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| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by kimxs(m): 9:21pm On Apr 26, 2010 |
Obviously the moderator of this thread does not appreciate facts, but seems content to allow NLders dwell on misinformation. I posted a comment five times to correct ElRazur but this guy keeps deleting it despite the absence of vulgar words. Well, guys please note that Dagrin prolly died of intracranial hemorrhage and not aneurysm. Check ur dictionaries for the meaning of 'arid' and 'aneurysm'. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by mrkoma2012: 9:24pm On Apr 26, 2010 |
R I P ceo |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by realwale: 9:29pm On Apr 26, 2010 |
i actually did not want to post my comment but decided to do so after going thr d thread. Firstly it has not bn ascertained if he was drink driving. he was coming from an assignmnent and calle his home he was on his way. i saw da grin's manager on TVc on saturday claiming he got a call from d truck driver who claimed he did not abandoned d truck as claimed. d driver said he was stopped by d police at d police station(d accident happenned in front of a police station) the truck driver is claiming d police were trying to extort N12000 from so he parked and they were on this when they heared a crash from behind.they initially ran away but came back later. corruption is d key issue we shud address here. what of politicians that are supposed to light up d road, LUTH shud have checked for internal bleeding d moment he was brought in. too bad. he is not d 1st artiste to be involved in an auto crash, wande coal,said balogun and a few others have survived, were they drinking too. let us be fair in our comments. we all know d way pple drive late in d night to avoid armed robbers, it all bore down to insecurity in our land. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by hannydarl(f): 10:11pm On Apr 26, 2010 |
Do Nigerian government owned hospitals have defibrillators? You know those things that they rub together and shock the chest of people with cardiac failure in oyinbo movies and hospitals. Abi am I asking for too much? I wonder howmany people have been allowed to die after doctor touched their wrists and looked at their pupils and declared them dead cos the heart stoped for a while and they couldnt even do the least basic CPR stuff in our hospitals. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by Kilode1: 10:47pm On Apr 26, 2010 |
realwale: Gbam! that is the issue, your post plus the fact that Nigeria's life expectancy rate is 45 years and probably plummeting are the real points here. Da Grin was a statistic waiting to happen. We all deserve some blame in his death and that of nameless Nigerians dying needlessly as I type, because we are "contented" with suffering and smilling. We will rather scream Sai Baba, Oga Sah and Ranka Dede than fight injustice, we are all guilty, myself included. until we decide that we've had enough of this culture of ineptitude, corruption and oppression and push and fight for change and liberty for ourselves as a people instead of glorifying mediocrity, we will shed tears over another Da Grin very soon, over another totally avoidable death. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by badboym: 11:44pm On Apr 26, 2010 |
Fingers should be pointed at Dagrin before any other thing, If there aren't street lights,his car had a full light.We are used to driving without street lights in Naija.Sometimes,I feel the guy was indulged in some Juju to blow up and that's why he sang a song like "If I die".Guess he was told time is up.Whichever way the Dude was good at what he did and yes I'll miss him. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by reindeer: 12:27am On Apr 27, 2010 |
its quite unfortunate many people miss the point terribly. The whole system called nigeria is in shambles, i hear people saying ''take him to some private hospitals'' they have mentioned here, mistake! those hospitals you have talked about rely totally on doctors from the same hospitals you call trash I once worked in one of the high profile ones in VI some years back, the type that charges you through your nose and i know what obtains but i knew since then that Nigerians care more about appearance than anything, they will not talk just cos those places look like its for rich folks. Lets face it,the hospitals are working miracles working with what they have right now believe me.someone talked about defibs, i laughed, those things work only on electricity i hope you know.the same with ventillators, those are not things you use and NEPA will be taking lights on and off. So lets pray for the repose of the soul of our dear Da Grin, fact is people need to rise up against this irresponsible bunch called leaders who have now even infected the average Nigerian with the ''fly him abroad'' syndrome. If a president cant bring home equipment and personnel to man a specialist kidney hospital in his home town(we arent begging him to build it in lagos or abuja, just give the country one very good renal center) we shouldnt sink to his levels by thinking things can never be right with our health system, we should shout, protest and agitate for a health system that can support life, not one that watches it slip by because the health workers have nothing to work with. Goodbye GRin, |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by nino213(m): 6:47am On Apr 27, 2010 |
dagrin's death is a warning 2 all nigerians who desperately need a change of the status quo.y would a trailer pack on the road.they ought 2 have garages,4 dem.y couldn't luth effectively take care of him.why did the resident doctor's go on strike.y doesn't luth life saving equipments.in foreign countries,people survive worse accidents b/c of their professional healthcare services being offered.things r 'n't 4cntioning well in this country,that's y we must pressurize the government 2 embrace the policy of deregulation,bc dat's d only our problem in naija can be solved.long live dagrin. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by messiah(m): 7:04am On Apr 27, 2010 |
[size=20pt]Who is DaGrin?  [/size] |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by kushe: 7:06am On Apr 27, 2010 |
we all prolly watch too much er and gray's anatomy and are blaming the hospitals and whoever we can get our fingers to point at. when good wants to happen in a person's life,it is amazing how all the factors just seem to align and then people call itgoodluck. on the flipside,when bad wan happen,it is also very amazing how everything just works to achieve that evil and we call it badluck. police corruption,drink driving,errors in judgment,buildings commissioned to treat only malaria and typhoid and yet called hospitals,inaccessibility of police to ambulance despite a 5 min proximity to luth,emergency registration procedure at luth,inoperational diagnostic aids,wrong diagnosis and eventually death.the day person go die,talk all the english you want and that person go go. the bible calls it an appointment. ''FOR IT IS APPOINTED UNTO MAN,ONCE TO DIE AND AFTER THAT THE JUDGMENT'' every appointment has a date,venue and time and so does death.some things are beyond us and if you doubt me go and watch a documentary on princess diana's last day.nothing for save am cos it was just game over. lets live so we can truly be missed and not merely eulogised when we go.i am 32 and dagrin's death is prolly the most painful i hav ever felt. when my granny died she was 89 and we were prepared cos it was only a matter of days.in dagrin's case my pain is how his genius came together,from the sick sooosick beats,to the witty use of yoruba and bro was a poet ,making sense and rhyming in yoruba.and the delivery was banging.look at the eclectic mix in kondo,from auto tune to mid tempo and guy was on point. we thought hip hop died that march night when biggie passed but it has somehow reincarnated in various forms from dmx to nelly,jeezy to lil wayne and now drake.dagrin will be back someday,maybe the guy is 14 now someplace in agege or mushin. eyin omo ogun,ema konju ti wan padaboo wa rep to the fullest. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by hollasammy(m): 9:36am On Apr 27, 2010 |
We live in a country where the health system is completely bad. If we have our things right. Dagrin and millions of people that have passed thru this same mishap wouldnt have died so soon. I think our Govt should wake up to its responsibilities. R.I.P Akogun!
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| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by oludashmi(f): 10:02am On Apr 27, 2010 |
Dagrin - A poem singer. His way of composing and singing the rhythm trips me, RIP Does anyone know if he has been buried? Any pix or site to see that? |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by nas00(m): 10:58am On Apr 27, 2010 |
I may not know the exact cause of Omo Olorun's death. However, this is my submission: Trauma is one of the most terrible emergency situations dat can happen to man because it more often than not ends up affecting virtually all the organ systems in the body. Again, recovery of a poly-traumatized patient trauma is a much slower process compared to localized trauma. Da Grin was most likely polytraumatized, with internal injury to the brain (contusion or concussion) very likely. However, I did not see his CT Scan. He could rupture a viscus, say his spleen, if his steering wheel rammed into him. He could have suffered a kidney 'shutdown' from several causes ranging from blood volume problems to severe muscle trauma. Now, even under the best healthcare conditions, He could still have died, basically because the sequence of internal events was progressing at a rate too rapid and the picture kept changing. Let us not blame it completely on the quality of healthcare Da Grin received. Sometimes by the time it gets to that stage, things may already be out of hand. If we have optimal (d ideal) healthcare services in 9ja, does it give u liberty to go break ur head, hoping ur brilliant doctors and 'tech' health system will be there 4 u? Absolutely no! So, PREVENTION IS KEY. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO PREVENT RATHER THAN REPENT. REPENTANCE MAY BE TOO LATE. I hereby submit that whoever we are, wherever we are and however rich we may be, IF U KNOW U WILL DRIVE A VEHICLE PLEEASE DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL. OTHERWISE GET A DRIVER (WHO MUST ALSO NOT TAKE ALCOHOL). Cos if Da Grin was not under the influence/ euphoria of alcohol, he wouldn't have run straight into a truck, even it it was right in the middle of the road. So sad.  |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by ud4u: 11:28am On Apr 27, 2010 |
rip |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by masido(f): 11:52am On Apr 27, 2010 |
Richfella: |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by Ak4ril(m): 12:05pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
nas 00: True talk, but it is possible that Dagrin was not drunk at that moment, I strongly disagree with you that he wouldn't have run into the truck if he wasn't drunk, have you forgotten the case of a former staff of Channels TV that ran into a truck parked along the expressway in the night some years ago, despite the fact that he had seen the truck earlier on his way to his office and had complained about the carelessness of the truck driver. Don't forget that the accident occured in the middle of the night, on a narrow road that does not have street light; moreso,we can't envisage the rate of his speed. He might be at a top speed since it was in the night. Well, the deed has been done, I hope we will all learn our lessons. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by baybbootz(f): 12:27pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
Da grin WAS NOT DRUNK NOR TIPSY, some of the doctors incharge strongly claim there was no trace of alcohol. So as the blames are being passed,we should respect the dead and not say what we arnt sure off. Besides all this talk here will not prompt our government to carry out her duties properly. Small drops of water make an ocean,lets start from within. IF a toughtful citizen had droped some sort of caution sign behind the trailer,maybe dagrin would still be alive. Anyway it has happened it has happened,as much as we have learned from this incidence. We should remember that DEATH is inevitable and the gateway to eternal peace and life. Da grin is in a better place. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by nas00(m): 12:39pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
@ Ak4ril: U're on point sir. I mean he is more likely to have made attempts to avoid d crash if he had not been on alcohol's influence. If this is so, he would have swerved his car such that the collision impact would not be head-on like we saw in the pics of the crashed car. The other side of the story may be dat his speed was just too much that he could not bring the car to a halt before the crash, prolly because he saw d truck too late. Such happens when d mind is pre-occupied with other thoughts (loss of concentration) The pic THAT I SAW tells me he ran into d truck straight on, meaning he wasn't oriented enuff to either recognize the truck (as a potential danger) or take safety measures. , and that is exactly what alcohol does, THOUGH I DON'T HAVE PROOF HE WAS DRUNK, Da Grin WAS MOST LIKELY NOT HIMSELF WHEN THE CRASH OCCURED. Yes, accident occured in the middle of the night, but his car had headlamps (developed using latest technology) and he wasn't going round a bend.  One could figure out all these, but i repeat, only God knows what exactly caused d crash and why O'Grin died. Do u copy? |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by baybbootz(f): 12:55pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
Nas 00 Dagrin was NOT under the influence of alcohol. The doctors confirmed it,so lets get our FACTS straight before we post. yes probably he was not concentrating,but we were not at the scene we cant know for sure what happened, have u forgoten how lagosians drive at night due to fear of robbers? Before the truck driver went into the police station why did he not put up some sort of caution sign.NO he was more concerned about the 12k and not at the lives he was endangering, |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by styles2009: 1:26pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
Hi My opinion is, he would have still be alive and recovering,if they had rescued his well from the crash. Looking at the car he was, they might have cut all the metals and used force to get him out of the car,which would even cause more damages to his spinal cord or nervous system. Many people die in Nigeria not really from the accident but from the first aid given to them,cos if the first aid is not carried out well,they remain on wheelchair forever or it result to death. As for the Nigerian system,there would never been a report of the true cause of death and the health care system in Nigeria, i can't say much about it,as am not there at the moment. Eddy |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by nas00(m): 1:47pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
Hullo baybbootz, I feel ur pains too. , and did u notice i have made my statement non-committal on the issue of alcohol? I only deduced, from what i saw of his car, the possibilities and used the circumstances to charge fellow NLers not to take alcohol if they would drive. Sometimes, if u can't work from question to answer, u should be able to work from answer to question. That's what i've done here. I chose to disregard the truck driver not because he (and those bastards called police) had done what is right, but because the accident may not have occured if everything was right with C.E.O. Over! |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by hannydarl(f): 3:16pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
All of you guys saying the health system is doing quite good and that it doesenot matter in the cases of death of millions of people who died due to poor health care I seriously pray that oneday it will be your turn and then the doctors will tell your parents to take you somewhere else in 5 different hospitals cos of lack of infrastructure and when you are finnaly taken in by one because your people beg them to give you panadol first and you pkeme we will all come here and say oh DONT BLEME THE HOSPITALS AND GOVERNMENT IT WAS HIS TURN TO DIE THAT WAS WHY THERE WAS NO LIGHT OR OXYGEN TANK. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by tessybrown(m): 3:21pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
http://ladieshood.waphall.com iz say bye &fare wel dagrin, |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by DL(m): 3:37pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
Look guys,if truly he was drunk driving,then just blame it on the alcohol cos a lot of shit could happen when driving at hours like that talk less of when under the influence. Likewise a lot of shit could be avoided more easily when not drunk driving. No doubt the state of the hospitals aint that fantastic but it aint so bad either (at least in lagos), and I'm not referring to hospitals that have just one or 2 wards being run by male nurses that pose as doctors  .Anywayz he is Dead and Gone,and from the pictures, all I can say is some serious shit went down that nite. May the C.E.O R.I.P [size=5pt]Sometimes when I sleep n I'm dreaming I just don't wanna wake up. I'm married to the game n me n ma b*tch gon neva break up, n I wonderrrrr[/size] |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by alisigwe(m): 3:44pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
Rip ceo,smtimes life could be so depressing even after the chesse and the comfort,i lost ma bro at the age of 16 and grandma died kuz of the shock,so i wnder hw his fam will take it,smtimes we do feel tha the cheda's mre important than life,i knw sme dudes tha d exchange their life 4 10 yrs of mad luxury.GOD 4give me 4 such thoughts kuz being poor really sucks.mybe it's jst his time.sad dnt even knw what to say |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:23pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
I was almost in the same situation months ago. Some animal parked a trailer on the road without a caution sign. There were streetlights and I drank nothing. u know, u dont actually need to drink something' before seeing trailers parked by animals on the road. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by Hauwa1: 4:24pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
i have been following the news, it is always "not ascertain he was drunk'" so how long will it take to confirm he was drunk? nonsense system there in nigeria. |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by Afanna1: 5:39pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
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| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by yomifowe(m): 7:34pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
Its time we tell ourselves the truth. Whether it has been confirmed that he was drunk or not, the guy was obviously not himself when it happened (I understand that the truck he ran under was parked on the roadside!). Let us as youths shun vices and work on our character. period! |
| Re: Dagrin And The State Of Healthcare In Nigeria by JoeGaruba: 8:33pm On Apr 27, 2010 |
Unless I know the details of the treatment he got, I cant say they did not do everything they could to save him prompting his folks to come out with that press release. I know our medical practitioners work hard with the little they have. If the FG could invest more in that sector. What i do know for a fact is that many of our country men and women die daily from illness and injury they would survive in some parts of the world. Granted, not everyone is saved even there. Respecting speed limits too can save lives. The damage on the car can only be the result of a high speed collision. If this was in front of a police station, I doubt the speed limit would be 100km/hr. There is plenty of blame to go around.  May God be with the family and friends he is leaving behind. Amen |
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