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Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by lastpage: 1:04pm On Mar 25, 2011
Problem with some Nigerians is what is called COLONIAL MENTALITY AND INFERIORITY COMPLEX! and it is even more pronounced in the few of them that were granted "Naturalization in the U.K." and now think theY are more British than the Brits themselves.
These group of "former Nigerians" are "arze-lickers" and would even expect you to say "Yes-master", if the white man beats up your mother, in your presence!
These group of people are not worth having a discussion with coz as far as l am concerned, they are "the lost generation". (l have read the comments of some of them here)
You can see there types in Benghazi, who will sell their "birth-right" to their enemy, for selfish reasons.

Now, back to the "Etuhu question".
Even though the story was not told in full, let us examine a few salient clues and ponder on some questions:

1.) The story said the guys had a squabble with Etuhu and his friend and three guys were later asked to leave the Night Club
Question: Why would the club's proprietors (who are probably white also) ask the three guys to "leave" while retaining Etuhu and friends?
*Does that not tell you that the "first and fair" judgment was that the three guys are the trouble makers?
*Did the deciding Judge take this into consideration?

2.) The three guys the went to lay ambush for Etuhu outside the Club:
Question: Has anyone heard about the law against "stalking someone"?
* Would our "over-westernized" commentators berating Etuhu, tell us what the same judge would have done, if it was Etuhu that lay ambushed for the guys and got his jaw broken or even killed? I for one has seem black dudes sentenced to jail, just for "loitering around or watching" their estranged friend and l am sure others can tell of similar experience.

3.) The three whiteys now carried out their "pre-meditated" intentions by accosting Etuhu!
Though it was not stated, the reality is that an argument broke-out and led to a fight! The problem is that "this black bloke came out tops in the fight" and thats not good for "white ego"! Its just like Ghadafi Vs. Western-backed Rebels!! You just cant win the white peeps!

Such people are called "Assailants" under the law: When you lay-in-wait for someone and then attack them, verbally or physically!

Granted, Etuhu may have used what is termed "disproportionate force" .i.e force that does not correspond with that of your assailant but it does not take away and should have been a "mitigating factor" in passing sentence, that he was defending himself! T[b]his is where the racism angle comes in.[/b]

If you reverse the personae involved and it was Etuhu's jaw that was broken, the Judge would sentence the guys to 78-hours community service in-lieu of a three months sentence. End of story.

A lot of "white judges" have now made it their uty to remind every blackman brought before them, that "they (the whites) made them what they are, and have the power to reduce them to nothing! All footballers, white or black, are nothing until they worked hard to establish themselves and become rich (Not just black folks alone or immigrant black footballers). IT IS VERY INSULTING AND RACIST.

It pains me when l observe "black people" who have lost their origins and accepted their status-quo, that they are inferior to a white person and should be treated so, just because they want the white people to accept them in U.K, Europe or U.S! Its a big shame.
Anyway, when we get it right in our own country (and we must), such people will come running back and reminding us "how Nigerian they are"! shocked shocked

Like some have said, "serve the time and come out wiser!
"To eat with the devil, you need to be cunningly smart and have a long spoon!"
Not like Saddam, not like Ghadafi but like Kim Jong of North Korea, Almadenajhad of Iran, e.t.c  wink grin
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by hustla(m): 1:19pm On Mar 25, 2011
lastpage:

Problem with some Nigerians is what is called COLONIAL MENTALITY AND INFERIORITY COMPLEX! and it is even more pronounced in the few of them that were granted "Naturalization in the U.K." and now think theY are more British than the Brits themselves.
These group of "former Nigerians" are "arze-lickers" and would even expect you to say "Yes-master", if the white man beats up your mother, in your presence!
These group of people are not worth having a discussion with coz as far as l am concerned, they are "the lost generation". (l have read the comments of some of them here)
You can see there types in Benghazi, who will sell their "birth-right" to their enemy, for selfish reasons.

Now, back to the "Etuhu question".
Even though the story was not told in full, let us examine a few salient clues and ponder on some questions:

1.) The story said the guys had a squabble with Etuhu and his friend and three guys were later asked to leave the Night Club




Question: Why would the club's proprietors (who are probably white also) ask the three guys to "leave" while retaining Etuhu and friends?
*Does that not tell you that the "first and fair" judgment was that the three guys are the trouble makers?
*Did the deciding Judge take this into consideration?

2.) The three guys the went to lay ambush for Etuhu outside the Club:
Question: Has anyone heard about the law against "stalking someone"?
* Would our "over-westernized" commentators berating Etuhu, tell us what the same judge would have done, if it was Etuhu that lay ambushed for the guys and got his jaw broken or even killed? I for one has seem black dudes sentenced to jail, just for "loitering around or watching" their estranged friend and l am sure others can tell of similar experience.

3.) The three whiteys now carried out their "pre-meditated" intentions by accosting Etuhu!
Though it was not stated, the reality is that an argument broke-out and led to a fight! The problem is that "this black bloke came out tops in the fight" and thats not good for "white ego"! Its just like Ghadafi Vs. Western-backed Rebels!! You just cant win the white peeps!

Such people are called "Assailants" under the law: When you lay-in-wait for someone and then attack them, verbally or physically!

Granted, Etuhu may have used what is termed "disproportionate force" .i.e force that does not correspond with that of your assailant but it does not take away and should have been a "mitigating factor" in passing sentence, that he was defending himself! T[b]his is where the racism angle comes in.[/b]

If you reverse the personae involved and it was Etuhu's jaw that was broken, the Judge would sentence the guys to 78-hours community service in-lieu of a three months sentence. End of story.

A lot of "white judges" have now made it their uty to remind every blackman brought before them, that "they (the whites) made them what they are, and have the power to reduce them to nothing! All footballers, white or black, are nothing until they worked hard to establish themselves and become rich (Not just black folks alone or immigrant black footballers). IT IS VERY INSULTING AND RACIST.

It pains me when l observe "black people" who have lost their origins and accepted their status-quo, that they are inferior to a white person and should be treated so, just because they want the white people to accept them in U.K, Europe or U.S! Its a big shame.
Anyway, when we get it right in our own country (and we must), such people will come running back and reminding us "how Nigerian they are"! shocked shocked

Like some have said, "serve the time and come out wiser!
"To eat with the devil, you need to be cunningly smart and have a long spoon!"
Not like Saddam, not like Ghadafi but like Kim Jong of North Korea, Almadenajhad of Iran, e.t.c  wink grin





i swear u sabi die, not like some fool tht said Nigerians will always be Nigerians, awon omo ale jatijati
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by lastpage: 1:30pm On Mar 25, 2011
^^^^ i swear u sabi die,
grin grin grin grin grin

Thats a very wicked "East End " Expression! Mind blowing for a local boy like me wink grin
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by vislabraye(m): 2:32pm On Mar 25, 2011
Na wa O. He must have been provoked, may be called a racist or something like that. Remember Zidane's headbut against Matarrazi?
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by montelik(m): 4:13pm On Mar 25, 2011
ideylaff:

That was Etuhus girl friend trying to stop him, from doing what he did, He had options to at least back down or at least  give 1 blow and walk away from it all

That's what hurts most, when u had another option

Like I said nobody holy pass, but when your up there in the public eyes, career all ok, u have to be very careful,

I bet the victim will now start a civil action against him and court and also claim damages, which is double loss 4 Etuhu,

I must say his friends in the car let him down, they must know what was at stake, did not see them in the video trying to stop him.


Chei, d guy dey vex oh!!! Even after d girlfriend hit d pavement hard he didn't even look backward like say him send am. shocked
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by lastpage: 4:27pm On Mar 25, 2011
In addition to ALL l have said on this issue, one BIG lesson for "me" to learn is the "Art of Self Control"!

We all get angry and do regrettable things but "the Man who has mastered his emotions (anger, envy, laughter, e.t.c) is the one fit-enough to be called A MAN".
Let s all think twice before,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,anything wink
Cheers.
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by mamagee3(f): 9:43pm On Mar 25, 2011
Gbenge 77:

pathetic!
What's pathetic? tongue
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by sulad82i(m): 5:56am On Mar 26, 2011
ok so he got what he deserve for fighting.
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by rlcanon: 12:23pm On Mar 26, 2011
YOU ASSOLES THAT HAVE RACIST JUDGMENT AGAINST ETUHU BETTER HAVE A RE-THINK.SO ETUHU SHOULD FOLD HIS ARMS AND LOOK AWAY FOR THAT BRITISH PIG TO SNUF LIVE OUT OF HIM OR CAUSE HIM BODILY INJURIES FOR LIVE?

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT LITTLE NIGERIAN BOY THAT WAS KILLED BY SOME WHITE BOYS AND DUMPED IN THAMES RIVER? WAS THERE JUSTICE?SO YOU ALL ARE FUCKING FOOLS TO MADE YOUR COMMENTS WITH IKLING OF RASCISM.

DO ME I DO YOU ,MAN NO GO VEX.
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by Sagamite(m): 12:34pm On Mar 26, 2011
rlcanon:

YOU ASSOLES THAT HAVE RACIST JUDGMENT AGAINST ETUHU BETTER HAVE A RE-THINK.SO ETUHU SHOULD FOLD HIS ARMS AND LOOK AWAY FOR THAT BRITISH PIG TO SNUF LIVE OUT OF HIM OR CAUSE HIM BODILY INJURIES FOR LIVE?

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT LITTLE NIGERIAN BOY THAT WAS KILLED BY SOME WHITE BOYS AND DUMPED IN THAMES RIVER? WAS THERE JUSTICE?SO YOU ALL ARE bleeping FOOLS TO MADE YOUR COMMENTS WITH IKLING OF RASCISM.

DO ME I DO YOU ,MAN NO GO VEX.

You are reetarded!

Dumbarse contribution!

He could not have driven off? He was not the one that threw the first punch?

Moooron!!!
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by lastpage: 2:56pm On Mar 26, 2011
^^^^^What if that comment actually applies to you?

Is "provocation" not a recognized alibi, under the law?
Was it not apparent that the guys "laid in ambush" for him, after they were initially booted out of the Club, by the managers (having reached a position that they were the aggressor!)

Why dont you apply that same yardstick of yours, to the other party: Why did they NOT take the option of "walking away" after being sent away? Why "stalk and ambush? Etuhu jnr?

Ask yourself: If Etuhu was "white" as the other guys (or if the other guys were black as Etuhu): will the judgment have gone this way?
Would the judge have mouthed that silly profanity about coming to Britain with nothing!

Social Studies in primary school taught us that we are a "product of our environment" and l can understand when peeps who live in Britain "take this kind of stance", on issues like this; They need to blend, they are trying to blend!

BUT the eternal truth is that "Black and White will never BLEND" as long as you cannot change your color and genes!

Very sad reality sad cry
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by Sagamite(m): 3:16pm On Mar 26, 2011
lastpage:

^^^^^What if that comment actually applies to you?

Is "provocation" not a recognized alibi, under the law?
Was it not apparent that the guys "laid in ambush" for him, after they were initially booted out of the Club, by the managers (having reached a position that they were the aggressor!)

Under the law, if you are provoked, the law expects you to walk away if you can or verbally reply.

He was already in the car, that means they did not touch him or prevent him from going away.

lastpage:

Why dont you apply that same yardstick of yours, to the other party: Why did they NOT take the option of "walking away" after being sent away? Why "stalk and ambush? Etuhu jnr?

They are not the ones that threw the first punch, the broken jaw victim did not even throw a punch at all. He was assaulted.

That is why they are not the one going to jail.

lastpage:

Ask yourself: If Etuhu was "white" as the other guys (or if the other guys were black as Etuhu):  will the judgment have gone this way?
Would the judge have mouthed that silly profanity about coming to Britain with nothing!

With that video, most likely he would. If he does not, he should.

Stop playing race card over doing wrong!

We would have a crazy world if people go about breaking jaws because of provocation.

That said, I enjoyed what Etuhu did. Well done, boy!  grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by lastpage: 3:32pm On Mar 26, 2011
Sagamite,
I am not "playing the race card", "I actually see race in this"!
And the comments made by the judge in relation to how he cam to Britain with nothing (which has nothing to do with the issue of a broken jaw!) confirms my suspicion and observation!
They like to remind "black colored folks" that Britain is doing them a favor whereas, these are British citizens!
Though they are black citizens sha grin grin wink

BTW: I said earlier that "l wish Etuhu could have controlled his anger", he would have been a better person for that, in the long run.
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by Sagamite(m): 3:36pm On Mar 26, 2011
lastpage:

Sagamite,
I am not "playing the race card", "I actually see race in this"!
And the comments made by the judge in relation to how he cam to Britain with nothing (which has nothing to do with the issue of a broken jaw!) confirms my suspicion and observation!
They like to remind "black colored folks" that Britain is doing them a favor whereas, these are British citizens!
Though they are black citizens sha grin grin wink

BTW: I said earlier that "l wish Etuhu could have controlled his anger", he would have been a better person for that, in the long run.

What the judge said might be intepreted as inspiration and how he disappointed the inspiration.
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by vislabraye(m): 9:57pm On Mar 26, 2011
lastpage:

Sagamite,
I am not "playing the race card", "I actually see race in this"!
And the comments made by the judge in relation to how he cam to Britain with nothing (which has nothing to do with the issue of a broken jaw!) [/b]confirms my suspicion and observation!
They like to remind "black colored folks" that Britain is doing them a favor whereas, these are British citizens!
[b]Though they are black citizens sha
grin grin wink

BTW: I said earlier that "l wish Etuhu could have controlled his anger", he would have been a better person for that, in the long run.

You can't rule out racism. If there were no blacks in UK, will Uk be what it is today. Damn them.
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by Sagamite(m): 10:35pm On Mar 26, 2011
vislabraye:

You can't rule out racism. If there were no blacks in UK, will Uk be what it is today. Damn them.

Yes, it would.

What makes you think it wouldn't? Self-importance delusion?
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by harakiri(m): 10:56am On Mar 27, 2011
I wonder if the same judgement would have been given to Steven Gerard if he had come out of a casino and as he attempted to get into his car, was accosted by 3 Nigerians who were obviously spoiling for a fight and were out to provoke him at all costs. Look at all these so called "civilized" people calling Etuhu a barbaric person who can't adhere to British laws. How many of you bloody hypocrites can tolerate that nonsense? Look at people talking about barbarism as if the UK isn't one of the top violent countries in the world. Knife stabbings and killings are their specialty and no one has dented their "track" record for decades. What the hell are you dumb reetards talking about? What if he got stabbed to death on the spot? Will you dumb a$$'es be flapping your gums and talking jibberish? What if he was the one who got a broken jaw and shattered car? Na the same thing una go dey talk? My people and their reetarded manner of thinking dey always tire me sometimes.

Personally, i am a non violent person and i can count the number of physical confrontations i've had throughout my life on with three fingers (and that was during childhood days) but there is a limit to everything. If i was in the casino,had a misunderstanding with some people and decided to leave the venue peacefully only to come out and be confronted by those very people i am trying to avoid, i know i would have done more than break someone's jaw. Someone's skull would have a tire iron buried in it. I can bet those guys deliberated started the fracas with him knowing fully well that he was a celebrity and the media/law always has it's eyes on celebrities MOST ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE BLACK! ! ! I am trying as much as i can to be unbiased but i know the same judgement would never be the same if it was a white professional soccer player involved.
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by lastpage: 12:00pm On Mar 27, 2011
^^^^^ Thank you very much "harakiri", this is exactly what l have been "preaching" to my brothers, since the start of this thread!
We Nigerians have these annoying penchant to "beat one of ours when he is down" and need support most! I guess that explains why we are the most maligned people in the world; We do most of the "beating" ourselves!

I dont know, it just makes us "feel good" to "side with "Oyinbo", (no matter how silly it looks) and talk-down one of ours! Very strange indeed.
50yrs after "geographical independence", it seems most of us are still a long way-off to "mental and psychological independence" angry angry

I love your analysis up there.
If any of those "Nigerian kids" that have been repeatedly stabbed-to-death in the U.K, have learnt to face their challenger squarely (like Etuhu), maybe they would "serve jail-time" but WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY?

I wonder if the three guys have also stabbed and killed Etuhu jnr, what would these same scumbag-fellow Nigerians be saying (apart from "my sympathies to the family"! angry )

BTW:
Personally, i am a non violent person,,,,,, If i was in the casino,had a misunderstanding with some people and decided to leave the venue peacefully only to come out and be confronted ,,,,,,, Someone's skull would have a tire iron buried in it.

hic-hic-hic-hic grin grin
In fact, you dont even sound violent at all! wink wink grin
Cheers bro, easy does it!
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by Sagamite(m): 1:49pm On Mar 27, 2011
harakiri:

I wonder if the same judgement would have been given to Steven Gerard if he had come out of a casino and as he attempted to get into his car, was accosted by 3 Nigerians who were obviously spoiling for a fight and were out to provoke him at all costs.

Most likely the same Rio Ferdinand or Ashley Cole would get if they were accosted by 3 Glaswegian yobs spoiling for a fight.

England player, Joey Barton, was sent to jail for 6 months for assaulting 2 people after a night out. Unlike Etuhu, he was drunk beyond his head and did not even break any bone!

Scotland International, Duncan Ferguson, was jailed for 3 months for headbutting a player on the pitch playing for Rangers. One headbutt!

They were not black. The only similarity was that they were violent.

Arsenal Legend, Tony Adams, jailed for 4 months for drink-driving. No accidents, did not harm anyone.

harakiri:

Look at all these so called "civilized" people calling Etuhu a barbaric person who can't adhere to British laws. How many of you bloody hypocrites can tolerate that nonsense? Look at people talking about barbarism as if the UK isn't one of the top violent countries in the world.

Are you having a laugh?

UK is one of the most violent country in the world?

Because they report every violence and highlight it.  People die like dogs in Nigeria and it goes unreported, that is why you have the audacity to say UK is the most violent in the world. A significant are killed by Nigerian police alone.

Lets use facts when we speak and want to vituperate other's opinion.

harakiri:

Knife stabbings and killings are their specialty and no one has dented their "track" record for decades. What the hell are you dumb reetards talking about? What if he got stabbed to death on the spot? Will you dumb a$$'es be flapping your gums and talking jibberish? What if he was the one who got a broken jaw and shattered car? Na the same thing una go dey talk? My people and their reetarded manner of thinking dey always tire me sometimes.

Stop chatting rubbish!

How are they going to stab him when he is in his car and drives away?

harakiri:

Personally, i am a non violent person and i can count the number of physical confrontations i've had throughout my life on with three fingers (and that was during childhood days) but there is a limit to everything. If i was in the casino,had a misunderstanding with some people and decided to leave the venue peacefully only to come out and be confronted by those very people i am trying to avoid, i know i would have done more than break someone's jaw. Someone's skull would have a tire iron buried in it. I can bet those guys deliberated started the fracas with him knowing fully well that he was a celebrity and the media/law always has it's eyes on celebrities MOST ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE BLACK! ! ! I am trying as much as i can to be unbiased but i know the same judgement would never be the same if it was a white professional soccer player involved.

I could have done the same with utmost pleasure but I will take my punishment and not scream racism.
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by Iyineda(m): 2:52pm On Mar 29, 2011
I can't believe some people are actually trying to find excuses for this guy. . . Did you see the video??
Re: Bbc News : Etuhu Jailed 8 Months For Assault by ifyalways(f): 3:44pm On Mar 30, 2011
Just saw the video and all I can say is self-restraint is a veryyyyyy important virtue.

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