Kobo: "Shows how little you know of corruption in America . . . is madoff not an america? What about the current  senator faces charges of misappropriation in America?"

Sigh. Madoff isn't a governor so why bring him into the discussion? I'm comparing state leadership in the two countries. I'll concede that there are several bad egg senators/governors in there with dirty hands but corruption on a state level is not anywhere close to the type that we see in Nigeria and you know this. You can't compare the situation on ground here (where govs loot state treasuries with passion and abandon, not even bothering to cover up their tracks) with the kind of small-scale misappropriation they do in America (where 8 times out of 10 the guilty party is caught and punished to the full extent of the law). At the end of the day, you have to agree that even if some US governors are chopping small they are still performing!

Kobo: "You do not understand the reason for state creation do you? I suggest you go get yourself an education. State creation helps with distribution of wealth and also helps with policy making. By focusing on a smaller area and population, states are better able to devise policies that better cater to the people and ensure that money alloted for development can be best applied and monitored."

Go get yourself an education? LWKMD! Sweetheart, I'm not gonna even start comparing degrees and levels of education with you on this forum because that's just petty. Suffice it to say that I am very well educated thank you! All these yarns you're spouting just sound to me like theories from a Pol. Sci. textbook! As far as I'm concerned the argument that "state creation helps with distribution of wealth and policy making" is debatable at best but even if it were the gospel truth, you musn't forget the monster that is Naija.  It is a living, breathing contradiction where nothing works as it should. Yes, after state creation the new governors may be "better able to devise policies that better cater to the people and ensure that money alloted for development can be best applied and monitored" (I am absolutely unconvinced of this btw) but will they actually work for the people or for themselves? Based on governor's track records in this country I think you know the answer.

You still haven't figured out what is going on at this point?? ROFLMAO!!

here

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-490835.0.html

Umm, Kobo, you've missed the bus FOR REAL! No pun intended but what does the gist of this article have to do with the price of tea in China? Why don't you actually defend your inane position on this state creation thing instead of letting some irrelevant article speak for you?

Okay, what is the article stating in summary? "Nigeria's population will hit 300 million in 3 decades. Country must focus on industrial sector and revamp agricultural sector.The country is endowed with agric resources and other potentials but we are not making good use of them.In U.S., Indonesia, Bangladesh and India, they take the population number serious, because it influences where industries should be, where infrastructure would be placed, not for the sake of politics but for the survival of the nation, etc, etc". Tell me something I don't already know!

I don't know what the article has to do with our discussion but let me try and tie it in. My question to you is this: If our current calibre of governors, local govt. chairmen and other state civil servants do not have the cojones, the will or the desire to develop their respective states (by investing in the industrial and agricultural sectors, for instance), how will adding to their ranks (by creating more states) solve the problem? We both know that a new crop of state governors will only compound our problems. Why? Nigerian politicians are all cut from the same cloth.

Please give me a straight answer.

It has all been SARCASM up to this point . . . Jeezzz

LMAO! What a clever way to say "you've backed me into a corner and I don't know what to say next. Em, what was my argument again?" Sarcasm, my ass. I know sarcasm when I see it.

Elaineh:

LMAO! What a clever way to say "you've backed me into a corner and I don't know what to say next. Em, what was my argument again?" Sarcasm, my backside. I know sarcasm when I see it.

Nah, you are seriously WRONG there. Fa -fa-fa -foul! You got some serious clues along the way from other posters but you conveniently ignored and continued  . . . I even added clues right in my posts for you but there was no stopping you there . .  . You felt you got an easy mark or something.

ROFLMAO!!

Elaineh:

LMAO! What a clever way to say "you've backed me into a corner and I don't know what to say next. Em, what was my argument again?" Sarcasm, my backside. I know sarcasm when I see it.

i doubt it

somebody ask you the question below before now on this thread, still you didnt get it, i also guess you were not reading other people responses to kobo

bk.babe97y:



Ermmm, Dude (or Dudette), I'm pretty sure u've heard of the term sarcasm sometime in this life, right?

Psssh, sure.

LMAO! OAM4J, I did actually miss bk.babe97y's post, anyhow, I clap for myself. I've just made a stellar argument for why we should not create new states!

^^lol I can see that, and if only you know kobo, you would have known his stand points/views here

@ topic

They can divide each state into two, but my Lagos should be left alone

Damn, I'm really quite good actually I should join the debate team.

So Kobojunkie, what are you saying? Have you been against the creation of new states all this while then? I wasn't looking for an easy target, I thought you were actually being serious. I was getting pretty frustrated with you actually, like what the hell, are there people that actually think this way? LOL!

Elaineh:

Damn, I'm really quite good actually I should join the debate team.

So Kobojunkie, what are you saying? Have you been against the creation of new states all this while then? I wasn't looking for an easy target, I thought you were actually being serious. I was getting pretty frustrated with you actually, like what the hell, are there people that actually think this way? LOL!

hahaha, pls dont get it twisted, you only find kobo on the side of the majority today, most times he is on his own, am sure pretty soon you will find him having opposing view from you for real, then you can test you debating skill with him, hope you will be able to stand him then.

lol . .  I have been at my sit working and reading posts from folks all day offering up the most ridiculous of ideas on how to solve Nigeria and grow our economy/market etc. I sent you to the other thread so you could read how someone you know offered me the talk on how since russia, Japan, europe pays their citizens to have more babies and "INCREASE tHEIR POPULATION", that increase in population in Nigeria will boost our markets and our economy and status . . .

Then there was the other person trying to say because there are tent cities in some parts of America, drug dealers and low income housing poor in America, Nigerian slums are justified. I also read on another thread that Abuja compares to London and NY . . then . . .  After all that, I decided to give "Blind Patrotism" . . . by throwing together some of that 'naughty' logic I get rammed with daily, I expected I would in no time be TRANSFORMED . . . You say you were getting irritated, I couldn't even keep  a straight face typing all that nonsense  . . .  lol

LMAO! Okay, you got me good Kobojunkie You just dodged a big bullet there though as I was about to name you Public Enemy #1 and target you for destruction and eventual elimination. As in, I was seriously thinking "wharrahell. Obtuse people like this need to be rooted out and eradicated from the Nairaland population." I even called Prof. Paddylo for backup. Lol!

Okay, bye bye and keep your wits about you until next time when I have real reason to call you out on your bs!

uumm . .  your professor is the one who came up with much of what I offered you . .  you sure say you no need another role model for there ?? ROFLMAO!!!

Isss a lie! Ay, Paddylo you dey fall my hand o!

Seriously, read the thread i posted a link for you to. That is my take on his posts on that thread.

Elaineh:

Isss a lie! Ay, Paddylo you dey fall my hand o!

why not go to this thread:  https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-490835.0.html and read for yourself

then you can decide if you will agree with kobo or your prof. who knows you might be lucky to start a real debate with kobo today  

see me see wahala oo . . @OAM4J, you wan make the guy give me Stellar trashing today, abi wetin?? ROFLMAO@

Btwn Paddy Lo and Sagatime, I dont know who deludes himself the most that he's intelligent! Two educated illiterates. . . .

Ok, whoever here is using style to flirt with kobojunkie, back off. I've paid the bride price.

But Ileke . . . Kobo is a female now. Kobo, abi no be so? Are you of the male or female orientation? Please show thyself. Why does your siggy say female?

Elaineh:

But Ileke . . . Kobo is a female now. Kobo, abi no be so? Are you of the male or female orientation? Please show thyself. Why does your siggy say female?

dont be deceived, kobo is she-male! 

Ileke-IdI:

Ok, whoever here is using style to flirt with kobojunkie, back off. I've paid the bride price.

haba! how many you alone wan carry, i go tell becomerich o and. . . and . . .

Elaineh:

But Ileke . . . Kobo is a female now. Kobo, abi no be so? Are you of the male or female orientation? Please show thyself. Why does your siggy say female?

Some things are better kept on the hush hush

@OAM4J
As many as I want. . . .even you sef

Kobojunkie:

see me see wahala oo . .  @OAM4J, you wan make the guy give me Stellar trashing today, abi wetin?? ROFLMAO@

i want real debate jor, better if someone can give you some Stellar trashing, like i use to give you   dont know why am not sleeping yet.

Ileke-IdI:

Some things are better kept on the hush hush

@OAM4J
As many as I want. . . .even you sef

Sorry, I dont share

Create Anioma state and zoned to the south east.
OR
form mergers between Ogun and Lagos or Ondo and Ekiti.
merge Rivers and Bayelsa
merge Nasarawa and Plateau
merge Sokoto, Zamfara and Kebbi states
Merge Gombe and Bauchi states.
When this is done, there will be a balance in the state creation exercises. The idea of some zones being 7, while some are 6 and another is just only 5 is stupidity at its highest.

Elaineh:

LMAO! Okay, you got me good Kobojunkie You just dodged a big bullet there though as I was about to name you Public Enemy #1 and target you for destruction and eventual elimination. As in, I was seriously thinking "wharrahell. Obtuse people like this need to be rooted out and eradicated from the Nairaland population." I even called Prof. Paddylo for backup. Lol!

Okay, bye bye and keep your wits about you until next time when I have real reason to call you out on your bs!

@Elaineh
Old girl if you had read her posts carefully you would have found she was being sarcastic. . Maybe next time you should pay more attention to your views and forget about so-called  shooting down the views of so-called "obtuse people".

Tensor, that's the problem. I was reading Kobojunkie's replies to me very carefully and not paying much attention to other people's posts so I didn't realize that she (he?) was just making a mockery of another thread. Easy enough mistake to make, I mean there are a lot of interesting views on this forum so it wasn't immediately apparent that she wasn't being for real. And as I mentioned earlier, I wasn't looking for an easy target or looking to shoot down obtuse views just for the heck of it. I thought she was being sincere and that we were engaging in a healthy debate.

^Well that's cool.

Creation of more states = Creation of more opportunities to embezzlement!!!