Hi @all,pls i am looking 4 an industrial attachment placement.i am an undergrad at lautech ogbomoso studyin management science and my i.t starts by may.if there is any pls mail me at asoxygen25@yahoo.com THIS is a hr proffesionals thread so dats why i decided to post this here. THANKS

Hello All,

Kindly advise the best Human Resource certification to be done by anyone who wants to migrate to Canada. I think it is the Society of Human Resources Management (SHRM) one that does PHR- SHRP and all but not so sure.

Anyone with useful information should kindly drop here.

@Liss

The Canadian HR certification is the CHRP (Certified HR Professional). You can visit the website for more info: http://www.chrp.ca/en/

Thanks a lot, Naadia.

How can one get get certified with the CHRP here in Nigeria? Any ideas and information regarding tutoring, classes, etc,

I saw a vacancy for a human resource professional sometime ago in a Nigerian newspaper saying that membership of SHRM would be an advantage and I am like what happened to CIPM certification again . Anywayz, can anyone please enlighten us on how to get certified with SHRM? Like where classes are done or something or the other as I hear there are a lot of SHRM certified individuals in Nigeria.

Liss:

I saw a vacancy for a human resource professional sometime ago in a Nigerian newspaper saying that membership of SHRM would be an advantage and I am like what happened to CIPM certification again . Anywayz, can anyone please enlighten us on how to get certified with SHRM? Like where classes are done or something or the other as I hear there are a lot of SHRM certified individuals in Nigeria.

Nothing has happened to CIPM as regard HRM in nigeria. Some executives or business owners believe in SHRM. You will found out such persons studied in canada. That might have informed thier decisions. I remember recruiting for a firm recently and the requirement is that for all position advertised, you must have MBA and this must be from LBS. Initially when I look @ the profile of the CEO of that company, I understand why he wont settle for anything less that LBS as a result of his background.

I believe there may be other reasons anyway.

@ all

I need a change of job.  I have HND in Secretarial Studies, Diploma in Advanced Electronic Data Processing and am an Associate Member of Institute of Chartered Economists of Nigeria.  Please notify me of any vacancy in your establishment through ayokemi2003@yahoo.com. 

Thank you.

Hey Peeps, nice forum I must confess. Hmmm? I'm writing my P.E 1 in CIPMN this August. It seems getting HR job in Nigeria now is near impossible. I was almost lamenting last week that my 2nd class upper was a waste until I saw a first class grad job hunting himself. As HR experts, I guess ethics are being thrown to the winds when it comes to recruitment. I worked as a business developer for two years and all of a sudden, I was transferred to straight marketing! "Great Potentials they told me!" What do you gurus think can be done to sanitize our HRM in Nigeria.

@ tee jake
Welcome aboard!It's such a shame HR in Nigeria is at its infancy. H.R is meant to tap into the human element and find a strategic-fit inherent in the firm. This  never happens in Gidi. Recruitment is marred with awful job analysis,job description changes in a spur of a moment.What do  u expect from a country with sparse employment opportunites?I can identify with what u went thru.A friend relocated a year ago after his Msc,believe me sincerely from a Financial Controller  to a Marketer,now back to multitudinous labour market. The key tenets of a fair recruitment are far-fetched.Labour unions are literally non-existence hence, managers victimise their sub-ordinates,lay-off  haphazardly and do loads of  despicable things.
We placed  a vacancy not quite long ago, part of the person's specification was a good  sense of humour.What does this depict?HR is drifing towards soft skills vis-a-vis other attributes. Only a few multinatinonal firms adhere to core H.R principles in Nigeria.Brov,we go jam well 4 dis forum n good luck with your exams.God dey!

Hmmm? Need I say more? So it's an all round thing! Well, what would eventually happen is that the 'real' professionals at the job will leave this country and go else where to practice. I have a passion for pure HRM with great ideas that's highly practicable. My brova, it's as good as chasing the wind if I try to introduce that here. Well, if there's little or nothing our professional practice can do to change the changing scenes, then some of us would have to follow our passion somewhere else. HRM has been messed up in this country. Can you imagin job specification including humour? How ludicrous! I really believe in our great country and I try to contribute my positive quota always but where has this gotten me now? I'd rather remain hungry than dine with the 'devils' at their deeds. Hmmm? I'm so so happy I joined in on this forum. It's the most sensible I've ever seen online. Thanks Sukkie. A thumbs up for you. If you've gotten a way forward, please share with us all. At least, this could be a starting point for the change we so much crave for. Have a fab day.

teejake,
There is a little misconception here by “soft skills and the humour bit ” in that context I meant relationship management ;which is primarily underpinned by the emotional intelligence. In essence, soft skills entails how you effectively deal with co-workers, manage changes, strategic alliances and other key arms of strategic HR. This is what we lack in Nigeria. We lay undue emphasis on analytical prowess, IT skills and what not. By the way, at the moment I don’t live in 9jar. I had a lil shave with HR in 9jar after my NYSC thou.
Ever considered doing CIPD? Not too sure if they do it in 9jar thou. It’s the UK version of CIPMN,it will open more doors.

@lollypop
CIPD is well appreciated in the Labour Mkt but even with d best of certiifications a decent job is still not certain. I heard u only need to do four more modules with a CIPD pali and bang-on u ve ur CIPMN.

@SUkkie, that was quite revealing. Thanks bro. Well, I have a slogan: never say die. I'm going to make sure I acquire all the skills I can in HRM here in Nigeria. I'm hoping to do my masters in UK too but it would only make sense if I complete my CIPMN programme here. Hmmm. I still desire to practice awhile here because I've come to a discovery that every aspect of our HRM is just a mirror of who we are and not what the profession professes. The truth is that I still wanna contribute my idea in the industry, honestly. Well, God on my side, I'll try my best. Great time my brova.

@SUkkie, that was quite revealing. Thanks bro. Well, I have a slogan: never say die. I'm going to make sure I acquire all the skills I can in HRM here in Nigeria. I'm hoping to do my masters in UK too but it would only make sense if I complete my CIPMN programme here. Hmmm. I still desire to practice awhile here because I've come to a discovery that every aspect of our HRM is just a mirror of who we are and not what the profession professes. The truth is that I still wanna contribute my idea in the industry, honestly. Well, God on my side, I'll try my best. Great time my brova.

what is SHRM, am an undergraduate of HRM , i would like to know if there is a profesional body for HRM apart from CIA

Please i am a chartered Human Resource Practitioner with 3years exp, i need an hr job. anybody of help

cutieisme:

what is SHRM, am an undergraduate of HRM , i would like to know if there is a profesional body for HRM apart from CIA

The Canadian HR certification is the CHRP (Certified HR Professional). You can visit the website for more info: http://www.chrp.ca/en/

Chartered Institute of Personnel Mgt. You can visit the website for more info www.cipmnigeria.org

Yemmight,

Its obvious you work for a global organisation for you to have such a Recruitment Policy. A lot of young Nigerian companies are yet to face realities of the importance of HR and that why some structures crumble. I have worked in and Advertising company for 9 yrs and i know the mentality of business owners when it comes to HR activities, only a few can see through the vision of their companies. However, it takes doggedness and ability to make them see the need to do certain things backed with facts and figures.

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RE: what is SHRM, am an undergraduate of HRM , i would like to know if there is a profesional body for HRM apart from CIA?


Cuteisme,

In response to your answer, SHRM is the HR body in the US. The full meaning is Society for Human Resource Management. We have a body here in Nigeria but you can google SHRM and get more details about their activities. If you really want to be deep in HR career, you need global affiliate aside from CIPM. There's also CIPD, the UK body which is the Chartered Institute Personnel Development

Hope this is helpful

Thanks titobay, HRM is my choosen career and i sure want to be one of the best , I will need your help since you know alot about it, is there a way to contact you , i would prefer an email, i need to learn alot on HRM and how to be good in my choosen career, can you please tell me your email so i can contact you??mine is cutieistheboy@yahoo.com
Thanks
I will be expecting your reply soon

I just joined this forum as I have been looking fo like-minded people, I also intend to practice HR in Nigeria which is why I have travelled half of the world to gather as much as I could. for Cutiesme,(UK and US). I actually just finished my SHRM PHR preparatory classes here in the United States and hopefully intend to write my exams next month, The reason is I am heading to naija end of May and I was hoping to gather as much certificates and degrees as possible and hopefully secure a job , I am quite fed up with living outside nigeria and enuf is enuf ( O ti to ge). let me know if u have any questions about the SHRM ( Society for Human Resource Mgt) body as a whole as I am a member here.

Iranloladun,
I am a member of SHRM? do have something for me?

Thanks machere44 , since you are online rigth now, there is alot i want to learn about HRM as a whole, am still an undergraduate still for 2 years more to spend in school but i want to be a professional before i graduate, i would like to contact you privately too, there is so much i need to ask, if you send me your email i will ask all my questions and will be able to read answers over and over again and ask again whatever i need to know, hopefully you will reply me soon thanks

sorry for the late response, I was trying to eat something, namachere@yahoo.com. hit me right now,

ok thanks am sending you an email rigth now

hello machere44
i just sent you an email, please reply me soon , please you can also check your buck mail for the email thanks hopefully you will have answers to those questions thanks God bless

Titobay,

Thank yu for that piece of write up.

HELLO PROFESSIONALS, IM A GRADUATE OF ENGLISH ART BUT WOULD LIKE TO PUT UP A PROFESSIONAL CAREER IN HUMAN RESOURCE.PLEASE I WILL WANT YOU TO PLEASE GIVE A GUIDELINE TOWARDS ACHIEVING THIS DREAM.YOU COULD EITHER MAIL ME AT myteecollins@yahoo.com or 08120453003. Please i need your support and assistance.

Thanks

"Titobay", kindly help out with informations concerning choosing a HR CAREER.What to do and how to go about it. My email addy is myteecollins@yahoo.com or 08120453003.

Thanks

Hi,
I just concluded my B.Sc In Human Resources and I am seeking to go for a professional course, I wish to go for CIPD but I dont know if they are located in Lagos. I am presently based in Lagos.
Another thing that bothers me is if CIPM carries as much authority as CIPD, Thanks

@Tsuna

CIPD carries more weight than CIPM but at the moment things are quiet in Nigeria so u could put the former in abeyance while u garner some experience.

Since CIPM is accessible,u may as well start with that ,cos CIPD is quite expensive and nt too sure they run it in Nigeria.All d best!

for putting this up.

You see HR has numerous facets and angles to it.

You have
1[b].Recruitment and headhunting[/b](the former being basic while latter being more advanced/poaching of talented top notch employees)
2.Compensation and Benefits (what do you pay who and why)
3[b].Training and Staff Welfare[/b] (how do u make Mr B perform as expected,train him of course or hire another that can do it from Day 1-mind you someone trained him somewhere b4 you hired him & also note that as head of HR you are the voice of the employees-empathy and managerial discretion should be your watchwords).
4.Promotions,Pensions and Transfers and Deployment. (Big organisations will have a unit dedicated soley for this)
5.HR Consultancy: You do HR jobs for clients,recruit for them,appraise their staff etc

On the issue on certification-you have loads of them internationally, CIPD,SHRM,Institute of Recruitment Professionals,Recruitment and Emplyment Confederation amongst others and not to forget CIPM-you aill get exemptions for being members of some of the international ones.Contact CIPM for more details.

For the green horns-The future is very bright as local employers and clients are now coming to terms with the fact that a functional HR dept is pivotal to organisational sucess.
A suggestion is to have a mentor-someone with loads of experience in managing Human Resources as no matter the academic exercise (even in Harvard) human beings are dynamic and only experience and networking will see you through.

Who am i? - A UK trained HR Consultant with over 10 years experience on 3 continents
* machere44-ain't no place like home,the possibilities are limitless here,i consult for SME's and you will be amazed at what you can do for them.

I have a small poser for my HR friends:

In the recruitment exercise, who is ultimately responsible for determining who gets hired, or determines the baseline for hiring?
HR managers have been clamouring of late to have a lot more say in determining which candidates are selected for the organization, but the hiring managers usually feel that it is relevant only to them. HR should just focus on doing the paperwork and salary negotiations.

What do you guys think?