agaugust: south Africa is wasting its time and money to modify and upgrade a half d.ead Rooivalk helicopter gunship project. You cannot compete in international market against Russia and America. South Africans always over- rate themselves, that's why they always get disappointments and final defeat.

Try learn to walk before you run. Nigeria is very careful about jumping too fast in weapons marketing, try learn from us and build cheaper and easy to maintain weapons that can compete with China because the Chinese are selling billions of dollars weapons right under your long nose here in African market.

not even one single Rooivalk helicopter has been sold for many years and NOBODY will buy this bad market product you are boasting about. Rooivalk is more likely to become d.ead than alive.

Go market it in your south African village. Your Rooivalk is a big international failure and all the noise you make here cannot sell it. Put half of it in storage like your money wasting Grippen jets.

agaugust: Awesome new air power of great Nigeria Giant Of Africa

Henry120: I do have to agree with my compatriot agaugust. Why has the south african rooivalk failed so much. Apart from south africa and maybe zimbabwe, I do not know of any other country in africa that use the rooivalk or even the lynx for that matter.

An intelligence officer here in nigeria once told me that the south african helos do not have good nor dependable technology.

Your MRAPs are very popular, uganda, kenya, burundi have lots of them. Same cannot be said of your helos. South africa is the only country that flies them.

Please do not compare the MI-35p or MI-24V to the rooivalk, it's an insult to the russians. The MI's are battle tested and proven helos, more than 60% of the countries in the world fly them. It shows how good those birds are.

agaugust: .


[size=14pt]............................Enter The Leopard..............................[/size]

New Air Power Nigerian Air force purchases 24 Flying Leopard II modern heavy Jet Fighter-Bombers from China

the great giant of africa is soon to become the only african country with super modern heavy jet fighter-bombers
100 nigerian pilots are listed for training to fly the heavy jets and a technical maintenace team of our engineers are training too.


24 units of all weather deep penetration/strike and anti-ship fighter bombers purchased confirmed along with 10 units of L-15 light attack/trainer jets too.

Extra 24 units of the flying leopard II heavy jet fighter bombers is on the option plans for the future to make total of 48 Leopard Jets.

FBC-1A Flying Leopard II

Engine : Two powerful Rolls Royce British engine licenced built in China with chinese name

Weapons :

Guns: one 23mm double-barrel GSh-23L automatic cannon, 300 rounds

Hardpoints : 9 total with capacity for 20,000 lb weapons

Rockets: 57mm/90mm rocket pods

Missiles:

Air-to-air missiles types PL-5, PL-8, PL-9.
Anti-ship missiles, Yingji-8K, Yingji-82K, Kongdi-88
Anti-radiation missiles, Yingji-91

Bombs:

Laser-guided bombs
Free-fall bombs


It is a modern year 2004 year aircraft in the first version with two British Rolls Royce Engines, further advanced with export version of Nigeria's type having latest year 2011 modern electronics, multi-function radars, targeting pods, heads up display, multiple target tracking, jamming electronics and counter-measures, long range 175km BRV enemy detection, helmet mounted target acquisition sights, multi-purpose BVR for both ground and air enemy targets, special computer separately dedicated for self defence system, and many more.

Payload: 20,000 pounds of various types of mixed weapons

Maximum speed: 1,800 km/h
Combat range: 1,800 km
Ferry range: 3,700 km

it is also an anti-shiping bomber with cruise missiles to d.estroy and sink all south african navy valour frigates with new israeli made coastal defense sea drones confirming the enemy warships geographical co-ordainates in case the south african navy attempts a careless naval blockade of our waters.

Flying Leopard II has enough long range with drop tanks to fly from calabar nigeria to B0MB pretoria capital of south africa.

photos of the nigerian air force new K.iller weapon below.

pleep: Do you guys know what kind of heavy bombers (like the b52) the Nigerian a/o south African militaries have?

Do we have any?

Capnd143: I beg to disagree with a few point of yours. The rooivalk is a good helicopter, though nt to international taste! The SA guys overate the weapons, thats an established fact, the tried marketing their goods in the international arena when the didnt try getting the african market first [ especialy nigera and ethiopia as at then] bt the chose to play white guys, and the got isolated.

agaugust: .


[size=14pt]............................Enter The Leopard..............................[/size]

New Air Power Nigerian Air force purchases 24 Flying Leopard II modern heavy Jet Fighter-Bombers from China

the great giant of africa is soon to become the only african country with super modern heavy jet fighter-bombers
100 nigerian pilots are listed for training to fly the heavy jets and a technical maintenace team of our engineers are training too.


24 units of all weather deep penetration/strike and anti-ship fighter bombers purchased confirmed along with 10 units of L-15 light attack/trainer jets too.

Extra 24 units of the flying leopard II heavy jet fighter bombers is on the option plans for the future to make total of 48 Leopard Jets.

FBC-1A Flying Leopard II

Engine : Two powerful Rolls Royce British engine licenced built in China with chinese name

Weapons :

Guns: one 23mm double-barrel GSh-23L automatic cannon, 300 rounds

Hardpoints : 9 total with capacity for 20,000 lb weapons

Rockets: 57mm/90mm rocket pods

Missiles:

Air-to-air missiles types PL-5, PL-8, PL-9.
Anti-ship missiles, Yingji-8K, Yingji-82K, Kongdi-88
Anti-radiation missiles, Yingji-91

Bombs:

Laser-guided bombs
Free-fall bombs


It is a modern year 2004 year aircraft in the first version with two British Rolls Royce Engines, further advanced with export version of Nigeria's type having latest year 2011 modern electronics, multi-function radars, targeting pods, heads up display, multiple target tracking, jamming electronics and counter-measures, long range 175km BRV enemy detection, helmet mounted target acquisition sights, multi-purpose BVR for both ground and air enemy targets, special computer separately dedicated for self defence system, and many more.

Payload: 20,000 pounds of various types of mixed weapons

Maximum speed: 1,800 km/h
Combat range: 1,800 km
Ferry range: 3,700 km

it is also an anti-shiping bomber with cruise missiles to d.estroy and sink all south african navy valour frigates with new israeli made coastal defense sea drones confirming the enemy warships geographical co-ordainates in case the south african navy attempts a careless naval blockade of our waters.

Flying Leopard II has enough long range with drop tanks to fly from calabar nigeria to B0MB pretoria capital of south africa.

photos of the nigerian air force new K.iller weapon below.

agaugust:

F00LISH snydergp do simple mathematics when you google the shortest air distance along a great circle longitude from calabar airport to pretoria, and add 5 drop tanks extra fuel for the leopard with 4 more hardpoints for 2 air to air missiles and 2 bombs 1,000 lb. the nigerian flying leopard is coming and you are not safe, go hide your wife and children in the a cave hole you F00L.

snydergp:

Egypt is not as strong and cannot function without the $2bn they receive from US every year just to keep them as a satellite US puppet in North africa and as a buffer between Israel and Arab states in the region. More then half of Egyptian all those tanks, helicopters and planes aren't even serviceable and is its old obsolete systems anyway.

Did your global fire power tell you that Ethiopia got there *asses kicked by there poorer cuzins Eritrea twice in the last 30 years. Did your global fire power tell you that Ethiopia doesn't have a navy and that SA and Nigeria's military budgets are 3 times larger.

Now if you don't mind please go to the sexuality section *Kails*

agaugust:

F00LISH snydergp do simple mathematics when you google the shortest air distance along a great circle longitude from calabar airport to pretoria, and add 5 drop tanks extra fuel for the leopard with 4 more hardpoints for 2 air to air missiles and 2 bombs 1,000 lb.

new nigerian airforce flying leopards are coming to your city and y.ou are not safe, go hide your wife and children in a cave hole you F00L.

hiuser: Forensic science detectives/researchers..after the dead body even in a foreign nation we find our inheritance..that is all. When you don't ever we hear it..are you a forerunner?

MsDarkSkin:


EH you do have a point there.



as a matter of a fact i think i'll stay here.



lmao. na wa o.

agaugust:


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new Nigerian Airforce 24 brand new d.eadly long-range jet fighter-bombers....the Flying Leopard showing off her d.eadly cargo under her belly

snydergp: Since there's been a lot of nonsense talk about the ROOIVALK and its systems versus other helicopters I will now give the specs of 4 AH-attack helicopters and so the public can judge. I left the Mi-24/35p out because its not in the class of the others. This will include the A129-Mangusta which Turkey chose over the Rooivalk due to politics.

MI-28
-Crew, 1 pilot
-Length, 17,01m (55ft)
-Max take of weight, 11,500kg(23,590lb)
-Max speed, 320km/h (172knots, 199mph)
-Cruise Speed, 270km/h (145nmi,168mph)
-Range, 435km (234nmi, 270mi)
-Combat radius, 200km (108nmi, 124mi)
-Ferry range, 1,100km (593nmi, 683mi)
-Rate of climb, 13,6m/s (2,677ft/min)
-Combat (depends on mission statement)


AH-APACHE(long-bow)
-Crew, 2 (pilot and gunner)
-Length, 58,17ft (17,73m)
-Max take of weight, 10,433kg (23,000lb)
-Max speed, 293km/h (158knots, 165mph)
-Cruise speed, 265km/h (143nmi, 165mph)
-Range, 476km (257nmi, 295mi)with long bow radar mast
-Combat radius, 480km (260nmi, 300mi)
-Ferry range, 1,900km(1,024nmi, 1180mi)with external fuel
-Rate of climb, 12,7m/s (2500ft/min)


ROOIVALK
-Crew, 2 (pilot and gunner)
-Length, 18,73m (61ft)
-Max take of weight, 8750kg (19,290lb)
-Max speed, 309 (167knots, 193mph)
-Cruise speed, 278km/h (150nmi, 173mph)
-Ferry range, 1335km (720nmi, 829mi)
-Range, 740km (386nmi, 437mi)
-Combat radius, 700km (346nmi, 407mi)
-Rate if climb, 13,3m/s (2,620ft/min)


Agusta A129 Mangusta
-Crew, 2 (pilot and gunner)
-Length, 12,28 (40ft)
-Max weight, 4600kg (10,140lb)
-Max speed, 278km/h (148knots, 170mph)
-Cruise speed, 229km (135nmi, 155mph)
-Range, 510km (275nmi, 320mi)
-Combat radius, (same as range)
-Ferry range, 1000km (546nmi, 620mi)
-Rate of climb, 10,2m/s (2,025ft/min)


Overall Ratings

-Max speed: Mi-28 is faster (320km/

-Cruise speed: ROOIVALK is faster (278km/h)

-Range: ROOIVALK is by far better(740km)

-Combat radius: ROOIVALK is by far better (700km)

-Ferry range: APACHE is by far better (1,900km)

-Rate of climb: Mi-28 and ROOIVALK are equal (13,6m/s-2,677ft/min) and (13,3m/s-2,620ft/min)

-Max take of weight: Mi-28 is better (11,500kg-23,590lb)

Source wikipedia.org

Overall on points the Rooivalk and Mi-28 are far better machines. Now you work out why Turkey chose the Agusta A129 Mangusta and not the Rooivalk was it because of avionics or NATO/EU political reasons.

I hope this settles the issue.

andrewza:


Why no werwolf or euro tiger.


And the apachy has one very strong point. The longbow radar.

agaugust: please stop wasting our time here with south African Rooivalk helicopter that no country wants to buy and it has never been battle tested.

South Africa made strategic business mistake by producing a helicopter with no market to sell it, and more photos of it were made than number of real life physical production of the Rooivalk.

Next time learn to walk before you run.

Please do us favour here and stop wasting our time on a half d.ead south African helicopter project.

Thanks

agaugust: please stop wasting our time here with south African Rooivalk helicopter that no country wants to buy and it has never been battle tested.

South Africa made strategic business mistake by producing a helicopter with no market to sell it, and more photos of it were made than number of real life physical production of the Rooivalk.

Next time learn to walk before you run.

Please do us favour here and stop wasting our time on a half d.ead south African helicopter project.

Thanks

andrewza:


You showing your level of ignorince.

The rooifalk was devloped during the border war. And incoperats many of the lesones learned from the fighting there.

The rooifalk was never ment to be a export item. It was built because SA was under sactions and unable to buy any thing.


Learn to think before speaking(typing)

It far from dead. The rooifalk have just been upgraded.

pleep: 100% lies. You don't spend 1$ billion dollars on a military project that is not for export...that is the only way these military companies are able to recoup their losses from production.

The rooivalk is the biggest military flop in African history.

1. You spend 7 billion rand to develop a helicopter design and only end up building 12. (none of which are fully operational)

2. have not managed to export a single one

3. It took yall almost a decade to create, by the time it was finished the technology was already obsolete

4. It uses 20 year old computers

5. There is no support system...(many of the support manufacturers are invested in competitors.)

6. It cost $40 million each unit. More than a brand new Apachi!


FAIL.

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/what-went-wrong-with-the-rooivalk-2007-06-08-1

pleep: 100% lies. You don't spend 1$ billion dollars on a military project that is not for export...that is the only way these military companies are able to recoup their losses from production.

The rooivalk is the biggest military flop in African history.

1. You spend 7 billion rand to develop a helicopter design and only end up building 12. (none of which are fully operational)

2. have not managed to export a single one

3. It took yall almost a decade to create, by the time it was finished the technology was already obsolete

4. It uses 20 year old computers

5. There is no support system...(many of the support manufacturers are invested in competitors.)

6. It cost $40 million each unit. More than a brand new Apachi!


FAIL.

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/what-went-wrong-with-the-rooivalk-2007-06-08-1

pleep: But ill admit that you guys are light-years ahead of Nigeria when it comes to actual hardware development and military infrastructure.

.... The Nigerian military is just a straw stabbed in the back of the country sucking money for Europe and Asia. Agaugust & Co' we havent created anything so we really have nothing to be proud of here... the Nigerian military is a joke.

pleep: But ill admit that you guys are light-years ahead of Nigeria when it comes to actual hardware development and military infrastructure.

.... The Nigerian military is just a straw stabbed in the back of the country sucking money for Europe and Asia. Agaugust & Co' we havent created anything so we really have nothing to be proud of here... the Nigerian military is a joke.

agaugust:

you are wrong. Nigeria manufactures weapons from machine guns to mortars to night vision equipment to bullet proof vests to armoured personnel carriers to unmanned air drones, and all productions are increasing every day, also we will soon manufacture heavy artilery.

Many years ago Nigeria produced the air beetle aircraft we stopped due to government lack of support from the military politicians of those past years. Try spend time to see their posts and photos from pages 15 to 95 page of this thread topic, you missed the action those days. Air beetle aircraft was not posted but I can do that tomorrow, its a Nigerian light aircraft air force trainer produced some years ago