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Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by vladimiros: 1:53am On Apr 27, 2011
trust me in 2015 if we give this a try it would be a success
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by sayso: 7:05am On Apr 27, 2011
voting over the net, forgotten Bush/Al Gore?
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by ogagusps3: 7:21am On Apr 27, 2011
I think a step-by-step tutorial on how to vote should be printed at the back of all voter cards so that the instructions on how to go about voting would be clear to all.
For all who think it would be easy to manipulate through bribery of IT guys, it's not cus voting will go through different network masts in different states throughout Nigeria.
Also, money can be spent on getting a very high tech secured network that is most definitely in back hackable to the average IT guy in Nigerian.
High security at masts all around the country.
This system of voting comes with the added bonus of voting in state or constituency elections from other states or even outside the country.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by OWOLAYEMO: 7:28am On Apr 27, 2011
Brillant BUT cant and wont work in Nigeria for NOW! Our electoral system is not mature to that extend.
All they need to do is to JAM the NETWORK. Good thought though!!!!!!!!
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by ogagusps3: 8:01am On Apr 27, 2011
^^^ possible, but it will be difficult to block all 9ja operators all over Nigeria for a whole week.
Mtn,glo,airtel,starcomms, etisalat,multilinks,etc along with all the security they will get, It's not feasible for anyone to even try any thing as it not likely to disrupt results or the ability of voters to vote.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by crudedude(m): 8:26am On Apr 27, 2011
ogagusps3:

I think a step-by-step tutorial on how to vote should be printed at the back of all voter cards so that the instructions on how to go about voting would be clear to all.
For all who think it would be easy to manipulate through bribery of IT guys, it's not cus voting will go through different network masts in different states throughout Nigeria.
Also, money can be spent on getting a very high tech secured network that is most definitely in back hackable to the average IT guy in Nigerian.

High security at masts all around the country.
This system of voting comes with the added bonus of voting in state or constituency elections from other states or even outside the country.

You make it Look like a Sci-fi movie.Like someone said,its a brilliant idea for a 16year old but overall its kinda lame(atleast for now). .I rest my case.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by meetvic: 8:42am On Apr 27, 2011
D boy's Idea seems grt. lets say every voter to one unique number given to u during registration. that number can only be used once. Lets say 1234, once u send ur vote with d Number, d system recognises it and rejects any other vote with same number. What about dat
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by AjanleKoko: 8:52am On Apr 27, 2011
It'll certainly save us a lot of money.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by realcele: 9:12am On Apr 27, 2011
In order to go digital or use your method of voting there are some basic things that need to be soughted out to minimise illegal or bogus vote. There need to be a proper accountability of every nigerian before digital can be managed with a bit of fareness. We nigerians can have sim card like underware. We can buy as many as we like with no ownership details. Digital voting means anyone can vote as many times as they so wish.
Your solution is quite good interms of comfort to people but we are a bit far in terms of technology to use it. Lagos as a state is getting close if they go by tax payers number combined with a mobile number for individual identifaction of voters but that will leave the rest of the people who dont pay tax out and they need to be accounted for to ensure fair votes.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by mcbertin: 9:54am On Apr 27, 2011
Hey Bro, this is really a brillant idea. It does take away the fact that there could be irregullarities in registration, but it resolves the problem of rigging. But you know in Nigeria rigging starts with registration.

In any case, brillant.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by 1Emmy: 9:57am On Apr 27, 2011
A good idea in the sense that if it works the lost of lifes will be mitigated, but rig will be the problem moreover nigeria is not hat enhance in technology.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Pame(m): 10:16am On Apr 27, 2011
this is a brilliant idea from the guy. the truth remains, according to the guy, every voter will have to register initially to obtain a registration number which serves as the only code that will enable one to vote. it can only be used but once in a particular election. the idea of
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Nobody: 10:37am On Apr 27, 2011
If 'they' want it done, it's not difficult at all. Don't be surprised they knew this before. Even if they didn't have this idea, they'll see this and yet, they don't give a Bleep 'cos it doesn't promise the 'rigging' prospects.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by RuuDie(m): 10:58am On Apr 27, 2011
Probably, one of the best things that will come outta this is, anyone can actually vote from just about anywhere. . . . .no more of this rubbish 'vote where you register' b*llsh*t.

But then in reality to implement such an idea is not beans. . . . it'd probably cost far more than the current 'paper work' that we have and the security gotta be top-notch else the rigging for here go bloody grin
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by texazzpete(m): 11:07am On Apr 27, 2011
This is not an intelligent solution, sorry to say.
Apart from disenfranchising millions of voters with no access to phones, the individual registration numbers are open to too many eyes. Possibility of rigging is very high.

Also, why would anyone want to transfer the determination of your next President to foreign entities like Etisalat and MTN?

This sort of idea may work for 'Idols West Africa' or 'Big brother' but the stakes are MUCH higher for Presidential and Gubernatorial elections.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by luluosas(m): 11:23am On Apr 27, 2011
Let's consider this young man Idea this way. Have you ever asked yourself why is it that, hackers and all internet robbers world wide till date has not been able to break into the financial institutions network? Apart from the frequent theft at ATMs, which is usually the card owner's fault, have you ever heard that so so so bank has been hacked and billions of money siphoned through cyber means? This honorable Idea will work, if only the institutions are ready to make it work. We should always see the possibility of pioneering something and let the whole wide world emulate us. We will get there someday.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Hearme(m): 11:27am On Apr 27, 2011
A good idea in the next 50 years when all Nigerians are literate and when everyone can have access to a phone
with available network all over the country.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by sholasong(m): 11:57am On Apr 27, 2011
this is a nice idea by this young man but i will like to tell you that it will encourage rigging more than any other method. in the last election, pple in each ward can have an idea of the number of votes announced by the official at the voting site. but with sms how will you monitor the number of vote from your ward, town or constituency, you are only left at the mercy of the inec officials announcement, how will you be able to question any result, no way.
Taking into consideration the voting sms sytem for Big Brother, Idols and Project fame, i know a lot of softwares and site that have been successfully used for multiple voting without any problem. i am an IT professional so manipulation is easy.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Nobody: 12:02pm On Apr 27, 2011
Very nice idea
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Princek12(m): 12:12pm On Apr 27, 2011
The improvident mind of the sixteen year old is evidenced by his suggestion of the text-technology system of voting. While I commend his intellect for the suggestion, it would not work in a country where corruption and rigging flow through the veins of all too many.

The system we have in place--a combination of technology and traditional ways--is best suited for Nigeria. Even though voters in this quasi open-ballot election monitored their votes by watching the corpers in each polling location count its votes, there were still reports of voting irregularities. For example, in the north there were reports of cheating under broad day light as under-aged persons stayed in line and voted. But overall this election was reasonably and substantially fair. Imagine the amount of irregularities that would have happened if a secret, electronic system controlled the voting under the cover of darkness. You don't even want to imagine.

The benefits of the proposed system--convenience, reduction in possibility of violence, etc--is significantly outweighed by its risks--insanely high risk of rigging, national security issues, and the exclusion of possible voters who many not have access to phones.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Nobody: 12:17pm On Apr 27, 2011
^^^
The system only needs a little tweaking and will be completely perfect. The only fear I have is people being deceived to cast their votes for the wrong people but with the right awareness, it can be corrected.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by luluosas(m): 12:23pm On Apr 27, 2011
Hello ogagusps3, I just posted your Idea on Mr. President FB fan page and his campaign website. Hope, something good will come out of your brilliant Idea. Keep it up. The addresses are listed below.

http://www.facebook.com/?page=1&sk=messages#!/jonathangoodluck?sk=wall
http://goodluck.org.ng/promoting-made-nigeria-keeps-jobs-nigeria#comment-272
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by johnjoel(m): 12:46pm On Apr 27, 2011
that means money loundary tongue cool shocked sad angry grin
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by luluosas(m): 1:12pm On Apr 27, 2011
@sholasong, this is a nice idea by this young man but i will like to tell you that it will encourage rigging more than any other method. in the last election, pple in each ward can have an idea of the number of votes announced by the official at the voting site. but with sms how will you monitor the number of vote from your ward, town or constituency, you are only left at the mercy of the inec officials announcement, how will you be able to question any result, no way.
Taking into consideration the voting sms sytem for Big Brother, Idols and Project fame, i know a lot of softwares and site that have been successfully used for multiple voting without any problem. i am an IT professional so manipulation is easy.

You are missing something from this Idea. Remember, you must first register, have your voter's card and your voter's identification number, before you are eligible to vote. Your Polling Unit, Ward, Local Government, Constituency, Senatorial Zone and State of Registration will all be capture during the voter registration exercise. Let say your name is Lucky Osamudiamen, an indigene of Edo State, from Oredo Local Govt. Area, but, you are based in Onitsha South Local Govt. Area, Anambra State, where you are working. During registration exercise, you did your registration in Anambra State. Your data in the INEC data base will see you as Lucky Osamudiamen, registered at Onitsha South Local Govt. Area, Anambra State. Let say during election time, you travel to your village and voted there, your vote will be recorded as vote cast in your village while the candidate you voted will be recorded as candidate A in Anambra State as the case may be.
Remember, your phone number will be required during registration for security reasons, but you may not necessarily vote with the same phone number. Just as you were not asked of your phone number during the just concluded elections. The reason is that, your voters identification number will only allow you to vote once, irrespective of your location and the phone number you are using at that time. Any attempt for multiple voting by the same voters identification number is automatically rejected by the data System. This will also enable people without mobile phone during registration to vote. They can go to any phone boot or borrow from their relations to cast their vote, via their voters identification number. It should be noted that, every sms to 4632 (INEC) is free to the voter. The Idea is workable if only we are committed to it. God bless Nigeria.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Parnassuss(m): 1:32pm On Apr 27, 2011
I don't what the big fuss is about when we have an INEC that spent nearly a hundred billion to run this anti-climax of a show. If half that sum is expended on this scheme there's no reason y it shouldn't work. Rigging will occur in every election no matter where or how, the idea is to put it on the barest minimum.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Nobody: 1:53pm On Apr 27, 2011
Parnassuss:

I don't what the big fuss is about when we have an INEC that spent nearly a hundred billion to run this anti-climax of a show. If half that sum is expended on this scheme there's no reason y it shouldn't work. Rigging will occur in every election no matter where or how, the idea is to put it on the barest minimum.
True talk
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Fhemmmy: 1:56pm On Apr 27, 2011
Parnassuss:

I don't what the big fuss is about when we have an INEC that spent nearly a hundred billion to run this anti-climax of a show. If half that sum is expended on this scheme there's no reason y it shouldn't work. Rigging will occur in every election no matter where or how, the idea is to put it on the barest minimum.

Let us give INEC some credit . . . yes, the election has not been 100%, but we will admit that it has been better than most of the previous.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Princek12(m): 2:24pm On Apr 27, 2011
luluosas:

You are missing something from this Idea. Remember, you must first register, have your voter's card and your voter's identification number, before you are eligible to vote. Your Polling Unit, Ward, Local Government, Constituency, Senatorial Zone and State of Registration will all be capture during the voter registration exercise. Let say your name is Lucky Osamudiamen, an indigene of Edo State, from Oredo Local Govt. Area, but, you are based in Onitsha South Local Govt. Area, Anambra State, where you are working. During registration exercise, you did your registration in Anambra State. Your data in the INEC data base will see you as Lucky Osamudiamen, registered at Onitsha South Local Govt. Area, Anambra State. Let say during election time, you travel to your village and voted there, your vote will be recorded as vote cast in your village while the candidate you voted will be recorded as candidate A in Anambra State as the case may be.
Remember, your phone number will be required during registration for security reasons, but you may not necessarily vote with the same phone number. Just as you were not asked of your phone number during the just concluded elections. The reason is that, your voters identification number will only allow you to vote once, irrespective of your location and the phone number you are using at that time. Any attempt for multiple voting by the same voters identification number is automatically rejected by the data System. This will also enable people without mobile phone during registration to vote. They can go to any phone boot or borrow from their relations to cast their vote, via their voters identification number. It should be noted that, every sms to 4632 (INEC) is free to the voter. The Idea is workable if only we are committed to it. God bless Nigeria.

It sounds good on paper but will not work in Nigeria. Bottom line is that it provides for a 100% secret collation method, which is highly susceptible to rigging. How will the voters be able to verify the accuracy of the results if it was not counted in their face?

You are probably someone who has traveled to or lived in the west or watched too much DSTV and wholeheartedly wants to embrace technology for all it can do, and I understand your passion. But an open-ballot system, where the votes are cast and counted on site and in front of the voters, remains the best option to reduce fraud and rigging.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by heilige(m): 2:30pm On Apr 27, 2011
Bad Idea. The aggregators will compromise. It will end up like the case of the so called INEC Excel sheets.
Aggregators are the companys that host the so called short codes eg 444 or 777, etc.
Biometrics solution with real time result update will always be the best option, provides PHCN does not compromise on election day. Also the coy that provides the Software should not compromise.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by Nobody: 2:41pm On Apr 27, 2011
I know of one very inexpensive method of voting in Nigeria and it is called option A4. The one adopted by the evil genius. It worked and gave nigeria the freest and fairest election since the inception of man. It is completely fool proof. If you know you cannot vote if your area for fear of intimidation then travel out and vote in another locality.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by mutbak: 3:45pm On Apr 27, 2011
This can definitely not work out, what about d illiterate that can not operate the sets, it will surely disenfranchise them.
Re: A 16 Year Old's Solution To Nigeria's Electoral Problems by kayus4luv2(m): 4:29pm On Apr 27, 2011
i will suggest that anybody caught trying to rig the election should be killed immediately. This is because this are people that will want to want to rig also when they have the tendency of being in power and moreover those that do not have the love of this country in their heart and still want it to go worse then it was b4 are not fit to live.

SO KILL EM ALL grin grin grin

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