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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by HARDDON: 7:25pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
Bokoharam: MAY D WILL N WISH OF D GOOD LORD ABOVE B DONE! |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by Gbawe: 7:26pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
Bokoharam: Shagari and Yar Adua , many will argue, were as "humble" as GEJ . Where did they get Nigeria? Lets stop bastardizing the english language with our attempt to claim that the word cluelessness now equates to the word humility. We did it with Shagari and Yar Adua. Look where we are today !!! Yet , from how many of you are talking it seems we have learnt nothing from the past. A man admits he is not the best for the job in a nation that has been destroyed by accidental and unprepared leaders yet some of you still regard Jonathan's damning pronouncement as a positive thing? God help Nigeria !!!!!!! |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by comechop1: 7:46pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
@ appletago u quoted me. Frankly speaking, i do agree with you after going thro ur post. However, my perception towards the matter was viewed from a different angle. U should remember that there are 2 side to a coin , what he meant is deep and expressed in a diplomatic way. He was less experienced in the beginning, he is developing. there are others better than him but they are arrogant, vain. Jonathan rose from deputy governor to the chair of a president as am writing indeed, he warmed up already in this field in addition to his academic background all counts! the most important thing as a leader is equal life for all. honesty and sincerity. Do u remember the late Julius Nyerere of Tanzania one of Africa most respected figure Mwalimu? do u know that he was an ordinary classroom teacher? a school master by choice and a politician by accident? GLJ has visions i believe he will set them out and things will come to light if truly, |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by BetaThings: 8:20pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
come chop:No need to speculate and lie. The man said "I was chosen because I am from Niger Delta" How can people even come here to tell lies and at the same time accuse politicians of looting and corruption |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by BetaThings: 8:25pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
come chop:What vision? A man who has been in the PDP since 1999? A man who is cutting deals to sell houses to Bankole and Mark? A man who cannot arrest Daniel's travesty in Ogun, but make him campaign co-ordinator? A man who would fabricate test messages to frame his opponents to be aired on TV? A man who would single out his home state (bayelsa) for exclusive concession from the Offshore-Onshore dichotomy for derivation money This is a PDP man, my dear friend |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by PhysicsQED(m): 8:27pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
Great tactical move. I gotta admit I'm impressed with this quote. I didn't think GEJ could be this cunning (knowing the quote actually portrays him in a good light with the whole "I'm not a politician I'm a regular guy but I'm doing this to save this country" angle) or this honest. I was more neutral before but now I think GEJ is simply more intelligent than anybody else in the running and consequently better equipped to actually change things. We should remember that no intelligent person has ever been head of state in Nigeria. Just mediocrities. Excellent move overall. Let those dumb enough to think he was confessing some sort of supposed inadequacy wallow in their own misplaced hate. |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by BetaThings: 8:29pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
PhysicsQED:You really think he is so smart to be able to deceive the US? Think again. Those guys have information. |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by BetaThings: 8:30pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
Bokoharam:Have you read the wikileaks cable of those other leaders? |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by PhysicsQED(m): 8:31pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
BetaThings: Deceive the US about what? |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by Ericology(m): 8:32pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
byrron: THANK U, people like BEAF are ready to applaud him whenever he displays some dumb acts, |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by BetaThings: 8:52pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
PhysicsQED: PhysicsQED: |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by 9ijaMan: 8:56pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
After going through virtually every post, I came to a single conclusion: We (Nigerians) are not wholeheartedly prepared for the so called change we seem to be clamoring for. How on earth can anyone in his right thinking senses assume that such damning revelation from GEJ (accepting that he's incompetent for the position he's holding) portrays him as being sincere befuddles me. The real insult to the nation (and Nigerians as a whole) actually stems from the fact that he admitted that much to the representative of a foreign country. If he could admit this much, what further concessions could he have given in his desperate attempt to remain in power. It is highly discombobulating for anyone (in his right senses) to attempt to equate cluelessness with humility. Some posts even went as far as claiming GEJ is not desperate: if attempting at bribing a man of God (to seek his support) is not desperation, then I really do not know how to figure out a desperate move. As GEJ has rightly acknowledged, he (GEJ) is not the best man for the job. The same way I will not want a confused surgeon to operate on me nor a jamibite saddled with the affairs of running a multi-billion dollar organization, I sure will not want GEJ to lead 9ja. We need a seasoned leader who has good track records to back him up and not a leader who wants to learn on the job. |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by Kobojunkie: 8:59pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
^^ roflmao!! |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by Nobody: 9:14pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by Kobojunkie: 9:18pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
PStylish: Can I ask you to go back, check your facts and then come back with a better post? The reason is your post is filled with way too many faulty assumptions to even compare in any way to the political reality in Nigeria. Handing over to a Northerner or not is not Jonathan’s decision to make. He is president in a democratic Nation, and regardless of what happens in the PDP Party, at the end of the day, the people will pick who will win or not come next year. Also Zoning agreement currently applies ONLY to PDP party members, not to all of Nigeria. |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by 9ijaMan: 9:34pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
Kobojunkie:Thanks Kobojonkie. I have this little bit to add though. Zoning has always been entrenched in the National fabric of our dear state, Nigeria. It only comes under different names such as federal character, catchment area etc. It's just a matter of nomenclature, the truth of the matter is that Zoning has always been part and parcel of the 9ja constitution. |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by babsmii(m): 10:17pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
sure boi!!! GEJ, goodluck to you man, im sure all we want to hear are lies cos we're used to it, he just came out to say the truth now and some people are still complaining, do you want him to start lieing like others |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by BetaThings: 10:29pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
babsmii:He was making all these confessions to the ambassadors of a foreign country At the same time, he was telling Nigerians that he was in charge and competent Now tell me who is more dangerous! |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by 9ijaMan: 10:39pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
I think we do not need to look any further. Niboro has denied GEJ ever made such a statement. http://saharareporters.com/news-page/wikileaks-jonathan-responds-united-states O ye GEJ cronies on NL, the ball is now in your court to spin this one again o! Your angel is denying once again that he made a big gaffe by admitting to a foreign rep that he is incompetent and inexperienced to lead 9ja. Beaf & the rest over to una! |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by Nobody: 11:20pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by TENDON: 1:31am On Dec 10, 2010 |
I wonder when Aso rock will have men rule and not just boys in trousers-who express their political naivety not only in actions but also viva voce |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by sweet9ja: 1:50am On Dec 10, 2010 |
Wikileak is God sent to GEJ. Is there anyone still doubting his sincerity? |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by appletango: 2:31am On Dec 10, 2010 |
sweet9ja: if wikileak is so good for the guy then why has his one man PR team - Ima Niboro - hurridly released a statement trying to rubbish the authenticity of the "leak'? if, as you say, it was "god sent" then surely they should all be embracing it, no? in fact, isn't it sacrilegious to deny something that is sent by god? does this mean that gej is actually engaged in ritualistic devil worshiping OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG i think you'll find that they are [size=20pt]extremely[/size] scared about the potential ramifications of this event. as you can tell by their amateur denial. speaking of which, do you not remember the last time they tried to deny something?? that one didn't end to well for them and neither will this. |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by appletango: 2:40am On Dec 10, 2010 |
PhysicsQED: GEJ is far from the sophisticated manipulator that you wish he was. instead he is a walking talking clown. they guy is so petrified of saying anything wrong that he has stopped speaking to the media completely. in case you haven't noticed it is always his "policy spokesman said this" or his "campaign manager said that"; seriously, when was the last time you actually heard the guy speak? and i bet you that even then it was scripted. the guy is a so out of his depth that it's somewhat sad to see him struggling with basic doggie paddle inorder to keep his head above water. didn't you see the baboon on CNN? to think this is nigeria's "first citizen". |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by Eziachi: 4:01am On Dec 10, 2010 |
Many times, I really do feel sorry for most Nigerians. You will have to think that majority that write here are on average the literate ones, but when you consider how they reasons, you really have to say sorry to Nigeria. I will like to dig up this debate, a year from now and see what new song you will be singing about Jonathan, Atiku and the rest of them. By all indication, Nigerians don’t learn from the past, hence they make the same mistake all the time. The same people that call OBJ MESSAIH once are the same today trying to stone him. Today Jonathan has become God’s anointed, the best thing since slice bread. How can someone secretly saying that he is not qualified for a job he is now doing to be called honesty? Honesty to whom? Was it you lot or to a foreign ambassador without knowing that one day it will become a public knowledge? Did Jonathan admitted this so called honesty to you people or was it something said in secret to a foreigner with a foreign interest? Wasn’t it something he never thought will become public? You guys need to be pitied. Any nation or people who are not cynical to their political leaders will always fall into the same trap all the time. This revelation shows once again, that Nigerian has never had a leader who has plan to govern, only those pushed by powerful forces or circumstance pushed them into it. Balewa never knew he will find himself a prime minister, hence no plans and unprepared, the same for Shagari, OBJ was taken straight from a prison and catapulted into presidency, unprepared, no plans on how to govern. Yar Adua was a total disaster, for the same reason and the guy right behind him was even worse, he never expected to be a governor but ended up being one, never in wildest dream did he ever think of becoming a VP, ended up as a president without any plan. Just like others before him, he is only relying on a daily faith and wind of good luck and advice from foreign powers that are there for their own interest only. He told the American Ambassador according to the leaked information, that he has no plans against 2011, and here we are now people is calling the same person without plans God’s anointed. Why is he running for office then few months after admitting not having any plans? Probably, the ever ready God of Nigerians told him in his dream he has to be president and that is it and the so called educated class are calling him God’s anointed, then you can imagine about the uneducated ones. May your so called God help you people, because you really will need it. What cursed nation and people. |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by PhysicsMHD(m): 4:21am On Dec 10, 2010 |
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-564907.0.html
The bold part sounds like sheer honest humility. I don't see how anybody could possibly ever interpret it as admission of some sort of incompetence. Then again the original poster in this thread selectively quoted statements in exactly such a way as to make silly interpretations possible and people in this thread completely fell for it. Context is important people. Inform yourselves before leaping into conclusions. As for no plans for 2011, he had already said that if the people wanted him, he would go for it. But he definitely had plans to conduct better elections.
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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by zeminar(m): 8:45am On Dec 10, 2010 |
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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by Beaf: 9:26am On Dec 10, 2010 |
Some of the posts here are soooooooooooooo funny!!! Some fools actually see humility and honesty as bad attributes for a leader to have. This clowns evidently prefer the likes of Atiku (caught pants downs stealing 40 billion in the US) or IBB ($12.4 billion oil windfall theft) or Tinubu (drugs). Thank God for GEJ, a leader who is honest, forthright and a gale of fresh air, the country is at last taking steps forward. I am happy for threads like this one, because they separate the true lovers of Nigeria from the godforsaken parasites who wish to continue the ra'pe of previous govts and the Pakistanisation of Nigeria with Boko Haram, Kala Kato, Maitatsine cults and Jos style pogroms. Shame on you! I made this post elsewhere, but its apt here; its all about the "experienced" politicians some clowns here are gunning for: Sanders’ dispatch read: “Pickard said that Nigerian entities control the lifting of many oil cargoes and there are some "very interesting" people lifting oil. Oil buyers would pay NNPC GMD Yar'Adua, Chief Economic Advisor Yakubu and the First Lady Turai Yar'Adua large bribes to lift oil. Pickard also reported an instance of the Attorney General Aondoakaa allegedly soliciting a $20 million bribe to sign a document. The International Oil Companies (IOC) are quite concerned about the "very flawed" new petroleum sector energy bill. The IOCs will be asking U.S., Dutch, and U.K. COMs to convey points on the bill to GON policymakers. This was one of the very first areas GEJ cleared up, hence the old actors hate him so much and are so bitter. It used to be a free for all for anyone to walk in, pay a bribe to the cabal and walk off with oil that was meant for the countries development. Both the lifting and importation (another lon and shocking story) areas were cleared and thats how come we are able to buy petrol for 65 Naira per litre (or less) without spending nights at fuel stations. It will never be business as usual again. [size=14pt]Goodluck Nigeria!!![/size] |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by 1025: 9:37am On Dec 10, 2010 |
now that jonathan in his usual way has denied this statements, what next? many of us here can never see beyond their nose. if u are not experienced, what are u doing in aso rock? ddc machines, 16 has been released and we are still waiting for the balance. this is a shame. no country behaves like this. nothing will be heard or done about this. jonathan's only option will be to resign. he is not behaving like a teacher in any way. he is not bold enough to rule nigeria. |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by squeeky: 9:48am On Dec 10, 2010 |
Beaf: Its obvious you're blind to issues on ground because u chose to be. This so called honest man, , Gave oil wells to his home state ILLEGALLY , Signed an agreement on zoning with his own hands and turn around to claim there was never anything like such , We know of the corruption case hanging on his wife , try to bribe the SNG group to support him , claim he is not competent enough to rule , Try to blame a region for a crime (Abuja Bombings) committed by his own people , The list is endless. Come on man be factual, you cant sell GEJ with sentiments, Nigerians are more intelligent than that. So much for an honest man. |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by Amacaco: 10:07am On Dec 10, 2010 |
GEJ did not get to the position he is now because he has "good political experience" or he was the best choice at the time. He is here now because GOD in his infinite Mercy and Grace chose him to be the President of Nigeria today. GEJ is conscious of this fact and said so humbly and honestly. When God chooses a leader, experience no longer counts because He is the experience you need. In addition, all the so-called "experienced" leaders we have seen at all levels of Government in this country, have failed to deliver and improve the well-being of the people. Rather, they have impoverished our people and siphoned our money to foreign lands. What we need is a God fearing Leader and not a leader with "Good Political experience". |
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: "I Dont Have Good Political Experience" by Altruist(m): 10:22am On Dec 10, 2010 |
Gej has brought himsef down,well atiku now has stuff 2 talk about |
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