Egba girl:

Do Nigerians understand what these frats are intended for? If it has no meaning to them or it does not fit into our culture then it's not needed.
Wole Soyinka and the others might have had good intentions but how many people share those intentions/values/sentiments?

I think the benefits of this action and the consequences should be heavily weighed. Frats are good but are they good in Nigeria. We have to be realistic. Are they what we need at this point? Will that improve the education that nigerians are getting? Priorities first!

timmy2409:

I think there's a misunderstanding here. After rereading my original post, I think it's very open to misinterpretation I wasn't proposing registration of the present 'secret cults', I meant that new frats would be created for positivity.
I attended the university of tech akure for one year, and I understand that there's an insanely high stigma that arises at the mention of 'fraternity', but I just thought the idea of a positive org with that 'title' might show that everything/person can be used in positive ways
Well what they are called fellowships but still function as stated in my original post? Would that work?

chamber2:

@timmy2409

I think the BOOKS u r reading in d US is affecting your reasoning or have u joined the smoking gang? Frat or whatever baptism u want to give it has never worked and will never work in Nigeria, simple.There r alot of things that need re-inventing in naija.And meanwhile,you said u planned teaching for JUST ONE YEAR,haba. Do you intend to achieve all these in one year? How many Nigeria Uni r u targeting or it is only the one in Akure? I sense u r coming home 4 NYSC.

Please think of something else and we will be glad to offer our suggestions

pheesayor:

I understand your original post, but don't you think having new REGISTERED frats will cause others to be jealous? What if the existing one are registered? I'm suggesting this because there's nothing government can do to stop them because they are also part of government

Egba girl:

Do Nigerians understand what these frats are intended for? If it has no meaning to them or it does not fit into our culture then it's not needed.
Wole Soyinka and the others might have had good intentions but how many people share those intentions/values/sentiments?

I think the benefits of this action and the consequences should be heavily weighed. Frats are good but are they good in Nigeria. We have to be realistic. Are they what we need at this point? Will that improve the education that nigerians are getting? Priorities first!

so what do you suggest? nobody's doing jack to improve the system, and every idea that comes up 'is not what we need right now', then what do we need? and how do we obtain what we need?

chamber2:

@timmy2409

I think the BOOKS u r reading in d US is affecting your reasoning or have u joined the smoking gang? Frat or whatever baptism u want to give it has never worked and will never work in Nigeria, simple.There r alot of things that need re-inventing in naija.And meanwhile,you said u planned teaching for JUST ONE YEAR,haba. Do you intend to achieve all these in one year? How many Nigeria Uni r u targeting or it is only the one in Akure? I sense u r coming home 4 NYSC.

Please think of something else and we will be glad to offer our suggestions

otiokpo:

@ pheesayor u talk as if u know about the 4CPs and the 7RBs. hit me anyways Ah**

chamber2:


How do we stop kidnapping?

How do we stop scuffle between motor parks union leaders?

How do we stop armed robbery?

How do we stop treasury looting?

How do we stop illegal arms importation by politicians?

How do we stop exam malpractice?

How do we stop corruption?

How do we improve power supply?

How do we eradicate poverty and hunger?

How do we stop laziness and poor attitude to work?

How do we stop religious fanaticism?

How do we stop tribalism?

How do we stop, etc?

New ideas are needed in these areas

Pafuri:

Moronic thread.
@poster: you either do not get it or you are being mischievous.
Some facts:
1. The goals, membership (or, at least its leadership from year to year) of the Pyrates Confraternity is on file with the UI (Mother Ship) authorities just like any other organization on campus. I do not know anything about other campuses or other fraternities that grew out of a desire to start one's own fraternity having been kicked out of the Pyrates Confraternity for conducts unbecoming of a Sea Dog. These include use of illicit drug, disloyalty as in not upholding the creed of the group, betrayal of friendship, 'mutiny', public embarrassment, etc., etc. or simply wanting to be Cap'n of a deck.
2. Mr. 'Study in America', the membership of the Pyrates Confraternity is made up of the brightest minds you could find on the UI campus, and perhaps in Nigeria. The members have always graduated and gone out seeking change and betterment in whatever calling they choose to make their own. They have always excelled in all their endeavors, and have contributed immensely to whatever little accomplishments have been recorded by the Nigerian nation. Names will not be mentioned because you see, we do not seek public accolade.

You need some education, the type that could not be obtained unless you remove your 'reformist' goggles.

THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL REACTION.

@manny4life: the point is there in the reaction. If you don't get it, too bad. Sorry, I can't help you. I believe or, at least I hope, the poster does get it. You talk about what you think, I talk about what I know. We are operating from different perspectives: yours is a realm of imagination, mine is the reality. Thank you, sir.

manny4life:


And your point is?

Anyway mr timmy, the way fraternities work here isn't the way it will work in Nigeria. A friend of mine who visited here began to chastise me about fraternity, and started saying a whole load of crap but I told him the fraternity I know is involved in community service, etc for the purpose of the good. I do not think it would be for that purpose; for good if its in Nigeria.

kellybaba:

The militarised culture that has come to shape the mentality of most Nigerians following years of debilitating military rule did find ts way in to the universities leading to a culture of violence and brigandage instead of dialogue and harmony.This coupled with the hardship and difficulties in the Country has worsened matters and has turned our under-grads into 'militants in academic gowns'.
Please Mr Timmy or whatever you call yourself,i think you should abandon this conflagration you are romancing with.The culture here is nautical miles apart from obtains in North America.
[b]Meanwhile,we can think of ways of re-building the moral decadence in schools by patnering with genuine religious bodies.[/b]A nation without morality and conscience is a time-bomb waiting to go off at any time.
Thanks all the same for sparing some good thot for dear fatherland all the way from the US

.NET:

This is an AMERICAN crop which will not grow in a NIGERIAN soil.


.NET

Pafuri:

Moronic thread.
@poster: you either do not get it or you are being mischievous.
Some facts:
1. The goals, membership (or, at least its leadership from year to year) of the Pyrates Confraternity is on file with the UI (Mother Ship) authorities just like any other organization on campus. I do not know anything about other campuses or other fraternities that grew out of a desire to start one's own fraternity having been kicked out of the Pyrates Confraternity for conducts unbecoming of a Sea Dog. These include use of illicit drug, disloyalty as in not upholding the creed of the group, betrayal of friendship, 'mutiny', public embarrassment, etc., etc. or simply wanting to be Cap'n of a deck.
2. Mr. 'Study in America', the membership of the Pyrates Confraternity is made up of the brightest minds you could find on the UI campus, and perhaps in Nigeria. The members have always graduated and gone out seeking change and betterment in whatever calling they choose to make their own. They have always excelled in all their endeavors, and have contributed immensely to whatever little accomplishments have been recorded by the Nigerian nation. Names will not be mentioned because you see, we do not seek public accolade.

You need some education, the type that could not be obtained unless you remove your 'reformist' goggles.

THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL REACTION.

tensor777:

That is a good point. A wider point is that already there are campus based clubs in Nigeria that are set up specifically to render much-needed services to the community.
Setting up a secret cult that purports, among other things, to render community services is not the way to go.

timmy2409:

Give me examples of such clubs pls, In my year at FUTA, there was nothing, I mean NOTHING AT ALL as such,

timmy2409:

Ummm, I dont think an organization that registers itself and all of its members to the uni authorities is 'secret'