aribisala0:


So the defence to the violence of Islam is to say Oh Christians are doing it?

You said Christianity was NOT spread by violence
That was what you said; I pointed out to you that that it is a fallacy!
Correcting a misconception is crucial to any debate

aribisala0:
Well I am not a christian I say for the Umpteenth time so do not ask me to hold the fort for Christianity?

You don't need to be; you are doing the work of Christians by perpetuating a myth

aribisala0:

Christianity has not spread to the Americas by violence. If that is true whhy did it not happen in AFrica

Christianity was spread to the Americas by violence
Google the doctrine of discovery and let us stop wasting time
Christians don't even contest it!

https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-by-era/imperial-rivalries/resources/doctrine-discovery-1493

The Bull stated that any land not inhabited by Christians was available to be “discovered,” claimed, and exploited by Christian rulers and declared that “the Catholic faith and the Christian religion be exalted and be everywhere increased and spread, that the health of souls be cared for and that barbarous nations be overthrown and brought to the faith itself.”

This “Doctrine of Discovery” became the basis of all European claims in the Americas as well as the foundation for the United States’ western expansion. In the US Supreme Court in the 1823 case Johnson v. McIntosh, Chief Justice John Marshall’s opinion in the unanimous decision held “that the principle of discovery gave European nations an absolute right to New World lands.” In essence, American Indians had only a right of occupancy, which could be abolished

aribisala0:
A large number of people in the America practise Orisha worship of gods like Ogun,Eshu,OSun and so on.

So because a large number of Yorubas worship Ogun, Sango means that Christianity is not practiced in Yoruba land?

aribisala0:
Most of your facts are just fantasy .
I have already mentioned Christian violence but the fact is there is no religion that was spread by forcethe way Islam was None ! Even here in West AFrica we have our own examples. It is in the doctrine

You mentioned Biblical violence
I am talking about violence after the Bible was compiled right till today

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/pizarro-executes-last-inca-emperor

On November 16, Atahuallpa arrived at the meeting place with an escort of several thousand men, all apparently unarmed. Pizarro sent out a priest to exhort the emperor to accept the sovereignty of Christianity and Emperor Charles V., and Atahuallpa refused, flinging a Bible handed to him to the ground in disgust. Pizarro immediately ordered an attack. Buckling under an assault by the terrifying Spanish artillery, guns, and cavalry (all of which were alien to the Incas), thousands of Incas were slaughtered, and the emperor was captured.

aribisala0:
Jews have no interest in spreading their religion.

I did not accuse jews of spreading their religion by violence

aribisala0:
So if you want to discuss Islamic violence do so on its own merit without bringing in Christianity . I am not a Christian.

Now let us stop talking about nebulous unverifiable stuff but TODAY

Oh really, I wonder when is the starting point of verifiable stuff
Very convenient given the unpalatable news

What is happening today!

aribisala0:
Islam is a religion of Boko Haram,ISIS, AlShabab AlQaeda and so on

What gave rise to ISIS
Christians were assaulting Muslims in Iraq before ISIS was born
[s]https://harpers.org/archive/2009/05/jesus-killed-mohammed/[/s]

Al Qaeda was formed in response to Russian invasion of Afghanistan
and it was supported by the Americans
The Germans saw Charles de Gaulle as a terrorist when he was sabotaging them (Germans) when his (de Gaulle's) country (France) was occupied; America called him leader of the resistance

aribisala0:
I try as much as I can to be respectful but the truth is ISlam like Christianity are two evils that have damaged black people but Islam is worse that is my view.

Sincerely, your view is flawed
Today, mainstream Muslims don't support Al Qaeda and Boko Haram and we refute them
That is why they kill our most of our articulate scholars because they can easily dismiss the objections of non-Muslims
Sheik Jafar was killed in Kano during early morning prayer even before Boko Haram erupted into prominent national consciousness because he had been refuting their murderous ideology
Anyone who kills during prayer is actually saying the other is not a Muslim

aribisala0:
Let us take the fundamental theme of Islam which is worship only one God the supreme deity? Why must that involve speaking in Arabic and not Yoruba. Why Must it involve facing Mecca to Pray .Why Must it involve mentioning Mohammed every time you pray . All of this is just to enslave the mind to Arabic culture.

One day Africans will wake up from enslavement

I am not sure that speaking Arabic, facing Meccam mentioning the name of Muhammed (SAW) are serious issues
Every religion has its own peculiarities
I have no problem with anyone worshipping Ogun, eulogising him provided he does not make human sacrifice

Christians say that Abraham built in the valley of Bakkah
Muslims say Ibrahim (AS), same person built the first house for God in Mecca
Seriously, I don't feel inferior to the Arabs
There are many literature showing how non-Arab Muslims schooled Arabs
And the Arabs acknowledged the superior knowledge of the non-Arabs
Not all the Imams leading the prayer in Mecca are Arabs

BetaThings:

Christians have started going to Jerusalem
We recognise hundreds of Prophets and we mention Mohammed (SAW), the last in our prayer
We don't ask Prophet Mohammed (SAW) for anything - we ask only Allah and that is a key issue
Where should we face for unity?
Arabic language too also promote unity
Note that the first person to transalate the Bible into English was executed; ironically his version is being popularly used as the RSV



What about whites and Asians who become Muslims
Do Arabs view them with contempt?
How many African countries did Arabs colonise?
How many African countries were colonised by people claiming to be Christians
Is there any black figure of note in Christianity?
Why do Christians segregate more according to race in America than Muslims?


You have to produce evidence sir
We need facts, then we can deal with your opinion
Watch these


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=701ev5HywZ4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ1uo5jvpe8

You don't ask Muhammad for anything is it possible for a Nuslim to pray without mentioning the word Muhammad ?

Yes or no
Most Muslism do not understand Arabic .So the unity talk is total nonsense.
There isnowhere that the Arabic of the Quran is spoken today ? It is an obsolete dialect

Even those that lear only MEMORIZ E Quranic verses they cannot ask for a glass of water in Arabic

So what unity are you talking about
I cannot answer questions obout Christian behaviour I a not one

The Quran says Allah sends a prophet to every people in their own language is that true or false,


Did Allah send anyone to Africans in their own language
Yes or No?

After the death of Muhammad his successrs embarked on the violent spread of Islam across North Africa and the Middle East as well as South East Asia by so called JIhad
This also spread to West Africa via Fulanis.

During that time Arabs engaged in the large scale trade in Black African slaves which they introduced to Europeans

The Leadersof the caliphate kept harems of sex slaves and these were supervised by castrated black African eunuchs all in the name of Islam

Diiet:
stop sinning. Christianity is not a bullshit but a way of life

We are rational here so get out of here,this is a national discussion.

Diiet:
you are wrong.

One was before the other.
One came from muhammed and the other was from jesus christ.

And you believe the bullshit story

Shiek Abdulfapeter



Politicomedian.
Muslim on Friday, pagan on Saturday, and Christian on Sunday.

Diiet:
Can a man serve two masters?


Why is fayose compromising his faith because of politics?

Why trading eternity for what will end?
I wonder what his wife,a pastor and prophetess will be thinking about this.
The man is straying and i pray God bring him back home.

And who made u a judge over him

Mrkumareze:
This man should be honoured, attending Muslim gathering is a good approach as a seating governor. Christians should not be biased here, how many of you asked questions when fayose took a traditional title recently? Was that not from another religion? Religion has done more harm recently than it's supposed . Let us be united

You are right guy,who give a damn about some foreign religion? Fayose you are confirm Yoruba by this action, how I wish my people [Igbos] can copy Afonja on this

pyyxxaro:
So when de are bending and saying tinz during prayer

What wud he be saying


I guess he wud be speaking in tongues quietly

this is to prove Christians wrong and their false faith as Jeremiah 8:8 said! religion of man

FreeTraining:

Love your enemies and those who are not of the same faith with u,,,Christ is love, without love no eyes shall see God. Daz why Christianity is different from other religions,, Christianity no 1 religion in the world,,,so blame him not

please stop speaking in the name of Christ. Your actions are the exact opposite. You curse so much. Everyone one here should check all your previous comments. It is vile and very evil. You can praise and curse with the same tongue.

dealslip:


please stop speaking in the name of Christ. Your actions are the exact opposite. You curse so much. Everyone one here should check all your previous comments. It is vile and very evil. You can praise and curse with the same tongue.

I don't curse,, i only say my mind but wen u reply me with insults,,then I teach u how to curse,

FreeTraining:

I don't curse,, i only say my mind but wen u reply me with insults,,then I teach u how to curse,

But I didn't insult you but you cursed. You have to be like Christ. Not that I believe in your curses but you can claim to represent Christ and curse people.