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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 2:22pm On Oct 08, 2020
What if Donald Trump wins again?
David Frum: First-term Trump was lazy, gullible, ignorant, vain and crooked. Second-term Trump would be worse.

By David Frum
October 7, 2020

If Trump can limit his Electoral College losses in the fall election, he can still eke out a win.

What if he wins? The first thing to understand about that great “what if”—from which so many other grim “what ifs” would follow—is what in the real world a so-called Donald Trump “win” would look like.

If everyone eligible to vote is allowed to vote, if every vote legally cast is counted—then Trump is doomed. His only hope is to find some way to stop the voting, stop the count, and then rely on the weird mechanics of the U.S. Electoral College to save him, against the people’s vote.

Barton Gellman reported in the Atlantic in September that the Trump team is working with officials in Republican-held states to set aside vote counts altogether—and instead authorize state legislatures to choose the state’s electors. If this scheme proves unfeasible, the Trump team has in mind a series of smaller finagles: arbitrarily stopping vote counts prematurely, rejecting—or outright seizing—mailed ballots, and many other forms of chicanery not seen in U.S. politics since the aftermath of the Civil War.

Here’s the core math to remember on the way to a Trump “win."

PAUL WELLS: What if Donald Trump loses?
It’s a good estimate that somewhere close to 145 million Americans will vote in 2020, up from 133 million in 2016. The average of all the major national opinion polls suggests that this vote will break 50.3 per cent for Biden, 43.5 per cent for Trump; a margin of 10 million votes for Biden.

But in a presidential election, the crucial votes are cast not by the people, but by the states, through the Electoral College. In 2016, Trump won 2.9 million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton, yet he won 306 electoral votes to Hillary Clinton’s 232. If in 2020 Trump can limit his Electoral College losses to his very most threatened states—Michigan and Arizona—he can still eke out a 279 to 259 win. (Trump also got a single electoral vote from Maine in 2016. If he loses that, too, he can still squeak to victory, or 278 to 260.)

For all the talk about the solid Trump “base,” it’s important to remember that Trump has been the least popular first-term president in the history of opinion polling, the only first-term president never to reach 50 per cent approval in any reputable poll. Every single day of the Trump presidency since his inauguration in 2017, a documented majority of the American people have disapproved of his administration.

So, the answer to the “what if Trump wins” question needs a little clarifying. Before we reach the effect of a Trump second term on the domestic and foreign policy of the United States, we need to consider how Trump gets from here to there. In real life, the question “what if Trump wins” really means:

What if Donald Trump claims a second term despite another rejection by the majority of American voters?
A Trump “win” will open the question: does voting work? If the American people cannot get rid of a rejected president by casting millions more votes against him than votes for him—how do they get rid of him?

If Trump not only loses the popular vote, but loses that vote in ways that look unfair—stopping the count, junking mailed ballots, forcing voters in minority neighbourhoods to wait in huge lines while voters in wealthier neighbourhoods wait in short ones—what then? The only way a Trump re-election can be achieved is by setting aside normal expectations of how democracy should work. What happens then? Will politics move into the streets? Since the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer in May 2020, American cities have been wracked by protests and disturbances on a scale not seen since the 1960s. Do bigger and more turbulent protests follow in 2021?

A Trump second term will probably not look like the mostly quiet first three years of the Trump first term. A Trump re-election portends severe political instability for the United States. If Democrats take the Senate in 2020 or in 2022, will there be more impeachment contests, not only of Trump himself, but of despised Trump cabinet appointees like Attorney General Bill Barr? And what happens to the Supreme Court nomination that a re-elected Trump will try to cram through over the objection of the majority of U.S. voters? Will doubts about Trump’s legitimacy spread to other parts of the U.S. political and constitutional system?

And if so, what happens next?

What if Donald Trump tries to force his agenda after a second popular-vote loss?
Republicans face a tough Senate map in 2020. The Senate seats on the ballot in 2022 look even less hospitable to a Trump-led Republican Party. Odds are high, then, that Trump will face not one but two hostile chambers of Congress in a second term.

Those two hostile chambers will show a second minority-elected Trump presidency scant deference. They will see Trump as an illegitimate president, corrupt and compromised by foreign powers, somebody who gamed a broken system hopelessly biased against the American majority.

Trump will have no leverage, no ability to persuade Congress, no ability to reach over the head of Congress to mobilize the American people who will have just repudiated him. His only powers will be those that a president can use unilaterally.

Which leads to the third “what if”:

What if Trump’s scandals and crimes catch up with him in a second term?
In July 2020, the U.S. Supreme Court gave Trump the gift of time. Congress and New York state prosecutors had subpoenaed Trump’s bankers and accountants for financial records. Precedents dating back to the 1880s clearly favoured Congress. But the court found an escape hatch that postponed release of the documents until after the November election.

What has already been seen of Trump’s financial history has been scandalous enough. Evidence of tax fraud, of insurance fraud, of bank fraud, of charity fraud, of money-laundering, of business deals with foreign criminals has all come to light. Should Congress and state prosecutors get hold of more complete records, Trump may face civil and criminal liability on a scale more like a crime boss than a president of the United States.

Yet Trump will be president and will have tools to protect himself: especially the power to pardon. Trump can incentivize and reward silence by witnesses against him. He commuted the sentence of Roger Stone, his go-between to Julian Assange and WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign. He could pardon Paul Manafort, Steve Bannon, Ghislaine Maxwell and other Trump associates accused or convicted of crimes that might implicate Trump. He could pardon his children. He could test the limits of law and try to pardon himself.

A second Trump term will see never-ending battles over a president’s power to immunize himself from accusations of crime. It will be Gotham City with the villains in charge.

So, the fourth “what if”:

What if Trump tries to lead U.S. alliances and partnerships around the world despite his illegitimacy at home?
Former secretary of defense James Mattis often says that the United States has two powers: the power of intimidation and the power of inspiration.

In a second Trump term, America’s powers of inspiration will dwindle. America under Trump looks authoritarian, corrupt and incompetent. Its performance during the COVID-19 pandemic was worse than incompetent. The U.S. president seemed motivated by crazy fantasies and infantile egotism as hundreds of thousands of Americans sickened and died unnecessarily.

The rhetoric of democracy will sound derisive in the mouth of an administration put in office by a favoured minority; the language of human rights will command little respect when the American president himself calls it “beautiful” when U.S. police turn their weapons on reporters doing their jobs.

Trump has made clear his vastly greater comfort with and sympathy for authoritarian leaders than democratic allies. Public opinion in the democratic allies has turned sharply against Trump and the United States.

And all this alienation of democratic friends coincides with a marked decline in America’s powers of intimidation.

During the financial crisis of 2008-2009, the U.S. economy was triple the size of China’s. Over the past decade, China has closed much of that gap: the U.S. economy is now only 50 per cent larger than China’s. On the present trajectory, China should equal the U.S. in the next decade or so.

Trump’s big idea as president was to preserve the U.S. lead over China. His administration adopted three big policies to achieve that end: a) a big corporate tax cut to boost U.S. growth; b) tariffs and other anti-trade measures to harm Chinese growth; and c) a big increase in military spending to deter Chinese aggression.

The big tax cut failed to deliver results. It went into effect at the end of 2017. The U.S. economy grew by 2.9 per cent in 2018 and 2.3 per cent in 2019—pleasant but unremarkable, and always short of Trump’s promise of four or even five per cent. There was not a single quarter under Trump when growth caught up to the best quarters under Barack Obama, in 2009, 2011 and 2014.

The trade war with China backfired on the United States. Chinese growth did slow in 2018 and 2019—but remained double that of the U.S. Meanwhile, American anti-trade measures harmed the U.S. farm economy and were the main reason for the slowdown in 2019 as compared to 2018.

As for Trump’s military buildup—$100 billion more in the current year than Obama’s last year—it seems to have had no effect at all. Ships and planes cannot protect democratic demonstrators in Hong Kong, or pressure China to crack down on North Korea, or stop Chinese cyberattacks on U.S. hospitals, or match China’s aid to resource-rich African countries. The two countries are just playing different games. When the United States accumulates weapons to win the game China is not playing, it does not prevent China from winning the game China is playing.

Which raises another terrifying “what if”:

What if there are more and worse crises ahead?
During the COVID outbreak, Donald Trump proved himself a dangerously poor crisis manager. He refused to plan for bad contingencies. He disregarded unwanted information. He interpreted all news through his own ego. He trusted crank information that promised no-work miracles over the advice of experts and scientists. He squandered his credibility by blatantly lying. He could never summon an iota of care or concern for anyone beside himself.

Luckily for Trump, he enjoyed a comparatively easy ride through his first three years in office. Except for natural disasters, he faced only self-created crises until coronavirus struck.

That luck is unlikely to hold in a second term.

There may be more and worse natural disasters, like the hurricane that struck Puerto Rico in 2017 and the wildfires that ravaged the Pacific coast this summer. The recovery from coronavirus may be slower and more painful than hoped. The massive government debt piled up by Trump in his first four years—the heaviest load since the Second World War—may spike interest rates. China and India may fight, North Korea may fire rockets at Japan: your imagination is the only limit here. And Trump will be Trump, only worse. First-term Trump was lazy, gullible, vain, ignorant and crooked. Second-term Trump will be all those things, but also exposed to the whole world as lacking any clout with Congress, any authority in the country. Trump will tweet, people will get mad, but the president will have lost his ability to make things happen. When it counts most for Americans and the world, there will be effectively no U.S. president at all.

Yet as absent as he is, Trump still commands the loyalty of a ferocious minority who regard him as their champion against a threatening world. If he can hold the presidency for four more years, he can hold them. Which brings us to the last ominous “what if”:

What if Trump remakes the Republican Party as a Trump party for years to come?
The Republicans under Trump have become a post-democratic party. They have ceased to compete for votes. They instead compete to prevent voting. If they lose in 2020, they may accept that this project has failed.

But if Trump wins the Electoral College again in 2020, Republicans will collect the rewards of power without earning them the democratic way. A sinister new project will have delivered proof of concept. When something works, it survives. It spreads.

A second Trump term will see never-ending battles

Over the long term, it is conservative Americans who have the most to gain if Trump loses. The discrediting of Trump offers their only path back to democratic viability. Republicans will not self-correct on their own—we have seen that over the past three-plus years. Too many have staked too much on him to turn away, unless painful defeat compels them to turn away. If Trump preserves a hold on power after November 2020, he will preserve his hold on his party—and continue his corruption of that party. Redeemed from Trump, they can renew themselves as a democratically competitive party of the centre-right. But only via defeat can they be redeemed.

The “what if” of a Trump win is a turn away from democratic competition to rule by the most ruthless, the most shameless, the most willing to prevail by any means necessary. That’s a turn to a very dark and dangerous future indeed. On Nov. 3, Americans will decide upon one direction or another—not only by how they vote, but by whether those votes are allowed to decide.

Ronald Reagan liked to call the United States a “shining city on a hill.” He was borrowing from the biblical Book of Matthew: “A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid.” In the Bible, that verse was not a boast. It was a warning. A city that is set on a hill cannot conceal its faults. Everybody can see. So it is with the United States. Their affairs matter to everyone. If their system succeeds, all free people everywhere are freer and safer. If their system fails, all free people everywhere suffer alongside them.

So what happens if Trump wins? The democratic idea loses. The world trade system loses. Collective security against authoritarian threats from Russia and China—that loses, too. Anybody of a mind to chuckle, point or condescend—after your first few moments of feeling superior—you lose, too. The whole world thrives or falters according to whether the United States thrives or falters. If Trump wins, that experiment falters—maybe not forever, because nothing is forever, but for a dangerously long time.

It’s not only American democracy on the U.S. ballot in November. It’s yours, too.

David Frum is an author and political commentator who served in the first administration of U.S. president George W. Bush. His latest book, Trumpocalypse: Restoring American Democracy, was published in May.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 2:29pm On Oct 08, 2020
pryme:


Kamala Harris refused to let a black man go even when the Jury acquitted him, Harris was widely condemned for this.
You may choose to argue this, but Harris has a very bad record with black people.

A little research wont hurt.


lol i knew that if i check properly it would be wrong analysis, because if it was true i wont just be hearing about it, conservatives would have blowed my ears off about it. So here is what happened, When she was DA in san fransisco , she started a justice reform program, releasing a bunch of individuals, so there is this man that was jailed in 1989 for double murders, in 2009 he was accuited but without pre judice, if you dont know the meaning of without prejudice, look it up. So evidence showed he had issues, she had to call it up back. That is the work of the DA, if he was sure he was treated unfairly or wrong why didnt he sue her ?, and the guy has categorically said he felt hurt but that doesn’t stop her run for Vp, yall claim Democrats are the criminals, and Now we are showing you a woman that is very tough on crime you are saying she is too tough right ?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:30pm On Oct 08, 2020
As at 8.30am Central Time, for the clueless Coons and Cultists in the village, that's 8.30am Chicago Time. 213.000+ Americans dead of Trumpvirus and almost 8 million Americans infected. Coons and Cultists, your lord and savior Trump is waiting for you guys to hop on a plane to come and vote for him but fortunately for us Democrats, not single one of you can get a Visa to UAE or South Africa not to talk of America. Enjoy your N200 data y'all. Nairaland is the only place your lunacy and mouth wetting ends.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:35pm On Oct 08, 2020
The Independence seekers are all out in full bloom in support of Trump who met couple Summers ago with Buhari at the White House and Trump never said a word about Biafra. That's the main reason all these so called mud filled villagers are supporting Trump and I have sad news for them, Trump doesn't give a damn about people like you in a country he called a shiithole with his own mouth.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:36pm On Oct 08, 2020
Marines' No. 2 general tests positive for COVID-19 after Pentagon meeting - Marine Gen. Gary Thomas was already quarantining following Joint Chiefs meeting

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/marines-general-tests-positive-covid-19-pentagon-meeting/story?id=73487379&cid=clicksource_4380645_15_comic_strip_sq_hed

Gen. Gary Thomas, the assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, has tested positive for COVID-19, according to the Marines.

The Marines' number two general had been in quarantine, along with nine other top military officers in the Joint Chiefs of Staff, following a positive test for a top Coast Guard admiral who had tested positive for the virus.

"On Wednesday, the Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps, General Gary L. Thomas, tested positive for COVID-19," according to a Marine Corps statement. "He had been in self-quarantine since Tuesday, October 6, out of an abundance of caution following notification of close contact with a person who later tested positive for the virus."

That person was Adm. Charles Ray, the assistant commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard, who had attended a Pentagon meeting last Friday with the Joint Chiefs.

Thomas had attended the meeting in place of Gen. David Berger, the Marine Commandant, who was traveling in Europe at the time.

On Tuesday, the Pentagon announced that the senior officers who attended the meeting were quarantining at home as a precautionary move. They included Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. John Hyten, the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the other senior generals and admiral in charge of the Army, Navy, Air Force, National Guard, Space Force, as well as Gen. Paul Nakasone, who runs both U.S. Cyber Command and the National Security Agency.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:38pm On Oct 08, 2020

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kingbee90: 2:41pm On Oct 08, 2020
I think Donald Trump made a right decision to boycott the proposed virtual debate. These Dems are already scared due to Kamala's awful performance in the just concluded VP candidates debate.
GOD BLESS AMERICA & UP DONALD TRUMP.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 2:46pm On Oct 08, 2020
https://www.nairaland.com/6165832/stephen-miller-tests-positive-covid-19/2

I bet many Nigerians on the thread above don't know who the f*** Stephen ' Hilter' Miller is.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:47pm On Oct 08, 2020
The servile dogs of Trump are coming out of their unlit hideout one by one. The same gala hawkers that wouldn't vote in Nigeria without getting their usual little bag of rice and pitiful N1.000.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:48pm On Oct 08, 2020
pryme:
Now the Dems want a virtual debate, why change the rules when they think they won?


Trump not attending

https://twitter.com/i/status/1314174965978198018

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:48pm On Oct 08, 2020
kophschmerzenii:
https://www.nairaland.com/6165832/stephen-miller-tests-positive-covid-19/2

I bet many Nigerians on the thread above don't know who the f*** Stephen ' Hilter' Miller is.
How do you expect our gala hawking, okrika wearing cultists to know. Not one of them have ever step inside an aircraft in their woeful lives.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 2:49pm On Oct 08, 2020
kingbee90:
I think Donald Trump made a right decision to boycott the proposed virtual debate. These Dems are already scared due to Kamala's awful performance in the vp candidate's debate.
GOD BLESS DONALD AMERICA & UP DONALD TRUMP.

CRAP!!! He's losing in a landslide. MO, LA and KY are in play. Never happened in modern history. The two senate seat in MO are trending Dems. Lady G rightly predicted it, that if they elected Trump the GOP will rightly wiped off.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 2:50pm On Oct 08, 2020
One thing i know is, if trump looses. Before January he is going to take the blame for all the fedral crimes then resign, pence becomes president and pardons him, simple. Like nixon did. Party of criminals. Well he has state crimes to defend, but for fedral crimes nothing is going to happen to him.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 2:51pm On Oct 08, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
How do you expect our gala hawking, okrika wearing cultists to know. Not one of them have ever step inside an aircraft in their woeful lives.

But it's really pathetic the strong support Trump is getting from Nigerians, the outlook on the country is so bad.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:52pm On Oct 08, 2020
kingbee90:
I think Donald Trump made a right decision to boycott the proposed virtual debate. These Dems are already scared due to Kamala's awful performance in the just concluded VP candidates debate.
GOD BLESS AMERICA & UP DONALD TRUMP.

About not planning of attending the virtual debate, Trump's actions proves that he is heartless and selfish and doesn't care about keeping those around him safe from the virus and doesn't care about risk spreading the virus around to the White House staff.

But he's planning of doing more rallies.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:53pm On Oct 08, 2020
feedthenation:



Trump not attending

https://twitter.com/i/status/1314174965978198018

Trump the Spreader in Chief wants to spread the virus hence he is angry because PDC wants virtual debates. He can go on his Hate Rallies and infect his servile dogs like he did to Herman Cain in Tuksa, Oklahoma or the cultists that gathered at the Rose Garden for the nomination of Barrett. He's not bringing anything to the debate except lying and throwing tantrums like a seven year old spoilt child. Good riddance to the worst President in American History and one of God's worst creatures on Earth.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:56pm On Oct 08, 2020
kophschmerzenii:


But it's really pathetic the strong support Trump is getting from Nigerians, the outlook on the country is so bad.
No Buddy, majority of Nigerians don't care for Trump. This cave hunters here are the Biafra agitators who doesn't have a clue about the happenings in America. You can see the quality and quantity of Nigerians on this forum that loathes Don the Con. Most of the Igbo guys I know in US can't stand Trump because they know the havoc he's wrecking in America. Don't pay attention to the 8 or 10 gala hawking, okrika wearing cave hunters here.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:57pm On Oct 08, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
Trump the Spreader in Chief wants to spread the virus hence he is angry because PDC wants virtual debates. He can go on his Hate Rallies and infect his servile dogs like he did to Herman Cain in Tuksa, Oklahoma or the cultists that gathered at the Rose Garden for the nomination of Barrett. He's not bringing anything to the debate except lying and throwing tantrums like a seven year old spoilt child. Good riddance to the worst President in American History and one of God's worst creatures on Earth.

I lay blame on WH medical staff for allowing Trump out of isolation at Walter Reed, they should have sedated him to last for 7 days

Only the 'stupidest' of people will attend Trump rallies

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kingbee90: 2:59pm On Oct 08, 2020
kophschmerzenii:


But it's really pathetic the strong support Trump is getting from Nigerians, the outlook on the country is so bad.

Nigerians(excluding all Islamic Jihadists/terrorists) love Trump because he is a MAN with BALLS. Dude really transformed the American economy & provided jobs for all Americans within 3 & half yr of his 1st tenure before China released their VIRUS into the world & here we are today.
Unlike the Fulani jihadist we have now as our president who derives pleasure in seeing Nigerians suffer.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:59pm On Oct 08, 2020
feedthenation:


I lay blame on WH medical staff for allowing Trump out of isolation at Walter Reed, they should have sedated him to last for 7 days

Only the 'stupidest' of people will attend Trump rallies
That's why they are called Cultists. They follow the cult leader to his grave. We have seen that before in US with the case of Rev Jim Jones of Guyana fame and David Kouresh of Waco, Texas. These guys are sadly unpaid Coons that will never get one benefit from the Orange turd they worship

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:02pm On Oct 08, 2020
Trumpolini pulling out of the debate is a win win situation for Biden


The second debate is even a townhall where Biden will get 90 minutes of uninterrupted free time to speak to voters and the American people.

Trumpolini's campaign lame excuse that Biden will use a telemprompter when he does not even know the questions is annoying.Trump is the one who needs help because if this trajectory continues as it is going he is going to lose but he doesn't care.
Also how can you skip a debate that will make people safe and want to hold a superspreader rally that will affect people how do these clowns even think.

Anyway I will definitely watch the Biden townhall next week since Trump is not interested in expanding his illiterate base

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 3:03pm On Oct 08, 2020
kingbee90:


Nigerians(excluding all Islamic Jihadists/terrorists) love Trump because he is a MAN with BALLS. Dude really transformed the American economy & provided jobs for all Americans within 3 & half yr of his 1st tenure before China released their VIRUS into the world & here we are today.
Unlike the Fulani jihadist we have now as our president who derives pleasure in seeing Nigerians suffer.

CRAP!!! You don't know what the f****k you talking about.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 3:05pm On Oct 08, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
No Buddy, majority of Nigerians don't care for Trump. This cave hunters here are the Biafra agitators who doesn't have a clue about the happenings in America. You can see the quality and quantity of Nigerians on this forum that loathes Don the Con. Most of the Igbo guys I know in US can't stand Trump because they know the havoc he's wrecking in America. Don't pay attention to the 8 or 10 gala hawking, okrika wearing cave hunters here.

Saw many Nigerians supporting him under the comment of Candace Owens and many coons.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 3:05pm On Oct 08, 2020
kingbee90:


Nigerians(excluding all Islamic Jihadists/terrorists) love Trump because he is a MAN with BALLS. Dude really transformed the American economy & provided jobs for all Americans within 3 & half yr of his 1st tenure before China released their VIRUS into the world & here we are today.
Unlike the Fulani jihadist we have now as our president who derives pleasure in seeing Nigerians suffer.

Lies and bullshit, he didn’t transform any American economy, he increased deficits, and reduced job growth, how is that transform ? As you can see from my images below. If you like call me terorist na you sabi. And about the coronavirus, not his total fault but he had faults, you shouldn’t lie, didnt listen to science, threw out the pandemic playbook, pulled cdc out of china, disbanded the pandemic unit. Most people are calling it his fault because of his criticism claiming obama caused H1N1 and ebola, that had lesser percentages to what covid has done, and about balls, he is just a big talker thats all.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kingbee90: 3:06pm On Oct 08, 2020
feedthenation:


About not planning of attending the virtual debate, Trump's actions proves that he is heartless and selfish and doesn't care about keeping those around him safe from the virus and doesn't care about risk spreading the virus around to the White House staff.

But he's planning of doing more rallies.

DID BUHARI ATTEND ANY DEBATE IN 2015? He adamantly refused to debate against Jonathan yet some slowpokes still want ahead to vote for him.
Why is Trump's case different? why a virtual debate? if they(Dems) still think he has the virus why not reorganise the studio even if it means putting the 2 candidates in a transparent glass box like they did in the just concluded BBNAIJA LOCKDOWN.
I can see the Dems pissing/shitting their pants. LOL

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 3:08pm On Oct 08, 2020
kingbee90:


DID BUHARI ATTEND ANY DEBATE IN 2015? He adamantly refused to debate against Jonathan yet some slowpokes still want ahead to vote for him.
Why is Trump's case different? why a virtual debate? if they(Dems) still think he has the virus why not reorganise the studio even if it means putting the 2 candidates in a transparent glass box like they did in the just concluded BBNAIJA LOCKDOWN.
I can see the Dems pissing/shitting their pants. LOL

And you really think any of us support buhari ? Or you think the US should be run the way the poverty capital of the world is being run lmao, no biafra for you mr man. Calmdown, and about putting him in a box, you think mr trump would agree, it took a level of negotiation ms for pence to agree too the little glass used in yesterday’s debate.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:15pm On Oct 08, 2020
kophschmerzenii:


Saw many Nigerians supporting him under the comment of Candace Owens and many coons.
Believe me Buddy I know Nigeria very well and will be visiting my parents in Lagos as usual for Xmas. These guys lapping behind Trump are losers in the game of life. Most of them think they will get their Biafra through Trump and frankly are lots of them love him for his scams as they are scammers in Nigeria too. You will be surprised if you see some of these losers in real life, they are not delightful to look at with their poverty ridden faces on top of their okrika outfits. Nigeria is a country of 200 million people and the loudmouths are surely a minority. All the years these cultists have been praising Trump to high heavens, ask them one thing they got from their licking Trump's ugly fat Orange a#s and they can't mention one thing.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kingbee90: 3:15pm On Oct 08, 2020
Timiofak:


And you really think any of us support buhari ? Or you think the US should be run the way the poverty capital of te world is being run lmao, no biafra for you mr man. Calmdown, and about putting him in a box, you think mr trump would agree, it took a level of negotiation ms for pence to agree too the little glass used in yesterday’s debate.

And who made Nigeria poverty capital of the world?
My point is: the energy you always use in painting Donald Trump black, use that same energy to condemn your own president & your contribution might make a difference.
Las Las Nigeria is our country. Don't allow ur American dream to make you forget that.

P.S: It's not every Trump supporter that's a Biafran. Omoluabi nì mï.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:17pm On Oct 08, 2020
You have to pick your battles carefully.
Don't answer every fruit cakes with N200 data spouting garbage on Nairaland.
Timiofak:


Lies and bullshit, he didn’t transform any American economy, he increased deficits, and reduced job growth, how is that transform ? As you can see from my images below. If you like call me terorist na you sabi. And about the coronavirus, not his total fault but he had faults, you shouldn’t lie, didnt listen to science, threw out the pandemic playbook, pulled cdc out of china, disbanded the pandemic unit. Most people are calling it his fault because of his criticism claiming obama caused H1N1 and ebola, that had lesser percentages to what covid has done, and about balls, he is just a big talker thats all.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kingbee90: 3:18pm On Oct 08, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
You have to pick your battles carefully.
Don't answer every fruit cakes with N200 data spouting garbage on Nairaland.

Kindly SHUT DA F .U.C.K UP sir

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 3:19pm On Oct 08, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
Believe me Buddy I know Nigeria very well and will be visiting my parents in Lagos as usual for Xmas. These guys lapping behind Trump are losers in the game of life. Most of them think they will get their Biafra through Trump and frankly are lots of them love him for his scams as they are scammers in Nigeria too. You will be surprised if you see some of these losers in real life, they are not delightful to look at with their poverty ridden faces on top of their okrika outfits. Nigeria is a country of 200 million people and the loudmouths are surely a minority. All the years these cultists have been praising Trump to high heavens, ask them one thing they got from their licking Trump's ugly fat Orange a#s and they can't mention one thing.

grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:22pm On Oct 08, 2020
You get the losers in life who doesn't know what it takes to live in a Western world mouthing off because they have a Cheap Made in China Phone and N200 data to spout their garbage. Guys that don't know what a Balanced Diet is all about. Nov 3rd will send these cockroaches back to the sewage holes they came from.

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