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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by AhoadaRivers: 8:32pm On May 19, 2020
senatordave1:


Sorry,I suppose tag you.you are an intellectual.but I don't think a book written by njoku should be the only reasonable explanation.mind you,he also went to a course abroad so I don't see why his juniors should overtake him.sounds funny

Dirty tribalistic yoruba moslem urchin pretending to be 'objective'. We all know you started this thread.

It is the promote the usual 'SS must hate Ibo' narrative that you yoruba love so much.

Like I said earlier, if you yoruba want us in the SS to hate SE Ibos, you must come prostrate to us, cry very hard and physically swallow our shiiit after rolling it in ewedu soup. Then we can have a deal. grin

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Christistruth00: 8:35pm On May 19, 2020
superlightning:


You are still going in circles. Come straight so I can address your grievance.

FYI, A head of state does not answer to a former head of state. Who would ignore an Oxford trained military officer? Ojukwu is not a person to be ignored.

Ojukwu was part of Ironsi's coup but that is a story for another day. Once those Eastern Region minority Officers knew what was happening they were happy to remain with Gowon and not have anyone play ludo with their lives as well as their Careers. Only Effiong stayed with Ojukwu.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by ProT: 8:59pm On May 19, 2020
Christistruth00:


If Wellington Bassey's career had not been sabotaged by Zik and his NCNC Ministers in order to produce Ironsi as head of Army he would have been head of the Army in Jan 1966 and the Coups and Civil War would not have happened. His promotional trainings were delayed to make sure Ironsi ended up as head of the Army Zik and his Ministers didn't trust the Calabar man to be in charge of the Army .Zik later complained that Gen Ironsi should have made W.Bassey's Governor of the Eastern Region and not Ojukwu who was by far his Junior.
The same Zik who (according to you) sAbOtAgEd Bassey's career, was also the same Zik who complained that Bassey, instead of Ojukwu should have been made governor of the Eastern region by Ironsi?

Hmm!
Bro, don't u think Covid-organics should suffice?

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by proeast(m): 9:01pm On May 19, 2020
senatordave1:


He was a Fulani prince man,the son of a first class emir and the rulers of the north were always going to be Fulanis.at least,him and gowon were on the same rank thougj gowon senior him.it was that obvious.Gowon was lucky to be head of state above murtala who was favoured by the northern aristocracy.in 1975,he got what he wanted for so long

You people really have a very big problem indeed. Just look at what you shamelessly wrote! The same person that created a cynical thread to ask why someone in the East was bypassed in favour of another person of lower rank is also justifying why another person was bypassed in the north for another who is of lower rank.

So, if it was done in the north, there is nothing wrong with it but when it is done in the East it becomes a crime. Even when there are two other Igbos who were bypassed as well, it is not enough not to call Igbos out but he has an already made excuse for the northerners!

I don't know if what is causing all these rubbish is due to irrational hate for the Igbos or an unconscious slavish attitude to always defend the northerners as always right.

So shameful indeed!!

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Christistruth00: 9:07pm On May 19, 2020
ProT:

The same Zik who (according to you) sAbOtAgEd Bassey's career, was also the same Zik who complained that Bassey, instead of Ojukwu should have been made governor of the Eastern region by Ironsi?

Hmm!
Bro, don't u think Covid-organics should suffice?


Zik confessed that he had complained to Gen Ironsi about Ojukwu being made Eastern Region governor before Bassey,Effiong,Kurubo, Njoku,Imoh, and Wey his Military Seniors only after about a million people had died in the disastrous Civil War that followed.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by ProT: 9:14pm On May 19, 2020
Yujin:

Lies, lies, lies. Bassey, Ironsi and Ademulegun were commissioned the same year 1949 though he joined the army in 1936.
Ziks excerpt you posted dwelt solely on the perceived misappointment of Ojukwu by Ironsi as the Military Governor of the Eastern region instead of the other his seniors from the region. It has nothing to do with why Ironsi emerged ahead of Bassey as the GOC of the Nigerian Army.
We're very vigilant today.
That dude is confusional!
He is deliberately mixing things up, using a real historical occurrence to try to give credibility to his blatant lies.

How evil, people can be!

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Yujin(m): 9:18pm On May 19, 2020
ProT:

That dude is a confusional!
He is deliberately mixing things up, using a real historical occurrence to try to give credibility to his blatant lies.

How evil, people can be!
We shall leave nothing unresponded for posterity sake. Get yourself prepared.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by proeast(m): 9:18pm On May 19, 2020
Everyone who is discernible enough knows that the only reason why the north is riding roughshod all over the rest of the country is due to the afonjas.

Let's look at it critically, who are the people criticizing how Nigeria is being bastardized? The Igbos! Who are the people condemning and sabotaging their efforts in trying to challenge the status quo? The afonjas! Now, who benefits with the squabbles going on between the two? The abo.kis!

Anyone with an above average IQ knows that the moment these two tribes should speak with one voice the northerners will have no choice than to listen but due to irrational hate and bigotry, they are willing to let the country go to the dogs while playing second fiddle provided the Igbos are holding the short end of the stick.

The same people that were demanding for restructuring over the years have suddenly gone quiet even when common sense should inform that being vocal in demanding for it now that Igbos are threatening the very existence of the country would force them to accept it. Instead they are okay with demonizing the Igbos in the eyes of the north as well as the minorities while desperately seeking to be compensated with an unmerited presidency for serving the interests of the north.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Yujin(m): 9:20pm On May 19, 2020
Christistruth00:



Zik confessed that he had complained to Gen Ironsi about Ojukwu being made Eastern Region governor before Bassey,Effiong,Kurubo, Njoku,Imoh, and Wey his Military Seniors only after about a million people had died in the disastrous Civil War that followed.
That is not what this thread is about. Open another thread to that effect and we shall slug it out there. Bunch of hateful vermins.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by ProT: 9:40pm On May 19, 2020
Christistruth00:


W.U Bassey was Commissioned 2 months before Ironsi . Ogundipe (not Ademulegun) was Commissioned on the same day as Ironsi. Bassey had joined the Army a good 7 years before Ironsi. If Bassey's Promotions were not delayed he world have been eligible to be Head of the Army and be Governor of the Eastern Region before Ironsi and Ojukwu . I love all Nigerians but Tribalism is evil and has cost us a Civil War already. Bassey's problem was that he was considered to be an Eyo-Ita man because he was from Calabar like him. Zik and his NCNC Ministers preferred Ironsi though they both came from the East and and they influenced the NPC/NCNC coalition Government in favour of Ironsi . Bassey's was abandoned by Zik and his Career suffered a lot. Zik should otherwise have been pushing for Bassey's timely Promotions. But to his credit Zik had expected Ironsi to appoint Bassey Governor of the Eastern Region as a consolation and not Ojukwu .
First of all, Ironsi was never a governor.
2ndly, Bassey was as much an Easterner as Zik and Ironsi.
Stop talking about a sAbOtAgE that does not exist.

Where did u get this sAbOtAgE narrative from?
Name the specific (promotional) exams (and the year) which Zik denied Bassey.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Christistruth00: 9:48pm On May 19, 2020
Yujin:

That is not what this thread is about. Open another thread to that effect and we shall slug it out there. Bunch of hateful vermins.

The great man himself W U Bassey he passed away in 1995 aged 77 years (Born in 1918.)

Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Collins4u1(m): 9:48pm On May 19, 2020
Tyrant28:
Posterity will repay the ibos for the crime they committed against my people. That is why they are suffering now. May the pain continue


Lolzzz. Who are you? How do you form, how do you exist? Who you?



I don't know people that are suffering shaaaaa.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Tyrant28: 9:55pm On May 19, 2020
Wait let me ask NBS statistics who dey suffer cheesy
Collins4u1:



Lolzzz. Who are you? How do you form, how do you exist? Who you?



I don't know people that are suffering shaaaaa.
Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Collins4u1(m): 10:00pm On May 19, 2020
Bede2u:
stop being petty. You opened this thread to insult igbos. But see let me tell u...if u guys agitate for niger delta republic....the yorubas and the hausas will wipe u guys out like they did in odi bayelsa.
Let ur love for igbo kiii u there. Just ensure oil money keeps coming. We need it to develop our '5 erosion ravaged enclaves'. We have been friends to the ss the most but many of us are waking up to ur pettiness and stupid.
You want to hear it? Let me say it, zik killed bassey's career because he is a yeye calabar man who deserves nothing good in life.
Cry me a river bro....nonsense


Na calabar guy, tribalism na wetin kill them with with Jealousy caused by their lazy self.


We no dey even see una sef. Rubbish

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Collins4u1(m): 10:02pm On May 19, 2020
KingOKON:
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The 3 major tribes were very tribalistic but blame this on the IBOs.
Even OJUKWU a small boy jumped over NA1 to become z major general.
Immediately independence was attained promotions was suppose to be in periods, going by normal process Nigeria first general should have come nothing less than a decade later but the IBO's coup plotters took over and promoted themselves.
Yakubu a baby soldier counter coup got the northern backing and also promoted himself, while Wellington Bassey was still on normal promotion.
Yakubu got kicked out and Muritala did same but d most annoying was the promotion of Shehu Musa by Obznsanjo to major general
Under any circumstances a true General in Nigeria should have emerged in the mid seventies, but just like what Ironsi and gang started others continued.
Ojukwu was even named a Governor of south eastern state all because being Igbo while other non igbos were in the army


What are you even writing sef?

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Collins4u1(m): 10:03pm On May 19, 2020
Tyrant28:
Wait let me ask NBS statistics who dey suffer cheesy


You're free guy.
Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by ProT: 10:09pm On May 19, 2020
senatordave1:


This is not a political matter,its something that is older than both apc and pdp and two of us.if you know me well in this forum,you will know that I love igbos.

By the way,Niger delta republic would have happened if we ss had half agitated as you guys did for Biafra.

Even a toddler knows that the army carries more weight than police.between buratai and the igp,who carries more influence?
Relax!
The oil that keeps the wheel of Nigeria running is mostly from the SS; achieve the easier resource control (from other Nigerians) first before dabbling into agitation to break the property of Her Royal Majesty, without her consent.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by ProT: 10:23pm On May 19, 2020
SIONKPO1:
At times we just should apologise and move on
I think zik played ethnic politics by ensuring that Ironsi and Ojukwu were promoted and Bassey's promotion was delayed
Could you please tell us HOW Zik did this?
Like, give us times when Zik played this ethnic politics against Bassey.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Dedetwo(m): 10:38pm On May 19, 2020
senatordave1:
Late brigadier wellington was the first commissioned officer of the Nigerian army.he was commissioned 2 months before aguiyi ironsi and ademulegun were commissioned.I think his no was NA1 and WA1.he was senior to ironsi by a few months just as buhari was senior to ibb and abacha and they never overtook him in rank.how did ironsi become a major general before wellington? As the most senior officer in Nigerian army,the British general was supposes to handover to him when they left.what really happened? Oga metaphysical,you will be needed here.

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The laziness of most Nigerians do not know boundaries. There were two Basseys in the equation of early Nigerian officers. One was Duke Bassey and other was Wellington Umoh Bassey. The first Nigerian to be commissioned as officer in the British Royal West African Frontier Force was Louis Victor Ugboma in 1948. He was fellowed by Duke Bassey, Sey (Ghanaian), Ironsi and Ademulegun in 1949. Shodeinde in 1950 and Wellington Umoh Bassey in 1952. In 1953 came Maimalari, Lawan, Ogundipe and Adebayo. Of the above soldiers only Maimalari and Lawan were trained at the RMA Snadhurst, UK. In 1953, Duke Bassey and Ugboma left the army hence were not in the army when Nigeria gained Independence. However, as everything Nigeria, once a person writes crap others follow without thorough research. I do know that "N" thing came after Nigeria gained independence and Royal Queen's Own Regiments became Nigerian armed forces. I still do not know how N1 went to Wellington Umoh Bassey who was commissioned in 1952. Wellignton Umoh Bassey was a Lt Col as of January 15, 1966. There was nothing ominous about his rank. Only Ogundipe, Maimalari, Adebayo and Kuru Mohammed out ranked him with on step. If eye brawl should be raised, it was the rise of Zakariya Maimalari who catapulted to the rank of Brigadier after being commissioned in 1953. Although the British ran things by then, I guess he was prince and rare African who attended RMA, Sandhurst, UK might have given an edge.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Christistruth00: 10:43pm On May 19, 2020
Dedetwo:


The laziness of most Nigerians do not know boundaries. There were two Basseys in the equation of early Nigerian officers. One was Duke Bassey and other was Wellington Umoh Bassey. The first Nigerian to be commissioned as officer in the British Royal West African Frontier Force was Louis Victor Ugboma in 1948. He was fellowed by Duke Bassey, Sey (Ghanaian), Ironsi and Ademulegun in 1949. Shodeinde in 1950 and Wellington Umoh Bassey in 1952. In 1953 came Maimalari, Lawan, Ogundipe and Adebayo. Of the above soldiers only Maimalari and Lawan were trained at the RMA Snadhurst, UK. In 1953, Duke Bassey and Ugboma left the army hence were not in the army when Nigeria gained Independence. However, as everything Nigeria, once a person writes crap others follow without thorough research. I do know that "N" thing came after Nigeria gained independence and Royal Queen's Own Regiments became Nigerian armed forces. I still not know how N1 went to Wellington Umoh Bassey who was commissioned in 1952. Wellignton Umoh Bassey was a Lt Col as of January 15, 1966. There was nothing ominous about his rank. Only Ogundipe, Maimalari, Adebayo and Kuru Mohammed out ranked him with on step. If eye brawl should be raised, it was the rise of Zakariya Maimalari catapulted to the rank of Brigadier after being commissioned in 1953. Although the British ran things by then, I guess he was prince and rare African who attended RMA, Sandhurst, UK might have given an edge.

His full name was Wellington Duke U. Bassey .It was the same person. All the rubbish about it being 2 different people was a lie and part of the wicked propaganda that was unleashed against him by the people who saw him as a threat to their ambitions .

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Dedetwo(m): 10:43pm On May 19, 2020
Christistruth00:



If the God fearing truth be told Wellington Bassey was a Calabar man and after the NCNC Zik and Eyo-Ita Eastern Region Saga ,Wellington Bassey's career was deliberately sabotaged by Zik and his allies in power to make sure Ironsi eventually emerged as head of the Army. He retired from Gowons Govt as a Brigadier in 1975.

From the above post, it is safe to say that tomfoolery is a way of life in Nigeria. There were Duke Bassey who commissioned in 1949 along with Ironsi, Ademulegun and one Ghanaian. There was another Wellington Umoh Bassey was commissioned in 1952.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by ProT: 10:44pm On May 19, 2020
Christistruth00:

W.U Bassey had helped to resist the Coup and 2 Igbo Officers to 4 Eastern Minority Officers being passed over for Ojukwu to emerge as Governor of the Eastern Region was pure discrimination and the Eastern minorities resented it. Remember Gen Ironsi (Bassey's Junior ) was already Head of Army and later Head of State after Zik and NCNC had played ludo with W.U Bassey's 30 year Army Career.
This one is incorrigible.
U project trivial insinuations as fact, trying ur best to over-repeat it, believing the over repetition would somehow make it the truth.

Bassey was not overtaken by only Ironsi; others after Ironsi also overtook him.
Ya, Zik held him down, so that the whole of Nigeria would overtake him; he must have raped Zik's mother for Zik to have been this wicked to him.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Christistruth00: 10:52pm On May 19, 2020
Dedetwo:


From the above post, it is safe to say that tomfoolery is a way of life in Nigeria. There were Duke Bassey who commissioned in 1949 along with Ironsi, Ademulegun and one Ghanaian. There was another Wellington Umoh Bassey was commissioned in 1952.

That was part of the wicked propaganda that was unleashed against Bassey It was the same person. His full name was Wellington Duke U. Bassey .

Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Dedetwo(m): 10:55pm On May 19, 2020
Christistruth00:


The great man himself W U Bassey he passed away in 1995 aged 77 years (Born in 1918.)



Wellington Umoh Bassey was not a stereotypical soldier. He was layback kind of a soldier.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Dedetwo(m): 10:59pm On May 19, 2020
Christistruth00:


That was part of the wicked propaganda that was unleashed against Bassey It was the same person. His full name was Wellington Duke U. Bassey .


I guess confusion feasted on Nigerians who did not know that Duke Bassey left the army along with Ugboma in 1953.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Christistruth00: 11:01pm On May 19, 2020
Dedetwo:


Wellington Umoh Bassey was not a stereotypical soldier. He was layback kind of a soldier.

That is untrue and was part of the propaganda against him. W.U Bassey later commanded the 1st Brigade Kaduna only 1st Class officer's command that Brigade. It was Nigeria's no 1 Military establishment.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Christistruth00: 11:08pm On May 19, 2020
Dedetwo:


I guess confusion feasted on Nigerians who did not know that Duke Bassey left the army along with Ugboma in 1953.

That is untrue Wellington Duke U Bassey would never have been upgraded to the Brigadier position in 1966 If he had. That was the same position Ogundipe and Ademulegun his Army Juniors were at before the Jan 1966 Coup. Can you see all the lies and propaganda Bassey had to deal with.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Dedetwo(m): 11:10pm On May 19, 2020
Christistruth00:


You are correct Lt Ugboma was the first commissioned Nigerian Officer.He retired 5 years later and returned to his former career as a teacher. It was Ogundipe and Ironsi that were commissioned at the same time not Ademulegun.


It will be very hard to believe a writer who wrote the above post. Ogundipe enlist in 1941 as private and left in 1945 after the World War II. He re-enlisted in 1946. It took him another 7 years to rise to the rank of NCO to qualify for OCS. When Ironsi and Ademulegun went to MOMS. Aldershort, UK, they were Staff Sergeant and Regimental Sergeant Major respectively. Even Ademulegun was senior NCO to Ironsi.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Eastlink(m): 11:15pm On May 19, 2020
senatordave1:


You have said it all.there's no way ojukwu who was by far hes junior will be made governor of the eastern region above him if not for sabotage.this is why ss cannot be in Biafra
You’re slowly exposing yourself.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by senatordave1(m): 11:17pm On May 19, 2020
Eastlink:
You’re slowly exposing yourself.
I was never masking,camouflaging or masquerading.bassey was unjustly cheated,period
Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Dedetwo(m): 11:17pm On May 19, 2020
Christistruth00:


That is untrue Wellington Duke U Bassey would never have been upgraded to the Brigadier position in 1966 If he had. That was the same position Ogundipe and Ademulegun were at before the Jan 1966 Coup. Can you see all the lies and propaganda Bassey had to deal with.

Nobody promoted Lt Col Wellington Umoh Bassey to anything. Before the January 15, 1966, Lt Col Umoh Bassey was the commanding officer of Depot Zaria. He was not the caliber of Officer to give a command a combatant unit.

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Re: How Did General Ironsi Overtake Wellington Bassey In Rank? by Kyase(m): 11:21pm On May 19, 2020
senatordave1:
Late brigadier wellington was the first commissioned officer of the Nigerian army.he was commissioned 2 months before aguiyi ironsi and ademulegun were commissioned.I think his no was NA1 and WA1.he was senior to ironsi by a few months just as buhari was senior to ibb and abacha and they never overtook him in rank.how did ironsi become a major general before wellington? As the most senior officer in Nigerian army,the British general was supposes to handover to him when they left.what really happened? Oga metaphysical,you will be needed here.

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