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Travel / Re: Bandits Attack Kaduna Airport, Stop A Lagos-Bound Aircraft. Kill One by 4Play(m): 8:57pm On Mar 26, 2022
BlueRayDick:
Apc rode to power on the premise that Jonathan was clueless in fighting Boko Haram terrorists.

Today we deal with the following security challenges under Apc government:

1. Boko Haram terrorists operating in the north east
2. ISWAP operaring in the north east
3. Fulani herdsmen operating in the north central and some parts of southwest
4. Bandits opering in the northwest
5. ESN/Unknown gunmen operating in the south east.

All of these operate freely without the federal goverment profering any feasible solution.

If by chance u end up voting for Apc in the next election, just know u are no better than a goat( ewure, akuya or ewu) that doesn't learn from experience.

The only new development is ESN as what you listed from 1 to 4 were all existing during GEJ's era but many Southerners didn't care or pay attention.

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Politics / Re: Sit At Home Order: 100% Of Anambra Citizens Support Gov Soludo! by 4Play(m): 9:02am On Mar 26, 2022
trutharena:
Lol

Hope you are not a Fulani supporter of APC efulefu

Do you think the Fulani care if you sit at home for the next 10 years? You need to explain how sit at home practically leads to the betterment of Igbos. You people always reason emotionally like a pregnant woman.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Breaking! Russia Downgrades It’s War Aims In Ukraine by 4Play(m): 10:33pm On Mar 25, 2022
Vicotex1:
BBC with lies and made up stories.
Russia aim from the onset was to demilitarise Ukraine, get rid of neo Nazi, and secure the Donbass region.
And they've done just exactly that.

This is the just word salad using nonsensical talking points widely circulated on the internet. How do you demilitarise a country that because of this war is constantly being replenished with weaponry by outside forces?

How is Donbass region secure? Maybe you should go visit or at least Putin can do a publicity visit as it's secure.

You have denazified a nation of 40million you claimed it's full of Nazis within 1 month? So all the Ukrainian Nazis are gone.

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Politics / Re: List Countries Invaded By Russia by 4Play(m): 9:03pm On Mar 24, 2022
duro4chang:
Thanks so much. Can we also have the list of countries invaded by the US?

Please explain to me: Is your reasoning that because the US invades, Russia should invade too?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Vladimir Putin's Defence Minister 'vanishes With Heart Problems' As War Stalls by 4Play(m): 10:45pm On Mar 23, 2022
Drenimarcus:


UK, US sources. Where is the russian, or neutral source? Thanks

Can you read Russian?

You just need to show us a recent public appearance by the missing defense official.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Twitter Mocks Russian Missile That Refused To Explode After Lodging In Kitchen by 4Play(m): 9:43am On Mar 21, 2022
princeeze1:

I have no issues with your point of view. It’s a public discuss, everyone must not share same sentiments. Even in the UN where a lot of countries voted under US pressures as revealed by India, pakistan and China, alot still did not play ball and choose to abstain. Everyone cannot say yes to an ideology no matter how appealing or not. The bolded is my grouse with your write up. The broke shaming, ethnic shaming, name calling of people simply for not towing your line of opinion is very wrong. Your are not in people’s pockets to assume they are broke for daring to disagree with your ideology. A lot of people having divergent views does not mean they are ethnic bigots or don’t have it going better for them than you and I. It has nothing to do with envy or are you richer than even FFK? Maturity is what makes accommodation for diverse opinions. We are not in an autocratic forum. It shows you would be worse than most governors that crackdown on the opposition we criticize here. Even in the US/Europe, there are people/politicians who criticize NATO for this crisis, are they also broke, envious, Muslims who are just angry about their state of affairs? By your assumptions, China and India who are among the top five economies are poor and envious for not aligning with the US.

It's not about personal but national success. No matter how personally successful you are, you ultimately see yourself as a Nigerian. As a person from a country associated with failure, your sense of national identity is associated with failure. What do a lot of people who have strong association with failure do? They find it easy to resent those associated with success.

It's not about NATO criticism, I too believe that NATO had no business expanding into Eastern Europe. Where I draw the line is the way Nigerians like you gloat about the killings in a war that has nothing to do with you. Have you not realised that even the Russian government describes the war as a special operation (they don't refer to it as war) and don't take responsibility for the civilian deaths because they think the Russian people won't approve of such deaths? If the Russian government thinks this way, why do Nigerians like you gloat about such deaths?

As for China and India being major economic powers, of course, they have populations in excess of 1bn each but if you combined their economies, it's still smaller than the US which has a fraction of their populations. So of course, people there easily resent Western powers because they view the West as more powerful and successful than them. Maybe you as a black man should relocate from the West to China and India since they are such a success.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Twitter Mocks Russian Missile That Refused To Explode After Lodging In Kitchen by 4Play(m): 12:38am On Mar 21, 2022
princeeze1:


Actually your write up is what reeks of frustrations. Kindly go through my posts carefully, you may discover I don’t even live in Nigeria even if my wife and kids are based there. Again, against your assumptions, I am from the SS and not from the Muslim north. Nothing wrong with being a northerner though. Incidentally I live in the west. I do not abhor these countries, I only point out their hypocrisy and double standards. Their lies and deceptions. Fani Kayode wrote a beautiful piece on this war and zelensky, it’s here on NL, I advise you to read it. SM cheers don’t win wars. No matter how much wishful thinking is wished in favour of Ukraine, it will be crushed yet zelensky is busy receiving applause from western assemblies. I noticed a worrying pattern of people trying to broke shame or ethnic shame people on social media due to having divergent views, ogbeni, that’s how you recognize very broke and morally depraved beings with bankrupt manners.

What has Western hypocrisy and double standards to do with the facts that people are being killed in a war of choice and you gloat about these killings like a mindless savage as if you have a personal stake in the dispute?

You abhor the Western world you reside in and applaud Russia, have you ever considered moving to Russia where they obviously don't exhibit any of the hypocrisy or double standards you so gleefully denounce?

This idea that Zelensky is to be condemned for resisting the invasion of his country or that it is even entirely up to him as to whether Ukraine should resist Russian invasion is absurd. Do you seriously think that if he died today Ukrainians will immediately surrender?

Also, who takes a morally degenerate wife beater like Fani Kayode seriously apart from Nigerians? As a government minister, he was a corrupt failure. In the West where you live, do people like him still have public platform to opine on things? You don't care for an international relations professional like Geoffrey Onyeama's view but it's Fani Kayode who you listen to. FFK is an idiot's idea of an intellectual and the fact you take him seriously speaks volumes of your limited intellect.

In my view, the popularity of anti-West diatribes amongst Nigerians is fueled by resentment/envy about how much better off they are compared to us. This is even more pronounced amongst people who live in Nigeria (not all) and is amplified amongst our Muslim fellow Nigerians who absorb a lot of anti-West hate mongering. Generally speaking, in any walk of life, people associated with failure envy/resent people associated with success. Nigerians are more likely to jump on the anti-West bandwagon as our country is a woeful failure.

Why is Nigeria a failure? Because it is full of people like you who do not value human life and accord charlatans like FFK respect and elevate him to positions of authority.

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Politics / Re: Any Young Nigerian That Vote For old men Next Year Isn't Patriotic by 4Play(m): 8:15pm On Mar 20, 2022
The fact that after 62 years of abject failure following independence, the likes of Tinubu and Atiku are serious contenders for president tells you a lot about how hopeless the country's prospects are.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Journalist Exposes The Truth About Ukraine. by 4Play(m): 8:08pm On Mar 20, 2022
Difrent:


If its that easy USA wont be in afghanistan for 20 years.....left iraq after 10 years....unable to topple Syrian regime 10 years down the line....cant stabilize Somalia almost 30 years later.
Even Biafra war lasted 30 whole months.

It took the US a few weeks to defeat and remove the Iraqi and Afghan governments. After this, the next phase is military occupation which takes years and proved failures.

Russia is yet to succeed in the first phase of the removal of the Ukrainian government. The chances of them being able to successfully occupy Ukraine in the next phase is very slim.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Is It True Zelensky Banned 11 Opposition Parties In Ukraine by 4Play(m): 7:59pm On Mar 20, 2022
Investigative:
I stumbled on this on Twitter

If Putin banned 11 opposition parties under the pretext of war, just as Zelensky has done today, Western media would be likening it to a Stalinesque purge.

Do you think Putin being in power for 22 years and members of the opposition being in prison might prompt a lot of criticism of the Putin regime?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Twitter Mocks Russian Missile That Refused To Explode After Lodging In Kitchen by 4Play(m): 7:50pm On Mar 20, 2022
princeeze1:
Very fake!!! The ceiling puncture is much smaller than the size of the missile. Even if a missile that size did not explode, passing through that ceiling would have totally brought down the ceiling by sheer kinetic energy.

No amount of social media mockery or Ukrainian media victory will change the dynamics on ground. Ukraine is being destroyed and decimated in reality, even the lying bbc could not hide the fact mauripol has been totally destroyed, but on the media, we know Russian weapons are so bad that Ukraine has killed 12000 soldiers.

Seeing these kind of bitter anti-west posts, I have a theory. A lot of Nigerians gloating in the slaughter of women and children in Ukraine like the stereotypical "African savage" are often based in Nigeria. This must be the frustration of living in a hellish country, whilst you think the West is a success story to be resented. Because you are confronted by the failure of the country you are from, you respond with bitterness to those parts of the world that you think represent success.

That's the only explanation I can see as apart from Naija Muslims who automatically hate the West because the Arab world told them to, other Nigerians' bitterness stems from resentment when they compare status to the Western world.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Putin Agrees To Meet Zelensky In Person For Peace Talks by 4Play(m): 6:48pm On Mar 20, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
Putin the main weakling..I thought his supporters on here said he ain't gonna meet with zelensky the warrior?

Is Putin this weak...why is he this hilarious..I thought he was bent on no peace talk..
Meet or not.. Ukraine won't give in to your petty order..

By the way why is Putin yet to capture the great kyiv? grin grin grin grin
It's almost a month now..I thought his puppets said it's gonna take the Russia army 48hrs? cheesy cheesy wink

Modified:just the way I predicted.. Putin puppet are already crying on my mention.. clueless set of beings.. grin cheesy
Why being emotional much huh?



The Russian armed forces might take control of Kiev, Ukraine's capital, within 96 hours, Newsweek reported on Thursday, citing US and Ukrainian sources.

Russian Defense Ministry spokesperson Igor Konashenkov said earlier in the day that Russian troops had advanced toward Kherson and cleared the North Crimean Canal, restoring water flow to the Crimean Peninsula.
Foreign Affairs / Re: U.S Increases Interest Rates, Signals Aggressive Battle Against Inflation by 4Play(m): 10:09pm On Mar 16, 2022
The sort of ignorance it takes to link this to Ukraine is baffling. Inflation has been heating up since covid and the US had committed to interest rate increases late last year:

Americans who have been to the grocery store lately or started their holiday shopping may have noticed that consumer prices have spiked. The annual rate of inflation in the United States hit 6.2% in October 2021, the highest in more than three decades, as measured by the Consumer Price Index (CPI). Other inflation metrics also have shown significant increases in recent months, though not to the same extent as the CPI.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/11/24/inflation-has-risen-around-the-world-but-the-u-s-has-seen-one-of-the-biggest-increases/

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Politics / Re: Jonathan Vs Buhari: What Has Changed? by 4Play(m): 10:21am On Mar 16, 2022
Protests are more likely where there is hope for change otherwise why protest? With Buhari, Nigerians are facing a situation of utter hopelessness.

I also think many "protesters" from that era have been so completely disproven in their arguments that they see no reason to rally themselves for any new protests.

A lot of the agitators from 2012 are linked to the present government so can't protest.

Multiple reasons.

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Politics / Re: Buhari & I Haven't Had Any Dispute In 7 Years Despite Our Religions- Osinbajo by 4Play(m): 1:32pm On Mar 13, 2022
You shouldn't expect him to say anything else but considering all the policy misteps by the Buhari government, it's hardly a laudable thing to claim not to have any disagreement with Buhari.

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Politics / Re: The Story That Didn't Hug The Headlines By Femi Adesina by 4Play(m): 1:20pm On Mar 13, 2022
The main reason is the displacement of Shekau's Boko Haram by Islamic State (ISIS). Boko Haram's modus operandi was mass slaughter of civilians which didn't go down well with other jihadists.

That the operation against Shekau was launched on the direct orders of the leadership of Isis in the Middle East, which is concerned by Boko Haram’s indiscriminate targeting of “believers”, underlines the continuing global reach of the group through its affiliates and the possibility of further expansion in Africa.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/07/boko-haram-leader-abubakar-shekau-killed-on-direct-orders-of-islamic-state

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by 4Play(m): 4:27pm On Mar 05, 2022
seunny4lif:
You think having 10 black person in the government means the racism is not massive.
South Africa are ruled by black people but those does it change that same black People are been oppressed in their own land by white and South Africans is same level like in Germany
I bet you have never been to South Africa before or meets South Africans

So on what basis are you equating racism blacks experience in Russia to that experienced in the West?

Why aren't our people working there in Russia, in positions of authority and in good jobs as you have in places like the UK and Ireland. The problem is that you are familiar with the West because a lot of our people are there working and studying. You are less familiar with Eastern Europe and Russia in particular as blacks are relatively scarce in these parts. But blacks are scarce for good reason, it's a hostile environment and it's more difficult (compared to the West) to settle there as a non-white person coming from a place like Africa.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by 4Play(m): 4:09pm On Mar 05, 2022
seunny4lif:
It’s like you don’t understand me
My guy was beaten in Dublin for been black
Go to Ballymum and Fingas
They will paint your house with paint saying go back to Africa you Nigga
Get beating

It's like saying there is corruption in Nigeria and there is same in the UK so there is no difference. You can experience corruption in the UK but the overall levels are lower than Nigeria.

There is racism in Ireland and the UK but it's false to claim it's same level as being non-white in Russia. Ireland even had a non-white PM and for all the pro-Russia noisemaking, I don't see us lining up to go work and live in Russia

I think this article encapsulates it:

She said she does not want to have children in Russia because she does not want them to face bullying and harassment.

“I don’t feel that safe here. I’m looking into emigration to Western Europe and I feel like I will eventually have to do this because I want to feel comfortable in the country where I live […] and be able to raise children in safety,” Tunkara said.


https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2020/6/26/does-russia-need-a-black-lives-matter-movement

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by 4Play(m): 3:57pm On Mar 05, 2022
Techsupport:


No worries. This will not turn into a dick measuring contest but hey you win that one. You have seen way more places.
I hope you live in Russia. I will love to run into you one day.

The person you are arguing is not familiar with Russia which is why he is so passionately pro-Russia.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Why Putin Is Hated Today & Not The Actual Mass Murderers Of The West? by 4Play(m): 2:21pm On Mar 04, 2022
Putinbot logic: Because the West is responsible for deaths and destruction in the past, Putin should not be criticized for deaths and destruction today.

This is also known as "whatabout" reasoning. Attempts to defend an indefensible conduct by deflecting to other indefensible conducts.

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Politics / Re: Nnewichi, Anambra State In Igboland (video) by 4Play(m): 1:13pm On Mar 04, 2022
Economic development in Anambra will stall if we don't tackle the unknown gunmen menace.

There is need for improved governance at the Federal level (replace the inept and bigoted Buhari govt) and for the people to rally round tackling insecurity.

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Politics / Re: Ukrainian, Polish Police Threaten To Shoot Unarmed African Students (Videos) by 4Play(m): 1:09pm On Feb 27, 2022
Biafran4life:
I now see why you are in every thread that has to do with Ukraine.You go about pointing fingers at Putin.You can't see how useless Ukraine government is. Just imagine what the Russia minority in Ukraine will be going through because they want out.You are pathetic.So in a war zone you decide to pay reference to color of skin instead of humanity. You are worst than the Putin you see as devil.

Why are people fleeing to the border if not because of Putin's murderous military campaign? If you are saying we should support Russia because of anti-black racism in Ukraine, do you seriously think anti-black racism isn't a thing in Russia?

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Investment / Re: Us Stocks Pick Alert by 4Play(m): 9:54am On Jan 26, 2022
oshdot:


I totally agree with you, I mean any serious long term investor will always look to get MSFT, GOOG, and FB at great prices, but then my present concerns with large cap tech companies is that they are all currently trading at outrageous earnings multiples. In short they have all risen too much, and too fast. Got in on AMZN recently though, and I am looking to add FB, MSFT, and more of NVDA soon, but not yet grin.

Was invested in ETSY up until the first trading days of the year, but then the moment it broke through the 200MA on the daily chart I sold off the shares, and I am glad I did. Looking to get back in soon though as it's a company I see myself holding for the long term.

Big cap tech - MSFT, FB, APPLE, NVDA, GOOG - are all relatively reliable and their valuations aren't excessive judged by price to earnings ratios. AMZN is also good but I feel like it got a pandemic boost due to online shopping. Their cloud division remains a strong long-term growth driver but I feel MSFT's Azure cloud offers strong competition too

The other names I mentioned - Pinterest, Etsy, Gentherm, Finwise - are all very high risk so won't recommend them to anyone. That being said, I think Etsy has good long term prospects due to "network effects." More buyers on the platform attract more sellers which in turn attracts more buyers....Its valuation is now more reasonable in the $140 area compared to when it was +$300.

I am already looking to sell my Pinterest Holdings due to reports yesterday that 7 senior executives left the company in the last few weeks!

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Investment / Re: Us Stocks Pick Alert by 4Play(m): 6:45am On Jan 25, 2022
sayo147:
Mods pls help us ....... this thread is slowly getting under

This thread was always going to go "under" as the stock market doesn't in the long run work the way people wanted: a means to make a quick buck.

Stocks generally reward patience, long term outlook, risk management, and diligent research. Most people, including me, are better off investing in indexes anyway.

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Investment / Re: Us Stocks Pick Alert by 4Play(m): 6:40am On Jan 25, 2022
oshdot:
Wheeew.... it's so hard to find value play in the current market conditions, but then the following stocks are definitely looking like a bargain if you are an investor with long term horizon:

1. Disney, DIS
2. Mercadolibre, MELI
3. PayPal, PYPL
4. Corsair Gaming, CRSR
5. Alibaba, BABA

Remember, time spent in the market always beats time spent timing the market. So if you are in for long term, the above listed stocks are trading at great prices.

NB: The above is my personal opinion, not investment advice.


Stocks are much more investable than they were last year as the prices have come down. Worth taking a look at the major names: Microsoft (MSFT), Alphabet (GOOG), and Meta/Facebook (FB).

I added Gentherm (THRM) and Pinterest (PINS) to my stock portfolio (my main funds remain in indexes). I also intend to add to Xpel and Lam Research (LRCX). Still eyeing Finwise Bancorp (FINW) and Etsy.

No idea where these are going in the next few months. With geo-political tensions, interest rate being increased and liquidity being drained by the Federal Reserves, and this being an election year, stocks can go down further. But I think they are reasonably priced for the next few years.

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Investment / Re: Us Stocks Pick Alert by 4Play(m): 11:24pm On Jan 12, 2022
Topson88:



Thanks for your post.

Am still trying to wrap my head around dividend stocks.

For example for GIS which yield is about 3percent. Does that mean if i invest 1000 dollars, i will get around 30 dollars as dividend for a whole year cry ?

Yok wrote a beautiful post about REITs which includes Orchid capital with an excellent yield of 15% but my fear like most dividend stock is that the stock price has gradually fallen from about 15 dollars to 4.64.

Please why do people invest in dividend stocks when the yields are either small or the stock price gradually reduce to cause investors a loss rather than profit?

I wrote a long reply to this but got banned by the spambot.

In a nutshell, you will get $30 in a year for your $1,000.00 if the yield is 3%. The reason for investing is for the cashflow given how difficult it is to find suitable alternatives and low interest/savings rates you get in the Western world. But it's more suitable if you have large capital in the first place.

The higher the yield, the more likely it's unsustainable as the dividend will be cut. If you are looking for a short-term play with high yields, try Zim Integrated Shipping Services (Zim) where the yield for this year will be +20% if you include special dividend.

PS: When I initially typed this reply before the spambot got in the way Zim's share price was lower.

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Investment / Re: Us Stocks Pick Alert by 4Play(m): 11:27am On Jan 08, 2022
Topson88:
Hì guys, I plan to diversify into an investment with little or no correlation with stocks, REIT comes to mind.
please kindly suggest good UK or US REIT for cash flow. Thanks shocked


Silentone sent you a good response. I like Simon Property Group (SPG) from his list.

If you intend to hold for a few years, I will also recommend Medical Properties Trust (MPW) who lease out medical facilities like hospitals. Their dividend yield is circa 4.8%.

Another good long-term hold is Digital Realty Trust (DLR) who lease out data centres. However, this has a high multiple (PE ratio) which is likely to contract in the current monetary policy environment.

If you are looking for strong/steady companies that might withstand a bear market, you could also look beyond REITs for old "boring" stocks like General Mills (GIS) or Pepsi (PEP). They're not going to generate exciting growth numbers but they allow for capital preservation with some decent dividend yields.

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Politics / Re: 2023: South West Leaders Should Support Tinubu For The Sake Of Yoruba Unity -ABO by 4Play(m): 1:14pm On Nov 11, 2021
DubaiLandLord1:
When Tinubu became the Governor of Lagos in 1999, what is Lagos IGR? What is Lagos IGR between 1990 and 1998? Lagos was totally abandoned in the 90's by the military

Tinubu ruled Lagos from 1998-2007. Any other thing you dey talk nah foolish and senseless talk.

Tinubu can't force Fashola in building a world class hospital in Lagos, neither could he have force Ambode and Sanwo olu.

How many world class hospital have your state government built sef? Or your state is one of the uselses and backward states in Nigeria

Nigerian economy expanded rapidly from 1999 up until 2015 and with it tax revenue. See attached PDF showing FG's non-oil tax revenue went up from circa N200bn in 1999 to N1.2 trillion in 2007. So as the governor of a state that was already the commercial capital of a rapidly growing Nigerian economy, he was bound to oversee fast rising tax revenues. He also had personal incentives to raise those revenues, which became a major source of his personal wealth, as he wasn't getting on with Abuja. It's not like as if he used those revenues to expand healthcare access or education access in a commensurate fashion.

If Tinubu was merely a military governor of Lagos from 1992 to 1999, the story would have been entirely different as there would neither be the advantageous economic background or the personal incentive to raise tax revenues.

Once again, I think this IGR focus is a red herring. The main point of taxes is to provide public services. Has there been much increase in public services in Lagos - water, roads, schools, hospitals, housing - since the much touted IGR increase?

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Politics / Re: Only In Nigeria Can A Former Dictator Become President by 4Play(m): 12:39pm On Nov 11, 2021
IgweOfNnewi:
Hypocrisy, if Ojukwu had become, you people wouldn't have said that, the man that rejected aids and food from foreign nations just because of his callousness and stupidity

Example of what we are talking about. Unable to defend Buhari on his merits, he has to invoke the "Ibo" monster. Buhari is a bad choice for President and this judgement can be arrived at without excluding the judgement that Ojukwu made idiotic decisions.

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Politics / Re: Only In Nigeria Can A Former Dictator Become President by 4Play(m): 12:34pm On Nov 11, 2021
backbencher:


I'm not missing the point.

The fact is, democracy means a lot of work. It means going out and showing face and making oneself known. Not ranting online, or complaining and complaining about how bad things are....while doing nothing about it.

We have Buharis running us, and a lot of unimaginative people running over us because the people with vision and purpose that could change this country are all ranting online...instead of joining a party and changing things from within.

And yea, politics is personality driven, even in the developed countries.(Trump and before him the Kennedys in the USA for example). Plus, Nigerians themselves don't do policy. For instance, GEJ tried to remove fuel subsidy. That's a policy change...and guess how Nigerians responded? El rUFAI tried to remove deadwood school teachers...a policy change...and guess how that went down.?

All in all, power belongs to the hardworking...and right now the people who are ruling us are the ones who worked hard for it. (And yes, it happens in other countries....Weah of Liberia spent over ten years...including even going back to school to get some qualifications before he became president of Liberia)

This is like answering the question: why do Nigerians fall for things like MMM Mavrodi pyramid scheme or tithe-seeking prosperity preachers by answering that fraudsters/charlatans put in a lot of work in their deception campaigns.

I have no doubt that inept politicians like Buhari put in a lot of hard work but I suspect they do so with the reasonable prospect that the Nigerian populace will choose them over a vastly more competent alternative.

There are plenty of politically active Nigerians and Buhari and GEJ were not the only choices on the ballot in 2015 but like the Mavrodi investment scam, the incompetence is almost like a magnet for the populace.

As for Trump, his personality played a role but at the very least his anti-immigration policies (as loathsome as they are) were his distinguishing factor and the source of his support in the GOP primaries. Policies work hand in hand with personality in the advanced democracies, in Nigeria they have almost zero significance. And when you highlight the reactions to sensible policy proposals like the removal of fuel subsidy you vindicate my point: Nigerian politics suffers from the failure of the educated class to get to grips with policy debates and the over reliance on personality to the exclusion of policy.

We are both saying that Nigerians are to blame but I am emphasizing that it's not due to lack of participation in politics from good competent persons but a disinterest/ignorance of competence by the populace at large and over reliance on personality judgements often based on religious/ethnic sentiments.

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Politics / Re: Only In Nigeria Can A Former Dictator Become President by 4Play(m): 12:08pm On Nov 11, 2021
backbencher:
Yes, because most people don't realize that democracy is hard work.

We could have had a younger Nigerian as leader right now, but most of us younglings would rather focus on other things rather than politics.

I don't like Buhari...but he is president because right from day 1 of this democracy, he made sure he was in the public eye, campaigned, risked losing elections, built a large support base, made alliances, etc etc. It took him some 14 years, but it paid off.

But most of us won't take the risk to go into politics. We cry that the election is rigged anyway, or Nigerians are too dull to vote for us, or that we don't have enough power...etc etc. Meanwhile, the old men do what we youngsters should be doing. And we youngsters back them

(Lord knows how many times I have told people to vote for parties other than PDP or APC, and Nigerians reply by saying that other parties are weak. Meanwhile, we groan under APC and on election day...vote for APC. )

Until you and I and anyone commenting on this thread is ready to do more than just rant online...we won't see any change in the status quo. Success belongs to hardworking people, not to lazy people.

I feel like you are missing the point. Why would a hopelessly inept person attract the support of a supposedly reasonable or educated populace? Of course, he put himself out there in the public's mind by campaigning and attempting to build a support base but why would anyone listening to him in say 2014 for instance think he knew how to improve this country?

Ranting online is part of the democratic debate that shapes public thinking on the viability of a candidate for leadership so it isn't something to be dismissed as irrelevant. The problem is that the online ranting in the lead up to 2015 had a significant pro-Buhari leaning and it's hard to grasp now, as it was then, why the often educated online Buhari supporters thought he was a capable person.

My diagnosis is that Nigerian politics is a personality-driven endeavor with little or no attention paid to policy making, the real source of change and development. People don't ask what each candidate will do differently, they instead make judgements about the type of person they like often drawing from their ethnic or religious biases. That's somewhat true of politics in any part of the world but it is even more so in Africa.

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