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Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by mitofag: 11:46pm On Sep 12, 2011 |
^^^ Google baby. Don't be that guy for god's sake! Yeah Sagamite knows a lot. Rejection, they say, is the best teacher. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by datnigga: 11:56pm On Sep 12, 2011 |
Google baby. Don't be that guy for god's sake! most of the things on google are posted by ppl like u and i!!!, any1 can post info on the internet, duh!!! so y not ask someone that has insight into it and hear frm there mouth instead of from random posts on the internet? and mind u, i av googled it as well bt its not convincing enuf |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by mitofag: 11:58pm On Sep 12, 2011 |
datnigga: I guess Sagamite has a more credible source than Google? Perhaps, he uses "Saggle." Viva La Sagamite. The intellectual God of bad googlers. :::SMH::: Insight ko, tifunloran ni. Sagamite must have attended all the unis in UK for such great insight about UK unis. To each ediot his own. Sagamite, work your magic na. www.saggle.com |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by datnigga: 12:10am On Sep 13, 2011 |
^^^ dude go and sleep. all i ask was if he knew about it or know ppl dere! isnt it beta to hear from ppl dt went dere than to use google dt u dnt knw who posted reviews? stop being childish. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by mitofag: 12:23am On Sep 13, 2011 |
datnigga: I was just messing with you. The last time I was also looking into UK unis, I tried Google so tey my hands started melting, still NOTHING. But to my amazement, it took Saga 1 second to find the information I spent years looking for. Ignore everything I have said before now, wait for Sagamite, my good friend and SEFAGO's bosom confidant, to come online. He will avail you all you ever need to know, FROM EXPERIENCE, about Cranfield University. It is unfortunate they dont have a website. Bummer! While you wait, you can browse through other NL sections. There is no better way to spend your time than doing just that. Sagamite will come online to spoon-feed a grown arse man like you. Thats his job, and trust me, thats the only thing he has ever excelled at, dishing out first hand info about UK unis. With people like you, the future of Nigeria looks unimaginably bright |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by datnigga: 8:29am On Sep 13, 2011 |
I was just messing with you. The last time I was also looking into UK unis, I tried Google so tey my hands started melting, still NOTHING. But to my amazement, it took Saga 1 second to find the information I spent years looking for. ode ni bobo yi mehn, its ppl like u dt get snipped in the head for thrash talking. first of, i ask sagamite not you nigga! last time i checked, your name is mitoFAG. no wonder, u r an attention seeking LovePeddler. silly FAGGOTT! mind your fucckking business ma nigga. who r u to tell me what to do wit my time??, if u had a life, wt are u doing on nairaland at 12midnight. please, mind your bizness!! u dont knw me, i dnt knw u and i don't intend to. u said ppl like me is why nigeria's future is not bright but u r wrong fool. its because of ppl like u who cant converse in a constructive manner. this is why black on black crime is on the increase because now, all u av succeded in doing is inciting anger in me and hence trade of words. Grow up fool, its nt by force to comment on every post! like seriously, who d funk are you to tell me what to do?? egbami |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by chamber2(m): 12:29pm On Sep 13, 2011 |
datnigga: Bros no vex. Na wetin we dey see here o. Dem just escape from Yaba left. We still dey look for many of dem Abeg, if u see anyone around your area call Not-eight-Not Tanx |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by mrjingles(m): 1:07pm On Sep 13, 2011 |
Na wa o! Una still dey argue? This has degenerated into a proper D.!ck measuring contest. Clash of the titans-ajanlekoko v seafago v mitofag v sagamite v everyother pesin, this na royal rumble! Lemme get ma popcorn and lager. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by coogar: 9:16am On Sep 15, 2011 |
woetooam4j: you are a tool of epic proportion. i reiterate, cultism does not exist in that university. . . .they get beaten up like pickpockets in oshodi. if anyone has extorted you by saying he's a cult boy of o-a-u, go and collect your money back from him. . . .he's just a wannabe.
i will assume this is how you greet the members of your household every morning. doncaster: i was in the campus when that incident happened in july 99. it was externally planned. boys from the other universities came in to attack members of the students union committee - because some mummy's boys who called themselves boys in oau were apprehended and were beaten to a pulp by awo boys. the awo boys then marched them without clothes to the female hostels to complete the humiliation. no man born of a woman calls himself a cult boy openly in o-a-u.
just like i have said. . . . . .some little men decided to form a group and called themselves with zero activity in the campus. in their drunken state, the information leaked and before they could spell saturday, awo boys were on them, invaded their rooms and found a piece of 36 rounds on one of them. they were publicly beaten, mashed and battered. . . . .they went back home to report to external members of the . . . . . . |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by chamber2(m): 1:24pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
coogar: What you are saying holds no water. As far as Nigerian universities are concerned cultism is the order of the day. OAU may have minimal level of cult activities but that does not suggest that the university is devoid of cultism. The degree of cultism in the west currently is unmatched. You claimed that eastern universities have the highest level of cultism.But Schools like Unad, Lasu, Akintola Uni etc are currently the leading universities in cult related activities. Cultism is a menace among Nigerian universities, even though there seem to be a change in focus, from cultism to ''yahoo yahoo'' which is currently keeping boys ''busy.'' Every university now has an anti cult group, composed mainly of students. So, it is not peculiar to OAU. My Uni for instance had an anti cult group called ''peace on campus.'' Any suspected cult member, just like in OAU, was severely dealt with by the student security outfit. One thing with Nigerian university students is that those in the west seem not to know that there are other universities in Nigeria except their western universities. The easterners also share the same sentiment. We don't give a bleep about OAU, UI and the rest. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by coogar: 1:33pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
chamber2: i reiterate, oau is devoid of cultism. there are several graduates of that school on this forum. . . . .pull them here and let them tell you about awo boys. awo boys have their court rooms, torture chambers and prison cells for any student that misbehaves. if anyone is suspected of cultism, he would prefer to be arrested by policemen and locked in the prison than to be taken to the awo boys. if you don't know - now you know!!!
awo boys are not anti cult group - they are the students' union plus any student interested in preserving peace on the campus. awo boys are the biggest posse in any nigerian university and the most powerful. . . . .i don't know much about other universities in the south west but eastern schools and some schools in edo/delta states have always been the most notorious in cultism. those in the west are very aware there are other universities in the east and they know most of them are shyte schools - this is why there are more eastern students in the western universities than vice versa. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by chamber2(m): 1:44pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
coogar: I stated earlier that other universities have an anti cult group composed mainly of students. How is this different from the awo boys? Let me tell you, only very few western universities can stand south-eastern universities. Maybe only the likes of OAU, UI and maybe Unilag. Quote me anywhere. People graduate from eastern universities and yet grab all the jobs in the west. The west has the highest number of unemployed graduates. So, get your facts right. You seem to have left home for long. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by Nobody: 1:46pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
chamber2: How did we get here |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by coogar: 1:49pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
chamber2: the only school in the east that can stand toe to toe with the 3 schools you listed from the west is uni of nigeria(nnsuka). others are overhyped polytechnics as far as i am concerned.
you are very correct - the west has the highest number of unemployed graduates and that is because they go to school more than their eastern youths counterparts who populate 90% of the alaba market instead of learning chem 101. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by chamber2(m): 1:49pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
naijababe: coogar just came back from vacation and decided to exhume a forgotten topic. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by coogar: 1:51pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
chamber2: i am still on vacation. . . . the fact is there are more western graduates than their eastern counterparts. . . .and thus there would be more unemployed graduates in the west than the east - but in terms of ratio, it's debatable! |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by mitofag: 1:52pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
It matters not how we got here, the most important thing is that we are here. And this is what we have to deal with. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by chamber2(m): 1:55pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
coogar: No, you are wrong. Statistics both from Waec, Jamb and Nysc have shown that the SE have the highest enrollment for about a decade or so now. I still think you have been away for too long |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by coogar: 1:59pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
chamber2: waec and jamb are immaterial to the topic of discussion. matriculation is different from convocation. . . . many actually matriculated with only a fraction of them graduating in the end. . . . now, let us see your statistics where it says westerners have a lower nysc enrolment than the easterners. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by debosky(m): 2:06pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
naijababe: Sharon works for the railway crew - derailment is their speciality. By co-opting an Eastern Nigeria defender into the mix by throwing bait denigrating eastern schools, he achieved his goal. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by coogar: 2:13pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
debosky: you are a tool, you animalistic trolling eboue. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by chamber2(m): 2:45pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
coogar: Table 2.1. Literacy Rates by State, 15—24-year-olds, All and Females. 1991 Highest Lowest State Total Female State Total Female ___________________________________________________________________________________ Imo 95.0 94.2 Yobe 36.9 23.4 Anambra 93.1 92.4 Kebbi 40.5 28.6 Rivers 92.8 90.2 Sokoto 41.1 28.9 Abia 90.4 88.5 Borno 43.2 29.9 Osun 89.4 86.2 Taraba 47.5 26.8 Ondo 89.2 86.6 Katsina 48.4 35.5 __________________________________________________________________________________ Source: Federal Government of Nigeria 2001, table 51. Table 2.6. Adult Literacy and Rates of Ever Attended School, Selected States, 2001/02 (percent) Zone/State Adult Literacy (15+ years) Ever Attended School Male Female Poor Male Female Poor _________________________________________________________________________ North West Jigawa 51 Kebbi 32 North East Yobe 26 North Central Kogi 74 South East Abia 87 Enugu 80 South South Cross Rivers 79 South West Ekiti 78 _______________________________________________________________________ Note: Poor refers to members of the poorest one-fifth of households. Source: Various Core Welfare Indicator Questionnaire tables. South West. With an average rate of participation for 11 year olds of 94 percent, not many children have never been enrolled in school. There is virtually no difference between males and females, or between rural and urban children. South East. The average rate for 11 year olds is 97 percent. The rural rate is higher than the urban rate and the male rate is higher than the female rate. The lowest among these rates, however, is 93 percent. http://siteresources.worldbank.org/AFRICAEXT/Resources/no_53.pdf The above is just an old stat, but it has a lot to say about the Nigeria educational system/enrollment. You can download the PDF document. Unfortunately, i was unable to get data on Nysc enrollment online. But i do have a hard copy of it which is not readily available at the time being. But you have to understand that, recently the SE tops in school enrollment and Nysc mobilisation. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by coogar: 2:51pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
i will download the pdf. . . . . . you are really a time-waster, ain't you? all i keep seeing is adult education, primary school and secondary school. . . where is the statistics about university graduates? then when it says south east or south west. . . .is that state of origin of the students, or the state of the schools attended? if chukwuemeka of imo state attends unilag. . . will the stat reads south east or south west. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by chamber2(m): 3:02pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
coogar: This is a 2010 publication by the National Bureau of statistics http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/uploads/latestRelease/de4f17834ea0c57a9e1f440d029aebaa460863d0.pdf All information regarding literacy level in Nigeria are contained therein. If time permits, i may still upload data on Nysc mobilisation by state of origin. So, there is no basis to suggest that western universities are doing better than SE universities. In fact, i once lived in Oyo and Osun state and i can say that non of these states can match imo and enugu state in terms of refinement and literacy. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by chamber2(m): 3:16pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
coogar: I gave you data on literacy level of people between 15—24-year-old. and yet you are asking of stat on university graduates. people who are between ages 15-24 are expected to have graduated or about to graduate from the secondary school and universities respectively. The average graduation age for Nigerian universities is about 24-25 years. So, what do you make of that? |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by coogar: 3:24pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
chamber2: i take it that all 15-24 yr olds in each region all go to universities, isn't it? no one goes to other post-secondary schools, polytechnics, technical schools or colleges of education, right? it seems you still don't know the difference between a degree holder and a higher national diploma holder. . . the topic of discussion is university graduate . . . . not 15-24 literacy group. more students within that age group might have preferred to attend other tertiary institutions but a university in the south east more than the south west. this will then skew the statistics and you would not get the accurate figures of who actually bagged a b.sc degree. chamber2: i have seen the 2nd link but you are drifting off tangent now. literacy level at the university level would be more complex because by then there's more migration at the tertiary institution levels. you have only proven eastern states in general have more literacy level. . . .you have not been able to isolate tertiary institutions or gone deeper to isolate university graduates as we all know tertiary can mean polytechnics, colleges of education and universities. . . . the stats provided have not supported your claim that there are more graduates in south east universities than the south west. i will wait patiently for your nysc mobilization stats. . . . . .the stats you provided here is just pissing in the wind. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by chamber2(m): 3:32pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
coogar: My reference to literacy level was in response to your claim here; ''you are very correct - the west has the highest number of unemployed graduates and that is because they go to school more than their eastern youths counterparts who populate 90% of the alaba market instead of learning chem 101.'' |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by coogar: 3:36pm On Sep 15, 2011 |
chamber2: apologies for the error of omission. . . that should have been written as - "the west has the highest number of unemployed university graduates. . . ." |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by Nobody: 12:29am On Sep 16, 2011 |
Heya |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by mitofag: 12:33am On Sep 16, 2011 |
detriot007: If you want to work in Nigeria, I say yes. That said, it doesnt matter what you decide to do, the fact that you have a foreign degree puts you in a good position to negotiate how you want to be treated in Nigeria. A 2:2 from a UK university is better than a First Class from any Nigerian university. You can quote me anyday. Congrats for completing your education. The World, especially Nigeria, is now your oyster |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by mrjingles(m): 11:24am On Sep 16, 2011 |
^^ Thats was pre meltdown bros, now there are highly qualified guys with same foreign degree AND experience who are jobless especially in finance and banking, there is no oyster, no deceive the poor guy abeg. |
Re: Are Second Class Lower Graduates Still Relevant In Our Society? by Sagamite(m): 12:28pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
datnigga: Don't mind the moronic troll! He is so daft and useless at using the Googling he is recommending, he did not check Princeton's website to see what programmes they offer claiming we was studying Medicine in Princeton, when Princeton does not offer it? He is a dimwit, desperate, hood-rat. |
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