic group. “So I knew that this time, we would take revenge.” His victims were sleeping when he arrived, he said, and he set their house on fire. Sure enough they ran out. “I killed three people,” Mr. Adamu said calmly. He and the other detainees showed no sign that they had been maltreated; some confessed to killings, and others denied them, speaking in front of the police. The police quickly arrested about 200 people in connection with the killings, and many of them were crouching anxiously in rows on a bare concrete floor, outside the police headquarters on Wednesday morning. The police have confiscated 14 machetes, 26 bows, arrows, 3 axes, 4 spears and 44 guns. Victims, many of them women and children, were cut down with knives, short and long; few survived. “Usually there are twice as many injuries as casualties,” said Ben Whitfield of the Medécins Sans Frontières team in Jos. “It’s unreal. These people were definitely caught in the middle of the night and meant to be killed.” Like others in Jos, police officials say they are hoping for peace after years of sectarian killings in the region. But they are not sure they will get it. The streets in this metropolis of several million were largely deserted Wednesday. Residents spoke of fear and anger, and some 4,300 have fled their homes. Christians, in interviews, voiced suspicion of Muslims’ intentions and associated them with the taint of terrorism. The state attorney general, Edward Pwajok, a Christian, said that Wednesday morning he had prosecuted a Nigerian Muslim man living in a Jos suburb that very day who had “acknowledged” being “a member of Al Qaeda.” Mr. Pwajok said there was no indication that the man, Samsudeen Sahsu, was connected to the killings; he said DVDs of Al Qaeda’s activities had been discovered in the man’s home. The group is not previously known to have penetrated Nigeria, though Mr. Sahsu, in a written confession provided by the attorney general, named other members of the “AlKaida Islamic Association.” He said the headquarters were in Maiduguri, where last summer a radical Islamic sect, Boko Haram, was bloodily suppressed by Nigerian security forces. “Suspicion is still rife,” the state police commissioner, Ikechukwu Aduba, said in an interview in his office in Jos. “We are appealing to the youth to sheath their swords and give peace a chance.” Mr. Aduba sharply disputed the elevated death toll put out by others, saying the police would confirm only 109 deaths. But a Nigerian Red Cross official in Jos, Adeyemo Adebayo, deputy head of disaster management, said that the number of dead was “possibly” even greater than the 332 buried in the mass grave, since many fled into the bush and could have been cut down there by their attackers. A respected Nigerian human rights group, the Civil Rights Congress, said Monday that its members had counted 492 bodies. Their attackers had come on foot from nearby villages and had made no preparations for a getaway, said Adebola Hamzat, chief superintendent of the Jos police. “Many of them were still running around,” he said, when they were picked up by the security forces. And many were carrying “cutlasses” — long lethal-looking knives that the police produced for visitors on Wednesday — still stained with blood, he said. “The person was coming towards me; I killed him with a cutlass,” said the young man next to Mr. Adamu, Zakaria Yakubu, 20, insisting that he was defending a fellow Fulani who had been shot. His victim “did not die right away,” Mr. Yakubu said. “When we got to Dogo Na Hawa, we were just looking for our cattle.” He was clutching some bread distributed by the Red Cross. Next to him, Ibrahim Harouna, also 20, would say only that he had “killed some of the peoples’ pigs,” though the police said he was also suspected of having taken part in the killings. On the streets of Jos on Wednesday, the mood was tense among Muslim traders, who complained of a sharp fall-off in business, and it was anything but forgiving among Christians. They complained that Muslims wanted to supplant “indigenes” — Christians long native to the region. “Some people want to be rulers everywhere,” said Yohanna Yatou, a businessman who said he was in the cement trade. “It’s the Muslims. They said they are born to rule.” Williams Danladi said that Muslims “believe that if they die during this war, they will go to heaven.” “We Christians, we don’t believe this.” Others expressed puzzlement and exasperation with the never-ending conflict. “This is a Christian, an indigene,” said Moussa Ismail, pointing to his friend sitting next to him on a downtown stoop, Jacob Ayuba. “We have done business for more than 20 years. How would I attack him?” |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by violent(m): 1:28am On Mar 11, 2010 |
Beasts! Nigeria will continue to be among the leading terrorist nations with pigs like this residing in it. They should be hanged and their dead bodies shot in the full glare of the public I think Islam should be condemned worldwide, it never had anything to do with Peace! |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Dede1(m): 1:45am On Mar 11, 2010 |
The Jos massacre is pale in comparison to the pogrom of 1966 and yet some morons would stroll onto this forum to mouth-off that Biafrans should have turned the other cheek It was on record that forbearers of today’s victims had hands in pogrom of 1966. This is the beginning of future events. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by JosBoy4Lif(m): 3:41am On Mar 11, 2010 |
Dede1:STFU please. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by zubeyr(m): 4:06am On Mar 11, 2010 |
I am glad I m not a Nigerian you are terrible Xians and Muslims together now I understand how narrow minded you are when you calling for bigotry and intolerance so why you guys don't get along same way you bleep each other |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by JosBoy4Lif(m): 4:10am On Mar 11, 2010 |
zubeyr: As if African Americans don't have their own problems. FYI there are more black males in Jails in the United States than there are in post-secondary education. I am glad I also am Nigerian and not African American, |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by udezue(m): 4:24am On Mar 11, 2010 |
Josboy, Naw u STFU. I see nothing wrong with Dede's comment. Don't be a coward admit that u know he is telling the truth coz it shall set u free. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Veritas09: 6:33am On Mar 11, 2010 |
Infrastructure and security. INFRASTRUCTURE AND SECURITY!!! If Nigeria had these very SIMPLE things, incidents like this could never take place and -- trust me -- no one would be talking about a break-up. Ethnic/religious clashes on this scale don't take place in nations that are stable and secure. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by koolme2008: 7:07am On Mar 11, 2010 |
This whole thing is one big brainwash on the part of the muslim folks. see this and check your "Holy Book; http://www.youtube.com/user/frosbel?feature=mhw4#p/f/40/qzBI3apkzfs |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by jimmysho(m): 9:02am On Mar 11, 2010 |
god help us all in this country of mixed multitude |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Kratos007(m): 9:32am On Mar 11, 2010 |
Dede1: udezue: ohh, for bleep's sake, shut it, ya biafran bigots. children that were born yesterday are now running around like headless chickens and talking about biafra. just let it go and let's stick to the matter at hand. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by ajalio(f): 9:35am On Mar 11, 2010 |
Veritas09: Very well spoken! |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by JosBoy4Lif(m): 9:40am On Mar 11, 2010 |
udezue:Must every ph,ucking post in politics section most be cross referenced with the BIAFRAN war? |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by asha80(m): 9:54am On Mar 11, 2010 |
The jos indegines should take heart and move forward for peace to reign in nigeria as what has happened has happened. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by Nobody: 10:25am On Mar 11, 2010 |
do you have muslim or xtain friend? why? do you trust him? why? is this crisis a religious crisis? why? I guess some blood testy guys are out there waiting for your blood so keep on killing your self. Nigeria is a sick country. i m out |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by amarilo: 12:08pm On Mar 11, 2010 |
JosBoy4Lif:The innocent blood of those children(Biafra and Jos) will not rest. Blood is not water. This is what is called repercution. Kratos007:Truth hurts. We have let go but the repercution is following those that carried out the pogrom. Unless they confess their sins such thing will always repeat itself in those regions. |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by udennaa: 6:05pm On Mar 11, 2010 |
Kratos007: @kratos007 piss off if u have nothing meaningful to say amarilo:u talk well my brother |
Re: Plateau Massacre : Police arrest 377 suspects, prosecute 162 by gowaga68: 7:23pm On Mar 11, 2010 |
igbo boy: you first help by declaring a state or country for US. violent: bros dont think but act ISLAM SHOULD BE CONDEMNED WORLD WIDE YOU CAN TRY THAT MAN SOUNDS EASY. |
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