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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by IJEYdiamond(f): 1:43pm On May 31
Sapasenator:
Trump has been a known criminal for decades and has only been evading justice because of his influence, money and connections.


Thank uuuuuuu.... a black man for done rot in jail since.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Golan007: 1:44pm On May 31
obailala:
Jurors and Judges and prosecutors are humans not gods. Humans have feelings, emotions, sentiments, greed etc.

Same for the convict.

Based on the abundance of evidence, the convict was penalised.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DaddyCoool: 1:44pm On May 31
MT:


No. His lawayers never said what i said.

His lawyers never conceded that he slept with the woman.

The prosecution proved the case beyond reasonable doubt, corroborating all their evidences and showing both audio and paper trail.

Yes, Trump's lawyers kept arguing that he (Trump) did not know about the payment but Trump himself signed all the cheques. Even Cohen recorded Trump while speaking about the Stormy Daniel payment where Trump mentioned the amount involved. The jurors listened to this audio and it beggars belief that Trump would be arguing not to know about the payment still.

Cohen was a liar. Fact but he knew where they all buried the bodies. He testified and his facts were well corroborated by other witnesses.

Let me ask, have you seen Melania speak in all this? Simply because she believed Trump did it and Trump embarrassed her by cheating on her during the post partum period.

Leave emotion aside, Trump was as guilty as charged and those jurors were highly educated, including 2 lawyers.

YES THEY DID!! I followed the trial for only one day. It turned out to be the day they were arguing that, even if he paid, it was to avoid embarrassing his family, not because of election.

Look, in this kind of case, a good lawyer focuses on arguments like you. But a great lawyer focuses ENTIRELY on the jurors and jury selection!
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Golan007: 1:45pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


YES THEY DID!! I followed the trial for only one day. It turned out to be the day they were arguing that, even if he paid, it was to avoid embarrassing his family, not because of election.

Look, in this kind of case, a good lawyer focuses on arguments like you. But a great lawyer focuses ENTIRELY on juries abd jury selection!

Why did Cohen go to jail?
grin
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DaddyCoool: 1:46pm On May 31
Golan007:


Why did Cohen go to jail?
grin
Meaning what?
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DMerciful(m): 1:47pm On May 31
When he won 2016 nko?

Are you happy you stood with Tinubu?
AnambraPikinSel:


You did last election and you fell with himgrin
You stood with Peter Obi last year and you fell with him. You're known to be standing with those who won't win.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Golan007: 1:47pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:

Meaning what?

Cohen, his lawyer, and main prosecution witness was jailed years ago, all relating to this case.

What was his crime?
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DMerciful(m): 1:48pm On May 31
34 counts on a single felony? What a joke!
Jaycee07:


You are are liberty to support whoever you choose to. But I find it incredulous and laughable when you say that it was a contrived and sham trial.
I’m wondering whether you understand the meaning of those words.
For a former president to be convicted of all 34 counts felony charges…. Uhmmmmm.
This is a public space. I’m sure a lot of folks here either followed or watched the trials. It just might be helpful to read and think before relating your opinion to public space.
Not even one of the jurors dissented on all 34 counts after painstaking deliberations, then Trump is guilty as charged and for now is a convicted felon. The only hope he has is if he wins the upcoming presidential elections.
We will see whether or not his conviction will tip balance in terms of his approval rating!
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by AnambraPikinSel: 1:50pm On May 31
DMerciful:
When he won 2016 nko?

Are you happy you stop with Tinubu?


I've gave 2 people you stood and fell with
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DaddyCoool: 1:51pm On May 31
Golan007:


Cohen, his lawyer, and main prosecution witness was jailed years ago, all relating to this case.

What was his crime?

Not all relating to this case. Cohen lied to congress and everybody. He was a serial liar. But he played a tape in court, of Trump conspiring with him to pay Stormy

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by MT: 1:52pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


YES THEY DID!! I followed the trial for only one day. It turned out to be the day they were arguing that, even if he paid, it was to avoid embarrassing his family, not because of election.

Look, in this kind of case, a good lawyer focuses on arguments like you. But a great lawyer focuses ENTIRELY on the jurors and jury selection!

Maybe you were NOT well focused on the case when you were watching it. Read the 3rd paragraph:
https://apnews.com/article/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-trial-takeaways-f34f094124fc7ec455d6a73cbb6eec21

Trump NEVER agreed that he slept with Stormy Daniel and that was the narrative that his lawyers were pushing before the Jury?

Are you implying that you are smarter than Blanche (Trump's lawyers) in jury selection ?

Do you know the assets deployed by Trump's lawyers and prosecutors to select jurors?

Facts are facts. Stop blaming the defence lawyer, Trump's case is so bad.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DMerciful(m): 1:55pm On May 31
Obi won 2023 but the corrupt establishment rigged him out because they're afraid of what he'll do to their corruption.

In 2027, it will be repeated with a wide margin and those structures of criminality will pay for their criminalities
AnambraPikinSel:



I've gave 2 people you stood and fell with

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by MT: 1:56pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


Not all relating to this case. Cohen lied to congress and everybody. He was a serial liar. But he played a tape in court, of Trump conspiring with him to pay Stormy

This was what Trump saw in him before he hired him.

Trump was looking for a serial liar to cover his shoddy tracks and he found it in Cohen.

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DaddyCoool: 1:58pm On May 31
Jaycee07:


We will see whether or not his conviction will tip balance in terms of his approval rating!

You don't have to wait. See below

Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by MT: 2:02pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


You don't have to wait. See below

How does this relate to approval rating? grin grin

Biden too is fund raising, you dont know?

Please note that Biden has way more fund than convicted felon Trump to spend on campaign.

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DaddyCoool: 2:02pm On May 31
MT:


Maybe you were NOT well focused on the case when you were watching it. Read the 3rd paragraph:
https://apnews.com/article/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-trial-takeaways-f34f094124fc7ec455d6a73cbb6eec21

Trump NEVER agreed that he slept with Stormy Daniel and that was the narrative that his lawyers were pushing before the Jury?

Are you implying that you are smarter than Blanche (Trump's lawyers) in jury selection ?

Do you know the assets deployed by Trump's lawyers and prosecutors to select jurors?

Facts are facts. Stop blaming the defence lawyer, Trump's case is so bad.

You don't understand. Sleeping with her is not a crime. Neither is paying her to keep quiet. The crime was election tampering and falsely reporting the payment as legal fees

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by TallDarkMan: 2:03pm On May 31
"Hur’s report says no criminal charges are warranted against Biden. It says his office considered charging Zwonitzer with obstruction of justice because the ghostwriter destroyed recordings of interviews he conducted with Biden while they worked on his second memoir together once he learned of the documents investigation. But Hur also said Zwonitzer offered “plausible, innocent reasons” for having done so and cooperated with investigators subsequently, meaning the evidence against him was likely “insufficient to obtain a conviction.”

Hours after the report was released, Biden addressed reporters at the White House and spoke to what he shared with Zwonitzer, saying, “I did not share classified information” adding he didn’t do so “with my ghostwriter. Guarantee you I did not.”
- copied from APnews
basilico:


Liar . He read some docs out to his biographer in 2017 informing him they were classified. His son is reasonably suspected of using a classified document in 2015 to his business partners. Search for Biden transcript with his biographer who deleted the tape recording as soon as Trump was indicted
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DaddyCoool: 2:03pm On May 31
MT:


This was what Trump saw in him before he hired him.

Trump was looking for a serial liar to cover his shoddy tracks and he found it in Cohen.

What has this to do with the discussion?
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DaddyCoool: 2:06pm On May 31
MT:


How does this relate to approval rating? grin grin

Biden too is fund raising, you dont know? And Biden has way more fund than convicted felon Trump to spend on campaign?

It is human beings flooding in the donations - voting with their cash. That’s the real measure of approval rating
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by MT: 2:06pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


What has this to do with the discussion?

Let me explain what it means.

Trump's attorney was trying hard to discredit Cohen as a serial liar before the jury.

And the Prosecution was saying - this was established before Trump hired him. That was the qualification for him to get his job. So no big deal there.

You cant say the jury should not consider his (Cohen's) testimony entirely especially when it was corroborated by others and paper as well as audio trail.

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by MT: 2:07pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


It is human beings flooding in the donations - voting with their cash. That’s the real measure of approval rating

No. His base was just energized.

You should be concerned about what the independents and the educated folks make of this

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Somilat: 2:07pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


Not all relating to this case. Cohen lied to congress and everybody. He was a serial liar. But he played a tape in court, of Trump conspiring with him to pay Stormy
So he wasn't as dumb as he sounded. He took measures in case he was backstabbed.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by ogmask: 2:08pm On May 31
GlorifiedTunde:
Trump!



Trust me when I say that USA is a glorified Nigeria "politically"

We'll see how events unfold!

The first and maybe the only sensible post on page 1.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by ogmask: 2:10pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


Not all relating to this case. Cohen lied to congress and everybody. He was a serial liar. But he played a tape in court, of Trump conspiring with him to pay Stormy

That in its own is debatable , however, trump did nothing wrong in the real sense. They were out for him from the word go. Hilary and even Bill did worse.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by MT: 2:10pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


You don't understand. Sleeping with her is not a crime. Neither is paying her to keep quiet. The crime was election tampering and falsely reporting the payment as legal fees

You just changed your narrative.

You claimed to have followed the proceeding where his lawyer AGREED that Trump slept with Stormy Daniel.

Do not be like or act like Trump - be straight forward.

Do you know how many of Trump's associates are in prison as at now?

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Golan007: 2:11pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


Not all relating to this case. Cohen lied to congress and everybody. He was a serial liar. But he played a tape in court, of Trump conspiring with him to pay Stormy

Cohen was sentenced to prison in December 2018 after pleading guilty to campaign finance charges and lying to Congress, among other crimes. In all, he spent about 13 1/2 months behind prison walls and a year and a half in home confinement. His time was further reduced through good behavior.

The campaign finance charges came after he helped arrange payouts during the 2016 presidential race to keep the porn actor Stormy Daniels and model Karen McDougal from making public claims of extramarital affairs with Trump. Trump has denied the affairs.

He implicated Trump at the time in the campaign finance charges, as he did again on Monday when he said that his release from home confinement “in no way negates the actions I took at the direction of and for the benefit of Donald J. Trump.”


https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-crime-new-york-manhattan-campaigns-3a0413202e80ab99c9f6377f97d07c04
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DaddyCoool: 2:11pm On May 31
MT:


Are you implying that you are smarter than Blanche (Trump's lawyers) in jury selection ?

Do you know the assets deployed by Trump's lawyers and prosecutors to select jurors?

Facts are facts. Stop blaming the defence lawyer, Trump's case is so bad.

My friend they were playing it straight and clean, aiming to win by arguments, and probably believing how everyone was saying there was no crime.
In this type of case you don't play clean and straight. Trump knew that too but was probably distracted
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by MT: 2:12pm On May 31
ogmask:


That in its own is debatable , however, trump did nothing wrong in the real sense. They were out for him from the word go. Hilary and even Bill did worse.

Are you saying:

1. Trump did not make payment to Stormy Daniel to suppress the story getting out?

2. Are you claiming Trump did not direct Cohen to pay Stormy Daniel on hiis behalf?

3. Are you saying Trump was unaware of the payment made to Stormy Daniel?

4. Are you saying Trump did not sign all the cheques for Cohen's reimbursements?

This is a white collar crime - the paper and audio trail are out there for people to see

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by MT: 2:14pm On May 31
DaddyCoool:


My friend they were playing it straight and clean, aiming to win by arguments, and probably believing how everyone was saying there was no crime.
In this type of case you don't play clean and straight. Trump knew that too but was probably distracted

Next time, apply to be Trump's attorney.

You can still overturn this with your flawed legal expertise at the appellate court.

And while you are at that, educate yourself about the jury selection process in the US.

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Golan007: 2:14pm On May 31
DMerciful:
Obi won 2023 but the corrupt establishment rigged him out because they're afraid of what he'll do to their corruption.

In 2027, it will be repeated with a wide margin and those structures of criminality will pay for their criminalities

Even Obi is laughing at you.

Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by t2luv1: 2:14pm On May 31
emmanbol:


It is total boosheet. Trump support just grow very stronger. Itnis a political witch hunt by biden and #dems.

Trump will win again by November.

He ain't gonna win partner that I can assure you. Take off the blinders you will see that even the Republican legislators are against him but they are just afraid of Trump Yahoo supporters. I have been in the USA for over 35 years I can tell you one thing I have learned from my time while leaving and going to school in Chicago Smart Mobsters always put politicians in their pockets. They are all smart enough not to be politicians.

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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by ogmask: 2:14pm On May 31
adioolayi:
Hmmm..

Trump going to jail or getting a fine

If this happens to be Nigeria or Africa, we will not give deserving kudos to the judiciary, rather, we will definitely say it's a well planned attack on opposition by the sitting President, so that the his closest challenger will not be on the ballot.

Anyways, let's see if Trump will still be on the ballot or it's end of the road for him

Ofcos, the American judiciary is corrupt. I followed this case and I wept for the world. If this can happen in America then there's no hope for the free world.
First, they tried to cease his properties in New York, next they brought up the classified document case. When that didn't work they went thru Georgia to say he wanted to steal an election. The moment the fraud of a DA was exposed they activated a dead hush money case. If you follow the trail you will weep for America. The MSM is the worse. CNN and MSNBC especially. Thank God some of their die hard trump haters have started saying the trial was rigged.

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