ADint:

^^^^ . . . those are the points exactly!

The 'opposition' will always attack any budget without being specific on how they would do things differently, and this happens the world over! UK, US, Germany etc!

So Mr Atiku, where are you going to find N1.33 Trillion in savings/cuts from

Jimmy Boy:

While I will never vote for Atiku under any guise, because has always beemn part of the cabal that has continued to make this nation to grow at a very slow rate, but we can nut sweep the issues raised unde carpet.

These are facts, except GEJ team can come out to claims that the figures used for the analysis are false, otherwise Mr President may be clueless about how to move this Country forward.

so whom do we vote for?

richidinho:

ATIKU is not that intelligent
he must have hired an international expert to help him out

etum-egbo:

this whole senerio is being masterminded by Atiku in order to show that if given the opportunity he is going to be the best. Don't let us forget that Atiku was in power as a VP for 8 good years with no good road, electricity, inflation was on the high side, poor educational system, no employment etc. today he wants to come back as a president with lots of criticism in his opponent(who happens to be a virgin in politics). The truth is Atiku represents the old generational  politician and as such HAS NOTHING TO OFFER. pls any one who is a suppoter of Atiku shld ask him what happen when he was VP and the chirman of BPE. where does he got the money to pay $1m to his foreign lecturers on monthly basis within nigeria state? for everyone information, Atiku is more corrupt then his former boss (OBJ) the facts are there. He is a thief with many faces.

richidinho:

If that does not satisfy you, perhaps you need to take a closer look at Atiku's other businesses. He owns, unarguably, the most successful indigenous oil service firm in Nigeria. Read the BBC report in the link below and you'll get a clearer picture. At least Atiku has strings of business to prove the source of his wealth. Abeg point out what GEJ has to prove what he and his wife own. Stop hating, deal with the real issues.

basket mouth keep implicating your so call boss
how much does a custom officer earn to be able to buy an oil well, if not 4 PTDF fund he mismanaged
GEJ is a leader, he doesn't need all that wealth (vanity upon vanity is VANITY).

richidinho:

If that does not satisfy you, perhaps you need to take a closer look at Atiku's other businesses. He owns, unarguably, the most successful indigenous oil service firm in Nigeria. Read the BBC report in the link below and you'll get a clearer picture. At least Atiku has strings of business to prove the source of his wealth. Abeg point out what GEJ has to prove what he and his wife own. Stop hating, deal with the real issues.

basket mouth keep implicating your so call boss
how much does a custom officer earn to be able to buy an oil well, if not 4 PTDF fund he mismanaged
GEJ is a leader, he doesn't need all that wealth (vanity upon vanity is VANITY).

dayokanu:

If Atiku is corrupt or he stole money why has GEJ not prosecuted him?

[b]That means GEJ is aiding and abetting Atiku corruption and therefore not fit to be president.[/b]Yoruba people would say "The accomplice is more culpable than the thief" "Eni gbe epo laja ko jale bi eni to gba sile"

This is the economic debate I have been asking for. Thank God atiku has been keeping this campaign process honest.

But it would have been nice if this whole debate was live on TV. That way we will know if Atiku is as brilliant as he sounds these days and if Jonathan can think on his feet on any issue whatsoever.

dayokanu:

If Atiku is corrupt or he stole money why has GEJ not prosecuted him?

That means GEJ is aiding and abetting Atiku corruption and therefore not fit to be president.

Yoruba people would say "The accomplice is more culpable than the thief" "Eni gbe epo laja ko jale bi eni to gba sile"

Atiku/Soludo were arrow-heads of the OBJ administration under which recurrent expenditures ballooned. The damaging effects were hidden away because oil money was flowing at the speed of light. They lent the funds to their friends who took it to Dubai, and so on. . . Like a tumor fed by a large artery, they laid huge pipes to siphon Nigeria's oil earnings by crooked means.

The oil price collapsed, revenues dwindled, but how do you cut off recurrent expenditures without destroying the economy? You can't. You don't. You are forced to both cut back a little and borrow a lot.

In the same shoes the Atiku/Soludo combination would be doing worse than the GEJ/Aganga combination. Soludo sat at the central bank as the economy collapsed, unwilling to admit that the banks were failing. Atiku used mirrors to move Nigeria's money around to his and his friends benefits.

For some reason people think our condition is unique in this regard. The fact is that if you spend without saving during a period of abundance, as sure as day comes a period of want is coming, then you will have nothing to fall back on - it is a universal law. The story of the 7 years of abundance and 7 years of famine in ancient Egypt is really a story about the recognition of boom/bust cycles that characterize national economies. This same scenario is what happened to the world's greatest economy - USA- from 2001-2007, and from 2008-now. The differences are:
1) The USA has a structurally sound economic foundation;
2) As the USA put in place short-term spending & borrowing to revive its economy with great difficulty, it is also putting in place fundamental restructuring in infrastructure, auto-industry, energy and education that will eventually allow production-based growth to return;
3) Corrupt people who took advantage of the system are being prosecuted. New laws are being written, etc.

In Nigeria's case, the foundations of our economy are weak or non-existent so we need not just fundamental restructuring, we need new foundations for growth in all the above areas. Currently, our economy doesn't produce much - we take oil from the ground and sell it using foreign companies (who steal us blind by the way), but we produce nothing beyond what our farmer's grow from their day-in-day-out hard labor. Guess what, the same corrupt people that destroyed and continue to destroy our economy are the same ones running for office & pretending to have some magic wand.

It is easy for Atiku to criticize, and he may be right. The real question is WOULD HE HAVE DONE THINGS DIFFERENTLY? Next time he writes, let him state WHAT SHOULD BE DONE INSTEAD to be taken seriously.

anonimi:

the same yorubas say that "when pikin hand never hold cutlass well well, he nor dey ask wetin kill im papa" t'owo omode ko ba ti te eku ida, k'ibere iku t'opa baba e.

only fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
in due season I'm sure GEJ will prosecute Atiku and others including our relations and friends who are also thieves and we celebrate and hang around them for favours instead of educating them

anonimi:

the same yorubas say that "when pikin hand never hold cutlass well well, he nor dey ask wetin kill im papa" t'owo omode ko ba ti te eku ida, k'ibere iku t'opa baba e.

only fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
in due season I'm sure GEJ will prosecute Atiku and others including our relations and friends who are also thieves and we celebrate and hang around them for favours instead of educating them

anonimi:

the same yorubas say that "when pikin hand never hold cutlass well well, he nor dey ask wetin kill im papa" t'owo omode ko ba ti te eku ida, k'ibere iku t'opa baba e.

only fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
in due season I'm sure GEJ will prosecute Atiku and others including our relations and friends who are also thieves and we celebrate and hang around them for favours instead of educating them

kayci_d77:

A lot of people in this Forum are very dumb if ATIKU a man with ordinary Diploma can use their head, A Man who finish Nigeria Custom, selling Seized Goods. He was this intelligent still he was busy stealing PTDF money, A lot of Nigerians are Morons. It is my Brother Soludo who wrote that and when Atiku become president he will be very very irrelevant in his govern ment, PPL shine your eyes. A Dull good man is better than a smart Criminal

kayci_d77:

A lot of people in this Forum are very dumb if ATIKU a man with ordinary Diploma can use their head,  A Man who finish Nigeria Custom, selling Seized Goods. He was this intelligent still he was busy stealing PTDF money,  A lot of Nigerians are Morons. It is my Brother Soludo who wrote that and when Atiku become president he will be very very irrelevant in his govern ment, PPL shine your eyes. A Dull  good man is better than a smart Criminal

dayokanu:

If Atiku is corrupt or he stole money why has GEJ not prosecuted him?

That means GEJ is aiding and abetting Atiku corruption and therefore not fit to be president.

Yoruba people would say "The accomplice is more culpable than the thief" "Eni gbe epo laja ko jale bi eni to gba sile"

9ijaMan:

Intelligent people would at least read through contribution before making comments. You have justthrown in another unfounded allegation which is completely off topic. Is this what all the team GEJ guys have to offer? The best you guys can do is to descend into the gutters and spew falsehoods an dumb name calling. Stay on topic or keep mute and read from learn from sensible posts.

kayci_d77:

A lot of people in this Forum are very dumb if ATIKU a man with ordinary Diploma can use their head, A Man who finish Nigeria Custom, selling Seized Goods. He was this intelligent still he was busy stealing PTDF money, A lot of Nigerians are Morons. It is my Brother Soludo who wrote that and when Atiku become president he will be very very irrelevant in his govern ment, PPL shine your eyes. A Dull good man is better than a smart Criminal

kayci_d77:

All these Yoruba ppl in thisforum think with their Anus, OBJ did not prosecute Atiku, then you want Jonathan who did not kno how the "theifing" process b/w OBJ and Atiku started, to carry the wahala for his head, Una dey Craze, Bloody betrayals. I know you ppl will bretray the SS just as u did to SE.

anonimi:

the same yorubas say that "when pikin hand never hold cutlass well well, he nor dey ask wetin kill im papa" t'owo omode ko ba ti te eku ida, k'ibere iku t'opa baba e.

only fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
in due season I'm sure GEJ will prosecute Atiku and others including our relations and friends who are also thieves and we celebrate and hang around them for favours instead of educating them

kayci_d77:

All these Yoruba ppl in thisforum think with their Anus, OBJ did not prosecute Atiku, then you want Jonathan who did not kno how the "theifing" process b/w OBJ and Atiku started, to carry the wahala for his head, Una dey Craze, Bloody betrayals. I know you ppl will bretray the SS just as u did to SE.