souldust: to win it, you need have pursued peace in conflicts the west has keen interest in. Otherwise, tell me what Obama did for peace to have merited the one given to him.

Achebe whose litrary works are held in more regard than wole soyinka, wasnt awarded the nobel price. But soyinka was awarded one.

The truth is, the west still play a role in awarding nobel prizes

I think maybe is due to fact that he managed to subside tension that middle east countries had against the US. Many Islamic countries were in a bitter conflict with America during the tenure of George Bush in office and after Obama succeeded him, everything started to change to better.

i've not been to SA before so i cant tell what infrastructure you have there, but i have friends who have been there and they say you have better infrastructure. But here is the old lagos pre 2007.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ot1JtsOtDqA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dot1JtsOtDqA.

Msauza:

I think maybe is due to fact that he managed to subside tension that middle east countries had with the US. Many Islamic countries were in a bitter conflict with America during the tenure of George Bush in office and after Obama succeeded him, everything started to change to better.

He did not deserv the win either way.

Msauza:

I think maybe is due to fact that he managed to subside tension that middle east countries had with the US. Many Islamic countries were in a bitter conflict with America during the tenure of George Bush in office and after Obama succeeded him, everything started to change to better.

the drones in pakistan have not stoped, guantanamo bay is still there, troops are still in afghanistan. Truth is, he doesnt deserve it.

souldust: the drones in pakistan have not stoped, guantanamo bay is still there, troops are still in afghanistan. Truth is, he doesnt deserve it.

I agree Obama haven't really done much to change the perceptions about america and there double standards with regards to there foreign policy.

We all know that america's foreign policy is not driven by Obama bt by Congress and the Elites who are mostly Jewish and who will go to great lengths to protect its baby colony Israel which is responsible for 60% of today's current islamist problem.

As long as that worthless noble price aren't feeding anybody or stop needless civil wars around the world I practically don't give a sh*t u receives it but I would also love to receive one for my gallant literal contribution to this thread

Let me educate you ignoramuses. Technology this, technology that. What technology are you talking about? There is nothing we want in Nigeria that Nigerians can't build here. We just don't have any intentions of striking any country. But let me reiterate, that no miltary in this world can invade Nigeria, and tell the story with happiness. To the fella that said Nigeria don't have the capability to launch intercontinental missles, my advice to you is to wake the mess up. The only thing that can weaken Nigeria is an IN-FIGHTING situation. The west, asians and the arabs are sponsoring most of this. THEY HAVE FAILED!!

White South African farmers are now being courted by the north, by countries who believe their agricultural expertise can kickstart an agrarian revolution across the continent. They are being offered millions of hectares of allegedly virgin rainforest and bush, as well as land already farmed by smallholders or used as pastures by herders.

In the biggest deal to date, Congo-Brazzaville has offered South Africa farmers long leases on up to 10m hectares of land, an area that includes abandoned state farms and bush in the remote south-west of the country. The first contracts, which put 88,000 hectares in the hands of 70 farmers, were signed at a ceremony in the country last month.

Meanwhile, in Mozambique, some 800 South African farmers have acquired a million hectares in the southern province of Gaza, thanks to an arrangement set up by sugar farmer Charl Senekal, an associate of the South African president, Jacob Zuma.

Zambia wants South African pioneers to grow maize, and Sudan is offering land and irrigation water to grow sugar cane. Another deal, currently on hold, would see them take over 35,000 hectares of Libya.

Many African countries believe the new white farmers can end their reliance on food imports. But the farmers and their financiers often have other plans. According to Theo de Jager, Agri SA deputy president and mastermind of the international deals, the farmers in Congo-Brazzaville want to grow more profitable tropical fruit for export to European supermarkets, rather than grains for locals.

IN NIGERIA:
The Nigerian state Kwara is offering commercial farmers from Zimbabwe and South Africa, mostly of British origin, land to invest and resettle. A delegation from South Africa invited by Kwara state currently is investigating the offer.

Kwara's new Governor Bukola Saraki two weeks ago told Nigerian reporters his state government had entered into "negotiations with the British government" over the more than 2000 farmers of British origin "displaced by the Zimbabwean government."

The main purpose was to "bring in foreign investors" to Kwara state, according to Mr Saraki. In a later statement, the Governor added that "the state stands to benefit from the huge resources, international finance and high tech equipment available to the displaced farmers."

An official delegation of five white South African farmers, who also represent their Zimbabwean colleagues, yesterday arrived in Kwara's capital, Ilorin, to meet with Governor Saraki and to get a first-hand impression of the state. They are to stay one week at state expenses.

Zimbabwe's predominantly white commercial farmers have proven a popular export product since the Robert Mugabe government started expropriating their farms. In addition to the present Nigerian offensive, also several neighbouring countries - including Mozambique - have offered lucrative conditions to attract the skilled and capitalised farmers.

Kwaru state Information Commissioner Malam Abdul Rahim Adedoyin said the farmers were to hold talks with several "senior government officials" and inspect potential farming sites in three districts of the state. State organs were instructed to welcome the potential investors in the best possible way.

The Kwara government further has indicated it considers handing out land for free to interested Zimbabwean and South African commercial farmers. The relatively densely populated region was said to have large tracts of unexploited but fertile lands. In Kwara, however, the question has been raised, whose land Governor Saraki will be giving away, as many farmers in the state hunger for more land.

According to the Kwara Governor, however, giving under-exploited land resources to experienced commercial farmers - willing to invest in new technology and infrastructure and create jobs and new markets - could only be to the benefit of all parties.

Governor Saraki only came to power during the elections earlier this year, sweeping out long-ruling Governor Mohammed Lawal. Mr Saraki has promised to put an end to corruption and to encourage economic development of the poor state. The cornerstones of his administration are defined as being agriculture, education and water supply.

Agriculture remains the main industry of Kwara state. The principal cash crops in the state are cotton, cocoa, coffee, kolanut and tobacco. Climatic conditions are somewhat more tropical and moist than those Zimbabweans and South Africans are familiar to.

Kwara State is located at Nigeria's cultural boundary between the predominantly Muslim north and the mainly Christian south. The state, which was created in 1967, lies in the geographical south-west of Nigeria, bordering to Benin. It has an estimated population of more than 1.5 million made up of four main ethnic groups - Yoruba, Nupe, Fulani and Baruba.

HATERS OF WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN EXPERTISE WHAT UR YOUR COMMENTS

Dibiachukwu: Let me educate you ignoramuses. Technology this, technology that. What technology are you talking about? There is nothing we want in Nigeria that Nigerians can't build here. We just don't have any intentions of striking any country. But let me reiterate, that no miltary in this world can invade Nigeria, and tell the story with happiness. To the fella that said Nigeria don't have the capability to launch intercontinental missles, my advice to you is to wake the mess up. The only thing that can weaken Nigeria is an IN-FIGHTING situation. The west, asians and the arabs are sponsoring most of this. THEY HAVE FAILED!!

A few points.


You can not just throw money and get modern wepaons and sytems. It takes time.

You say Nigeria is not intrested in attacking other countries yet you have been involved in a number of wars. So the facts don't match the statment.

Nigeria has no long rang missiel program or any real long range stragic wepaons of any kind.

Have they failed. The internal fighting is not yet over.

Dibiachukwu: Let me educate you ignoramuses. Technology this, technology that. What technology are you talking about? There is nothing we want in Nigeria that Nigerians can't build here. We just don't have any intentions of striking any country. But let me reiterate, that no miltary in this world can invade Nigeria, and tell the story with happiness. To the fella that said Nigeria don't have the capability to launch intercontinental missles, my advice to you is to wake the mess up. The only thing that can weaken Nigeria is an IN-FIGHTING situation. The west, asians and the arabs are sponsoring most of this. THEY HAVE FAILED!!

South Africa has the capability to cripple ur economy.


Simple and plain u cannot built high tech engines and airframes because u don't have the technological expertise and military budget to do so, and u lack the industrial base which takes years to establish including ur lack of adequate electricity supply to make such high tech advancements possible FACT.

Ur NAF jets like ur Alpha Jets went to Germany recently for upgrades because u don't have the expertise to, upgrade the systems. While South Africa uses its own homemade weapons systems, EW suits and radar systems on its:
-Valour Class Warships
-Submarines
-Grippen Jets
-Hawk Jet trainers
-MRAP's,
-Radar's
-Optronic look and fire helmets
-africa's only homemade helicopter gunship THE ROOIVALK

All of these are fitted with domestic manufactured missiles which even NATO, BRAZIL,MALAYSIA, SWEDEN, ALGERIA and FINLAND uses as part of there arsenal, and please go research this because its a FACT.

The day Nigeria has the technological expertise to built the world's best long range artillery weapons system like the G6-52(RHINO) including its own gunships like the ROOIVALK and anti-aircraft and anti-ballistic missile defense systems like SA does then ONLY CAN U COME AND SPEW THAT GARBAGE.

U ARE WAY OUT OF UR LEAGUE NOW RUN AND GO BACK TO THE SEXUALITY SECTION

ITS NOT ME WHO SAYS THE FOLLOWING BUT MILITARY COMMANDERS

The Commander of the Brazilian Navy has confirmed that his service is interested in cooperating with South Africa in missile development. “We are beginning to discuss with Denel some joint missile development projects,” stated Fleet Admiral Julio Soares de Moura Neto in Cape Town, where he was attending the recent Indian Ocean Naval Symposium (IONS). “Nothing has been signed yet. It would involve the joint development of surface-to-air missiles.”

Denel is South Africa’s State-owned defence industrial group, and its business responsible for missiles (and unmanned air vehicles) is Denel Dynamics, based in Centurion, just south of Pretoria. The only naval surface-to-air missile currently produced by the company is the Umkhonto (which translates into English as spear). This uses infrared guidance and is already in service with the South African and Finnish navies.

But Denel Dynamics has a project to develop a longer-ranged, radar-guided version of the missile, referred to as the Umkhonto-R. The Brazilian Navy has long been known to be interested in this programme.
Such a joint programme would not be the Brazilian Navy’s only missile project. “We have a national project for a surface-to-surface missile (SSM),” reported Moura Neto. “It is under development by the Brazilian Navy and Brazilian defence companies, including Mectron and Avibras. It’s running well. We hope the prototype missile will be ready in 2016.”

Currently designated simply as the Anti-Ship Missile, the weapon is intended to be launched from surface ships against other surface ships. It will be a medium-ranged SSM, in the same general category of the MM40 version of the famous French SSM, the Exocet. The MM40 Exocet is currently operated by the Brazilian Navy and the new national SSM could eventually replace it. [But] it’s a long-term journey,” he pointed out. “A missile is a very expensive weapon [to develop].”

South African defence systems are also under consideration by the Chilean Navy as an option for the modernisation of its frigate force. “South Africa is one of the countries the Chilean Navy is looking at [in its search] for cost-effective solutions,” said Vice Admiral Kenneth Pugh, the commander-in-chief of the Chilean Navy’s First Naval Zone. (He was also attending the IONS.) “We’re interested in South Africa. It’s solid, reliable and robust.”

The Chilean Navy’s frigate force is made up of second-hand British and Dutch ships, which must, in the coming years, go through very major refits known as midlife updates. “We are looking for systems we can integrate on our platforms [ships]”, he explained. “We look for open systems, which can be integrated with our other systems, in Chile.” The Chilean Navy has its own shipyard, Asmar, which, in turn, has its own systems integration capability. “This is proving much more cost effective. It works for us. We’ve been doing this since the mid-1980s.”

Should South African systems fulfil Chile’s requirements, “they could be options for the upgrade of our ships”, he pointed out. “Weapon systems should be mature enough to be bought. Sometimes it’s not good to be the first user. You must have something working in the navy of the country that developed it, proving that the system is working. A prototype is not good enough.”

He highlighted that the Chilean navy was always investigating options for replacing ageing systems and that the procurement process for new systems is a long one, typically taking ten years. For example, Chile’s ex-British frigates are equipped with the Seawolf surface-to-air missile system, which is now ageing – the UK Royal Navy plans to take it out of service within the next five or so years and its replacement, called the Sea Ceptor, is in an advanced stage of development. “South Africa has very good missiles, especially anti-aircraft missiles,” affirmed Pugh. “The companies you have here are very good.” •

Admiral Moura Neto and Vice Admiral Pugh attended the IONS as observers, while Keith Campbell was a guest of the South African Navy.

COME NAIJA BOYS PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF WHAT YOU ARE INTENDING TO DO:

South African missile and unmanned air vehicle (UAV) company Denel Dynamics, part of the State-owned Denel defence industrial group, is pondering a tactical unmanned helicopter project. The South African Navy (SAN) is known to be interested in such an aircraft, more formally known as a rotary wing UAV.

It should be noted that rotary wing UAVs are more complex and difficult to develop than fixed wing UAVs in the same size categories. Denel Dynamics and the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research have both already developed small helicopter UAVs, but these have been little more than upscaled remotely controlled model helicopters, far smaller and far less sophisticated than the kind of tactical UAV the SAN would require and Denel Dynamics is now thinking of.

The intent would be to provide a UAV that could be operated from a wide range of naval vessels, and not just aircraft and/or helicopter carriers, as well as specialised civilian vessels such as research ships and even modified merchant vessels (traversing pirate-infested waters, for example). Initially, such a rotary wing UAV would be employed mainly for surveillance, although an armed version is conceivable in the longer run. It would complement crewed helicopters, not replace them. However, being smaller than a conven- tional helicopter, it could potentially be operated from vessels that would be too small to operate normal helicopters. As a surveillance platform, a rotary wing UAV would be able to support a wide variety of maritime missions, from search and rescue and peacetime constabulary duties such as fisheries protection, environmental regu- lation enforcement and antismuggling operations through quasi-defence missions like antipiracy to peacekeeping and, ultimately, war operations.

Worldwide, the most advanced known projects for tactically sized rotary wing UAVs are in the US. One of these, the Northrop Grumman MQ-8B Fire Scout, based on the airframe and engine of a Schweizer light helicopter – reportedly the Schweizer 333 four seat turbine-powered aircraft – is now in limited operational service with the US Navy (one was lost on operations over Libya last month). A Fire Scout can stay on station, 110 nautical miles from its parent ship, for more than five hours and can lift a payload of more than 250 kg.

Another major American project is the Boeing A160 Hummingbird, which is being developed under a contract from the US Defence Advanced Research Project gency.

A third is the Kaman/Lockheed Martin K-Max project to develop an unmanned cargo-carrying helicopter for logistic resupply missions to frontline troops. The K-Max helicopter UAV is capable of lifting more than 2.7 t of cargo.

Note that, although both Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin are huge aerospace companies with enormous experience and expertise in many fields, both (unlike Boeing) have not been involved in the helicopter sector and both have aligned themselves with much smaller, but experienced, helicopter companies for these rotary wing UAV projects.

FOR NAIJA TO REACH SUCH A HIGHEST POINT OF ADVANCEMENT....WOULD BE THROUGH GOD INTERVENTION!!!

This is still a silly thread...

Dibiachukwu: Let me educate you ignoramuses. Technology this, technology that. What technology are you talking about? There is nothing we want in Nigeria that Nigerians can't build here. We just don't have any intentions of striking any country. But let me reiterate, that no miltary in this world can invade Nigeria, and tell the story with happiness. To the fella that said Nigeria don't have the capability to launch intercontinental missles, my advice to you is to wake the mess up. The only thing that can weaken Nigeria is an IN-FIGHTING situation. The west, asians and the arabs are sponsoring most of this. THEY HAVE FAILED!!

LOL , Are you serious with this post? What world are you living in, Ace?

hey, south african guys, i am coming back soon to take you down. i am busy at work and after work, i have not been able to sit down and write a reply to all the nonsense comments that some of you south africans are posting here about nigeria. also, for newcomers posting comments now and who want to compare south african military vs nigerian military, please dont take us backward, we have seriously discussed that topic from pages 1 to 45 of this topic/thread, please go back and read and see photos and weblinks, especially pages 12 to 39 to save you time. nigerian military capability has been displayed on this topic/thread especially from pages 12 to 39, and nigerian military is not a weak force. dont take us backward, time wasting is not a good sport or game.

snydergp i will reply you about the drones UAV, when i have less pressure of work in the office, for now time is tight, lets see if i can get some free time after wok tonight

@agaugust

Not being rude just poiting it out. What that white lanayard on the second from the back. Seems out of place and would give him a away if he tried to hide. But since it is a photo op pic and not a real operation pic I can't say much on it. Other than it caught my eye.


All so there not much you can say about our 2 diffrent drone programes. SA is a long time drone user with several being used in Anit pouching patrols right now. We have a very mature drone program. Nigeria has a young drone program and are more in the testing phase than full production (each one of your drones is difrent in some way) and we in a difrent level.

@snydergp. You have no capacity to cripple any one's economy. I have talked about this before and pls dont take us back.

By 'cripling our economy' i know you mean a blockade. But a blockade of nigeria's waters isnt possible by the SA navy. Fact!

You think those few ships and subs you have can effectively wount a blockade on 800km of costal line and some NMs int o the sea? We have discussed this before and pls go back to previous pages if you want to see them again.

souldust: @snydergp. You have no capacity to cripple any one's economy. I have talked about this before and pls dont take us back.

By 'cripling our economy' i know you mean a blockade. But a blockade of nigeria's waters isnt possible by the SA navy. Fact!

You think those few ships and subs you have can effectively wount a blockade on 800km of costal line and some NMs int o the sea? We have discussed this before and pls go back to previous pages if you want to see them again.

Has mentioned we don't need to cover the entire coast line. Only a few ports are of any value to the econmy.

@snyder, i dont know why you make some statements. I dont know if its pure ignorance or just becos you want to hit other people.

ABU Zaria produces its own electricity and they also give to other comunities around them. So if a university can build its own dam and provide 24hrs power supply for itself and its environs, how much more will the FG do for DICON if there is a need to build what ever they want to do.

As for wether we have the engrs or not, were you the one who built the war ship for us? Or are you the one who is currently involved in building other ships that will be 70 percent built here in nigeria? And who says we are not currently trying to put ourselves in the air?

We do not have power but we are set to overtake you as the largest economy. Thats a challenge to you!

@thiza, the agriculture revolution here in nigeria is spear headed by nigerians themselves.you did not talk about the big farms in taraba state as well as in other states. These farms are owned by nigerians themselves. Non of your farmers is as OBJ

andrewza:

Has mentioned we don't need to cover the entire coast line. Only a few ports are of any value to the econmy.

and you think the NN will not use the other beaches to push you away? You really think we are daft in this conutry? Who told you you can reach our shore? You think the FG will allow that?

souldust: and you think the NN will not use the other beaches to push you away? You really think we are daft in this conutry? Who told you you can reach our shore? You think the FG will allow that?

We don't need to reach the shore. Just stop merchant trafic. And they can only use certain ports.

andrewza:

We don't need to reach the shore. Just stop merchant trafic. And they can only use certain ports.

you think we cannot meet you in the high sea? And you think other countries in the gulf of guinea will not try to push you out too?

souldust: you think we cannot meet you in the high sea? And you think other countries in the gulf of guinea will not try to push you out too?

Yes that what I am saying. Not saying it it would be a push over but SAN could take on every west coast navy in a high sea battel. In a close in inshore battel NN holds the edge but at the high seas we hold the cars.

andrewza:

Yes that what I am saying. Not saying it it would be a push over but SAN could take on every west coast navy in a high sea battel. In a close in inshore battel NN holds the edge but at the high seas we hold the cars.

no harm meant, but i wander what is going on in your SA brain, so you honestly think NN will give you a sweet welcome? And the ecowas will jubilate with you, after blocking a main ecowas linked commercial route? Well, i pray that day doesnt come, because surely the south afriques would have tested the wrath of the youths of the most populous black nation . . .

Capnd143: no harm meant, but i wander what is going on in your SA brain, so you honestly think NN will give you a sweet welcome? And the ecowas will jubilate with you, after blocking a main ecowas linked commercial route? Well, i pray that day doesnt come, because surely the south afriques would have tested the wrath of the youths of the most populous black nation . . .

What this mob going to do. March down south. In a straight out naval battel in the high seas no sub shara african navy could beat SAN.

andrewza:


What this mob going to do. March down south. In a straight out naval battel in the high seas no sub shara african navy could beat SAN.

well i laud your patriotism! But my freind, in times of war in a country like nigeria, anything and everything is possible! The revenue we make from oil per year, in case of a possible war treat, is enough to fund acquisition of anti-subs and anti-ships armament!

andrewza:


What this mob going to do. March down south. In a straight out naval battel in the high seas no sub shara african navy could beat SAN.

I admire your confidence in SAN, but action speaks louder

Capnd143: well i laud your patriotism! But my freind, in times of war in a country like nigeria, anything and everything is possible! The revenue we make from oil per year, in case of a possible war treat, is enough to fund acquisition of anti-subs and anti-ships armament!

That the point of a blokade. No trade no cash. No cash no way to fight a war. Any case countries never sell to you when if we had to go to war. We have better relashinships with the major arms supllyers. So unless you can build it your self I doubt you will get any thing.

sheyie2007:
I admire your confidence in SAN, but action speaks louder

I am to board to repost the same things. They some where in this thread. Basicaly

We outwited a NATO task force with one sub in war games.
We train with major navel forces from all over the world has equale.
We have the best ships and sytems of any african navy.

EXCLUSIVE:

Hardship hits Nigerian troops in Mali as officers solicit food from locals
Nicholas Ibekwe - 20 hours agoNATIONAL, NEWS

Nigeria is expected to send 1,200 soldiers to Mali.
The condition of Nigerian troops in Mali is quickly sliding from bad to worse as inadequate supply of provision is forcing the contingent to solicit food from locals, PREMIUM TIMES can exclusively report.
According to a reliable defence source who asked not to be named, the Nigerian contingent solicits food and handouts under the guise of “courtesy calls” to community leaders in Mali.
After one of such courtesy calls on Monday, the troops received a handout of a cow and 50 bags of rice from the Prefect of Tuban in Banamba region.
“Our officers and men have resorted to begging locals for cows and rice for survival,” said the official.
“This is done by way of courtesy calls. They invite the prefects of the locals to our camp for visits. The prefect of Tuban (Banamba Region) visited today (Feb 11) with a cow and 50 bags of rice.”
Last week, PREMIUM TIMES exclusively reported that the initial 162-soldier contingent is suffering severe food shortage and a dip in morale as troops were forced to skip meals.
Our defence insiders said there has been no improvement in the provision of food.
However, the Director for Defence Information, Mohammed Yerima, a Brigadier General in the Army, told our reporter over the telephone that any insinuation of food shortage is not true.
“We have provided the contingent with enough food and fund to last them for the initial three months. Is Nigeria not bigger than that?” he said.
Still in Bamako
Contrary to information from the Ministry of Defence that Nigerian troops are involved in combat and have advanced northward toward the city of Gao, military insiders said the Nigerian contingent is still stationed at the Force Headquarters in Bamako.
We learnt that shortage in armaments has prevented the deployment of soldiers to combat positions. And many soldiers are yet to be paid their monthly sustenance allowance.
Sending troops in piecemeal
As of Monday, there were 210 soldiers in Mali with 70 more billed to join them on Tuesday.
President Goodluck Jonathan promised to deploy 1,200 soldiers as part of Africa-led International Support Mission to Mali (AFISMA) but is having great difficulty meeting up with that number.
Mr. Yerima said the figure we cited is incorrect. But our sources dismissed the denials, saying Mr. Yerima’s job is to make the Nigerian military look good.
“We have over 500 troops in Mali and Niamey (Niger Republic),” he said.
Since we are not reporting on Niger, we had expected him to tell us how many soldiers Nigeria has on ground in Mali.
The Boko Haram insurgency, Niger Delta unrest, and the country’s commitment to the African Union Mission in Darfur, Sudan, have over-stretched the Nigerian Army, senior military sources said.
Read our last week’s detailed report on the hardship troops are facing here.

Damn, so not only are they not fit to put forth a proper fight, they aren't even fit to feed themselves. Nigeria is an African disgrace. If I were Nigerian, I'd never admit to it.


Source: http://premiumtimesng.com/news/120000-exclusive-hardship-hits-nigerian-troops-in-mali-as-officers-solicit-food-from-locals.html

souldust: @snydergp. You have no capacity to cripple any one's economy. I have talked about this before and pls dont take us back.

By 'cripling our economy' i know you mean a blockade. But a blockade of nigeria's waters isnt possible by the SA navy. Fact!

You think those few ships and subs you have can effectively wount a blockade on 800km of costal line and some NMs int o the sea? We have discussed this before and pls go back to previous pages if you want to see them again.

My friend as I've said before none of ur current fleet of naval ships has the capacity or firepower to out class any of our warships weapons systems.

As I've also wrote before the ships we have are mend to kill other warship and is on par with anything Nato, UK or any western nation currently has in its fleet of that class of warships FACT or better yet Nigerian Navy for that matter.

What warships will u use please don't tell me that Relic Hamilton class destroyer AKA NNS Thunder american hand me down or that 38m Flag ship patrol boat the NNS ANDONI.

Please don't talk about subs because two subs is enough to render ur entire patrol boat fleet useless.

Can u please tell me why can South African Navy has the capability to protect its 2,798KM coastline including patrolling the Mozambiquen chanel up to the Tanzanian coastline.

The so called GIANT OF AFRICA Nigeria with all its resources its Navy struggle to protect 853KM coastline including the Gulf of Guinea from piracy and smugglers and need foreign nations military navies assistance to patrol coastline 3times smaller then South Africa's coastline, yet u claim here that the Nigerian Navy is capable of with standing a direct assault on its territory by a BLUE WATER NAVAL Country Like South Africa. Please go try this on a foolish Nigerian Blind Patriot

Blyss: EXCLUSIVE:

Damn, so not only are they not fit to put forth a proper fight, they aren't even fit to feed themselves. Nigeria is an African disgrace. If I were Nigerian, I'd never admit to it.


Source: http://premiumtimesng.com/news/120000-exclusive-hardship-hits-nigerian-troops-in-mali-as-officers-solicit-food-from-locals.html

You know if they actually asked for help from other nations they could get more done. But they to stuborn.

andrewza:

I am to board to repost the same things. They some where in this thread. Basicaly

We outwited a NATO task force with one sub in war games.
We train with major navel forces from all over the world has equale.
We have the best ships and sytems of any african navy.

I've spoken