Goldieluks:

The Bible stated it clearly ''spare the rod,and spoil the child''. One cannot bring up a child merely by simple or severe warning.some children requires iron hand. Iron hand in the sense that as a parent you have to smack ttheir bum once in a while. I totally disagree with the animalistic way in which some parents tend to use as a disciplinary attitude. Take a look at UK today,the government had declared that any parent who beats up their child or even slaps their child would be subjected to arrest and so on. But take a look at the behaviour of youths of today,especially the youths in this very London,85 % of them are wild,spoilt,rude,mean,they do what they like and so on.

For example,if you do take the public transport once in while,like buses and train,lo and behold,you would get fed up with the displays and behaviours of these youths,dare to correct them,and a knife would be stick into your throat or abdomen.,if care is not taken. Can someone please tell me what generated this type of attitude that is portrayed by youths of today? Does this usually happens in our own Nigeria?I mean is it rampant or as popular? Let's go back home if some of us had not received the type of discipline we got from our parents only Go knows what we would have become. Challenge me if am wrong here.

Am not in support of flogging a child,but am in support of smacking a child when the need arises,cause sometimes a child needs that small element of fear.you cannot leave a child to go astray just because you simply do not want them to feel bad or maybe to be scared of you as a parent or something.
The word of the Bible always stands and if we as humans, we decide to paint it to suit our own taste or sense of reasoning,then different troubles may arise from different places,even from the slightess of places.

I totally agree with the floging method.

I remember back then in my family every child, in the house have his/her size of cane which only my mum use as the action woman.

Even in school it's everyday requirement for us to grow.

Some are saying it has Psychological effect. Of which is not true, If not for those cane and the iron like Goldie said, Hmmmm na Agbero some of us for be .

My mum do the beating while my dad did the advising back then which made me who i am today.

So to me Beating/floging and advicing goes together to make a child become a better person.

antitpiah:

Spare the rod, spoil the child

Beat the child, I say.

If possible, 'give am some blow,' if there is no cane or koboko nearby.


Or you can do like my friend's mother, when they offend you, do nothing until they are asleep. Wake them up in the middle of the night and give them the "shock and awe" treatment, with their body already soaked in water and their hands and legs tied together.

Trust me, your children will end up exactly they way you wanted.

ola-oluwa1:

He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him (Proverbs 13:24).

Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him (Proverbs 22:15).


Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die (Proverbs 23:13).

The rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother (Proverbs 29:15).


Spanking has been misused by many Christians (as well as non-Christians), and sometimes constitutes child abuse. However, when used within a nurturing, loving home, spanking can have very positive results.
When done well, spanking helps children grow in respect, obedience and self-control. It is not child abuse.
When done poorly, spanking results in anger and bitterness. It can harm children emotionally and physically, and may be child abuse.

Let's do it responsibly.

Thatdave:

i was floggd so many times in secondary sch. the flogging was done on back with 3 twistd 2.5 mm cables with the coper wire exposd in the tip. i have seen my own blood many times, i have had ma shirt torn many times by this coper tip . we calld that cane the claw. i have cleard half a football field of grass many times as punishment/ i have pickd pin a million times. i have been slappd and flogged with belt so many times that it doesnt pain any more! i and a hundred other persons graduated that day from the seminary . we were the best outside, even nw in this high institution all our old boys are dinstinction candidates. we are the best here. we have been raisd like spartarns the law outside here is too easy to keep. we were soldiers. we were seminarians.

He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him (Proverbs 13:24).

Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him (Proverbs 22:15).


Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die (Proverbs 23:13).

The rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother (Proverbs 29:15).


Spanking has been misused by many Christians (as well as non-Christians), and sometimes constitutes child abuse. However, when used within a nurturing, loving home, spanking can have very positive results.
When done well, spanking helps children grow in respect, obedience and self-control. It is not child abuse.
When done poorly, spanking results in anger and bitterness. It can harm children emotionally and physically, and may be child abuse.

Let's do it responsibly.

Goldieluks:



You have said it all,and any contradiction to this, would result to huge problems.  (write it on the wall) people.

Koolking:


well said Ola-Oluwa
I don't understand why some of us are afraid to do the right thing.

Most children take their parents unseriously if they are scolded verbally ever now and then. To make them realise the seriousness of your constant scolding you need to apply a little intimidating measures like flogging.

When i was a kid the fear of cane was the beginning of wisdom. The fear of flogging deterred us from acting contrary to the instructions of our parents.

If you believe flogging a child is an abuse on the child, then you better think twice. Children of nowadays need more flogging in order for them to step into the footprints of parents. Flogging your child does not make you bad/abuse parents. If the child grows up and become a nuisance to the society, the blame goes to you as irresponsible parents. If s/he is good, you become a reference of good parenting to the society.

Spare the rod and spoil the child, the Bible was not wrong.

eGuerrilla:

Quote from: ola-oluwa1 on Today at 10:23:52 AM


So you predicate your own understanding of childhood, the welfare of children and all it entails entirely on the book of proverbs.
Simple Simplicita!

Tell me how this makes you any different from those bent on implementing sharia in its purest form, thereby doing away with Nigeria's child rights act (http://www.unicef.org/wcaro/WCARO_Nigeria_Factsheets_CRA.pdf).

Rather than looking at all sides of the debate, you choose to shut it down by introducing beliefs that were once popular in the medieval world - much like our shariarists up North who have no qualms marrying off 10year old girls

Goldieluks:



Read my first post and you would see where am coming from.
i believe in the Bible and every word it says,the book of proverbs did not encourage parents
to kill their children,by a way of disciplining them,it only gave a warning that,if you as a parent,should
over look the bad side of a child and decides that 'TALKING'' with do the trick,you would spoil that child.

I totally go against the Sharia way of disciplinary,because in such laws,they kill people and make both
the old and young go through severe pain.And that is NOT what the book of Proverb was on about,so don't mix it please.

chaircover:

I disagree.

Not all "unsmacked" children end up spoilt and not all smacked children end up good.

I keep on saying that all children are different and your childs behaviour will determine how you choose to parent him/her.

The parent has to start instilling the difference between right and wrong from very early on, the parent must be available to train that child and the parent MUST also lead by example.

Its not just about christmas turkey, the occassional Mr Biggs and beating.

all4naija:

^^^^ You are the one confusing yourself here. Now you've turn flogging into smack! Jeez!

Take good care of yourself!