Did Ciroma and his ilk ever think of that before trying to impose Atiku on Nigerians.

your points are well taken but do u really think that Nigeria is ripe for this? In what terms. . .literacy, honesty of purpose, quality of life? your epistle made a good reading but bros, in dis statement

, u shud know dat u and I are not members of any of the political parties, we can only vote for whomever d parties select as candidates. At dis level, our hands are tied. . .they get untied at the general elections only that by then, we may be left with d worst humans available. We only choose b/w d devil and d deep blue sea.

ahidjo:

@ Kobojunkie,
One thing one has learned in this forum and several other fora is not to open oneself up to endless arguement with people that lack moderate sense of creativity and objectivity in thinking; they write good English but that's where it ends. They are ignorant and are proud of their ignorance. Their reasoning falls below acceptable international standards. Even a primary 5 pupil in any advanced country(countries where people reason well and objectively too) knows that a state house of Assembly, whether they are all of the same party or not, has no business with passing resolutions on the activities of any party. They pass resolutions pertaining to good governance of the state. They think that because Ciroma and his group did it (BTW Ciroma group is not any state house of Assembly. They merely selected a presidential aspirant from the north so as to give their region a fair chance of being the party's candidate. Whether the person they selected is the best remains another issue; if he wins, we still have elections coming up for people to reject or affirm him) that other groups must follow even when it sounds silly. Do not give up and never be part of this silly movement that is aimed at enthroning a man that has proved his incompetence over and over again. High IQ is not common. NUF SAID

1025:

@babasoty,
how do u mean brother? that is the problem. information is key. ciroma and co wanted an agreement between pdp candidates from the north. do not forget that sambo is in the race as vice president and has nothing to do with ciroma. there is ribadu, there is buhari all from the north. uncle, if u are still waiting for any man or woman to decide for u on who to vote, then i don't have no business discussing with u.
i wld rather discuss with ppl of matured minds who are capable of making their own decissions.
those imbeciles in the house that have brought the state to its shameful situations can never ever make my decissions for.
in the whole yrs in the house, just mention one thing u can hold on to as their achievement in the state apart from deciding for u who to vote for.

@Donmeca,
if any man in the delegation is not informed enough to make his decissions, then we are heading to a crash. candidates are allowed to campeign and convience voters both at primaries and the main elections. it is now left for these voters to digest their massages and persons.
we must start making efforts in our lives, i mean personal efforts.
let us make this idea of someone remote controlling u history.
who among them is telling us these stories without getting paid for it.
how can u listen to someone who collects bribe before advising u.
who is representing u in the house and what manner of man he is? what has he done in your area to worth u following him shipishly?
if any of us can come here, read and write, that one can as well read news and follow events to know who to vote for. in case there are ppl who can't do this, it will be a very bad practise to count all of us for this jokes.
when obasanjo wanted third term, achike udenwa the then imo state gov was the first to endorse obasanjo. the manufacturers association of nigeria then was led by Eng. charles ugwu(rokana industries - makers of uzii waters and jodarn brushes - imo state too) was the first organistion to endorse him. these are the type of followership u want us to look up to right? while ugwu was gunning to be the next gov of imo state, achike udenwa was to be named a minister. both men served as ministers as compensation for their roles.
these are the type of information ppl shld have before looking at these disgrace of ppl in the house.
Factual!

No matter the influence of Ciroma, he cannot make a law. The Imo House of Assembly can make a law that environmetal sanitation should start at 4am and end at 5pm every saturday! Until it is repealed, nobody will be able to get married on saturdays again. Can Ciroma and co pull it off. Obasanjo is likely to be influential, but I can abuse him now face-to-face. I could not do that 4 years ago. Ohaneze has adopted Johnathan the way Ciroma and Co have done, nobody queried that. Let OPC or Massob endorse anybody, nobody will say it is illegal
Sarah Jubril did not join the consensus arrangement. Can they enforce it on her? No.
The Imo Assembly overlooked one point. Atiku's chance of getting PDP ticket, mathematically speaking, is not zero. Suppose he now gets it, what will happen to their resolution, will they ask people not to vote for their party's presidential candidate?
And long term? An Iboman should become the president in 2015. But suppose several houses of assembly in the North pass resolutions rejecting the candidacy of the Iboman, what will these staunch supporters of this misguided resolution say?
Somebody said it is the turn of minorities, are Ibos minorities? Then the usual meaningless statements - the North has ruled for years and they have done nothing! What about Alams, Lucky, Ibori, Akala, Gbenga Daniel etc. Somebody from Imo has just said no good governor has ruled Imo state since 1983. And what are the achievements of Obj given the resources at his disposal (record oil prices, receipt from sale of 4 GSM licences, privatisation proceeds, money recovered fromn Abacha loot etc). ! more point on Obj - he came in 1999, 2 years after Qatar Air was set up! What happened to his Virgin Nigeria, Transcorp. I remember the air crashes instead (Sosoliso, Bellview, EAS, ADC etc). This digression is just to demonstrate that both the North and South have their scoundrels

Most of those who oppose what the Imo legislators did are just clutching to the fact that nobody should decide for them on who to vote--- Good point, my grouse is why didn't Ciroma and co allow the PDP delegates decide on who to vote for from the North, the pattern of the unwise men votes shows it was all in favour of their own men and vendetta on others, amongst the unwise men those from the middle belt voted for saraki and unfortunately they were just 2 of them, the actions of Ciroma and co shouldn't just be shrugged aside as the rambling and threats of some old men, IBB, Gusau, and Saraki were forced to withdraw from the race based on the actions of these unwise men so also the millions of supporters they have, where they given any chance-- Nope, Atiku is blowing hot today because of the undemocratic means in which he emerged the Northern candidate and everyone is keeping mute to it now its the turn of the legislators in Imo state and all of a sudden we now remember that it is an undemocratic move, a charade, it's not their job, that wasn't what they were paid to do----Haba, what's wrong is wrong, the process that brought about Atiku is wrong, the line in which the imo legislators are towing is wrong, but if you come out here telling me what Ciroma and co did is right then for heaven's sake you have no reason to condemn the legislators, just as the same way Ciroma and co can't force everyone in the North to vote Atiku so the same way the Legislators cant force the citizens of Imo state to vote against Atiku--

1025:


@babasoty,
i find it hard to believe that a state legislature is saying this kind of thing but it is more painful that you cannot differentiate between ciroma and imo state house of assembly. it is a shame that such comparison is coming.
what is tribal politics if every state can come up with a resolution who they will vote? what will happen if the nothern states pass resolutions against an igbo presidency?
pls, let us make use of our senses.

@babasoty,
i find it hard to believe that a state legislature is saying this kind of thing but it is more painful that you cannot differentiate between ciroma and imo state house of assembly. it is a shame that such comparison is coming.
what is tribal politics if every state can come up with a resolution who they will vote? what will happen if the nothern states pass resolutions against an igbo presidency?
pls, let us make use of our senses.

The all-PDP state legislature members also warned Igbo governors and other sons and daughters against accep-ting the vice presidential slot being dangled before them by the former vice president.

babasoty:

Most of those who oppose what the Imo legislators did are just clutching to the fact that nobody should decide for them on who to vote--- Good point, my grouse is why didn't Ciroma and co allow the PDP delegates decide on who to vote for from the North, the pattern of the unwise men votes shows it was all in favour of their own men and vendetta on others, amongst the unwise men those from the middle belt voted for saraki and unfortunately they were just 2 of them, the actions of Ciroma and co shouldn't just be shrugged aside as the rambling and threats of some old men, IBB, Gusau, and Saraki were forced to withdraw from the race based on the actions of these unwise men so also the millions of supporters they have, where they given any chance-- Nope, Atiku is blowing hot today because of the undemocratic means in which he emerged the Northern candidate and everyone is keeping mute to it now its the turn of the legislators in Imo state and all of a sudden we now remember that it is an undemocratic move, a charade, it's not their job, that wasn't what they were paid to do----Haba, what's wrong is wrong, the process that brought about Atiku is wrong, the line in which the imo legislators are towing is wrong, but if you come out here telling me what Ciroma and co did is right then for heaven's sake you have no reason to condemn the legislators, just as the same way Ciroma and co can't force everyone in the North to vote Atiku so the same way the Legislators cant force the citizens of Imo state to vote against Atiku--


Yes Ciroma cant make the law, but his actions seems to be the Law of the North, would you stop Atiku if he wins the PDP primaries--Nope, you wouldn't.

phreakabit:

Umm, I dont see anything wrong with what they did. I for one don't think we need a

1, F.A.G ( The rumor has been around, for a while)

2, Typical Aboki

3, Hater of the Igbo race

4, Should be convict ( had he stayed in the USA)

As our president, for now. Lets not forget, when he was a VP, nothing was done for "US". Why do you think, he would he change now? He might favor the Westerners,due to his affiliation to them maritally, but certainly not "US".