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Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by bendazum: 6:52pm On Feb 10, 2020
TimFisher2:
undecided

I will try as much as possible not blast you

but what i see here is foolishness/insincerity of the highest order

your mum want to eat her cake and still have it

she has serious heart challenges,what stops her tendering her resignation letter to look after her health

No she will rather be cheating the system...,didn't she read the ethical code of teaching.."Teaching is a service to humanity"

please she should report to her new job immediately and stop flexing power with her fellow colleague

Let her bear in mind that Teachers reward is in heaven!

You must be silly.

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Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by iamsamadeyinka(m): 6:53pm On Feb 10, 2020
Which state did this happen?
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by bendazum: 6:57pm On Feb 10, 2020
kings59:
First and foremost, let us all not be sentimental or comment out of emotion.

We would like to know what your mother did.

Tell us the truth, because it it always good to here from both sides before making a conclusion.

We need to know what led to her suspension.


I don't want emotion or sentiments to take control of me, I wanna hear from the other side.

I believe op stated that clearly. The mum refused to collect transfer letter with good reasons and I believe they viewed it as an act of insubordination and thus suspended her.
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by DrTee1(m): 7:03pm On Feb 10, 2020
cutefy:


Sir, with due respect, you've got no point here. Forget about the grammar, becos that's not the message. Set aside his grammar and deal with the message. The op is in pains so leave him alone if you have nothing reasonable to say.
Just imagine if it's your mum who was treated this way, how would u have felt?

Hello Cutefy.

I'll try to address the subject now.

1. OP's Mum has been transferred (as a Head Teacher) from Primary School A to Primary School B.

2. Mama OP and OP wish to reject the transfer for three reasons.

A. The new school is a mega school with more staff, apparently more pupils and 3 large arms/subsects.

With that situation of greater number of personnel, there's bound to be greater friction between human beings working or schooling there. It is an inherent part of human nature.

B. School B is far from OP & Mama OP's residence.

C. Mama OP is a known hypertensive individual

Now, let's address 1, 2(a), 2(b) & 2(c) without allowing emotions to ride our judgement.

1. For a civil servant of 32 years working history it isn't strange to be posted from a smaller place / unit to a bigger responsibility, irrespective of location.

It isn't also unusual, for example, for the transfer to be from a local government office to one in the State Capital, for example, in a vertical ascendancy that comes with increased years of service or from a smaller establishment to a bigger one. That's quite common.

2(a) I see the above playing out here - except tar it is from a smaller school within a local government to a hybrid primary school arrangement within the same local government while retaining her position as a Head Teacher.

2(b) The location of a civil servant's transfer is ENTIRELY at the behest of the adminstrative staff and leadership of the Civil Service (Teaching Service Commission/ SUPEB in this case) .

One of the factors that has messed up education at the primary and secondary school level in Nigeria is that many teachers are too comfortable in a station/school. They become 'principalities' even as mid-level staff and challenge superior authority at will, be it Principal or anyone else from the Ministry.

I am not suggesting that such is the situation here. I am only being quite generic.

2(c). Indeed, I manage Hypertension professionally as a part of my daily responsibilities and I can confirm to OP that a significant percentage of post-menopausal black women have something known as Primary Hypertension or Idiopathic HTN, whichever you pick. Most women with a 32 year career around here are post menopausal i.e above 52 years of age. What's my point? Most teachers of OP's Mum's age - whether male or female really - are battling with one chronic disease or the other: Hypertension, Arthritis, Diabetes etc.

As long as a person is capable of remaining in thee service and working daily until the transfer, it would otherwise be a very weak ground to reject a statutory transfer on such ground as Hypertension, unfortunately.

I hope this helps.

Cheers.

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Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by DrTee1(m): 7:04pm On Feb 10, 2020
cutefy:


Sir, with due respect, you've got no point here. Forget about the grammar, becos that's not the message. Set aside his grammar and deal with the message. The op is in pains so leave him alone if you have nothing reasonable to say.
Just imagine if it's your mum who was treated this way, how would u have felt?

Hello Cutefy.

I'll try to address the subject now.

1. OP's Mum has been transferred (as a Head Teacher) from Primary School Y to Primary School Z.


2. Mama OP and OP wish to reject the transfer for three reasons.

A. The new school is a mega school with more staff, apparently more pupils and 3 large arms/subsects.

With that situation of greater number of personnel, there's bound to be greater friction between human beings working or schooling there. It is an inherent part of human nature.

B. School B is far from OP & Mama OP's residence.

C. Mama OP is a known hypertensive individual

Now, let's address 1, 2(a), 2(b) & 2(c) without allowing emotions to ride our judgement.

1. For a civil servant of 32 years working history it isn't strange to be posted from a smaller place / unit to a bigger responsibility, irrespective of location.

It isn't also unusual, for example, for the transfer to be from a local government office to one in the State Capital, for example, in a vertical ascendancy that comes with increased years of service or from a smaller establishment to a bigger one. That's quite common.

2(a) I see the above playing out here - except that it is from a smaller school within a local government to a hybrid primary school arrangement within the same local government while retaining her position as a Head Teacher.

2(b) The location of a civil servant's transfer is ENTIRELY at the behest of the administrative staff and leadership of the Civil Service (Teaching Service Commission/ SUPEB in this case) .

One of the factors that has messed up education at the primary and secondary school level in Nigeria is that many teachers are too comfortable in a station/school. They become 'principalities' even as mid-level staff and challenge superior authority at will, be it Principal or anyone else from the Ministry.

I am not suggesting that such is the situation here. I am only being quite generic.

2(c). Indeed, I manage Hypertension professionally as a part of my daily responsibilities and I can confirm to OP that a significant percentage of post-menopausal black women have something known as Primary Hypertension or Idiopathic HTN, whichever you pick. Most women with a 32 year career around here are post menopausal i.e above 52 years of age. What's my point? Most teachers of OP's Mum's age - whether male or female really - are battling with one chronic disease or the other: Hypertension, Arthritis, Diabetes etc.

As long as a person is capable of remaining in thee service and working daily until the transfer, it would otherwise be a very weak ground to reject a statutory transfer on such ground as Hypertension, unfortunately.

I hope this helps.

Cheers.


Cc @TradeCorner , @OlawaleBammie

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Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by doctuw(m): 7:05pm On Feb 10, 2020
ayoadeifee:
I Am writing this with my heart bleeding with too much pains, I need help!!!!! My mom has been working with the government as a teacher for the past thirty two years, she's upright and diligent and a very hardworking woman, she's the best teacher I grew up to know.

She was promoted to head teacher November last year after all she's due for it. In another school, the same local government, there are rifts and fights within that school which is school 1,2,3 which does not have anything to do with my mom, suddenly they called my mom from SUBEB, they want to transfer her to that school where they have been having loggerhead. But it's not that she doesn't want to go but my mom has health challenges. She's high blood pressure patient and the place of primary assignment is very far from our residence so she refused to collect the letter of transfer and she presented her doctor's report at SUBEB.

I forget to add that the other person they transferred to my mom school from the school they are having rifts was well known at SUBEB and was a very powerful person so she initially pointed where my mom was heading that she want that place or they transfer her back to her sch back, but my mom refused it, and since she has the back up of SUBEB, the chairman and almost everyone at that SUBEB came this morning and chased my mom out of her office saying she was suspended. They do not only cheated her but they also humiliated and violated her human right and harassed her publicly just because we don't know anybody from the government.

Meanwhile it's just within the local government, it has not reach the state level, At this present moment we don't know what to do. She has been so devastated and sad since morning. We have been praying but we still don't know what to do.
ask your mum what the civil service rules and regulations say about not reporting at a duty post and she should also explain what it means to refuse orders from your superiors.

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Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by Ofon0909(f): 7:06pm On Feb 10, 2020
In civil service, there is posting and transfer. The SUBEB chairman has every right to post your mum to another school. It's only unfortunate that she was taken away from her comfort zone. Suspension can lead to termination of appointment. It's a serious misconduct if you refuse to leave your present post to where you are sent.
I will advice her to go meet the SUBEB chairman and plead with him to withdraw the suspension letter. Let her just go to the new school. She can seek for a transfer later.
Note that suspension comes without payment of salary.

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Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by stickle(m): 7:07pm On Feb 10, 2020
franchasng:
cry


Op, go to Twitter, share this story as a thread, tag minister of education, tag presidency, tag SERVICOM, tag your state governor, tag all the necessary authorities and then use trending hash tags and beg Nigerians to retweet it and watch wonders happen.


It works now

Your mom's position will be restored but she must prepare for the spiritual battle that must come after she wins. Wipe your tears and do as I said, God will see your mom through this okay

The spiritual battle may not be easy to win.
If I will counsel, there may be blessings behind the seemingly bitterness.

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Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by HitSong: 7:11pm On Feb 10, 2020
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DrTee1:
Something is really wrong somewhere.

Aside that this story is from one perspective, another huge concern is the grammar: Lexis, structure, tenses, construction.

Mum is the best teacher you know. She is a primary school teacher. That suggests she teaches at the elementary level where one of the core subjects is English language.

I'm afraid you may just have 'fallen hand' very badly - in the Nigerian lingua - and you have not covered so much in glory, at least to buttress your best teacher assertion.

As to the matter at hand, there are established ways in the civil service to resolve disputes: Teaching Service Commission, Civil Service Commission, and at the extreme, the National Industrial Court.

However, excuses like distance of assignment from residence shouldn't arise, really. It isn't an excuse to be officially considered at all in that line of responsibility. If anything at all, it should be lobbied for, under the table, and not presented as a major issue.

Best wishes.


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Why can't you just Shut up if you don't have any sensible thing to say?

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Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by midnighter(f): 7:12pm On Feb 10, 2020
DrTee1:


I'll try to address the subject now.

shocked

So what you're trying to say is that Mummy OP has actually been promoted...?

Anyway, this is a good analysis. I hope she reads it.

It's funny how we often see things in the opposite of how they actually are, just because the situation involves somebody we hold dear.

We would be tempted to sympathise with them because of the way she told us what happened, but in reality, her mother's actions and justifications were totally wrong

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Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by IMASTEX: 7:15pm On Feb 10, 2020
Ijaycool:


Hmmm Mr Corrector of English, Course Rep of the English High Academy, you see your own mistakes?
Awon Prof.
Somebody dey wahala, you dey here dey grind grammar.
A excuse ko...

Meanwhile it's heartbreaking how we trivialize people's problem. I swear
Sensible comment & reply. I should buy you a drink for this. This is why the political leaders misbehave knowing his kind will always be distracted with trivial things.

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Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by HitSong: 7:17pm On Feb 10, 2020
DrTee1:
Oops!

It's quite easy to identify errors. A closer look would probably tell you those were typo errors.

A missing letter 'n' somewhere and another missing word 'have' elsewhere.

Come on!

I don't live on Nairaland and certainly didn't
exactly proofread. C'mon! That reply was in a jiffy.

Regardless, you'll possibly have realised, had you been attentive, that the most viable ways to resolve OP's worries were indeed preferred by me - devoid of emotions or sentiments.

In dealing with a crisis, sympathy or finger-pointing leads nowhere.


Shut up!
It's never a typo but ignorance and lack of knowledge...
No one is perfect!
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by Warmaterial(m): 7:19pm On Feb 10, 2020
GboyegaD:


Your story is quite difficult to read. Please, compose yourself and do all necessary editing to make it readable. I am sure it will help many to profer solutions / contribute their suggestions.
over sabi like say u no anything Empty brain
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by DrTee1(m): 7:21pm On Feb 10, 2020
wink cheesy grin

How about a round of applause? kiss

HitSong:

Shut up!
It's never a typo but ignorance and lack of knowledge...
No one is perfect!
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by GboyegaD(m): 7:25pm On Feb 10, 2020
emman44:


Na over sabi go kill some people. She asked for help not an English tutor.

No vex, under sabi somebody. If person no fit understand wetin she write, how dem wan help?
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by RPirez: 7:26pm On Feb 10, 2020
DrTee1:
Something is really wrong somewhere.

Aside that this story is from one perspective, another huge concern is the grammar: Lexis, structure, tenses, construction.

Mum is the best teacher you know. She is a primary school teacher. That suggests she teaches at the elementary level where one of the core subjects is English language.

I'm afraid you may just have 'fallen hand' very badly - in the Nigerian lingua - and you have not covered so much in glory, at least to buttress your best teacher assertion.

As to the matter at hand, there are established ways in the civil service to resolve disputes: Teaching Service Commission, Civil Service Commission, and at the extreme, the National Industrial Court.

However, excuses like distance of assignment from residence shouldn't arise, really. It isn't an excuse to be officially considered at all in that line of responsibility. If anything at all, it should be lobbied for, under the table, and not presented as a major issue.

Best wishes.

@bolded.

You just accused the OP of poor grammar while you're also guilty. What tha hell did you write up there @bolded?

Proximity
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by GboyegaD(m): 7:27pm On Feb 10, 2020
D1zion:
whatever, however since you all know what he or she is trying to say if you don't know how to help or Tue advice to give pls just read & pass.not that you'll all be here to castigate.

I tried making meaning out of it but I wasn't sure I understood her clearly. It will make no sense to give suggestions when I do not understand what she wrote so as not to complicate issues.
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by Vanzcharles(m): 7:28pm On Feb 10, 2020
DrTee1:
Something is really wrong somewhere.

Aside that this story is from one perspective, another huge concern is the grammar: Lexis, structure, tenses, construction.

Mum is the best teacher you know. She is a primary school teacher. That suggests she teaches at the elementary level where one of the core subjects is English language.

I'm afraid you may just have 'fallen hand' very badly - in the Nigerian lingua - and you have not covered so much in glory, at least to buttress your best teacher assertion.

As to the matter at hand, there are established ways in the civil service to resolve disputes: Teaching Service Commission, Civil Service Commission, and at the extreme, the National Industrial Court.

However, excuses like distance of assignment from residence shouldn't arise, really. It isn't an excuse to be officially considered at all in that line of responsibility. If anything at all, it should be lobbied for, under the table, and not presented as a major issue.

Best wishes.


If that is your major concern why not open a school specially for teaching people English language... You should understand her very well even though the write up is wrongly constructed that shows you are learned and sound in the language unless you are a newbie to the language.
Besides you also made mistakes in your write up .. Onye nkuzi���
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by lorhema(f): 7:29pm On Feb 10, 2020
Slawormir:


For government work ehnnnnn
There is no permanent place
Them must post and transfer you
So your mummy should be aware of that by now

Even the other person when them want post come your mummy place ehnnn them go also post am again from there one day no matter how powerful she is. The people when she know nor go remain for power for ever


Na so government work be
So i go advise you make you tell your mummy make she accept the posting...

This is the truth about this work setup. It's better to move to the new post and see how to manage things.

She has just three years to retirement and shouldn't do anything to mar her record.
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by 77up(m): 7:35pm On Feb 10, 2020
budaatum:
You are praying! angry angry

Has she not seen her union rep?
Has she sought legal advise?
Has she written to the Commissioner of Education, Head of Service, etc?

No , they are still praying so that those consultation can make themselves undecided


That "we are still praying" line really spoil the pity I think I may have on this issue, praying for what exactly? That's the extent at which religion has blinded us in this part of the world.


Am not saying prayer is bad but at least, there some necessary steps that needs to be taken before you can start prayer like those I just quoted here .
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by Neoteny(m): 7:35pm On Feb 10, 2020
Call Zullum
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by Nobody: 7:37pm On Feb 10, 2020
GerogeI:


Hello Ayo,
I guess this happened somewhere in the southwest.
So the problem is that your Mum , does not understand how things work in the civil service.

You simply cannot refuse to be transferred, that is gross insurbordination. She should not have done that, rather she should have lobbied like the people you mentioned.
You do not need to know someone personally to lobby them.

So what you guys need to do this. Find out the state Chairman of SUBEC, go through all your relations to see who knows him. Make an appointment, go with your Mum to make complaints to him. He or She will do something, especially on health ground, and maybe cancel the suspension by overriding the LGA chairman.
In any case, your Mum will not go back to her old school as she was at fault. But someone higher up can help lift the suspension and restore her dignity, and also maybe post her to a school that is not too far away. You guys as a family can also go and meet the LGA chairman of SUBEC, he can also have a rethink.

Remember in our local psychology, the first complainant is usually the favoured one. So be the first to complain at the next highest authority.

Further, next time, your mum needs tact. You do not just refuse work or posting under any formal work setup, as someone must do that job. Otherwise you will be immediately at fault and sackable. Rather you find ways to make your case heard, and mount pressure (Lobby).


Your sense wee not kee you...Agba wo! God bless your wisdom.
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by monimekaz(m): 7:42pm On Feb 10, 2020
ayoadeifee:
I Am writing this with my heart bleeding with too much pains, I need help!!!!! My mom has been working with the government as a teacher for the past thirty two years, she's upright and diligent and a very hardworking woman, she's the best teacher I grew up to know.

She was promoted to head teacher November last year after all she's due for it. In another school, the same local government, there are rifts and fights within that school which is school 1,2,3 which does not have anything to do with my mom, suddenly they called my mom from SUBEB, they want to transfer her to that school where they have been having loggerhead. But it's not that she doesn't want to go but my mom has health challenges. She's high blood pressure patient and the place of primary assignment is very far from our residence so she refused to collect the letter of transfer and she presented her doctor's report at SUBEB.

I forget to add that the other person they transferred to my mom school from the school they are having rifts was well known at SUBEB and was a very powerful person so she initially pointed where my mom was heading that she want that place or they transfer her back to her sch back, but my mom refused it, and since she has the back up of SUBEB, the chairman and almost everyone at that SUBEB came this morning and chased my mom out of her office saying she was suspended. They do not only cheated her but they also humiliated and violated her human right and harassed her publicly just because we don't know anybody from the government.

Meanwhile it's just within the local government, it has not reach the state level, At this present moment we don't know what to do. She has been so devastated and sad since morning. We have been praying but we still don't know what to do.

You are doing what? It is because they you her children are suwegbe, that's why they had the gut to harass your mother. My name alone, those people even the woman will not dare
I'm a cool headed boy, but once I want to Bleep up, I will make sure you tell my story in pains and sorrows. Is that what they want to get themselves into??
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by GboyegaD(m): 7:42pm On Feb 10, 2020
greatseed:
U pple must Sha show yourselves to be noticed for the wrong reasons... You can simply summarize what the OP has said abt the mum, must u crucify, you obviously have an idea what he is talking abt MR LINGUISTIC... IF U DON'T THEN KEEP SHUT

Why are you so pained over my comment? You can go ahead and proffer solutions to the OP since you have a full grasp of what she wrote.
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by dominique(f): 7:43pm On Feb 10, 2020
TradeCorner:



Forcefully dragging her out is humiliation. Dominiue

I know
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by GboyegaD(m): 7:44pm On Feb 10, 2020
Qoko:

Shut up your trash, we understood the story properly, no need for amendment or editing, Mr Bigot as if English is your papa language.

You never can tell as such, you have no reason(s) to feel unnecessarily pained. You can go ahead and give your suggestion(s) and disregard my comment. It wasn't addressed to you.
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by Lekison(m): 7:44pm On Feb 10, 2020
DrTee1:


No vex. wink

We all learn daily, I guess.

There were significant areas of concern in the originating piece. Nothing is more depressing than the vitiation of the educational system in Nigeria - at least for me.

OP's post and the situation presented screamed all that quite loudly. It might not have been particularly heartwarming to OP to receive my initial critical feedback, which was the first half of my response.

However, it is undeniable that it does address matters of education in Nigeria, especially at its most basic or elementary level, where the matter of interest itself lies.

In the end, I did point OP in the right direction to resolve the conflict. Win-win for everyone, after all.
One love
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by GboyegaD(m): 7:44pm On Feb 10, 2020
Warmaterial:
over sabi like say u no anything Empty brain

Pikin wey know something, I don see you. Oya, waka go play.
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by budaatum: 7:46pm On Feb 10, 2020
77up:
No , they are still praying so that those consultation can make themselves undecided


That "we are still praying" line really spoil the pity I think I may have on this issue, praying for what exactly? That's the extent at which religion has blinded us in this part of the world.


Am not saying prayer is bad but at least, there some necessary steps that needs to be taken before you can start prayer like those I just quoted here .
Don't mind them!

And a certain myobjective claims he has been following buda and in his opinion of buda, "some imaginary god will provide them with food and every other basic thing they will need" as if manna falls from heaven into anyone's mouth!
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by TradeCorner: 7:46pm On Feb 10, 2020
dominique:


I know


And so suddenly you can't see the humiliation Dominique, what if I pull your chicks through the phone?
Re: SUBEB: My Mother Was Cheated And Harassed At Her Workplace by SavonEric: 7:47pm On Feb 10, 2020
HitSong:
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Why can't you just Shut up if you don't have any sensible thing to say?
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