Why don't you guys quit this shit arguments, for God's sake if we don't believe in taking risks by having to trust someone someday or trying to pretend to act like fools, how then do u think successes will come our ways?

People in the western worlds has accounted for so many successful trials not because they knew what they were doing but because they believed in positivists and making out excels out of impossibilities.

Even if the Canadian Government, Agency or whosoever is willing to grant this number of Nigerians their Visa, don't we think that these arguments between ourselves could discourage them?

From history and research, Canada welcomes anybody into their country regardless of who you are or where you are from.
For example,
(1) how many terrorists attacks has been recorded against Canada?
(2) How many countries could claim that they have been invaded or fought by Canada?
ETC. This is because its a peaceful country and populated by foreigners from different parts of the world.

Please cut these craps or I will ban this thread. thank you.

jonescosmo:

Why don't you guys quit this poo arguments, for God's sake if we don't believe in taking risks by having to trust someone someday or trying to pretend to act like fools, how then do u think successes will come our ways?
People in the western worlds has accounted for so many successful trials not because they knew what they were doing but because they believed in positivists and making out excels out of impossibilities.
Even if the Canadian Government, Agency or whosoever is willing to grant this number of Nigerians their Visa, don't we think that these arguments between ourselves could discourage them?
From history and research, Canada welcomes anybody into their country regardless of who you are or where you are from. For example, (1) how many terrorists attacks has been recorded against Canada?
(2) How many countries could claim that they have been invaded or fought by Canada?
ETC. This is because its a peaceful country and populated by foreigners from different parts of the world.
Please cut these craps or I will ban this thread. thank you.

Who told you that nonsense? If Canadian welcome anybody into their country then Nigeria will be half empty by now.
Western worlds took calculative risks not this pure silly risk, you can go ahead and ban urself and the thread

Calling you s[i]t[/i]upid would be an insult to s[i]t[/i]upid people.

Why don't you guys quit this poo arguments, for God's sake if we don't believe in taking risks by having to trust someone someday or trying to pretend to act like fools, how then do u think successes will come our ways?

People in the western worlds has accounted for so many successful trials not because they knew what they were doing but because they believed in positivists and making out excels out of impossibilities.

Even if the Canadian Government, Agency or whosoever is willing to grant this number of Nigerians their Visa, don't we think that these arguments between ourselves could discourage them?

From history and research, Canada welcomes anybody into their country regardless of who you are or where you are from.
For example,
(1) how many terrorists attacks has been recorded against Canada?
(2) How many countries could claim that they have been invaded or fought by Canada?
ETC. This is because its a peaceful country and populated by foreigners from different parts of the world.

Please cut these craps or I will ban this thread. thank you.

Na wah oo. We are sorry Boss. You compare technological advancements to people fleeing their country in search of the golden fleece. Maybe you should lead these people to the embassy and get Visas for them so that we can all shut the hell up. Afterall, the country is full of foreigners and it has never been attacked. if you have travelled abroad recently, you would have noticed how badly Nigerians are treated by immigration officials of other countries even right here in Africa. These are the things we are trying to avoid.

There is nothing wrong with a critical appraisal.  A few hours the British PM was still defending his countries involvement in Libya.If you think talking about this is the reason country may be dissuaded  then you'd better have another think coming.

number of people going to canada now slashed to 4,200 other to wait till november 3rd 2011

Na Wah Oooo, Mariofemi has gone to hire mecenaries ooooo

oienst:

House, to confirm my person please go check and confirm even my previous  post outside of this thread in clothings in this forum.i beg kindly tell this mindless buffon called "justwise",to act  up like an adult-assuming he is one.

House,my question is this:if crystal knows how to make things happen(its own secret formula), do you think he will explain the details to you? if it doesnt,will that make it a scam?, if you think so then, vertually all humans had been conned because Cocacola never gave anybody their mixture or did google tell you how they made us to fall in love with the google site(least yahoo search was there earlier)and their andriod os.

As part of the "house" let me respond. Because you have one post on another thread does not necessarily make much of a difference.  One out of nine isn't significant.  Others have joined solely to respond to this thread. I've seen someone post up to 50 times but it was the same thing.  When I first joined NL I was involved in one thread, but within the first 9 posts I branched out to others.

If Crystal have a "secret formula" for getting workers for Canada, that automatically generates suspicion, and you can't blame Nigerians for that.  There is no "secret formula" for working in Canada for two years, unless that "secret" is to make money unscrupulously from Nigerians equally desperate to improve their lot in life.  I know of people who went to Canada as temporary workers (not from Nigeria), and what went on was no secret.  The sending organisation didn't repeatedly delay the trip for questionable reasons, there was no going to a third country for orientation.  "Secret formula" in Nigeria is always an excuse to circumvent due process and not operate above board.

You can't compare Coca Cola or Google to what is going on here.   They've taken advantage of the market, where they have broken local laws (such as Google having people's information via vulnerable wifi in the UK or Coca Cola's questionable bottled water in India), they also had to pay the price .  Neither Coca Cola or Google are so powerful that if they break the law or take advantage of vulnerable situations they will not be called to account.

If Crystal Services are sincere, then they are out of their depth on this one.

Dear Members,

I am still here in Lagos. Further to my last post I just want to explain that many services in Canada are on vacation or preparing to key-in on the changes in the new Canadian immigrant laws. Apparently, information on what's possible (and what's plausible) is at bay. Organizations are re-writing their guides and agreements in order to comply with what is envisaged on the new law. The processes from Crystal Services can only be deduced from its foreign partners in homeland Canada - if known.

If any of the forum members have any useful knowledge that can - intelligently - guide this forum, please do not hesitate to post them before September 4/5.

Thanks and good luck

CanImServ:

Dear Members,

I am still here in Lagos. Further to my last post I just want to explain that many services in Canada are on vacation or preparing to key-in on the changes in the new Canadian immigrant laws. Apparently, information on what's possible (and what's plausible) is at bay. Organizations are re-writing their guides and agreements in order to comply with what is envisaged on the new law. The processes from Crystal Services can only be deduced from its foreign partners in homeland Canada - if known.

If any of the forum members have any useful knowledge that can - intelligently - guide this forum, please do not hesitate to post them before September 4/5.

Thanks and good luck

I think you would be better off providing an email address or contact number that people can pass on any useful knowledge. Putting it on a public forum may make them vulnerable don't you think?

Dear Members,

I found this post intuitive and amusing. " There is no "secret formula" for working in Canada for two years,"

There is always a trade secret in every successful and legitimate business otherwise others will take advantage of your exposed skills. Trade secrets are never revealed to any one. However it is possible to be overly secretive and arouse suspicion. We are not however a strictly business network in Canada and do not have an office in Lagos. So, we urge those who are really concerned to stay close to their contacts at Crystal Services, engage an attorney or an investigative journalist and keep their eyes open.
Things might be better though, had Crystal Services had a comprehensive website.

Good Luck.

asedadvid@yahoo.com

N101:

I think you would be better off providing an email address or contact number that people can pass on any useful knowledge. Putting it on a public forum may make them vulnerable don't you think?

asedadvid@yahoo.com

To all doubting thomous
crystal gave me photocopy of my own visa/passport. Other go and collect yours if your applied. Manitoma my home. Thank GoD for crystal : dream come through

CanImServ:

Dear Members,

I found this post intuitive and amusing. " There is no "secret formula" for working in Canada for two years,"

There is always a trade secret in every successful and legitimate business otherwise others will take advantage of your exposed skills. Trade secrets are never revealed to any one. However it is possible to be overly secretive and arouse suspicion. We are not however a strictly business network in Canada and do not have an office in Lagos. So, we urge those who are really concerned to stay close to their contacts at Crystal Services, engage an attorney or an investigative journalist and keep their eyes open.
Things might be better though, had Crystal Services had a comprehensive website.

Good Luck.

"Secret formula" is applicable to running a business, not moving people people via immigration processes.  In this context we are talking of a business that wants to move 40 or 4000 people to another country to work.  I don't expect to know the graphic details but then when you hear a company is not going through the prescribed channels, people have every right to question them.

If there is anything "secretive" about the immigration process, that can only come from the government in question, not the potential immigrants/emigrants, nor those looking to send workers abroad.   While there are legitimate workarounds, no government wants to open themselves to litigation if "secrecy" - and I use the term loosely here - means double standards i.e. breaking their own immigration laws.

Even without a website, they could have done a better PR job.  Whoever felt the need to advertise on Crystal Services' behalf should have put all the relevant information in the first post, not scatter a number here or address there - you can't blame people for being suspicious if they do that.

member of this forum,it seems we are now getting to understand eeach other on some points here.its good this way rather than trading insult and not tackling the real issue,if there is any useful information we should always keep the forum informed,and if we go eventually,we will always keep you informed here as well
thanks and good luck to those that applied and to those that doesnt,we will all get to the place of our dream(i sign out)

mariofemi:

member of this forum[b],it seems we are now getting to understand eeach other [/b]on some points here.its good this way rather than trading insult and not tackling the real issue,if there is any useful information we should always keep the forum informed,and if we go eventually,we will always keep you informed here as well
thanks and good luck to those that applied and to those that doesnt,we will all get to the place of our dream(i sign out)

That is wrong, we are not understanding each other one bit, definitely not me. I still see this as a massive fraud,

Collecting N1000 + 50,700 naira, for fake medical report is fraud and a disgraceful one in that case

if someone somewhere is not happy that there is peace in this forum or not happy about my last post,am not seein him,she,it as a member of this forum.pls disregard my last thread,its not for you

if you are not ok with any amount charged or pay,then take the necessary step to help us.there is a police station near famous bus stop you are free to go there and make a petition,get across to relevant agencies to investigate.i believe thats what an educated person should do to address a situation.thanks

Can We take a look at these documents and see if they make any sense?
Also Feel free to verify here: http://www.immigratemanitoba.com/ and http://www.gov.mb.ca/ and http://www.gov.mb.ca/ctt/invest/pnp-b/apply.html and http://www2.immigratemanitoba.com/browse/howtoimmigrate/pnp-introduction.html
Please See Attachment here: http://www.gov.mb.ca/ctt/invest/pnp-b/pdf/ofb_brochure_en.pdf and http://www.gov.mb.ca/ctt/invest/pnp-b/pdf/explor_visit.pdf

Please read carefully !!!

Here again; http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/index.asp

mariofemi:

if someone somewhere is not happy that there is peace in this forum or not happy about my last post,am not seein him,she,it as a member of this forum.pls disregard my last thread,its not for you

if you are not ok with any amount charged or pay,then take the necessary step to help us.there is a police station near famous bus stop you are free to go there and make a petition,get across to relevant agencies to investigate.i believe thats what an educated person should do to address a situation.thanks

mariofemi, its a fraud to forge medical report, those victims will be denied a visa if  presented to the Canadian embassy.

The war against Crystal service in this forum will end soon , Mariofemi , u have really tried on here , you have enlightened many Nigerians with your posts . I wonder why some people are nosy and abusive about this matter , Mariofemi Kudos to you , its shows you are mature not only in age but in you taught and May God help you

jaypee4r:

The war against Crystal service in this forum will end soon ,  Mariofemi , u have really tried on here , you have enlightened many Nigerians with your posts . I wonder why some people are nosy and abusive  about this matter , Mariofemi Kudos to you , its shows you are mature not only in age but in you taught and May God help you

His post might have enlightened you but to many here-- all mariofemi's post exposes nothing but fraud. You don't get 2yrs Canadian work visa by merely buying a form, $1000 bank loan and fake medical report, you don't stand a chance.

justwise:

His post might have enlightened you but to many here-- all mariofemi's post exposes nothing but fraud. You don't get 2yrs Canadian work visa by merely buying a form, $1000 bank loan and fake medical report, you don't stand a chance.

@ Justwise, leave 'em alone. It's pointless trying to get some people to be logical in their reasoning.

Firstly,Canadian embassy don't do sponsorship in Nigeria. anyway,I have called Canadian embassy and I spoke with the Canadian Immigration and they re not aware of such a thing . I don't know the kinda type of sponsorship it's tho. You can only obtain sponsorship visa to Canada in Ghana. This is old type of scam and dunno why people fall for this . It's too good to be true,cos you guys said you'll pay for flight for 7000 people to Canada and give each of them $1000 for BTA. It's summer now,Fare of flight from Nigeria to Canada will cost not less than 250K. If such organisation is legitimate,they should have a website and contact information. This is not professional,cos if you can afford to book a flight ticket for 7000 Nigerians, You should be able to pay $100 for your website. Anyway good luck and have a good one.

7000 people is like 20 jumbo jets full!!!!!!!!!
Any air co that had 20 jets booked for special charter would be all over papers!!!!

Hey Scammer , Here is the number for canadian visa anti fraud and canadian Immigration, +18884958501, +18882422100 . Don't fall for this trash and garbage,call and confirm yourself. No go give dem money ooooooooo

@Ogundokun shut up your stinking mouth and listen! You are just acting like a kid when others are serious in this forum. I wondered where you get your own imformation or do you think we are here to play? Mind you,if you do not relevant information to share on this forum you matter back and stop shaking people's heart Ode!

crystal update: a text messages has been sent to all applicants to assemble at crystal office tommorrow 24 aug. for group photograph before their deperture. O ga ooo

crystal update: a text messages has been sent to all applicants to assemble at crystal office tommorrow 24 aug. for group photograph before their deperture. O ga ooo

ogundokun u be real foooooool slowpoke

A text sent 24 hours or less about a group photograph doesn't sound very organised.

too much of wisdom & knowledge is dangerous.

too much of wisdom & knowledge is much sorrow,