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Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by senatordave1(m): 5:37pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Precious4real50:Recognized by who? What are his feats |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Macphenson: 5:38pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1: Is Ikpeazu a drug dealer? Are we even comparing Ikpeazu as a great politician? Ikpeazu is a disaster of a governor |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by senatordave1(m): 5:38pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Haywhysat:Or.zik became premier forcefully |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by senatordave1(m): 5:42pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Precious4real50:Awo disciples still exist.his brand of politics still exist.do we still have zikists? Awo left legacies in the west,what legacies did zik leave behind? Awo defeated zik twice when they contested 3 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by nku5: 5:42pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Tinubu wouldn't have qualified to be Awo or Zik's gate man. Tinubu is not even qualified to be houseboy to Awo's boys like Jakande whose legacies we can see in Lagos even after forty years since he was governor of Lagos before Buhari overthrew the 2nd Republic and threw him in jail. What is Tinubu's legacy besides from putting Lagos in his pocket and milking its resources dry or positioning his olodo, incompetent sycophants like Fashola the minister of darkness, Aregbesola the clown or Lai Mohammed the father of liars in positions that are too big for them 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Precious4real50(f): 5:43pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1:For federal government to built a house for him is more than recognition ![]() I still remain Ada ogwashi ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Agboriotejoye(m): 5:44pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1: I don't know what you mean by national influence. Tinubu climbed to national scene in 2015 with the advent of buhari. An OBJ has been on that scene since 1999 so if you're talking about influence, tinubu will be far behind. Even saraki was chairman of NGF before becoming a senator and then senate president which is a cumulative 12 yrs. David Mark spent eight years as senate president while GEJ spent a cumulative of eight years as president and VP so if you mean national visibility as influence all these people are ahead of tinubu so far. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by senatordave1(m): 5:45pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Precious4real50:You have not told us of any national achievement |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Precious4real50(f): 5:48pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1:How many federal institutions is named after awolowo compare to zik?You can't talk about Africa without talking about great zik of Africa. How many Africa know awolowo compare to zik?when you talk about zik you talk about Mandela not local champion awolowo. I still remain Ada ogwashi ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Agboriotejoye(m): 5:51pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Iyiataata92: There's a lot of things I agree with in your post. Awolowo was more of a knife edged politician. A transformational leader who believed his way was the best. He never excelled in the kind of horse trading or negotiations politicians like zik or Bello excelled at. Which is why he moved like a lone ranger. So, in terms of politics, you can be very correct in your analysis but in terms of leadership, he towers far above zik or Ahmadu Bello. |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by senatordave1(m): 5:52pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye:You are measuring it in one direction.am looking at several parameters.you are too obsessed with obj an accidental leader.tinubu has produced more politicians than any other politician since 1999.apart from tinubu,which ex govetnor of 1999 is still so successful and influential? Tinubu conquered the southwest politocally as an opposition figure.tinubu has never lost lagos,tinubu was instrumental to buhari's victory twice.tinubu has even assisted some politicians outside the west to victory.all the things tinubu did,he did it without holding political office.can saraki or obj or gej do that given same circumstances? 2 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by senatordave1(m): 5:53pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye:Yes that is why awo is more relevant and revered more than the rest |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Agboriotejoye(m): 5:53pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Precious4real50:I'm sure you'll agree that most of the criteria you've chosen can't be indicative of being a brilliant politician or leader. |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by senatordave1(m): 5:54pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Precious4real50:What local and myopic reasoning.i dont need you here please 1 Like |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Precious4real50(f): 5:54pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1:Zik played a national politic that almost dominate awolowo in west before he introduce tribal politics.Zik is well recognized in Africa and beyond compare to local champion awolowo.Even obj of yesterday is more recognized in Africa than awolowo ![]() I still remain Ada ogwashi ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Agboriotejoye(m): 5:55pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1:But you rated Ahmadu Bello above him in your Op and besides if you're talking about being a politician, it's clear those two are better at the game than Awo. 1 Like |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by senatordave1(m): 5:55pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye:Overall politics.politics is very wide not narrow.ahmadu bello to me towers above awo while tinubu is the ultimate |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by senatordave1(m): 5:57pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Precious4real50:Can obj win his ward? Is it about international recognition |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Precious4real50(f): 5:58pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye:Zik is a leader that was far recognized in Africa than awolowo that was only recognized in western Nigeria. When it come to nationalist zik and Mandela are still the most respectful Africa men on earth till today. I still remain Ada ogwashi ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by adekolaelect(m): 5:59pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Franzinni:But you ![]() |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by XANDERBOY85: 5:59pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Macphenson: It says all that needs to be said about ‘one Nigeria’ if a dubious character like Tinubu is held up as the ‘greatest politician’ of the moment! ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Franzinni: 6:01pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
adekolaelect:his fellow members right ... Anyway you know it takes one to know one ... They are all in it together |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by XANDERBOY85: 6:03pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1: Never use the words winning and election in the same sentence when talking of the present political dispensation bequeathed to Nigeria by Buhari and his thieving horde of minions! 2 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Precious4real50(f): 6:03pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1: ![]() ![]() ![]() I still remain Ada ogwashi ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Agboriotejoye(m): 6:04pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1:I'm not obsessed with OBJ and I don't know what you mean by accidental leader. OBJ is still the smartest and most widely recognised and respected democratic leader we've ever had as a nation. Consider that he hosted two sitting US presidents while Buhari for example is yet to host even a US vice president. The best he has gotten so far is the secy of state. That Tinubu has produced more politicians is debatable but what is not debatable is the spread. You mentioned national politics. Most politicians from Tinubu's stable are south west, Lagos to be precise. OBJ's disciples are more diverse with spread all over Nigeria. It is true that he's the only one standing from his class of 99 especially in terms of still holding his state by the jugular. I don't know if that counts in terms of national politics neither can it be counted as a plus for him. As for those other achievements you counted, I think what has worked for him is actually being out of office and the massive financial chest at his disposal. None of those have any bearing on national politics. They are regional at best. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by peeddy(m): 6:09pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
The only thing I can say about his popularity is that the baba wey cook am come follow fry am on top |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Eastlink(m): 6:13pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Indomie generation comparing Great Zik with Awo and Ahmadu Bello! What a shame. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by huptin(m): 6:17pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Precious4real50: Awolowo way Ikoyi, Awolowo road in Ikeja both roads are verrrry strategic to the commercial capital of Nigeria and more people use them in a day than the number of people that sees Zik's monument in a month |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Dedetwo(m): 6:19pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1: Of course, tribal politics still exist. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by Rumxy(m): 6:19pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
senatordave1:Based on legacies, Awo trumps Zik and Bello but based on overall politics and influence across Nigeria and Africa, they are no match to Zik. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Tinubu nigeria's greatest politician? by adekolaelect(m): 6:21pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye:you try but trash !!!!there is different between political fortunate office holders and political structure builders like Tinubu.It is unfortunate to relate Tinubu with people like Obj,saraki and the rest which his( Tinubu )political force relegated to no body in Nigeria politics .Those who feeling his political force knew who is he not those who their last hope and strategies is only to comment on medias .Tinubu is not a political office holder but he control many things in governmental and political activities in Nigeria .
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