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Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by Onlytruth(m): 11:26pm On Aug 21, 2010
[size=16pt]Don’t contest 2011 election, Okogie advises Jonathan[/size]

By ETOP EKANEM

The Archbishop of Metropolitan See of Lagos, Anthony Cardinal Okogie, has told President Goodluck Jonathan to jettison any plan to contest next year’s election. He wants the President to concentrate instead on stabilising the nation.

He spoke at the opening of the 1st Africa/Madagascar Divine Mercy International Congress & 7th Divine Mercy National Conference at the Marian Shrine, St Agnes Catholic Church, Maryland, Lagos, Friday with the theme: “Divine Mercy, The Greatest Attribute of God.”.

According to Okogie, President Jonathan should focus on two or three of the 7-point agenda propounded by his predecessor, the late Alhaji Umaru Yar’Adua, adding: “The president has not even sat down and they are saying he must contest, He has barely a year to go. He should look at the 7-point agenda, there are two or three things he can do, concentrate on that. Then sit back and hear what the populace would say, after that he can now come in and contest. As it is now, even if he gets into the Presidency, the same people who are calling on him to contest will destroy him.”

He, however, said if Jonathan would excel in the areas of education and power generation, the president should not bother to campaign because the citizenry would vote for him overwhelmingly.

On the 50th Independence celebration, the Cardinal said there was nothing to celebrate and declared that the amount earmarked for the celebration should have been channeled into areas like education, Niger Delta, power generation which are begging for attention.

In his keynote address, the Catholic Archbishop of Minna, Most Rev Martin Igwe Uzoukwu and National Promoter of the Divine Mercy Devotion in Nigeria said Nigerians needed to totally submit themselves and the nation to the mercy of God, adding: “We need to open up ourselves to the flow of the divine mercy, so that our nation, which has been miraculously sustained by God’s mercy, will take its divinely planned course to proper nationhood.”

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/08/21/dont-contest-2011-election-okogie-advises-jonathan/
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by Ofemmanu: 11:33pm On Aug 21, 2010
^^^^^
African politicians rarely tread this kind of path opined by Arch Okogie . .

Jonathan and his camp has already concluded plans on how to rig the election.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by Onlytruth(m): 11:41pm On Aug 21, 2010
Yoruba:

^^^^^
African politicians rarely tread this kind of path opined by Arch Okogie . .

Jonathan and his camp has already concluded plans on how to rig the election.

Very possible. In which case he should be ready to "conquer" his opponents. I could be wrong, but the day Aliyu Gusau resigned from his position as national security adviser was the day I realized that the north is serious with reclaiming the presidency.

Jonathan is not Obasanjo, and must be advised so.

There are many things an Obasanjo can get away with which Jonathan cannot. So, he should not rig the elections. Already, some powers have started to call on him to stick to the rule.

The last thing Nigeria can survive now is rigging.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by redsun(m): 11:53pm On Aug 21, 2010
African politicians are retarded monsters,what baffles me is why suppose sane and capable people put up with them.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by bkbabe97y(m): 3:12am On Aug 22, 2010
Yoruba:

Igbos do not need the advise of you Hispanic bastar/d LovePeddler . . .

You have to spend more time catering for your bastar/d child.

"I have resolved not to delve to the ocean depths of intellectual mediocrity constantly being swum in, fish-like, by Biafrans with fish-brains. Instead, I have taken to killing them whenever they step on land, neither with the bayonet, nor with swords, but with superior thinking, sound arguments, and undeniable facts"- - - - BKBABE97Y (The Battle of Naira Land--- 2010)
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by Ofemmanu: 6:07am On Aug 22, 2010
bk.babe97y:

"I have resolved not to delve to the ocean depths of intellectual mediocrity constantly being swum in, fish-like, by Biafrans with fish-brains. Instead, I have taken to killing them whenever they step on land, neither with the bayonet, nor with swords, but with superior thinking, sound arguments, and undeniable facts"- - - - BKBABE97Y (The Battle of Naira Land--- 2010)

Igbos do not need the advise of you Hispanic imbe.cilic bastar/d LovePeddler . . .

You have to spend more time catering for your bastar/d child. . . . . . Fu4cking dunce!!!
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by kcjazz(m): 6:49am On Aug 22, 2010
Ndigbo what is that we want from Nigeria? Today it is Biafra, tomorrow it is 2015 Presidency. Maybe I am naive as to our political history but IBB leaving in 2015 is a joke. Didn't he promise to bring Nigeria to democracy after the coup? And when he had the chance what did he do?

To Obinna Uzoh, no sorry thanks, is this for another political relevance thing, you can't be governor of Anambra state in 2011, focus on your business.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by chyz(m): 7:36am On Aug 22, 2010
bk.babe97y:

You seemed to me a reasonable dude, but now, I cant call it. . . . But thats neither here nor there, and is not even the issue at hand. Why cant you see that these are the antics of a dying, desperate and drowning man? Isnt there supposed to be an election? So, how can he now "promise" the Presidency, of all posts, to a certain tribe?! How is that possible? Doesnt that smirk of "dictatorship"? Doesnt that show that even if he (miraculously) became President that he would go back to his prior days where history has shown he ruled with absolute tyranny? Doesnt this show how gullible, st.up.id, and foolish he thinks Ibos really are? ( I say this without disrespect).

I feel that but you gotta look at it this way. GJ has showed no signs of leadership, he as a president allowed an organization(FIFA) to run his country and tell him what he could and could not do. Since he entered presidency he has not done anything for we the niger-deltans or Igbos. He appointed all of the top shops to northerners and he's basically took almost all of the Igbos out of the Public Eye.Has you ever asked yourself why he gave himself the minister of power then later on turn it around and give it to an Igbo person.What stopped him from giving it to the guy all along?It seems like hes already set up what he needed to to loot money and possibly use the Igbo guy as a deflection. He's been really shady lately and has only made moves such as sacks to save his tail.He honored all of the most corrupt people in nigeria and dines with them.

GJ has no track record, although im not saying I wouldnt support him but time is running out and he's had nothing to show for it. Also, with the new state promise if it is true that he will be announcing them on Oct.1st, independence day and he makes Anioma State, its good for the Igbos, but most will only see it as him doing that to gain Igbo votes and he will not get my vote. Believe me were not choosing IBB at this moment to still leave room for jonathan to prove himself. As for as military rule in nigeria that IBB had before, he cant try it .every part of the country will fight the army men and try to kill IBB.He has no choice but to work under a democracy.

As far as trust GJ has lost the trust of the igbos.He seems like a snake theres an saying that Africans have "I'd rather live with a murderer than a thief because at least you know what to expect from the murderer". Although IBB is a thief as GJ, The thief(GJ) and the murderer(IBB).
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by Onlytruth(m): 8:23am On Aug 22, 2010
[size=16pt]Why I Conferred With Igbo Leaders, By IBB [/size]

Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:00   From Martins Oloja (Abuja Bureau Chief)

FORMER Military President, General Ibrahim Badamasi Babangida, has explained the significance of the ethnic card he reportedly played recently with a strategic meeting with some Igbo leaders.

He had declared at the widely advertised parley that he would run for only one term, if elected, and leave the presidency for the Southeast zone in 2015.

Babangida, who on Sunday, August 15, declared his intention to contest the 2011 presidential election against President Goodluck Jonathan, spoke exclusively to The Guardian editors in his Hilltop expansive home in Minna, last Wednesday.

According to him, he organised the forum with the Igbo leaders because he was fully persuaded that the pang of the Civil War the Igbo nation had with the Federal Government over 40 years ago would not be healed “unless a President of Igbo extraction is elected in Nigeria.”

He also said that “only Abiola and his family” deserve an apology over the annulment of the June 12, 1993 presidential election won by the head of the family, Chief MKO Abiola.

Babangida, as head of the military government in power in 1993, annulled the election that was adjudged the freest and fairest in Nigeria’s history till date.

Many Nigerians are up in arms against Babangida’s bid for the presidency, ostensibly on the strength of the voided June 12, which revalidation led to the death of many Nigerians including Chief Abiola and his wife, Kudirat.

On his intentions for playing such an ethnic card with Igbo leaders in a nation struggling to enhance its national outlook, Babangida said:

“I hope you know that everybody (presidential aspirants) is following me now? There are two or three now who say that they would run for one term, including even some PDP aspirants. So, at least I am happy.

“I am the originator of the four-year- one-term slogan. The fact of the Nigerian situation is that there is no way — you better believe it — there is no way you will run this country without jaw-jawing with other parts of the country. That is the fact of the Nigerian political life.

“I became interested in the Southeast for only one reason: an imminent Igbo presidency. That puts end to the Nigerian Civil War. It is finished.”

He continued: “You know why we went to the Civil War. I want Nigeria to go as one country that fought a civil war in less than 50 years, the people that fought and settled so much that even one of the contestants is a president of this country.

“You can never have anything that would demonstrate that the Civil War is closed if you don’t have an Igbo man as the president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.”

In the same vein, General Babangida said in an emotion-laden moment that despite the cacophony of voices on the 17-year-old June 12 saga, he believes that, indeed, the Abiola family deserves an apology for the dark episode he has (Babangida) taken responsibility for.

On what he would say to voters on the Okigbo Panel report, the death of Dele Giwa, Abiola and June 12, Babangida said:

“The good thing is that 90 percent of the population has no clue about what you and I are talking about Okigbo, about Dele Giwa. 90 per cent of Nigerians haven’t heard these things at all. They don’t know what they are about.

“It is just about okay. They said I killed Dele Giwa. For June 12, I accept collective responsibility for that. I wasn’t on seat when Abiola died but if there is anybody who deserved a personal apology, it was Abiola and members of his family.”

Babangida, who fielded questions for two hours despite the fasting period in the early hours of Wednesday, last week, also clarified his position on the reported reliance on Southwest for supports for his presidential bid.

He disclosed that he only said because of the sophistication of the Southwest political leaders and elite, it would be easy for them to appreciate all the complications that opponents may want to use against him in these times.

His words: “I saw the report that, ‘IBB Relies on South West.’ Everybody, who wants to win election, would rely on the Southwest, would rely South-South, Southeast, North Central (where I am); would rely on Northwest and so on. This is the beauty of this game.

“What I said, we were talking about June 12, the Southwest, as far as politics is concerned, are more sophisticated than us. The reasons are not far-fetched. They were earlier in contact with civilisation,  So, I will give them that in terms of sophistication.

“And because they are sophisticated politically, they will not get bogged down by mundane arguments about June 12. Their level of education, their level of politics transcends June 12.

“They know in politics, nothing is permanent; they know in politics, somebody matches you round, somebody matches back. It must be accepted. It must be corrected and the country moves on. I think they have the (political) sophistication. This was what I was trying to say.”

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20846:why-i-conferred-with-igbo-leaders-by-ibb&catid=1:national&Itemid=559
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by bkbabe97y(m): 9:13am On Aug 22, 2010
Yoruba:

Igbos do not need the advise of you Hispanic imbe.cilic bastar/d LovePeddler . . .

You have to spend more time catering for your bastar/d child. . . . . . Fu4cking dunce!!!

From MENTALgong, to MENTALgong1, to MENTALgong 2 all the waaaay to MENTALgong 1gazillion. . . . now its Yoruba. . . . hahahahahaha. lol. My work here is almost complete. Now, its back to being intellectual for me! grin
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by chyz(m): 9:44am On Aug 22, 2010
hmmm. this is why i say neither jonathan nor IBB has Igbo votes.although IBB has the upper hand at this moment. Speaking about this whole zoning thing, if zoning is a PDP arrangement but IBB isnt in PDP then he doesnt have to agree with it so come 2015 he can just use the excuse that he is not in PDP so he has the right to run for another term. Nigeria is a failure.I can see this country avoiding war.

Im not liking the comment about the civil war and him wanting an Igbo president.If that was the truth he would have backed Pat Utomi heavily during the 2007 elections.He definitely lost points off that one. Igbos should make it an requirement for IBB to join PDP if he wants our votes so that there wont be any problems later.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by excanny: 10:19am On Aug 22, 2010
@chyz

What we have here is a case of 2 dubious personalities- GJ and IBB.

One has a promise, which makes him indebted, the other has nothing binding him.

Which is better? I'll rather go for a devil i know than an angel i dont know. I agree with you that IBB must come to PDP to make his agreements more binding.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by Onlytruth(m): 4:45pm On Aug 22, 2010
chyz:

hmmm. this is why i say neither jonathan nor IBB has Igbo votes.although IBB has the upper hand at this moment. Speaking about this whole zoning thing, if zoning is a PDP arrangement but IBB isnt in PDP then he doesnt have to agree with it so come 2015 he can just use the excuse that he is not in PDP so he has the right to run for another term. Nigeria is a failure.I can see this country avoiding war.

Im not liking the comment about the civil war and him wanting an Igbo president.If that was the truth he would have backed Pat Utomi heavily during the 2007 elections.He definitely lost points off that one. Igbos should make it an requirement for IBB to join PDP if he wants our votes so that there wont be any problems later.

Unless I'm mistaken, IBB is in PDP. I think his political planners are only reserving the option to run on another party's ticket (though I doubt that IBB would do that, he is too calculating undecided). He is pushing ahead to win the PDP primaries, and if he succeeds, the rest will fall in place.

Having said that, I believe that Ndigbo should have a laser-like focus on Nigeria's presidency in 2015. For that reason alone, it is good that Igbos are largely staying away from next year's race.

It is time we know whether we should continue with Nigeria or not. By 2015, if the owners of Nigeria continue in their marginalizing games, we will then resurrect Biafra with all force and ferocity. cool And I will be waiting for that Igboman who tells me that we should stay in Nigeria. undecided

IBB remains the only Northerner who has openly committed to closing that leadership gap in Nigeria. Ndigbo are a majority tribe (if not THE majority tribe) in Nigeria. We have no business playing second fiddle to anybody.

If another northerner comes up with similar position, and is more likely to win, we would switch to that candidate ( no hard feelings). That is politics. cool

We should continue to rally round that 2015 presidency. It should remain our single goal. Nobody should tell us anything else about it.

It is time we find out whether we are Nigerians or not.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by sjeezy8: 5:15pm On Aug 22, 2010
The MAIN reason why there hasnt been an igbo president ELECTED YET OR EVEN THOUGHT OF [b]IS BECAUSE IGBOS ARE 100% CHRISTIAN-[/b]

There are 14-16 islamic states that will vote for a muslim over a christian- If theres any support that igbo will need for a presidency its among the Middle belt and  SW and SS.

Automatically - Those 14-16 Islamic states- will vote for a muslim. The Only states that dont vote based on religion are the states in the SW and middle belt-

Igbo own Nigeria just as any ethnic group- But Im telling you that In my years of living I have never met a northern muslim say they will vote for a christian. esp muslims in SHARIA STATES.

Obj ONLY won- 1999- because he was going against another yoruba- He would have LOST against a northerner, In 2003 the North didnt vote for OBJ They voted for BUHARI AND ATIKU- OBJ won because votes were rigged in the South.

and Northerners usually dont rig election esp for a southern christian- They wont do it.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by Onlytruth(m): 5:54pm On Aug 22, 2010
sjeezy8:

The MAIN reason why there hasnt been an igbo president ELECTED YET OR EVEN THOUGHT OF [b]IS BECAUSE IGBOS ARE 100% CHRISTIAN-[/b]

There are 14-16 islamic states that will vote for a muslim over a christian- If theres any support that igbo will need for a presidency its among the Middle belt and  SW and SS.

Automatically - Those 14-16 Islamic states- will vote for a muslim. The Only states that dont vote based on religion are the states in the SW and middle belt-

Igbo own Nigeria just as any ethnic group- But Im telling you that In my years of living I have never met a northern muslim say they will vote for a christian. esp muslims in SHARIA STATES.

Obj ONLY won- 1999- because he was going against another yoruba- He would have LOST against a northerner, In 2003 the North didnt vote for OBJ They voted for BUHARI AND ATIKU- OBJ won because votes were rigged in the South.

and Northerners usually dont rig election esp for a southern christian- They wont do it.

So how come Obasanjo who is a christian ruled Nigeria for a total of 11 years? That is part of why the PDP has zoning! You see?

More and more Igbos are beginning to come to this realization.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by sjeezy8: 5:59pm On Aug 22, 2010
Onlytruth:

So how come Obasanjo who is a christian ruled Nigeria for a total of 11 years? That is part of why the PDP has zoning! You see?

More and more Igbos are beginning to come to this realization.


No its not because Obj didnt win any election EXCEPT 1999- thats because he was against another yoruba, 2003 Obj was rigged in the south, what helped him was that he was incumbent.

2003- Northerners didnt vote for OBJ- They voted for Atiku and Buhari
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by bkbabe97y(m): 6:07pm On Aug 22, 2010
sjeezy8:

The MAIN reason why there hasnt been an igbo president ELECTED YET OR EVEN THOUGHT OF [b]IS BECAUSE IGBOS ARE 100% CHRISTIAN-[/b]



    Even, I, a clear novice in Nigerian politics will tell you that the above is wrong! From my understanding, I'll tell you that the reason there hasnt been an Ibo president is because they lack tact, finesse, and conviction. They NEVER put their "own" forward [to run for office] and always seem content in playing destroyer; this always comes back to bite them in the rear. It seems to me they always want to go the "Opposite" of whatever way the Yorubas will vote; forgetting that in the end the Yorubas and the Hausas are still allies with a common goal. That common goal being; "staying in charge of the country and making sure the Ibos never rise to relevance".
     They so desperately try to partner up with the Hausas, not to forge a strong alliance, but hoping that in doing so harm willl come about to the Yoruba nation. Talk about cutting your nose to spite  your face. . . . . .
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by Ofemmanu: 12:41am On Aug 23, 2010
South/East, S/South alliance: Count us out, say Igbo leaders
, Obaji alleges threat to her life over meeting
From FRANCIS AWOWOLE-BROWNE, Abuja
Monday, August 23, 2010



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Prominent Igbo leaders under the aegis of the South-East Forum have dissociated themselves from a reported alliance forged between the South-East and the South-South geo-political zones on Dr. Goodluck Jonathan’s Presidential ambition in 2011. The merger was purportedly forged during a meeting held at the Abuja home of Ijaw leader, Chief Edwin Clark.

In a position paper signed by the group led by Chief Simon Okeke, former Chairman of the Police Service Commission (PSC), Dr. Ken Nnamani, Chief Jim Nwobodo, Senator Ben Obi, Sen Uche Chukwumerije, Dr. Sam Egwu and Dr. Udenta O. Udenta among others, the[b] Igbo leaders denied ever attending such meeting and that at no time were they in agreement with any zone that a particular candiadte will be supported in the 2011 election.[/b]


Indeed, one of the partcipants at the meeting, Prof. Chinwe Obaji, former Minister of Education described the report of the alliance as untrue because the meeting only looked into ways of improving the relationship between the two zones and how to tackle any impediment to fostering good and smooth relationship.

She said moments after she gave the correct version of what transpired at the meeting, she had been receiving threat calls [/b]said; that “neither threats nor undue coercion will change my stand on the fact that the South-East deserve a shot at the presidency in 2015.” The leaders of the South-East Forum said on no account would the geo-political zone’s aspiration for the 2015 presidency be traded off and the report that those who met with Chief Clark to the effect that the Ndigbo had decided to work with the South-South for the emergence of President Jonathan as President in 2011[b] was a blantant lie.


Jolted by the report of the alliance in which their names were mentioned as participants in the meeting and signed a communiqué, the leaders of the forum, who met with Northern political leaders on August 10 in Abuja and signed an agreement to work towards the emergence of a non-Igbo President in 2011 and subsequently, the realization of an Igbo President of Nigeria in 2015, expressed dismay at the purported meeting with Chief Clark.

Reacting to the said alliance the Secretary of the South- East Forum, Chief Chyna Iwuanyanwu said, ‘’We wish to place on public record, that none of the above-named leaders of the South-East Forum attended the meeting. The South-East Forum was unaware of such a meeting and was not part of its deliberations and resolutions’’
He added that ‘’we totally dissociate ourselves from the communique issued at the said meeting,” while urging the public, particularly the Ndigbo, to disregard the reported alliance.

The group also assured the generality of Ndigbo that the South-East Forum was firmly committed to the resolutions reached at the meeting with Northern political leaders Forum on Tuesday, August 10, 2010, “that the two groups believe in zoning and rotation of power principle as the best safeguard for our democracy, peace, unity and national stability, “That the two groups will work staunchly for the realization of a Northern President in 2011, and that both groups will also work assiduously for the realization of an Igbo President in 2015.

Professor Obaji who was visibly angry at the report said “it was unfortunate that some of the positions we took did not go down well with notable leaders from the South-South who then telephoned me the next day threatening me.
She told Daily Sun that she attended the meeting having be permitted by the Forum leaders and that she made her point known that the regions leaders should from to time dialogue “especially on frosty issues that tend to didvide us and make attempt to find solutions to these issues.

“I told the meeting that any discussion which does not address the genuine concerns and aspirations of the South-East zone may only be one-sided and could be shortlived. “It will be most unfair to me for anyone to invite me to a meeting of this nature and expect me not to represent the interest of the South-East zone as I know them, such an act could be tantamount to a silent betrayal of my people.

“Neither threat nor undue coercuion will change my stand on the fact that the South East deserve a shot at the presidency come 2015. This position is just equitable, fair and irrevocable and the kind of threat I ahve received is totally ill-motivated and counter prioductive.” Others who had disclaimed the purported alliance, included Hon. Dubem Onyia, Dr. Ezekiel Izugwu, Dr. Achike Udenwa, Prof. ABC Nwosu, Prof. Chukwuma Soludo, sen. Fidelis okoro, Chief Ken Emechebe etc.








hahahahahaha . . . Edwin Clark and his fellow millitants are threatening Prof Obaji with MEND because she bursted their bubble.!!
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by chyz(m): 12:49am On Aug 23, 2010
Lovely smiley, Igbo cohesion in the making. If they want are support let them bargain cool
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by okunoba(m): 1:58am On Aug 23, 2010
Ibb isn`t talking about fixing electricity, water, road, schools, hospitals and corruption, but his promising to hand over power to an Igbo man, what a smart move playing that same old divide and rule game that politicians so often use to distract us masses from scrutinizing their short falling as leaders.

We don`t need Babangida to tell us Nigeria needs an Igbo presidency to help heal the wounds of Biafra, any child of history knows it. Nigeria also needs to make up for it`s day light robbery of the Niger Deltan people and the environmental destruction of their land. Jonathan ruling until 2015 will go a long way in doing this and it will also make southern minorities feel like equals amongst equals.

The next president should be and must be an Igbo man, the north have ruled for over 35yrs the west for 11yrs and east only six months. The East have been schemed out of the presidency for too long and the North have monopolized it for far too long, in the name of fairness it`s only logical that the next president after Jonathan in 2015 should be of NdIgbo heritage.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by Onlytruth(m): 3:14am On Aug 23, 2010
okunoba:

Ibb isn`t talking about fixing electricity, water, road, schools, hospitals and corruption, but his promising to hand over power to an Igbo man, what a smart move playing that same old divide and rule game that politicians so often use to distract us masses from scrutinizing their short falling as leaders.

We don`t need Babangida to tell us Nigeria needs an Igbo presidency to help heal the wounds of Biafra, any child of history knows it. Nigeria also needs to make up for it`s day light robbery of the Niger Deltan people and the environmental destruction of their land. Jonathan ruling until 2015 will go a long way in doing this and it will also make southern minorities feel like equals amongst equals.

The next president should be and must be an Igbo man, the north have ruled for over 35yrs the west for 11yrs and east only six months. The East have been schemed out of the presidency for too long and the North have monopolized it for far too long, in the name of fairness it`s only logical that the next president after Jonathan in 2015 should be of NdIgbo heritage.

But for the problem of zoning in the PDP, you are otherwise spot on.

Anybody who has any atom of love for Nigeria must realize that the civil war has not ended yet until we have an Igbo president.
There are Igbos who don't care about anything Nigeria at all, whose mind is already made up on Biafra. I believe that a bigger number of Igbos really want to try Nigeria one last time.

2015 is non-negotiable. 2011 is almost irrelevant to Ndigbo. We are focused on 2015.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by bkbabe97y(m): 6:58am On Aug 23, 2010
chyz:

I feel that but you gotta look at it this way. GJ has showed no signs of leadership, he as a president allowed an organization(FIFA) to run his country and tell him what he could and could not do. Since he entered presidency he has not done anything for we the niger-deltans or Igbos. He appointed all of the top shops to northerners and he's basically took almost all of the Igbos out of the Public Eye.Has you ever asked yourself why he gave himself the minister of power then later on turn it around and give it to an Igbo person.What stopped him from giving it to the guy all along?It seems like hes already set up what he needed to to loot money and possibly use the Igbo guy as a deflection. He's been really shady lately and has only made moves such as sacks to save his tail.He honored all of the most corrupt people in nigeria and dines with them.

GJ has no track record, although im not saying I wouldnt support him but time is running out and he's had nothing to show for it. Also, with the new state promise if it is true that he will be announcing them on Oct.1st, independence day and he makes Anioma State, its good for the Igbos, but most will only see it as him doing that to gain Igbo votes and he will not get my vote. Believe me were not choosing IBB at this moment to still leave room for jonathan to prove himself. As for as military rule in nigeria that IBB had before, he cant try it .every part of the country will fight the army men and try to kill IBB.He has no choice but to work under a democracy.

As far as trust GJ has lost the trust of the igbos.He seems like a snake theres an saying that Africans have "I'd rather live with a murderer than a thief because at least you know what to expect from the murderer". Although IBB is a thief as GJ, The thief(GJ) and the murderer(IBB).


Chyz, Ive never said u should vote in President Jonathan in 2011, all I'm saying is why are the Ibos intent on voting a known despot in hopes that the Yoruabs would somehow be hurt in the process? My take on the issue? Vote a credible person regardless of race, religion or tribal affiliation!
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by excanny: 9:15am On Aug 23, 2010
@ bk.babe

Until you grow up to learn how to spell 'Igbo' correctly, we'll be bent on going the opposite way on any who disrespects us. How romantic!

Personal note to you: if you think that only descendants of Yoruba slaves make up the caribbeans, go and read your history notes well.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by naso2(m): 10:35am On Aug 23, 2010
I have refrained from speaking on this Igbo support for jonathan or IBB for a long time . The SE no doubt is the beautiful bride in the coming elections but i expect them to be wise. I will advice that they take the option that best suites them. The question now is , do they know the best option? are they taking a position based on proper appraisal of the political space? or is it revenge for the deeds of the SS or just hanging on promises from an individual whose record show a man with a penchant for explaining away why he can not keep prmosises?


The Igbos must note very clearly that if 40 years has not been able to erase the pains of the civil war, so has 40 years not doused the suspicion the average northerner has for the Igbos. LIKE IT OR NOT, THIS WILL DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENS IN 2015, EVEN WITH PDP ROTATION.

something a lot of us seem to be be overlooking is that while the average southerner thinks the PDP zoning arrangement means power rotates amongst the six geopolitical regions( NW,NE,NC,SW,SS,SE), the north simply understands it as a purely NORTH and SOUTH rotation. The danger in this is that the same geopolitical region say NW can keep producing the president when it goes to the North. The same applies to the south too. The difference is that while the north will be able to handle it, for the south it will be a major problem becuase of the tribal divide and inhererent suscpicions.

TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, IF THE NORTH HAS TO CHOOSE BETWEEN ,SS,SE,SW, YOU CAN BE SURE THAT THE SW WILL BE THEIR OVERWHELMING FAVOURITE ANYDAY.

If The SE fails to support the SS now, then it is a given that the SS will not support the SE when 2015 comes and with that even with zoning of the PDP, the SE candidate will not win. It is that simple.

Is the presidency a must for the SS at this time? I will say certainly not. What the SS needs is massive development and federal presence that properly represent its contibution to the nigerian economy. Development that will drastically reduce youth restiveness and prepare the people for the days after oil, afterall it is estimated that our reserves may not last more that 35 years from now. It is common knowledge that aside the gigantic campaign promises of successive governments , there has been virtually no work done over the years, hence it understandable if the average ND man now thinks that it might just be different this time, if our son is the steersman for the nation this time.

I believe the SE should get serious commitments from jonathan on massive developments in the SE, during the period of wait.The truth is that the SE and SS are so connected that development or crime in one region inadvertently affects the other. I therefore think it will be foolishness on GEJ's part , to ignore the SE if he plans lasting peace and development in the SS.

I am very sure that period of wait for the Igbos will defintively not be less than 8 yrs.(may be i am wrong). IBB will never do 1 term If IBB wins and stays for 8 years at the expense of GEJ,then we can all be sure that it will take the SS,some die hard northern elements and an indiffent SW to scuttle the plan.

This is one time the SE, and SS need to bond together. Anything short will be a lose-lose for both regions. QED.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by bkbabe97y(m): 10:42am On Aug 23, 2010
excanny:

@ bk.babe

Until you grow up to learn how to spell 'Igbo' correctly, we'll be bent on going the opposite way on any who disrespects us. How romantic!

Personal note to you: if you think that only descendants of Yoruba slaves make up the caribbeans, go and read your history notes well.

I've tried to be civil, these past few weeks, but I knew sooner (rather than later) I'd run into ur type. . . So, here goes: STFU! Dont know what that means? Ok, here goes again: SHUT THE FC*UK UP! Learn to spell "Ibo" correctly indeed! Go kill urself, I spell it how its pronounced, u got a problem with that I already told u wut to do to urself! Fool! So, assuming, I was even spelling it incorrectly, thatd be enough justification to avoid facts and base arguments on lies just cause u feel "disrespected"? slowpoke, be gone. . . .

excanny:

@ bk.babe
Personal note to you: if you think that only descendants of Yoruba slaves make up the caribbeans, go and read your history notes well.

What the hell are u talking about? Well, like I said earlier: slowpoke, be gone!
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by excanny: 11:34am On Aug 23, 2010
@ bk.babe97y

I know you have no manners. Naturally i dont like speaking with because you have successfully proven to me that you have no sense.

What i'm telling you is that as a Caribbean or Hispanic Whatever, you ought to talk about Nigerian politics on a neutral ground, because you could be throwing stones at the market.

I hope you are old enough to understand what i'm saying.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by omenkanwao(m): 11:50am On Aug 23, 2010
I have always said it that GEJ no matter hw gud he is does not represent the best interest of Ndiigbo come 2015, Supporting IBB or any other northerner is a more verifiable option for we Ndiigbo
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by naso2(m): 12:13pm On Aug 23, 2010
omenkanwao:

I have always said it that GEJ no matter hw gud he is does not represent the best interest of Ndiigbo come 2015, Supporting IBB or any other northerner is a more verifiable option for we Ndiigbo

If The SE fails to support the SS now, then it is a given that the SS will not support the SE when 2015 comes and with that even with zoning of the PDP, the SE candidate will not win. It is that simple.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by chyz(m): 12:16pm On Aug 23, 2010
na_so:

If The SE fails to support the SS now, then it is a given that the SS will not support the SE when 2015 comes and with that even with zoning of the PDP, the SE candidate will not win. It is that simple.


Pat Utomi
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by naso2(m): 12:18pm On Aug 23, 2010
I will advice that they take the option that best suites them. The question now is , do they know the best option? are they taking a position based on proper appraisal of the political space? or is it revenge for the deeds of the SS or just hanging on promises from an individual whose record show a man with a penchant for explaining away why he can not keep prmosises?


The Igbos must note very clearly that if 40 years has not been able to erase the pains of the civil war, so has 40 years not doused the suspicion the average northerner has for the Igbos. LIKE IT OR NOT, THIS WILL DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENS IN 2015, EVEN WITH PDP ROTATION.
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by seanet02: 3:36pm On Aug 23, 2010
WILL SEE HOW FAR YOU CAN TRUST IBB,
BACK STABBING
Re: 2011: Ibb’s Offer Is Best Option For South East – Obinna Uzoh by sjeezy8: 4:46pm On Aug 23, 2010
na_so:

I have refrained from speaking on this Igbo support for jonathan or IBB for a long time . The SE no doubt is the beautiful bride in the coming elections but i expect them to be wise. I will advice that they take the option that best suites them. The question now is , do they know the best option? are they taking a position based on proper appraisal of the political space? or is it revenge for the deeds of the SS or just hanging on promises from an individual whose record show a man with a penchant for explaining away why he can not keep prmosises?


The Igbos must note very clearly that if 40 years has not been able to erase the pains of the civil war, so has 40 years not doused the suspicion the average northerner has for the Igbos. LIKE IT OR NOT, THIS WILL DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENS IN 2015, EVEN WITH PDP ROTATION.

something a lot of us seem to be be overlooking is that while the average southerner thinks the PDP zoning arrangement means power rotates amongst the six geopolitical regions( NW,NE,NC,SW,SS,SE), the north simply understands it as a purely NORTH and SOUTH rotation. The danger in this is that the same geopolitical region say NW can keep producing the president when it goes to the North. The same applies to the south too. The difference is that while the north will be able to handle it, for the south it will be a major problem becuase of the tribal divide and inhererent suscpicions.

TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, IF THE NORTH HAS TO CHOOSE BETWEEN ,SS,SE,SW, YOU CAN BE SURE THAT THE SW WILL BE THEIR OVERWHELMING FAVOURITE ANYDAY.

If The SE fails to support the SS now, then it is a given that the SS will not support the SE when 2015 comes and with that even with zoning of the PDP, the SE candidate will not win. It is that simple.

Is the presidency a must for the SS at this time? I will say certainly not. What the SS needs is massive development and federal presence that properly represent its contibution to the nigerian economy. Development that will drastically reduce youth restiveness and prepare the people for the days after oil, afterall it is estimated that our reserves may not last more that 35 years from now. It is common knowledge that aside the gigantic campaign promises of successive governments , there has been virtually no work done over the years, hence it understandable if the average ND man now thinks that it might just be different this time, if our son is the steersman for the nation this time.

I believe the SE should get serious commitments from jonathan on massive developments in the SE, during the period of wait.The truth is that the SE and SS are so connected that development or crime in one region inadvertently affects the other. I therefore think it will be foolishness on GEJ's part , to ignore the SE if he plans lasting peace and development in the SS.

I am very sure that period of wait for the Igbos will defintively not be less than 8 yrs.(may be i am wrong). IBB will never do 1 term If IBB wins and stays for 8 years at the expense of GEJ,then we can all be sure that it will take the SS,some die hard northern elements and an indiffent SW to scuttle the plan.

This is one time the SE, and SS need to bond together. Anything short will be a lose-lose for both regions. QED.

Right now the SW- is chilling and are willing to support Jonathan- mainly because theres no SW going for president or vice president in 2011. All the good performing or popular candidates in the SW right now are going for 2nd term Govenors of their state. Fashola(ACN) is still going to be govenor of the Lagos state and Mimiko (Labour party) is still going to be govenor of Ondo state even Oshiomole(ACN) of Edo is still going to govern Edo. Ribadu and El rufai are probably not running for president-  in 2011 

[size=13pt]Its like 2011- is freaking Give away to the SS- But BELIEVE this will NEVER HAPPEN again! 2015 or 2019 Im sure Ribadu, Oshiomole, Elrufai, Mimiko and Fashola will be contesting either as Vice presidents or president- all of whom are progressive muslims (indifferent about religion) who can appeal to the north, middle belt and South esp the SW and Edo
The North is confused the core north doesnt want IBB not hausa-fulani enough .[/size]

Into 2015- SW, edo, middle belts(Kogi, Kwara,Niger, Nasswarra) and the Core Norths votes will SURELY go to either- Oshiomole, Ribadu, Elrufai, Fashola, Mimiko. - Theres no Doubt about it. No one cares about PDP zoning in the SW, core North,middle belts(Kogi, Kwara,Niger, Nasswarra)- If they have a good candidate from their region going for president or vice- Those region and states ill vote for him.

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