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Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by oluwasegun007(m): 1:01pm On Dec 06, 2022
What should they do when horney undecided
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by DonroxyII: 1:15pm On Dec 06, 2022
Danisaint112:
Wow awesome. This is a welcome development. If every country would emulate this the world would be a better place and will help in curbing not just unwanted pregnancy but help identify serious men.

As a parent you can now use this to arrest that rasta boy that has been disturbing your daughter.

This would seperate players from responsible men. grin I would love it if it's introduced here in Nigeria.
We need this as it will solve alot of issues.
No law is Absolute in itself, The would now be Sham Marriages just for Fvckery to take place and Divorces afterwards ..... That's if Abuses is not also promoted O the female gender....

The Most Important is promoting Good Governance and Philosophies that Promotes Goods not Evils .... But Laws, Human would rebels very soon especially Sexual Intercourse is like Food and Air to Many People .....

There would be fuckery away from Government as well as Abuses !
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Eniitankorede: 1:20pm On Dec 06, 2022
Gerrard59:


Generally, countries that enact religious laws tend to be poorer and backward in human development indices. A contrast to Indonesia is Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam. Those countries are richer, stable, functioning and more prosperous than Indonesia. You don't see Singaporeans working as maids in Saudi Arabia, and even semi-skilled Vietnamese who work outside the country are very choosy and opt to work in Singapore or Japan.

Religious laws do more harm than good to society.

@Topic: If not for the Chinese and Indian population, Malaysia would have done the same thing. Singapore was lucky she was pushed out of the union. Not all religions foster human development.



What a blast! Well done!




What has religious laws got to do with human development indices? Don’t they have religious laws in Dubai and Qatar? Don’t they have that at the Vartican?
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by DonroxyII: 1:22pm On Dec 06, 2022
babajero:
And you forget that this draconian decrees can make the once peaceful indonesia become the next afghanistan in no distant time.
Very well Possible: Except there are adequate Social Nets Promoted to ensuring Earlier Marriages if not the Youths would rebel in no distance future and the West Imperialism is also lurking around the corner to sieze Opportunities like this and penetrate under Guises of Human Rights Abuses which can lead to unrest and Chaos in Indonesia Once CIA, MOSSAD and M16 put eyes grin .....

That's what happened in Libya and most middle east !
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by noskcid(m): 1:53pm On Dec 06, 2022
10 million rupiah ($710).

So an American earning $5k monthly is a king in this country?

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Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by TheCongo2: 2:08pm On Dec 06, 2022
Sweetvie:
Nice one
If this is Nigeria just be ready to arrest 90% of Nigerians grin

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Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Expanse2020(m): 2:14pm On Dec 06, 2022
grin grin grin
DevilSignature:
grin

These people are very closer to heaven

Dear righteousness2 please kindly confirm me
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Bimpe29: 2:38pm On Dec 06, 2022
Beautiful!
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by aisha1314(f): 2:52pm On Dec 06, 2022
fergie001:
The bill was passed overwhelmingly by all political parties.



The new bill in Summary:

Sex outside marriage carries a potential one-year prison term though there are restrictions on who can lodge a formal complaint. For example, the parents of children who are cohabitating before marriage have the authority to report them.

Blasphemy laws have increased from "one to six provisions" including apostasy - renouncing a religion. For the first time since its independence, Indonesia will make it illegal to persuade someone to be a non-believer. This can now lead to a five-year prison sentence.

Ban on insults to the president and vice president, the sitting government as well as state institutions.

The ban on unsanctioned public demonstrations could unduly restrict the right to peaceful assembly.

What a useless and unnecessary law. In my opinion, there is absolutely no excuse for anyone or any government anywhere putting itself into or meddling in the sex lives of consenting adult or telling adults what they can and can't do with their bodies. People should be free to live their lives however they want as long as they cause no harm to anybody and consensual sex between adults does not cause harm.
So happy Nigeria doesn't have stupid useless laws like all these countries.
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Elidrisy20: 2:53pm On Dec 06, 2022
This law should be passed in Nigeria,to reduce untimely death of many men
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Nobody: 2:54pm On Dec 06, 2022
aisha1314:


What a useless and unnecessary law. In my opinion, there is absolutely no excuse for anyone or any government anywhere putting itself into or meddling in the sex lives of consenting adult or telling adults what they can and can't do with their bodies. People should be free to live their lives however they want as long as they cause no harm to anybody and consensual sex between adults does not cause harm.
So happy Nigeria doesn't have stupid useless laws like all these countries.
all you think about is sex sex and sex we are not on this earth for coitus
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by grandstar(m): 2:57pm On Dec 06, 2022
RichDad1:

Indonesia is majority Muslim country with almost 90%. There’s nothing secular that.

Being majority Muslim does not mean it is neither secular or can not be strive to be.

Tunisia and Turkey, both countries with near 100% Islamic population once had very liberal secular laws. It was so secular that both countries had laws restraining the use of the hijab to some degree. In turkey, hijab wearing women could not wear when entering a public building. In turkey if I'm correct, men were limited to one wife each.
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by oloyedewaris(m): 3:03pm On Dec 06, 2022
Romanoff:


There is no christian that supports the LGBT.

Know this and educate yourself.
Ahhh, I thought you people always brag about America and Europe being Christian nations
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by oloyedewaris(m): 3:06pm On Dec 06, 2022
Romanoff:


There is no christian that supports the LGBT.

Know this and educate yourself.
Ahhh, I thought you people always brag about America and Europe being Christian nations


Even their churches now join same sex marriage in holy matrimony
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by dbaptist1(m): 3:06pm On Dec 06, 2022
fergie001:
Indonesia, the world’s third-largest democracy, cleared a sweeping overhaul of its criminal code on Tuesday, outlawing sex outside of marriage, defamation of the president and sharply expanding its laws against blasphemy.

The new rules, which also apply to foreigners in the country, have drawn criticism from human rights activists, businesspeople and students who warned of the risks posed to the L.G.B.T. community and religious minorities. Opponents also said that the rules threatened the global reputation that Indonesia, which has the world’s largest Muslim population, has built as a tolerant, widely secular nation.

Indonesian officials say upgrading the existing criminal code, which dates back to 1918 when Indonesia was a Dutch colony, was long overdue. Among the raft of new laws, penalties around consensual sex outside marriage have drawn the most criticism.
According to the new law, unmarried couples who “live together as a husband and wife” could be jailed for six months or face a maximum fine of 10 million rupiah ($710).



this guy looks like a low budget Obama




SOURCE
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Powerfly(f): 3:14pm On Dec 06, 2022
Lol I'm happy.... If it was homosexuality now...the same people crying foul here would have been reminding us that God destroyed Sodom...lol..but they forgot that God destroyed over 2thousand Israelites because of fornication with the children of Moab.


Lol..dirty hypocrites... sad shocked cheesy cheesy
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Powerfly(f): 3:15pm On Dec 06, 2022
aisha1314:


What a useless and unnecessary law. In my opinion, there is absolutely no excuse for anyone or any government anywhere putting itself into or meddling in the sex lives of consenting adult or telling adults what they can and can't do with their bodies. People should be free to live their lives however they want as long as they cause no harm to anybody and consensual sex between adults does not cause harm.
So happy Nigeria doesn't have stupid useless laws like all these countries.



Hope you'll hold the same opinion if the table turned to LGBT law..

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Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Creamypie(m): 3:42pm On Dec 06, 2022
Kobonaire234:


Has he sent an equivalent law to the National Assembly for passage then?
as milloyary dictator, he made anti cocaine law/capital punishment for such offence, which affected those already in Prison b4 the law was made. They were all executed. This same idiot who truncated democracy in 1983 December 31, was same person who became president from 2015 to 2023, with harsh policies. If he had d opportunity, he would enact it sir
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Nobody: 3:43pm On Dec 06, 2022
Creamypie:
as milloyary dictator, he made anti cocaine law/capital punishment for such offence, which affected those already in Prison b4 the law was made. They were all executed. This same idiot who truncated democracy in 1983 December 31, was same person who became president from 2015 to 2023, with harsh policies. If he had d opportunity, he would enact it sir

Yes he did, that was when he was a dictator.

As a civilian ruler, he can't do that.

(It is called democracy.)
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by babajero(m): 4:08pm On Dec 06, 2022
DonroxyII:
Very well Possible: Except there are adequate Social Nets Promoted to ensuring Earlier Marriages if not the Youths would rebel in no distance future and the West Imperialism is also lurking around the corner to sieze Opportunities like this and penetrate under Guises of Human Rights Abuses which can lead to unrest and Chaos in Indonesia Once CIA, MOSSAD and M16 put eyes grin .....

That's what happened in Libya and most middle east !
I think it's about time you people stop blaming the West for the stupidity of islam and it's minions. Because you can't tell me that the unrest happening in iran the West have anything to do with it but the stupidity of islam and it's minions.
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by babajero(m): 4:15pm On Dec 06, 2022
Romanoff:


There is no christian that supports the LGBT.

Know this and educate yourself.
the muslims practice homosexuality covertly more than even the lgbt.
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Danisaint112(m): 4:23pm On Dec 06, 2022
Jevica:


You must be speaking on behalf of ladies. but let me shock you, it will lead to high level of self pleasing by way of musturbation and intimacy gadgets addiction. Get that straight. Marriage is a serious commitment that must be sustain.

Just imagine. grin How is that anyone business? It won't affect anybody. You please yourself for yourself alone and face the consequences alone. And you only get to be responsible for your sins now without dragging anyone to hell with you.

We are talking about something that has affected not just two but multiple parties you are here trying to pluck justification from nowhere.

Let me ask you this question: How would you feel if you heard your jnr sis or relative has been impregnated by her Boyfriend (BF)? Sad right?

Now she and her BF are not the only ones affected. You get affected too because she has somehow brought shame to your family which will take long time to heal and get over. Now you get that straight.

That's just one of the disadvantage of premarital sex.

I haven't even talked about STDs, play boys use and dump lifestyle, girls being used as ritual during sex, teenage pregnancy, loss of self-respect, loss of family support and so on.

Let us all stop justifying nonsense. Even if God didn't instruct us not to engage in it, morally and medically engaging in sex with multiple parties is wrong.

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Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Danisaint112(m): 4:40pm On Dec 06, 2022
DonroxyII:
No law is Absolute in itself, The would now be Sham Marriages just for Fvckery to take place and Divorces afterwards ..... That's if Abuses is not also promoted O the female gender....

The Most Important is promoting Good Governance and Philosophies that Promotes Goods not Evils .... But Laws, Human would rebels very soon especially Sexual Intercourse is like Food and Air to Many People .....

There would be fuckery away from Government as well as Abuses !

The question is what good has premarital sex brought to the world?

We are talking about unwanted pregancy, STDs, play boys use and dump lifestyle, girls being used as ritual during sex, teenage pregnancy, loss of self-respect, loss of family support and so on.

Let us all stop justifying nonsense. Even if God didn't instruct us not to engage in it, morally and medically engaging in sex with multiple parties is wrong. DYOR.

The advantage or remaining chaste outweighs the disadvantage by far.
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by SIRTee15: 4:42pm On Dec 06, 2022
oloyedewaris:

Ahhh, I thought you people always brag about America and Europe being Christian nations

They are not Christian nations but their system is based on judeo- Christian ideology. Learn the difference.
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Gohs: 4:46pm On Dec 06, 2022
The part I don't like is where they said if you persuade someone from Islam, you'll be jailed.

Freedom of religion is a basic human right.

You can explain to someone to join another religion — that should not be a crime.

Vote wisely next — may Shari'a not conquer Nigeria ooo!

Vote Peter Obi 2023 grin
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Gospel2Day: 4:55pm On Dec 06, 2022
Slaves and addicts of sexual sins won't like this one.
Nothing put in the way of their roasting forever and ever in the Lake of Fire will deter or stop them

They will soon start visiting or migrating to surrounding countries so they can continue to serve their slave master and feed their addiction
Pitiable creatures.
May they find deliverance in Jesus soonest and be set free from their sexual bondage.
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by JasonScoolari: 5:20pm On Dec 06, 2022
TheNiceGuy:
It's better you do if you can't adhere to their rule of law.

If you can be singing prais le song on International thief like ibori, who are you to condemn their rule of law which is part of their religion doctrine
I would have sing the praise of your Dad if he was an international thief, quite sad he is a local and village thief.


God bless Chief James Onanefe Ibori.

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Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by TheNiceGuy(m): 5:42pm On Dec 06, 2022
It would have been better you do that for your Dad when his popularity supersses that of Aninih. Think about it

JasonScoolari:
I would have sing the praise of your Dad if he was an international thief, quite sad he is a local and village thief.


God bless Chief James Onanefe Ibori.
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by dataking: 5:45pm On Dec 06, 2022
4ward4:


Then you don't know the transition, Christiandom have been through. No Christain Governing Society is accepting the LGBT. It is a thiugh battle for the Church.
Christiandom have learnt to put Religion and Democratic Rule In place. The church isn't Compulsory Forcing the Canon Law on any individual. Such law Is bidding on you if you wholly accept it should bind on you.
Islam haven't learnt that yet, it is still a young bubbling Religion. Christianity was worse than that, banking was practically imposed and created by the church and many other forced doctrine. The church have learnt you can't force a human on If truly you are talking about DEMOCRACY...

There is a Curve, Islam is basically starting on the Curve it will get to a Zone and their will be a break on the Curve.The first step will be the Rebel from their people, Islam celebrate Dictatorship and oppression. The people will break that chain soon.

Trash
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by JasonScoolari: 5:45pm On Dec 06, 2022
TheNiceGuy:
It would have been better you do that for your Dad when his popularity supersses that of Aninih. Think about it

Hypocrite licking Aregbesola arse, but is against me praising my boss.


Chief Odé. grin

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Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by Thazard(m): 6:26pm On Dec 06, 2022
Danisaint112:
Wow awesome. This is a welcome development. If every country would emulate this the world would be a better place and will help in curbing not just unwanted pregnancy but help identify serious men.

As a parent you can now use this to arrest that rasta boy that has been disturbing your daughter.

This would seperate players from responsible men. grin I would love it if it's introduced here in Nigeria.
We need this as it will solve alot of issues.
gringringrin
Re: Indonesia Criminalises Pre-marital Sex, Co-habitation Of Unmarried Couples by DonroxyII: 6:41pm On Dec 06, 2022
Danisaint112:


The question is what good has premarital sex brought to the world?

We are talking about unwanted pregancy, STDs, play boys use and dump lifestyle, girls being used as ritual during sex, teenage pregnancy, loss of self-respect, loss of family support and so on.

Let us all stop justifying nonsense. Even if God didn't instruct us not to engage in it, morally and medically engaging in sex with multiple parties is wrong. DYOR.

The advantage or remaining chaste outweighs the disadvantage by far.

You are very Correct, I'm a Moralist Myself But I don't believe in Autocratic Moralism But Democratic Moralism !

Law against Premarital Sex Wouldn't Actually solve Premarital sex it would only make it obscure because Human would still find means to sabotage and Shag one another far from the eyes of Government and their Guardians ....

If not,

Masturbation would be Promoted leading to Dire Consequences Associated with Self Relationships..... Self Relationships leads to Mental Depression and Retardation as well as Social Withdrawal ....

Another Problem the law might caused is Promotion of Sham Marriages for Sexual Purposes Only and Divorces/Separations afterwards .... Now, How do You Curb Such Menance too

As we are Curbing one Problem another Problem is Raising Her Heads which also requires Managements......

I'm not against that Law, I'm only speaking to the scientific implications of Such Laws!

The Law I would love is Once a Man Impregnates a Woman, She automatically becomes Your Wife On DNA confirmation that the Foetus/Child is the Man's and The Man Must be Fully Responsible for the Upkeep of the Pregnancy and the Expectant Mother as well as the Mother and Child on Delivery till The Age of Maturities ....

No Woman should be made to Raise Her Pregnancy and Child Alone till Maturity of that Child !

If we fvck Each Other together, We must be Responsible and Bear the Consequences Emanating therefrom the Fvckeries together!

The Female Specie must be Protected

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