The biggest to idk for you to take will be marrying someone who is ss since you are too. Just call of the relationship and move on for the sake of the unborn kids.

Omoawoke:
AS v As

You can test the foetus, if SS terminate…

But when analyzing, let’s let at both sides..

What if somehting goes wrong in abortion
What if the pregnancy is twins and one is AA and the other SS

Or what if the testing have a false result as AS, when the baby is actually SS

Many things to analyze

Your questions are based on the level of your inadequate knowledge of modern and advanced medicine. In other words, you are highly uniformed and ignorant

FalseProphet1:
As a highly religious person, I'm extremely offended by this post knowing fully well that there's power in the name of Jesus. Anyways, just send me a message and I'll pray on the pregnancy and your SS baby would become AA.

This I have seen.

werey

IconicR:
Why will you subject somebody's daughter to so much stress when you can easily go your separate ways.

True
The situation at hand does not even proportionately equate the numbers of letters he typed here.

What I think is, he should forget about this genotype thing if he wants a happy marriage.

Marriage is a sacrifice and covenant, you bear the outcome as soon as you reach conviction.

Even if they are both AA, they can born a child with down syndrome, so what the heck?

I suggest, he goes ahead and marry the girl he loves and have convnction in, then, they both face the goodness and challenges in the marriage, if SS is not a challenge, another one will come, he should prepare himself for life and stop being a weakling

Boyooosa:


True
The situation at hand does not even proportionately equate the numbers of letters he typed here.

What I think is, he should forget about this genotype thing if he wants a happy marriage.

Marriage is a sacrifice and covenant, you bear the outcome as soon as you reach conviction.

Even if they are both AA, they can born a child with down syndrome, so what the heck?

I suggest, he goes ahead and marry the girl he loves and have convnction in, then, they both face the goodness and challenges in the marriage, if SS is not a challenge, another one will come, he should prepare himself for life and stop being a weakling

You are saying this because you don't have understanding of what as victims pass through. Why deliberately bring a child to this world to suffer when the situation can completely be avoided? It's selfishness on their own part

It's not easy shall but it is well, since it's 25% then definitely out of 4 tries 3 is on your side expect maths is fraud but Goodluck to you.

Bro frankly speaking I believe you can work with the 25%, my grandparents born 14 children and only 1 of them was SS, it's not easy to move away from 5yrs if relationship, especially when the lady is down to earth, this is me talking from experience, though I and my GF are both AA.

Just have faith that you aren't gonna born SS.

FalseProphet1:
As a highly religious person, I'm extremely offended by this post knowing fully well that there's power in the name of Jesus. Anyways, just send me a message and I'll pray on the pregnancy and your SS baby would become AA.

This I have seen.

I know it's you

Bolt458:
I am not writing this for religious people to come with their funny talks, I am just putting this out here to hear from people who might have tried this methods or who heard about this methods and still proceeded or did not. I want to hear your experience. I have been dating someone for 5 years now, it happened that I began to see her as someone I would want to spend my life with. Last year we did our genotype test and we were both AS. Now , I know some of you will say this should be the first thing you ask when you meet someone but c’mon, would you say people in university that are dating now, would ask their sef that question? That theory is only feasible when you are single and ready to get married and want to start a new relationship, then you can always ask, but we all know some of our relationships started when we no Dey even see marriage in the nearest future, all of a sudden you just see them as the right person and you take the bold step. Now, I had to meet my family doctor here in Canada, I explained to him my current situation and he referred me to a GENETIC COUNSELOR. I am trying to take the necessary steps cause I am not ready to bring in a child with Sickle cell to this world, and I am not leaving anything to faith. A fone appointment was set with the counselor and we spoke at length. She told me that in every foetus, there is a 25% chance that we can get an SS child. Now , how do we mitigate this percentage to the barest minimum I asked as I am not even ready to bring in a sickler to this world. She gave me three options, I would rather say two because the last involves test when the baby comes, and that is out of the question.

Option 1:
A) CVS: They take a sample of the fluid in the womb through her vagina, at 12 weeks to test, if it’s good then fine, if not we have to terminate.

OR

B) At 16 weeks, they take the fluid using a needle directly from her womb, and if it’s SS , they terminate. Both procedures are cover by the government and we don’t need to pay a dime.

Now, she assured me that abortion is a very safe procedure if done properly, and it is even a bigger risk that one can die from a penicillin injection or carrying a pregnancy to term than any harm during an abortion.I know many people would come here and say abortion is this and that but let us be frank to ourselves. If you were told that the child in your womb would have cerebral palsy, or Down syndrome or a neurological disorder, would you still keep that pregnancy? Is there a 100% assurance that two AA people would give birth to a healthy baby? I have come to a realization that pregnancy is just a risk that people take, cus you really don’t know how your child would turn out.


Option 2:
PGD. This is just like IVF, where they would select the genotype before they insert back to the womb. She told me the government doesn’t cover this, and it could cost between $10K- $40k. However she mentioned, just like IVf, it is not guaranteed as it can fail and your money is gone.

I discussed this with my girl in Nigeria and she said she was fine with option 1a. I then asked her, that if the first, second are SS would she still remove it. She accepted. I would not lie to you, this girl is everything I want in a woman. I am not just looking at just love because I know love fades with time, but she is a really nice person, and has a good character. She has always been like this from my days in Nigeria because I was with her before I moved outside. Now after finding out our genotype, I tried to get into a relationship with AA. The first one Dey nigeria, she is a nice person, beautiful, but I just didn’t like her or feel attracted to her. She got tire and we just free ourselves, the second one is here in Canada, I just don’t like this one . Please note, I never slept with any of these ladies because I feel it’s not fair.


Now my question is for those who knew all this and still proceeded, how did it work out for you?

I repeat, don’t come here to tell me about how abortion is this and dat. Cus I know if they tell any of you that your child would be abnormal, 90% of you will go for the abortion

Continuous abortions will take a toll on her psychologically.

SS is not a joke by any means, it is better imagined

Bolt458:
I am not writing this for religious people to come with their funny talks, I am just putting this out here to hear from people who might have tried this methods or who heard about this methods and still proceeded or did not. I want to hear your experience. I have been dating someone for 5 years now, it happened that I began to see her as someone I would want to spend my life with. Last year we did our genotype test and we were both AS. Now , I know some of you will say this should be the first thing you ask when you meet someone but c’mon, would you say people in university that are dating now, would ask their sef that question? That theory is only feasible when you are single and ready to get married and want to start a new relationship, then you can always ask, but we all know some of our relationships started when we no Dey even see marriage in the nearest future, all of a sudden you just see them as the right person and you take the bold step. Now, I had to meet my family doctor here in Canada, I explained to him my current situation and he referred me to a GENETIC COUNSELOR. I am trying to take the necessary steps cause I am not ready to bring in a child with Sickle cell to this world, and I am not leaving anything to faith. A fone appointment was set with the counselor and we spoke at length. She told me that in every foetus, there is a 25% chance that we can get an SS child. Now , how do we mitigate this percentage to the barest minimum I asked as I am not even ready to bring in a sickler to this world. She gave me three options, I would rather say two because the last involves test when the baby comes, and that is out of the question.

Option 1:
A) CVS: They take a sample of the fluid in the womb through her vagina, at 12 weeks to test, if it’s good then fine, if not we have to terminate.

OR

B) At 16 weeks, they take the fluid using a needle directly from her womb, and if it’s SS , they terminate. Both procedures are cover by the government and we don’t need to pay a dime.

Now, she assured me that abortion is a very safe procedure if done properly, and it is even a bigger risk that one can die from a penicillin injection or carrying a pregnancy to term than any harm during an abortion.I know many people would come here and say abortion is this and that but let us be frank to ourselves. If you were told that the child in your womb would have cerebral palsy, or Down syndrome or a neurological disorder, would you still keep that pregnancy? Is there a 100% assurance that two AA people would give birth to a healthy baby? I have come to a realization that pregnancy is just a risk that people take, cus you really don’t know how your child would turn out.


Option 2:
PGD. This is just like IVF, where they would select the genotype before they insert back to the womb. She told me the government doesn’t cover this, and it could cost between $10K- $40k. However she mentioned, just like IVf, it is not guaranteed as it can fail and your money is gone.

I discussed this with my girl in Nigeria and she said she was fine with option 1a. I then asked her, that if the first, second are SS would she still remove it. She accepted. I would not lie to you, this girl is everything I want in a woman. I am not just looking at just love because I know love fades with time, but she is a really nice person, and has a good character. She has always been like this from my days in Nigeria because I was with her before I moved outside. Now after finding out our genotype, I tried to get into a relationship with AA. The first one Dey nigeria, she is a nice person, beautiful, but I just didn’t like her or feel attracted to her. She got tire and we just free ourselves, the second one is here in Canada, I just don’t like this one . Please note, I never slept with any of these ladies because I feel it’s not fair.


Now my question is for those who knew all this and still proceeded, how did it work out for you?

I repeat, don’t come here to tell me about how abortion is this and dat. Cus I know if they tell any of you that your child would be abnormal, 90% of you will go for the abortion

You left out the best option, though a bit expensive. Preimplantation Genetic Diagnosis (PGD) is an alternative method of testing in those couples who don't want to undergo Prenatal diagnosis and termination of pregnancy due to personal and religious reasons if the baby is found to have sickle cell disease.

Bolt458:
on top everything, na dat one u pick. Envy just full pple mind. I argue say you Dey come here come shop. You seem like d kinda person who would see your friend succeed and would be angry

Angry over someone success? I know how many friends I helped coming down to Canada then. I don't hesitate to help people out.

We don go school (southern Alberta institute of technology calgary (SAIT) for Canada over 10yrs ago, come back and set up big things here.

Once again, let me sound it as a warning to you and your woman, don't take life of another. If you can't live without her, go ahead and marry her character but don't pregnant her to avoid SS. Adopt children. Don't bring a child or children that will make you depress.

1Sharon:


You're the same people that lynch a thief for stealing a phone or a necklace.

How can you be so fixated and care about lives that aren't even born but ignore the ones that are already here?

Stop putting on the front that you care about human lives. Because Nigerians generally do not. Human lives are cheap in Nigeria.

Even if I don't support criminality,All lives matters. Whether in the womb or born.

Lynching a thief no concern me. If you never fall a victim then you will never rethink your style about them. If a thief break into your family house rape you, your daughter and in the process of your husband trying to protect his family, he was shot dead. If this thief was later caught and handed over to you, what would you do to him?

What will I gain to see another man being killed? Will it add more to my lifespan?

I stand against abortion totally.

searchlight:
Life is not spiritual and God doesn't exist. Stop deceiving yourself

God do exist.

I understand that you feel like she's the only person you can ever get along so well with, but here nature says no and if you insist on this journey, there is alot of things in this field that is yet to be discovered by scientists so I just think you should know that you can never solve the problem that comes with this.
This is one of the highest form of discipline, ability to see beyond just two of you.
The two options should be considered only on condition that you were not aware not when you are aware of the consequences before jumping into
Put a stop to it, and I promise you that both of you will find someone else to spend the rest of your lives with, much happier and healthier at long run.

IconicR:
You are saying this because you don't have understanding of what as victims pass through. Why deliberately bring a child to this world to suffer when the situation can completely be avoided? It's selfishness on their own part

Had it been u read the comment I reacted to, u will know that the best thing is to walk out of the relationship instead of giving unnecessary conditions in a marital relationship

What of if u apply method 1, and all u get is SS or even method 2 that involves cost in dollars?

Baba, u can't continue to be terminating babies' lives in guise of searching for AA or AS, it's life, face it

remiopash:
Why will she subject somebody's son to so much stress when they can easily go their separate ways? It takes two to tangle. I am sure they are both aware of the consequences of their decisions.

the babe did not force him, it is d guy that is actually pressuring the babe to marry him and even ordering her to terminate every pregnancy that results in SS

Bolt458:


Option 1:
A) CVS: They take a sample of the fluid in the womb through her vagina, at 12 weeks to test, if it’s good then fine, if not we have to terminate.

OR

B) At 16 weeks, they take the fluid using a needle directly from her womb, and if it’s SS , they terminate. Both procedures are cover by the government and we don’t need to pay a dime.

Now, she assured me that abortion is a very safe procedure if done properly, and it is even a bigger risk that one can die from a penicillin injection or carrying a pregnancy to term than any harm during an abortion.

I discussed this with my girl in Nigeria and she said she was fine with option 1a. I then asked her, that if the first, second are SS would she still remove it. She accepted. I would not lie to you, this girl is everything I want in a woman. I am not just looking at just love because I know love fades with time, but she is a really nice person, and has a good character. She has always been like this from my days in Nigeria because I was with her before I moved outside. Now after finding out our genotype, I tried to get into a relationship with AA. The first one Dey nigeria, she is a nice person, beautiful, but I just didn’t like her or feel attracted to her. She got tire and we just free ourselves, the second one is here in Canada, I just don’t like this one . Please note, I never slept with any of these ladies because I feel it’s not fair.


Now my question is for those who knew all this and still proceeded, how did it work out for you?

I repeat, don’t come here to tell me about how abortion is this and dat. Cus I know if they tell any of you that your child would be abnormal, 90% of you will go for the abortion

My dear, the counselor is deceiving you. Abortion is more of emotional wound than physical. I was in your shoe years ago and made enquiry. A lady narrated how she aborted 4 pregnancies in a search for AA or AS and lamented bitterly that the love she had for the husband was not worth it at all. According to her, some times she sees her husband, she imagined the four dead kids around. And the knowledge she is always the one being subjected to the procedure made her to start building hatred for the guy. The emotional toture became so unbearable that she simply file for divorce.

The counselor is being unreasonable, pregnancy results to a new born and people are excited with new thing which usually dilute the pain. The scientific discovery of AA AS issue is to guide you make an informed decision. I made other enquiries and decided to let her go. Now both of us are happyly married to our respective spouses.

I wish you the best.

I am really touched to see that your lady accepted such options just to be with you, she really loves you, don't leave her. Now this is what to do.

I have seen a woman who is AS and her husband AS, they have 4 children and none is SS. The children were conceived naturally, though they claim it was prayers.
There is a possibility for you and your wife to have AS children.

You and wife should have your first child naturally, just be hopeful, that it will be an AS baby. Conceive the second child naturally as well, and accept whatever comes out of it, then if you need a third baby go for the 2nd option (the PGD). As long as you and wife are AS, you have chances of having AS children, so combine natural birth with the 2nd option. Be positive.

Quenncee:




Angry over someone success? I know how many friends I helped coming down to Canada then. I don't hesitate to help people out.

We don go school (southern Alberta institute of technology calgary (SAIT) for Canada over 10yrs ago, come back and set up big things here.

Once again, let me sound it as a warning to you and your woman, don't take life of another. If you can't live without her, go ahead and marry her character but don't pregnant her to avoid SS. Adopt children. Don't bring a child or children that will make you depress.

get away. You Dey warn me like say na me and u go bear any consequence. Crazy person

Workch:
Bro, abort the baby if it's SS. Simple

I don't see any issue here

There is no any sin here,it is when u bring an SS to the world to suffer that you have committed a great sin against the child,and beside this, you are not paying a dime, government policies cover this

Easy life.......

Bolt458

You can go for it IF you know you are fully committed to bear the cost. I know someone that is in the same situation, AS and SC and they are going ahead with the relationship.

Everything is on the table including bone marrow surgery.


***Please note this is happening because BOTH partners/Family have the financial capacity to go through these alternatives..

1Sharon:


What a zoo Nigeria is.

They condemned the child to hell.

They couldn't give pain relief to a sick child seriously??

Needless to say,the child's doc excused himself to be elsewhere and never returned. You can expect that from them 100%.

iLoveYouToo:

This is lame

Lame as your Papa.

Actually i have been in ur situation and i vividly know how it feels, the anxiety and people talkns. But thank God i got a traditional medicine to be taken for 3months, after taking it correctly then u go and do test again and by Gods grave the genotype changes to
AA . But person must avoid eating meat, groundnut oil, milk and youghout for that period of 3months. One can eat only chicken, fish and palm oil and also u can use olive oil.

I know many people would say its not possible. But from our religious faith any disease in this world God has provided its medicine. And also there are testimonies of people that used the medicine and the results is positive. The medicine is gotten in one remote village called saye Bichi LGA Kano.

Well, my own personal experience is that we dated for 11 years, married for 2 years now, both AS and we don’t even talk about having kids 😂 she’s a wonderful person, I don’t think I can be with anyone else. So I’ll advice you go for the person you believe in, life is a risk, there are no guarantees. I wish you luck.

[quote author=searchlight post=124321256]Life is not spiritual and God doesn't exist. Stop deceiving yourself [/quote
Your Monica is searchlight, yet you are in darkness. My Bible says a fool says there is no God.
Even this your fake life is still spiritual (under satanic control)

OP asked experienced people to advice but i didn't read any so far.

Well OP i have seen this ur situation in a nollywood movie - the couple were advised not to get married, they eventually did when the doctor told them about that ur option 1a.

So they started to flush and flush and flush. The lady got sad, depressed and all and i think they eventually went their separate ways after some years.

It would seem a very difficult decision but it's still d best even given the level of advancement in technology.

kelechiodo:


My dear, the counselor is deceiving you. Abortion is more of emotional wound than physical. I was in your shoe years ago and made enquiry. A lady narrated how she aborted 4 pregnancies in a search for AA or AS and lamented bitterly that the love she had for the husband was not worth it at all. According to her, some times she sees her husband, she imagined the four dead kids around. And the knowledge she is always the one being subjected to the procedure made her to start building hatred for the guy. The emotional toture became so unbearable that she simply file for divorce.

The counselor is being unreasonable, pregnancy results to a new born and people are excited with new thing which usually dilute the pain. The scientific discovery of AA AS issue is to guide you make an informed decision. I made other enquiries and decided to let her go. Now both of us are happyly married to our respective spouses.

I wish you the best.

Well said

Voldoz:
It's not easy shall but it is well, since it's 25% then definitely out of 4 tries 3 is on your side expect maths is fraud but Goodluck to you.

25% is 1/4, not 3/4

My son, marriage is a life-long commitment and matured minds consider who will give them peace of mind all the way. It seems this lady is the one you have made up your mind to get down with; go ahead.

In seeking your own peace of mind, don't birth children who will be in pains because their sorrow will reduce your own peace. Knowing what is at stake, save MONEY for two or three PGD procedures and live happily ever after with your family. Don't listen to negative people who'll tell you it will keep failing? How na? In Canada fa? Mtchew!

Both of you should never forget how you started. Keep the fire of love burning with a touch of understanding and you'll be fine.

Two wrongs don't make a right, you didn't really need to reply that writer

But if you ask me, this issue is a very light one considering your status. IVF isn't more than 2 million plus in Nigeria which I'm sure you can easily afford compared to that huge amount in Canada and your babe is still here in the country. Marry her here first, go for IVF option at least once and have one child or two before you arrange her papers and that of your kid/kids to join you in Canada. Simple

I'd rather marry someone whom I can peacefully live the rest of my life with irrespective of genotype [even if it means we would not have children] than marrying a demon in human flesh

Bolt458:
weyre. People Dey ur back yard Dey do am like nothing. People you know . You are not serious.

FalseProphet1:
As a highly religious person, I'm extremely offended by this post knowing fully well that there's power in the name of Jesus. Anyways, just send me a message and I'll pray on the pregnancy and your SS baby would become AA.

This I have seen.

shen gbo miracle worker

maasoap:


Your questions are based on the level of your inadequate knowledge of modern and advanced medicine. In other words, you are highly uniformed and ignorant

Pls could you give an answer to the questions I asked. I’d appreciate