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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by vastolord4(m): 3:40pm On Feb 05, 2023
BigDawsNet:


You heard China is claiming the Sea belongings to Philippines,Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam, and Brunei?..

The US are allies to those countries and the only way to protect them from China is to mount a based

Yes! Ukraine is a sovereign nation from russia, so is Russia.
Therefore, Russia n Ukraine are 1. Imagine your independent son brings a bad wife to the family, you as a father know the kind of woman she is but your son is only doing it for her pants and imaginary love she doesn'thave for him cos he's loaded! The US are cunning but doesn't mean I won't be a visitor there.. lol
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by vastolord4(m): 3:50pm On Feb 05, 2023
generalwo:
..... Did they mount a base in China? What if the balloon was indeed a spy equipment.... So because they don't want to be in your bad books, they should allow other enemy countries spy on them.... Abeg gettat

China is only doing to them what they'll do to some other weak country.. do you know the US carry some OPs in most 3rd world countries? There's a reason they're the most hated country

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by vastolord4(m): 3:51pm On Feb 05, 2023
Abiliboi:
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There is no backyard in sovereignty. Either yours or others'. All nation in her lane and diplomacy is free. Shun tyranny.

Until your son brings a bad wife to your family! Then i wonder who the tyrant would be?? undecided
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by vastolord4(m): 3:53pm On Feb 05, 2023
BigDawsNet:


You heard China is claiming the Sea belongings to Philippines,Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam, and Brunei?..

The US are allies to those countries and the only way to protect them from China is to mount a based

Bro, China n Russia are cool the last time I checked and for China not be be in Russia's bad book, they'll need to stay away from Ukraine. And as far as possible
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Beey(f): 4:05pm On Feb 05, 2023
useni1:
mumu. China already destroyed ant American military in the past. Slaughtering them for fun in the Korean war. Killed them so much and chased them all over Asia headless
Must you use insults to pass your message? Besides it’s like you are beating drums of war as if you’d want it to happen. When two bulls fight, the grass suffers. We felt the heat with Russia & Ukraine with oil prices escalating. I don’t know why anyone would wish war to prove what country has best military capability.

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 4:07pm On Feb 05, 2023
"Little by little we managed to collect 8 million signatures" https://odysee.com/@RTDocumentary:4/Battle-for-Africa:9
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Elidrisy20: 4:10pm On Feb 05, 2023
omonnakoda:
US that was served breakfast,lunch ,dinner by Taliban? They were even given takeaway
you dey naija, you dey give China lever
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by felzokugo(m): 4:24pm On Feb 05, 2023
useni1:
After all data have been collected and sent to Beijing. Americans are clowns. The overhyped US. Tranny military won't last 30mins in a war with China.

U sure??
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Karnice600: 4:34pm On Feb 05, 2023
useni1:
After all data have been collected and sent to Beijing. Americans are clowns. The overhyped US. Tranny military won't last 30mins in a war with China.

You be idiot.
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by AFRICANJAMAICA: 4:35pm On Feb 05, 2023
useni1:
After all data have been collected and sent to Beijing. Americans are clowns. The overhyped US. Tranny military won't last 30mins in a war with China.

Terrorists dont like america..

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Karnice600: 4:38pm On Feb 05, 2023
Emu4life:

Most Countries are only allies to US to avoid getting bullied. The United States have but very few true Friends.
They have made so many foes/adversaries because of thier reckless foreign policy of invading weaker sovereign Nations at will.
It's not about religion.
Are Cubans, Venezuelans, Vietnamese etc Muslims??

Your family members crave a US visa in order to avoid being bullied too abi?

You and all the people who liked your comments are useless to our meaningful existence as a nation

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Emu4life(m): 5:02pm On Feb 05, 2023
Karnice600:


Your family members crave a US visa in order to avoid being bullied too abi?

You and all the people who liked your comments are useless to our meaningful existence as a nation
Wrong, The United States won't make my Top 50 travel list. Don't make YOUR FAMILY a YARDSTICK.

As for your last paragraph, I'd say your parents did a bad job, your Teachers too. Shalom

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by donmik: 5:11pm On Feb 05, 2023
SweetSauce:

I still don't get the reason for the 8 you Muslims have towards America. angry
Funny enough, China nor send una religion.

Abi o

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 5:27pm On Feb 05, 2023
wirinet:


Completely trashed, how? Was there any battle the Taliban won against the US and its coalition? How many US soldiers died in direct conflict compared with those of the Taliban.

The war US and its coalition lost in Afghanistan was the ideological war and not the military war. The US tried to impose a Liberal democracy in Afganistan, and it fail. Islamic fundamentalist ideology won. The US equipped and trained the Afgan Military even more more than Ukraine, but the Afghan people were not ready to fight. The Ukraine people are prepared to fight even if given only spears and stones.

Once again the US did not lose the military war in Afganistan, they lost the ideological war.
wirinet:


so, who should be blamed for the Taliban taking over Kabul just 3 days after the US military left? Maybe its US citizens. Maybe you expect US citizens to fly to kabul to defend the country against the Taliban.

Since what you said was factual, why not give us links or reports where the Taliban won actual battles against the US military.
Your statements are punctuated with contradictions.
You seem confused.
It's very foolish to say America lost the ideological war but won the millitary war because that is a conflicting statement. Why? The Talibans fight based on ideology.

Secondly, a goal of engaging in a millitary conflict is to ensure that the enemy side is neutralized and incapacitated..I.e unable to pose further threat to your country (the US led coalition lost, the govt of Afghanistan is headed by the Talibans)

The Talibans prevailed over the US led coalition due to thier relentless fighting spirit and thier belief (ideology)
So, my dear, ideology is closely related and influential to millitary conflicts.

The US led coalition tried to break the Taliban, they tried for 20 years and they failed miserably!!
In an unsurprising move of betrayal, the US shamelessly abandoned it's allies.
The withdrawal is reminiscent of Saigon (Vietnam), another loss on the US list.
Real life is not Hollywood.
Tbh, your ignorance is not actually my responsibility..you can continue at your failed attempt to distort reality.
The US was defeated by the Taliban..those US soldiers that died in vain, what killed them?


“The catastrophic Chinese Spy Balloon Spectacle clearly threatened American families from Alaska to my home community in South Carolina and confirms President Biden and Vice President Harris should resign,” House Armed Services Committee member Joe Wilson of South Carolina wrote in a multi-part Twitter thread Saturday night.

“My call for their resignation was valid in August 2021 due to the surrender and disastrous withdrawal in Afghanistan, creating a safe haven for terrorists to attack American families,” Wilson wrote

Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Judybash93(m): 5:31pm On Feb 05, 2023
ogunprince18:

The US is the one messing with them. They just are not backing down

lmao! They should invade Taiwan then! Let's see what's going happen👿

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 5:33pm On Feb 05, 2023
Taiwan should declare independence and see what happens.
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 5:34pm On Feb 05, 2023
"Little by little we managed to collect 8 million signatures" https://odysee.com/@RTDocumentary:4/Battle-for-Africa:9
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 5:59pm On Feb 05, 2023
Judybash93:


lmao! They should invade Taiwan then! Let's see what's going happen👿
Nothing. It’s not the us war. China can go all out against Taiwan
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 6:24pm On Feb 05, 2023
Americans Call For Biden's Resignation Amid 'spy Balloon' Blunder
https://www.nairaland.com/7555919/americans-call-bidens-resignation-amid
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by wirinet(m): 6:41pm On Feb 05, 2023
FreddieGray:


Your statements are punctuated with contradictions.
You seem confused.
It's very foolish to say America lost the ideological war but won the millitary war because that is a conflicting statement. Why? The Talibans fight based on ideology.

Secondly, a goal of engaging in a millitary conflict is to ensure that the enemy side is neutralized and incapacitated..I.e unable to pose further threat to your country (the US led coalition lost, the govt of Afghanistan is headed by the Talibans)

The Talibans prevailed over the US led coalition due to thier relentless fighting spirit and thier belief (ideology)
So, my dear, ideology is closely related and influential to millitary conflicts.

The US led coalition tried to break the Taliban, they tried for 20 years and they failed miserably!!
In an unsurprising move of betrayal, the US shamelessly abandoned it's allies.
The withdrawal is reminiscent of Saigon (Vietnam), another loss on the US list.
Real life is not Hollywood.
Tbh, your ignorance is not actually my responsibility..you can continue at your failed attempt to distort reality.
The US was defeated by the Taliban..those US soldiers that died in vain, what killed them?


It's you that is confused. You have not yet provided one battle on the field that the US lost to the Taliban. Even when there were less than 8000 US troops guarding Kabul by the time Biden was sworn in, the Taliban dare not attack Kabul.

The objective of the Afghan invasion was not to occupy and rule Afghanistan as a US colony. It was to overthrown the Taliban, install a democratic Afghan government and finally instil US values on its populace. Just like it achieved successfully in Japan after WW2. It failed woefully just as it failed woefully in Iraq. The people whom the US spent hundreds of billion of dollars to train and equip to be able to defend themselves and run a government refused to fight when the Taliban came knocking. They just handed the weapons over without firing a bullet. Now who do you blame for that?

To occupy and subjugate a country as big and mountainous as afghanistan, the US would have needed nothing less than 300,000 soldiers at the cost of trillions of dollars.
This was the same mistake Putin made, when he tried invade Ukraine with only 120,000 soldiers, when military analysts said he would have needed at least 300,000 to stand a chance of success.
A invading a country goes beyond winning battles and territory, you need to have enough troops to hold those territories, else the enemy would re-occupy the territories immediately your soldiers leave to fight in other areas.
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 7:09pm On Feb 05, 2023
wirinet:


It's you that is confused. You have not yet provided one battle on the field that the US lost to the Taliban. Even when there were less than 8000 US troops guarding Kabul by the time Biden was sworn in, the Taliban dare not attack Kabul.

The objective of the Afghan invasion was not to occupy and rule Afghanistan as a US colony. It was to overthrown the Taliban, install a democratic Afghan government and finally instil US values on its populace. Just like it achieved successfully in Japan after WW2. It failed woefully just as it failed woefully in Iraq. The people whom the US spent hundreds of billion of dollars to train and equip to be able to defend themselves and run a government refused to fight when the Taliban came knocking. They just handed the weapons over without firing a bullet. Now who do you blame for that?

To occupy and subjugate a country as big and mountainous as afghanistan, the US would have needed nothing less than 300,000 soldiers at the cost of trillions of dollars.
This was the same mistake Putin made, when he tried invade Ukraine with only 120,000 soldiers, when military analysts said he would have needed at least 300,000 to stand a chance of success.
A invading a country goes beyond winning battles and territory, you need to have enough troops to hold those territories, else the enemy would re-occupy the territories immediately your soldiers leave to fight in other areas.
And I asked you.
What was responsible for the deaths of US soldiers in Afghanistan? (They died in vain)
I told you I'm not responsible for your ignorance.
The US was defeated in Afghanistan in what would be considered to be a colonial war(it's like when the British invaded Nigeria with guns and we had only machete).
The Taliban received little to no international support and they never surrendered.
Over the span of 20 years, the US led coalition tried unsuccessfully to break the fighting spirit of the Taliban.
In WWII, the Nazis won some battles but they didn't win the war.
The Afghanistan ordeal is a millitary and political embarrassment for the US and it's vassals.
Stop confusing yourself.

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by opamoses1: 7:13pm On Feb 05, 2023
FreddieGray:
Americans Republicans Call For Biden's Resignation Amid 'spy Balloon' Blunder
https://www.nairaland.com/7555919/americans-call-bidens-resignation-amid
That was before the Republicans realized the below:

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by generalwo(m): 7:16pm On Feb 05, 2023
vastolord4:


China is only doing to them what they'll do to some other weak country.. do you know the US carry some OPs in most 3rd world countries? There's a reason they're the most hated country
... My own happiness is that the Ballon was shut down... Let chinko do their worst
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by vastolord4(m): 7:18pm On Feb 05, 2023
generalwo:
... My own happiness is that the Ballon was shut down... Let chinko do their worst

They won't cos they've claimed it strayed away.. its the US that should be thinking of doing their worse!
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 7:19pm On Feb 05, 2023
vastolord4:


China is only doing to them what they'll do to some other weak country.. do you know the US carry some OPs in most 3rd world countries? There's a reason they're the most hated country
They're only getting a dose of thier own medicine.
This is merely a slap on the wrist.

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by opamoses1: 7:22pm On Feb 05, 2023
vastolord4:


China is only doing to them what they'll do to some other weak country.. do you know the US carry some OPs in most 3rd world countries? There's a reason they're the most hated country
The only country that hate the USA are terrorists filled countries and terrorists themselves especially the headslammers.

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 7:40pm On Feb 05, 2023
FreddieGray:


Americans Call For Biden's Resignation Amid 'spy Balloon' Blunder


An Air Force F-22 Raptor was scrambled to shoot down an errant Chinese weather balloon over US airspace on Saturday, putting an end to days of drama and confusion as Americans helplessly watched the alleged “spy” craft float aimlessly over the country. Beijing slammed Washington for attacking the “civilian airship.”

Republicans are fuming with the Biden administration’s delayed response to popping China’s weather balloon, with at least one lawmaker calling for the president and vice president to resign in disgrace.

“The catastrophic Chinese Spy Balloon Spectacle clearly threatened American families from Alaska to my home community in South Carolina and confirms President Biden and Vice President Harris should resign,” House Armed Services Committee member Joe Wilson of South Carolina wrote in a multi-part Twitter thread Saturday night.

“My call for their resignation was valid in August 2021 due to the surrender and disastrous withdrawal in Afghanistan, creating a safe haven for terrorists to attack American families,”
Wilson wrote, listing off his outstanding beefs with the Biden administration. “Resignation now is further reinforced as their open border policies have allowed hundreds of identified terrorists into America to commit mass murder, the lawmaker fumed.

A few pro-Biden media personalities rushed to defend the White House, with infamous Russiagater Keith Olbermann calling Wilson an “a**clown” and suggesting the lawmaker should “stop, resign,” and “leave the country.”
However, other lawmakers, even including a few Democrats, similarly piled on Biden over his perceived late response to the incident. The Chinese unmanned airship reportedly entered the US air defense zone off Alaska on January 28, and proceeded east and south, traveling over Idaho and Montana, including over military bases which host US nuclear missile silos.

“Why was this allowed to go clear across the country for so many days? You know, you look at this, national security is one of the biggest things that any country can do. It is a core function of government,” GOP Congressman Russell Fry complained.

Representative Mike Ezell, a Republican on the House Committee on Homeland Security, called the White House’s decision “to allow this Chinese spy balloon to peacefully float across the United States, especially near major military bases…a joke,” and said the US “cannot continue to demonstrate weakness in the face of Chinese aggression.”

Andrew Garbarino, another member of the Homeland Security Committee, also attacked the administration. “Not only was the Homeland Security Committee not informed of this CCP [Chinese Communist Party, ed.] provocation before it broke on the news, but it has since come to light that officials were monitoring the balloon before it entered US airspace and could have been shot down over the water before ever reaching our shores. This was the CCP testing their boundaries and President Biden failed in his response,” Garbarino said.

Senate Arms Services Committee Republican Roger Wicker suggested the balloon’s trip across the US was a “clear” indication “that standard protocol for defense of US airspace was ignored,” and accused Biden of trying to “hide this incident from the American people from the start.”

Hawkish Texas Republican Representative Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, slammed the administration over its “embarrassing display of weakness.”

Congressional Democrats did their best to defend the president, with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer expressing "strong condemnation" of “President Xi [Jinping’s] brazen incursion into American airspace,” and commending Biden’s “leadership in taking down the Chinese balloon over water to ensure safety for all Americans.”

“All of us who serve here spend time and care on national security. It is possible to express concerns about surveillance and other issues without the Chinese Communist Party without trying to create unnecessary panic for political gain,” Democratic Representative Don Beyer of Virginia tweeted.

“All of us who serve here spend time and care on national security. It is possible to express concerns about surveillance and other issues without the Chinese Communist Party without trying to create unnecessary panic for political gain,” Democratic Representative Don Beyer of Virginia tweeted.

However, Montana Senator Jon Tester, a Democrat, joined his GOP colleagues in demanding “real answers” from Biden, dubbing the balloon story “a clear threat” to US national security. “I will be pulling people before my committee to get real answers on how this happened, and how we can prevent it from ever happening again,” he said. Tester is chairman of a Senate defense panel in charge of the Pentagon budget.

Meanwhile, Chinese social media users mocked Americans’ overreaction to the incident, asking why the US was “making a big issue over nothing,” christening the airship “the wandering balloon,” and suggesting “the US should respect" it. “The Lantern Festival is around the corner. The balloon is actually a sky lantern we sent over to wish Americans a happy Lantern Festival,” one user quipped. “Who cares if Antony Blinken will come or not? America always bills itself as No.1 in the world but it got spooked by just a balloon,” another wrote.

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 7:44pm On Feb 05, 2023
One of Nairaland dim witted commentators insinuated that Republicans are not Americans.
I agree to an extent... I see both Democrats and Republicans as illegal occupiers/settlers of Native American territory.
Native Americans are the indigenous people of North America.


FreddieGray:

Canada was colonized by Britain, the indigenous people were oppressed, exposed to genocide and subjugated.
The western colonizers displaced the indigenous population to become the major demographic and the land owners became a minority. The colonizers and their descendants refused to go back Europe.
The inhumane treatment of the indigenous people of Canada continues till this day. They don't even have clean drinking water, they're impoverished by govt created barriers and obstacles.
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by MightySparrow: 7:57pm On Feb 05, 2023
useni1:
After all data have been collected and sent to Beijing. Americans are clowns. The overhyped US. Tranny military won't last 30mins in a war with China.


War! War!! War!!! You a a joker man.

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Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Nobody: 7:59pm On Feb 05, 2023
FreddieGray:
One of Nairaland dim witted commentators insinuated that Republicans are not Americans.
I agree to an extent... I see both Democrats and Republicans as illegal occupiers/settlers of Native American territory.
Native Americans are the indigenous people of North America.


Unlike Nigeria, the indigenous people of Canada never got their independence from Britain and Canada's head of state is the British monarch.
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by Deepthoughts: 8:11pm On Feb 05, 2023
Emu4life:

Most Countries are only allies to US to avoid getting bullied. The United States have but very few true Friends.
They have made so many foes/adversaries because of thier reckless foreign policy of invading weaker sovereign Nations at will.
It's not about religion.
Are Cubans, Venezuelans, Vietnamese etc Muslims??
Did America invaded those countries you listed or is it that you knowledge of world history is poor?
Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by IjeBos(m): 8:15pm On Feb 05, 2023
The more topics like this I read, the more I fear Nigeria really does deserve the government it has.
Too many crazy sounding posters who seemingly fill their time reading the dregs of right wing propaganda from a country thousands of miles away and uncritically swallowing it whole.

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