The head of the Roman Catholic Church worldwide, Pope Francis, has officially approved a change to the age long “Lord’s Prayer” in Matthew 6:13 replacing “lead us not into temptation” with “do not let us fall into temptation.”
The US Catholic reported Monday that the Vatican enacted the change on May 22.
According to the Pope, he believes the new version is better because the first translation implies that God leads people into temptation, an action that is against his nature as a good and holy God.
“A father doesn’t do that, a father helps you to get up immediately,” Francis said of the line in question. “It’s Satan who leads us into temptation, that’s his department.”
For years, Christians have wrestled with the actual meaning behind, “Lead us not.” After more than 16 years of study, some biblical researchers say a better translation of the scripture would be: “Abandon us not when in temptation.”
The late theologian Charles Spurgeon, as reported by the CBN News, had explained during a sermon in 1863 that the word “temptation” in Matthew 6:13 actually holds two meanings, both the temptation toward sin and the facing of trials and tribulations.
While, Spurgeon agrees that God does not tempt us, he does argue that God will send us into trials and situations in which temptation toward sin is ever-present.
“God tempts no man,” Spurgeon said. “For God to tempt in the sense of enticing to sin (is) inconsistent with his nature, and altogether contrary to his known character; but for God to lead us into those conflicts with evil which we call temptations, is not only possible but usual.”
The Catholic Church is using the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible to try to determine the best phrasing. But Spurgeon argues in his sermon that he believes the original Greek version, which says “lead us not” is best.
Dr. Corne Bekker of the Regent University School of Divinity agrees with Spurgeon’s analysis. He told CBN News he believes the bigger question is, “What is the purpose of temptation?”
“God allows us to be tempted, and I think two things happen. We get to know ourselves a little bit better, and of course what we learn is that we have no recourse against sin. But more importantly, we get to know God Himself. We have to remember the next phrase in the Lord’s Prayer – ‘and deliver us from all evil.’ He’s able to do that,” Bekker explained.
Experts after 16 years of research said they found a mistake in the current translation believing “it implied God can lead followers astray.”
“It is not a good translation because it speaks of a God who induces temptation,” Pope said.

Read more: https://gistdeal..com/2019/06/outrage-as-pope-francis-changes-lords.html?m=1

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chuka85:
The head of the Roman Catholic Church worldwide, Pope Francis, has officially approved a change to the age long “Lord’s Prayer” in Matthew 6:13 replacing “lead us not into temptation” with “do not let us fall into temptation.”
The US Catholic reported Monday that the Vatican enacted the change on May 22.
According to the Pope, he believes the new version is better because the first translation implies that God leads people into temptation, an action that is against his nature as a good and holy God.
“A father doesn’t do that, a father helps you to get up immediately,” Francis said of the line in question. “It’s Satan who leads us into temptation, that’s his department.”
For years, Christians have wrestled with the actual meaning behind, “Lead us not.” After more than 16 years of study, some biblical researchers say a better translation of the scripture would be: “Abandon us not when in temptation.”
The late theologian Charles Spurgeon, as reported by the CBN News, had explained during a sermon in 1863 that the word “temptation” in Matthew 6:13 actually holds two meanings, both the temptation toward sin and the facing of trials and tribulations.
While, Spurgeon agrees that God does not tempt us, he does argue that God will send us into trials and situations in which temptation toward sin is ever-present.
“God tempts no man,” Spurgeon said. “For God to tempt in the sense of enticing to sin (is) inconsistent with his nature, and altogether contrary to his known character; but for God to lead us into those conflicts with evil which we call temptations, is not only possible but usual.”
The Catholic Church is using the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible to try to determine the best phrasing. But Spurgeon argues in his sermon that he believes the original Greek version, which says “lead us not” is best.
Dr. Corne Bekker of the Regent University School of Divinity agrees with Spurgeon’s analysis. He told CBN News he believes the bigger question is, “What is the purpose of temptation?”
“God allows us to be tempted, and I think two things happen. We get to know ourselves a little bit better, and of course what we learn is that we have no recourse against sin. But more importantly, we get to know God Himself. We have to remember the next phrase in the Lord’s Prayer – ‘and deliver us from all evil.’ He’s able to do that,” Bekker explained.
Experts after 16 years of research said they found a mistake in the current translation believing “it implied God can lead followers astray.”
“It is not a good translation because it speaks of a God who induces temptation,” Pope said.

Read more: https://gistdeal..com/2019/06/outrage-as-pope-francis-changes-lords.html?m=1

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Let's discuss Nigeria's problems

OP, is this really necessary? c'mon we have more pressing issues to trash

Pope Francis and Oshogbo weed

Isinweke:
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Let's discuss Nigeria's problems

Nigeria does not have problems, Nigeria is a problem.

I think you need to read this post again before you comment. Of course, let's note the fact that it is someone who translated from Hebrew for us. Lead us not to... Sound as if he can, but we are pleading he shouldn't. Why do we have so many translation of the bible, if everything sounds correct in the first place.

I'm not a Catholic... that is my token on this issue.

olayiwola4u:
I think you need to read this post again before you comment. Of course, let's note the fact that it is someone who translated from Hebrew for us. Lead us not to... Sound as if he can, but we are pleading he shouldn't. Why do we have so many translation of the bible, if everything sounds correct in the first place.

I'm not a Catholic... that is my token on this issue.

LET'S DISCUSS HOW IMPORTED FULANI JIHADISTS ARE TAKING OVER NIGERIANS' LAND.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0CeMHeoejw

chuka85:
The head of the Roman Catholic Church worldwide, Pope Francis, has officially approved a change to the age long “Lord’s Prayer” in Matthew 6:13 replacing “lead us not into temptation” with “do not let us fall into temptation.”
According to the Pope, he believes the new version is better because the first translation implies that God leads people into temptation, an action that is against his nature as a good and holy God.
“A father doesn’t do that, a father helps you to get up immediately,” Francis said of the line in question. “It’s Satan who leads us into temptation, that’s his department.”

Finally, they hear the words they say!

Don't you worry Pope Francis. They will understand when you tell them who wrote the Bible in chapter 5!

budaatum:

Finally, they hear the words they say!

Don't you worry Pope Francis. They will understand when you tell them who wrote the Bible in chapter 5!

lol.

They always heard what they say, it just needed explanation. Now the language has been clarified

Ubenedictus:
lol.

They always heard what they say, it just needed explanation. Now the language has been clarified

Well, the language was obviously wrong, hence the correction by the Popo. I could not utter the previous words as they made a mockery of God when I didn't intend to.

Now, all we need is an explanation of the curse in the prayer. The one that limits God's forgiveness of oneself to the exact amount by which one forgives others.

budaatum:

Well, the language was obviously wrong, hence the correction by the Popo. I could not utter the previous words as they made a mockery of God when I didn't intend to.

Now, all we need is an explanation of the curse in the prayer. The one that limits God's forgiveness of oneself to the exact amount by which one forgives others.

the language wasn't exactly wrong though.

I think the Greek is translated as "and bring us not to temptation".... Christians believe that nothing can happen without God's permission... Even temptation, that was supposed to be a prayer to God's Providence.

The language change is supposed to help the spiritually handicapped by presenting a dynamic equivalent instead of a word for word translation.... The old translation was faithful to the Greek but was corrected with the Latin... Frankly that's a weird choice of correction.

The curse there is on purpose, give and it shall be given to you, blessed are the merciful they shall obtain mercy.... That's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Ubenedictus:
the language wasn't exactly wrong though.

I think the Greek is translated as "and bring us not to temptation".... Christians believe that nothing can happen without God's permission... Even temptation, that was supposed to be a prayer to God's Providence.

The language change is supposed to help the spiritually handicapped by presenting a dynamic equivalent instead of a word for word translation.... The old translation was faithful to the Greek but was corrected with the Latin... Frankly that's a weird choice of correction.

The curse there is on purpose, give and it shall be given to you, blessed are the merciful they shall obtain mercy.... That's not going anywhere anytime soon.

The correction is long overdue regardless of it's origin. We don't think God is responsible for temptation anymore!

I'm not hoping the curse of "forgive us our trespasses" goes away. I'm just hoping the Pope bulls about it like he's done with the obnoxious "lead us not into temptation", so everyone is aware they are cursing themselves. We can't exactly say most people know it is a curse.