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Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 8:02am On Oct 15, 2022
RepoMan007:

Russia has a lot of neglected minorities don't allow few big men twist your perception of the country among its European peers. $200 minimum was is poor. 2400 USD per annum can only take you to shitty holiday destinations. Even Saudi Arabia with Large oil has enough poor folks, I was shocked when I saw it too. Read their local news and features. All you wrote is only relevant for Russia vs Nigeria. Do Russia vs European peers and see for yourself.
There has been local complains minority regions have bee disproportionately represented in Russian casualties from Ukraine. Let us leave partisan interest and be sensitive to real issues.

Sakha Republic, Daegastan Republic, Chechnya e.t.c

Russia is divided into three, the European part, Siberian part and the artic part The republic mentioned above are located on the Siberian part.

Sakha Republic has a population of estimated 3million people. The capital-Yakutsk is the coldest place in the world. They also enjoy basis amenities. Although it is not as developed as the European part of Russia. But it is still a beautiful place. Imagine 3 million people living in the coldest place in the world. They remain there because they are comfortable.

Chechnya Republic is a Muslim dominated oblast. The capital is Gronzy. Gronzy is the most beautiful capital, when compare with other republic. It has a population of about 1.5 million. They also enjoy basis amenities. Although there are villages in Chechnya which is the same with every other countries in the world. There are no Western companies or firms in Chechnya. They only allow indigenous companies and firms to operate in the republic. No foreign eateries except Russian ones. They don't eat imported food or wear imported clothes.

Dagestan is also a beautiful place. The population is about 3 million people. The capital is Makhachkala. Makhachkala is an important economic, educational, scientific, and cultural centre of the North Caucasus. The city is a major Russian seaport on the Caspian Sea, and a transport hub. It is one of the fastest-growing cities in Russia, and is currently going through a construction boom.

Generally Russia is a wonderful country. Although the country is not perfect.

The picture below is Yakutsk. The coldest city in the world. You can watch video on YouTube about the city to see how people live there. You will be thrilled.

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Re: Gov. by Nobody: 8:13am On Oct 15, 2022
I just noted that whilst Ukraine is taking smaller cities and making noise about them, Russia is focussing on taking the major population centres.
BentizilL:

City is city, all this mean nothing..

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Re: Gov. by TonySpike: 8:18am On Oct 15, 2022
atmy1:
Comparing populations of cities being taken by Russia and Ukraine

Ukraine
Balakliya: 27,000
Izyum: 40,000
Kupyansk: 21,000
Lyman: 20,000

Russia
Mariupol: 436,000
Severodonetsk: 110,000
Lysychansk: 90,000
Bachmut(next): 72,000

After the heavy bombardment of these cities by Russian Forces, I don't think these figures are current.
Re: Gov. by TonySpike: 8:19am On Oct 15, 2022
atmy1:
I just noted that whilst Ukraine is taking smaller cities and making noise about them, Russia is focussing on taking the major population centres.

Russia took over most of these territories at the onset of the war. It will be interesting to see how they will be retained without deportation and infiltration after a year.
Re: Gov. by Nobody: 8:22am On Oct 15, 2022
Of course, prewar and war population cannot be the same for both Russian and ukraine held territories where fighting has taken place. As at the time Russia entered Mariupol, population had decreased to just over 100,000.
TonySpike:


After the heavy bombardment of these cities by Russian Forces, I don't think these figures are current.
Re: Gov. by TonySpike: 8:29am On Oct 15, 2022
atmy1:
Of course, prewar and war population cannot be the same for both Russian and ukraine held territories where fighting has taken place. As at the time Russia entered Mariupol, population had decreased to just over 100,000.
Majority of the population in these areas migrated to western Ukraine. A large number were forcibly moved into Russia by filtration. Most of the building in those cities are mostly empty high rise buildings these days.
Re: Gov. by TonySpike: 8:33am On Oct 15, 2022
basilico:


You cannot tell how much imports are flowing in. China and India combined are lmost self sufficient and can supply nearly everything Russia is not able to manufacture. Russia has vast resources too that the world needs


Nope, the 2021 statistics below says otherwise. More than 55% of Russia's imports have been wiped out by sanctions making the Ruble unnecessarily stronger. If you remove China and Belarus from that table, you will see that Russia heavily relied a lot on its Western allies as at 2021. grin

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Re: Gov. by Akuruoulo(m): 8:37am On Oct 15, 2022
opamoses1:

This thread ehn. Lol

Even before the war:
More than 4,100 Russians crossed the border into the USA without authorization (i.e. Ilegally) in the 2021 fiscal year. This fiscal year, which began Oct. 1, 2021, the numbers are even higher, 6,420 during the first four months alone (Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan 2021).


Soo many mentally deranged kids here.
Re: Gov. by TonySpike: 8:46am On Oct 15, 2022
This ties into my previous argument that Russia abandons many of its dead on the battlefield. I just pity those mobiks most which have a lifespan of just over 14 days on the battlefield.

Re: Gov. by Nobody: 8:54am On Oct 15, 2022
Please don't use Kyiv independent as a source. You can even quote westerns media like CNN but don't quite the mouthpiece of the Ukrainian military.
TonySpike:
This ties into my previous argument that Russia abandons many of its dead on the battlefield. I just pity those mobiks most which have a lifespan of just over 14 days on the battlefield.

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Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 8:58am On Oct 15, 2022
basilico:


Joe Biden actions towards energy has been to make it more expensive. Reduce America output, reduce Russia gas supplies by sanctions and inflaming the war, escalate ME tensions, if he dumps Saudia the oil market becomes volatile.
It would take several days to reverse the war on energy , Biden is making it worse
I'm wondering what the end holds, in Feb the rouble was 137 to the dollar, today it's at 62 to the dollar..looks like the Russian rouble has been strengthened by the war.Which is a sign Their economy is not doing badly.

The US is making the greatest mistake with their anti-Russia and anti-China policies. More and more countries are dumping the dollar for their local currency. It is clear that the US is not a reliable partner. Seizing (stealing) Russian foreign reserve was a great mistake. Now countries are scrambling for de-dollarisation of their economy.

I pray they make another stupid mistake by sanctioning Saudi Arabia and force the kingdom to drop the petrol-dollar.

The US main rival, China is building modern infrastructures for it citizens. They are investing heavily on rail system and aviation. They have the longest network of high speed train in the world. They are close to covering the entire country with rail network. The Chinese manage to have a technological break through in rail technology. They are now no 1 in the wirld.

The newly built Daxing airport in Beijing is a technological masterpiece. It is now the biggest airport in the world. It took them just 5 years. The speed at which the build is amazing.

The US is not interested in building any modern infrastructures. The existing infrastructures are now decaying. The government is interested in fighting wars thousands of miles away from the US territory and spending billions to counter Russia and China. This is a disaster in waiting for the US.

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Re: Gov. by TonySpike: 9:00am On Oct 15, 2022
atmy1:
Please don't use Kyiv independent as a source. You can even quote westerns media like CNN but don't quite the mouthpiece of the Ukrainian military.
Is anyone complaining about the guys using Russian telegram sites as sources here also? If you have a contrary fact, then share your source. That way, we can filter out facts and fictions.

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Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 9:05am On Oct 15, 2022
olugabbie:


Sakha Republic, Daegastan Republic, Chechnya e.t.c

Russia is divided into three, the European part, Siberian part and the artic part The republic mentioned above are located on the Siberian part.

Sakha Republic has a population of estimated 3million people. The capital-Yakutsk is the coldest place in the world. They also enjoy basis amenities. Although it is not as developed as the European part of Russia. But it is still a beautiful place. Imagine 3 million people living in the coldest place in the world. They remain there because they are comfortable.

Chechnya Republic is a Muslim dominated oblast. The capital is Gronzy. Gronzy is the most beautiful capital, when compare with other republic. It has a population of about 1.5 million. They also enjoy basis amenities. Although there are villages in Chechnya which is the same with every other countries in the world. There are no Western companies or firms in Chechnya. They only allow indigenous companies and firms to operate in the republic. No foreign eateries except Russian ones. They don't eat imported food or wear imported clothes.

Dagestan is also a beautiful place. The population is about 3 million people. The capital is Makhachkala. Makhachkala is an important economic, educational, scientific, and cultural centre of the North Caucasus. The city is a major Russian seaport on the Caspian Sea, and a transport hub. It is one of the fastest-growing cities in Russia, and is currently going through a construction boom.

Generally Russia is a wonderful country. Although the country is not perfect.

The picture below is Yakutsk. The coldest city in the world. You can watch video on YouTube about the city to see how people live there. You will be thrilled.
According to your retardêd logic, Lagos has amenities that's why ajegunle is populous. Same logic too for Maiduguri, PH(kpofire), and Lokoja. I can see clearly you are unwilling do a comparison between Russia and European nations. That's says what you are not saying.
Re: Gov. by iykofias(m): 9:16am On Oct 15, 2022
NATO has already suffered DEFEAT in Ukraine, connected with COLLAPSE of their "anti-Russia" project - Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Grushko.

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Re: Gov. by iykofias(m): 9:27am On Oct 15, 2022
Ukrainian troops attempting to launch OFFENSIVE in Kherson region, South Russia, but Russian-led forces ready to REPEL any attacks - Deputy Chief of Kherson region Stremousov.

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Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 9:33am On Oct 15, 2022
TonySpike:


After the heavy bombardment of these cities by Russian Forces, I don't think these figures are current.


I strongly believe that Russia will win this war.

Lugansk ( the two major cities Lisichanks & Severdontsk) is still in Russia hand.

Russian forces are advancing in Donestsk (Bakhmut-key supply line for Ukrainian troops in the east). The Ukrainian troops that took Kharkiv and that were putting pressure on the Russian troops in Donestsk and Lugansk are now stalled. In fact, Russia has started it counter offensive in Lyman and has regained some village in Lyman. The Chenchen are doing a good job there. Russia sent re-enforcement to Kharkiv before the partial mobilisation. They reorganize and have started pushing the Ukrainians back. Ukrainian successful counter offensive in Kharkiv came at a price. They lost a lots of soldiers.

In Kherson, the Ukrainians are advancing but are yet to make any significant gain and they are taken a lots of casualties. This is due the terrain in the south. It is an open terrain (agricultural land). Russian Artilleries and air power are inflicting unimaginable losses on the Ukrainian troops. There will be a significant shift when the Reservists started pouring in by December and January next year.

For Russia to win this war. Kiev and Lviv must be constantly shelled. This will force the ordinary Ukrainians living in those regions to put pressure on Zelensky to negotiate and also make the Ukrainian military think twice before carrying out major attack on Russian soil. This is the reason Russia acquired Iranian drones. They are cheap and easy to built.

Russian forces didn't start the Georgian war well. They are slow learners. But after learning, they become masters.

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Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 9:45am On Oct 15, 2022
Akuruoulo:


Soo many mentally deranged kids here.


There are two types of people in Russia. There are pro-West & pro-russia/nationalists. Those that believe in limitless freedom (homosexuality e.t.c) are leaving the country even before the war. Now more pro-West started leaving when the partial mobilisation started. These people don't believe in war. They believe all countries have their right to do whatever they want. Which is true. But the world is not fair. Big countries like US, China e.t.c can dictate to other countries irrespective of the right the small countries feel they have. That is the reality.

In 2021, 600k people moved to Russia from other countries and in the same year 200k moved out of Russia.

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Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 9:57am On Oct 15, 2022
RepoMan007:
According to your retardêd logic, Lagos has amenities that's why ajegunle is populous. Same logic too for Maiduguri, PH(kpofire), and Lokoja. I can see clearly you are unwilling do a comparison between Russia and European nations. That's says what you are not saying.


I don't insulting people online. You can check all my posts on Nairaland to confirm. It is because I am not guided by emotions or obsession. You need to grow up. I see no reason why u should turn to insult, if you really have a genuine point to counter my opinion. It is an evidence that you are angry with your phone/computer. This is a serious problem. Deal with it. So learn to counter an opinion without insulting people. Let us continue this arguement when you fix all this issues.

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Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 10:06am On Oct 15, 2022
TonySpike:
This ties into my previous argument that Russia abandons many of its dead on the battlefield. I just pity those mobiks most which have a lifespan of just over 14 days on the battlefield.


If you are under enemy heavy bombardment or come into contact with enemy formation that well outnumbered your troops. You won't dare risk your soldiers live to safe the dead.

War is not child's play. It is a disaster.

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Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 10:10am On Oct 15, 2022
olugabbie:



I don't insulting people online. You can check all my posts on Nairaland to confirm. It is because I am not guided by emotions or obsession. You need to grow up. I see no reason why u should turn to insult, if you really have a genuine point to counter my opinion. It is an evidence that you are angry with your phone/computer. This is a serious problem. Deal with it. So learn to counter an opinion without insulting people. Let us continue this arguement when you fix all this issues.
Retardêd logic is no insult. The logic has been applied to Lagos, PH, Maiduguri and Lokoja to prove its retarded-ness.
Re: Gov. by owolabi5: 10:10am On Oct 15, 2022
TonySpike:


A strong currency has nothing to do with economy, if you are in doubt, ask Ghana. Russian Ruble is strong because of numerous import embargoes due to heavy sanctions. Importation is very low at the moment, hence, spiking up their currency worth.


The bolded is very true, Ukrainian Hryvnia is worth more than 1.6 times the Russian Ruble!


Does this mean the Ukrainian economy is stronger than the Russian's?
Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 10:20am On Oct 15, 2022
RepoMan007:
Retardêd logic is no insult. The logic has been applied to Lagos, PH, Maiduguri and Lokoja to prove its retarded-ness.


Kindly excuse my initial comment. I didn't know. I never heard of it.

Well, there are Nigerians living in Russia. I believe they know better.
Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 10:22am On Oct 15, 2022
Global economy news:
IMF sends horror recession warning - 'Worst is yet to come'

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Re: Gov. by Segun2222: 10:23am On Oct 15, 2022
olugabbie:


Well, from the graph you posted. Russians have more purchase power than France and Uk. In fact it is ranked 6th in the world. This is the country that some of you called shit hole. Someone was even comparing Russia to Nigeria.

Zelensky told the EU to stop Russians from going for vacation in the EU, last two months. Thousands of Russians routinely travel to other European countries to spend their vacations and return to Russia. They go the UK, Germany, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Hungary, Latvia, France, Poland, Italy e.t.c. They also go to China. These are the people you called poor people. in fact most of them have SHENGEN, strictly for tourism.

Russia is a developed country. It citizens enjoy basic amenities. It has one of the cheapest transportion system in the world. It has the highest, safest (no accident has occurred, except the bombing that occurred some years back), cheapest, most beautiful and most efficient (train arrives every 9secs) underground metro system in the world (Moscow Metro System). Other major cities like St Petersburg, Yekaterinburg e.t.c have their Metro Systems. Russia also has the safest and the longest high speed train in the world. They called the SAPSAN. It can pull. 20 carriages. Check it out on YouTube.

Russia has one of the best and the cheapest health care in the world. Russians don't go for medical tourism else. Remember they were the first to produce covid-19 vaccine, the Spunik-V. Countries like Serbia, Hungary, Argentina e.t.c bought the vaccine.

Russia dominates the artic. They have about 50 ice breaker ships (most are nuclear powered). These ships were built in/by Russia/Russians. The most powerful Ice breaker ship was commissioned last year. The ship nuclear plant can power a city of 200k population. US have just one. China has two.

Russia produces it own commercial plane. Sukhoi Superjet 100, MC 21 e.t.c were built in Russia. The BEE-200 is the only amphibian fire fighter plane in the world. This aircraft move from country to country to help tackle wild fire in Europe and Asia (Israel e.t.c).

Russia has one of the best educational system in Europe. The best tertiary institution in Russia is in St Petersburg. Russians rarely school abroad.

In agriculture, they are the largest exporter of grain in the world. Russia don't import food. They export. They are also one of the largest exporter of fertilizer which the US is one of the major beneficiaries.

In space technology. Everybody knows the impact of Russia.

Russia also export electricity. Most of the Nuclear plant you see around the world were built by the Russians.

Russia is the most sanctioned country in the World. Do you think UK, German, Italy or France can survive such sanctions. The answer is no, because they are dependent on other countries for energy, trade, food & security. Russia is self sufficient.

I can go on and on.

This is the country some of you compare with Nigeria and you called shit hole. Someone even said Russia is the most corrupt country in the world. Most people believe that Oligarchs rule Russia. But I believe Oligarch rule the world. There are Oligarchs everywhere. They are in US, Europe, Asia e.t.c. In the US, the Oligarchs are in the arms industries. They bribe (they called it LOBBYING) the parliamentarians to push bills that favour them.

I don't rely on what people say about Russia. I took my time to study the country. I watch documentaries, read books e.t.c about Russia. Trust me, it is a beautiful countries

In 2019, more than half a million (600k) people move to Russia. While about 200k moved out.
leave all this long thread, standard of living in the west is better if not Russians wont be emigrating there even their oligarchs dont stay in the country, how does ice breaker ship improve life of the common man? in nuclear energy Russia doesn't come even comes close, Russia produces their own which country developed country doesn't?

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Re: Gov. by iykofias(m): 10:24am On Oct 15, 2022
Russian kamikaze UAV "Lancet" destroyed 2 S-300 air defense systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye region

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Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 10:24am On Oct 15, 2022
Putin warns of ‘global catastrophe’ if Nato troops clash with Russian forces

(The Independent)

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Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 10:28am On Oct 15, 2022
Israel increases security amid escalating Palestinian violence in Jerusalem
Re: Gov. by baralatie(m): 10:33am On Oct 15, 2022
Live
LIVETruss under pressure, as new UK chancellor gets to work
Re: Gov. by iykofias(m): 10:39am On Oct 15, 2022
RAINING DESTRUCTION: Ukrainian army positions in Donetsk Republic, West Russia get completely ANNIHILATED by unceasing BLASTS launched by Russian multiple launch rocket systems, hitting enemies hidden in camouflaged posts, wiping them out in an instant.

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Re: Gov. by olugabbie(m): 10:50am On Oct 15, 2022
Segun2222:
leave all this long thread, standard of living in the west is better if not Russians wont be emigrating there even their oligarchs dont stay in the country, how does ice breaker ship improve life of the common man? in nuclear energy Russia doesn't come even comes close, Russia produces their own which country developed country doesn't?

The arctic is a future economic zone. Russia naturally controls about 50 of the entire artic region using the EEZ measures. There are trillions of dollar natural resource lying under the ice. Now the ice is disappearing gradually. When the ice finally disappear, a new sea route will be opened which will be under Russian control. Sometime similar to the SUEZ canal will be created (toll gate). Countries in Europe and in East Asia (China, Japan, South Korea) will abandon the SUEZ canal route for the new route, mainly because it is a short cut to the rest of the world.

Russia will be able to extract more resources. The cities in the region will be developed. The port will be expanded, Probably become one of the biggest in the world. It will create more employment opportunities for Russians and immigrants. More Russians will move to the artic to live and work.

When the US was busy fighting war all over the world and building military that is getting less and less effective as time goes by. The Russians and the Chinese are busy taken steps that will make them more powerful in the future.

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Re: Gov. by Alamkir: 10:54am On Oct 15, 2022
olugabbie:



There are two types of people in Russia. There are pro-West & pro-russia/nationalists. Those that believe in limitless freedom (homosexuality e.t.c) are leaving the country even before the war. Now more pro-West started leaving when the partial mobilisation started. These people don't believe in war. They believe all countries have their right to do whatever they want. Which is true. But the world is not fair. Big countries like US, China e.t.c can dictate to other countries irrespective of the right the small countries feel they have. That is the reality.

In 2021, 600k people moved to Russia from other countries and in the same year 200k moved out of Russia.

one calls u "retardedss" this one calls u deranged...... They are the one dolling out insult every second here, give them small, they will be screaming to heaven

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Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 10:58am On Oct 15, 2022
olugabbie:



Kindly excuse my initial comment. I didn't know. I never heard of it.

Well, there are Nigerians living in Russia. I believe they know better.
Still proving smart but actually retardêd by avoiding Europe nations vs Russia comparison.
I am waiting.

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