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Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by Algold: 2:01pm On Jun 03
helinues:
You are not being realistic with your N474k demand. If Labour union table N100k, FG would negotiate to what they, state and Private sectors can pay

Make una be reasonable for once

Shey you dey follow up with the meetings at all
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by EnterpriseMan(m): 2:10pm On Jun 03
EnglishUsa:
Where will the federal criminals bring such amount of money you are requesting to pay you salaries? Maybe you want them to borrow from Nigel to you pay such amount
The same place he get billions for his travel visits. The same place he gets billions to renovate offices. The same place he gets billions to buy SUV yearly for his ministers.
The same place he borrowed billions of dollars for the so called supporting the Naira in the Foreign exchange so naira will rise and it amounted to nothing. The same place he gets billions to waste on his goons.
If he has the money to do that then he should have the money to pay workers. You lead by example.
The first thing he did immediately he entered office was to double the salary or the lawmakers and ministers.
Let him find the money we don't care.
Where is the billions he said he will get from the subsidy removal?
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by bixton(m): 2:44pm On Jun 03
triplechoice:


The question is, will the government be able to afford the cost of sacking 70% of those in the civil service?

The public service is not like the private sector where it's easy to hire and fire as you like.Civil servants are under contract with the government .So for you to sack them ,you will have to pay huge compensation which will amount to what you will use for paying them for about 5 years or more.

Definitely the government will have to downsize but they also do not need to do such thing. They only need to deploy the civil servants to where the work to do it and not keep them muddled together in a place where no work is and many can be re-assigned to other ministries/parastals/agencies/commissions that generate revenue and grow it. There's so much the/any government can(should) do to grow the economy and grow the knowledge base of the country of civil servant.
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by EnglishUsa: 3:08pm On Jun 03
EnterpriseMan:

The same place he get billions for his travel visits. The same place he gets billions to renovate offices. The same place he gets billions to buy SUV yearly for his ministers.
The same place he borrowed billions of dollars for the so called supporting the Naira in tye Foreign exchange so naira will rise and it amounted to nothing. The same place he gets billions to waste on his goons.
If he has the money to do that then he should have the money to pay teachers. You lead my example.
The first thing he did immediately he entered office was to double the salary or the lawmakers and ministers.
Let him find the money we don't care.
Where his the billions he said he will get from the subsidy removal?
subsidy is gone! Subsidy is gone!! Subsidy is gone!! I will float naira. Hahaha, the jagaban of balablue... He thought Nigeria is Lagos state
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by charlizonto: 4:17pm On Jun 03
FG's brown envelope did not work this time grin
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by CharleyBright(m): 5:11pm On Jun 03
triplechoice:


The 498k minimum wage by labour is just a proposal . Let the government come up with something reasonable, not 60k, and see if labour will reject it before you start condemning them.

During the last minimum wage negotiations with Buhari government, labour also did the same thing they're doing now by coming up with figure the government rejected until an agreement for 30k was reached. So history is repeating itself.

As for your claim that a food seller will pay her saies girl minimum wage, it's not true. Those category of workers are exempted from receiving minimum wage in Nigeria. Google the minimum wage act of March 2019 to know those in the private sector that pay minimum wage. . Less than 1% pay minimum wage in the private sector in Nigeria.

Minimum wage is mostly enjoyed by civil servants.

Can you hear yourself?
You are bold enough to say minimum wage is not for food sellers or pepper sellers or people on the street, it is for civil servants., abi?
Very selfish opinion. And thats how most of you civil servant reason.
When govt removed subsidy, it affected civil servant only abi? The hard economy is biting ou civil servants alone abi?
When we talk about minimum wage, is it not called National Minimum wage? When u talk about National, is it only Civil Servants ??
I hate this mentality and angle of your argument.
If govt give una 70k, make una no accept, the govt should arrest all of your selfish and greedy bunch.
Nonsense!!!
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by armo: 6:53pm On Jun 03
triplechoice:


The question is, will the government be able to afford the cost of sacking 70% of those in the civil service?

The public service is not like the private sector where it's easy to hire and fire as you like.Civil servants are under contract with the government .So for you to sack them ,you will have to pay huge compensation which will amount to what you will use for paying them for about 5 years or more.

Ah well, if there is the political will, there is a way, perhaps the civil service laws should be updated to allow it be more agile and let it run like the private sector. As to the cost, it will be expensive but we are already incurring that expense on a yearly basis with not much to show for it.
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by ItswellMike: 8:31pm On Jun 03
helinues:
You are not being realistic with your N474k demand. If Labour union table N100k, FG would negotiate to what they, state and Private sectors can pay

Make una be reasonable for once
Akuya
When ur useless president removed subsidy, increased electricity tariff and floating of the Naira without providing succour for Nigerian masses. .... Collect am MUMU

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Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by luluman: 9:59pm On Jun 03
helinues:
You are not being realistic with your N474k demand. If Labour union table N100k, FG would negotiate to what they, state and Private sectors can pay

Make una be reasonable for once
By their comments you know them; APC rats.
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by triplechoice(m): 10:42pm On Jun 03
armo:


Ah well, if there is the political will, there is a way, perhaps the civil service laws should be updated to allow it be more agile and let it run like the private sector. As to the cost, it will be expensive but we are already incurring that expense on a yearly basis with not much to show for it.

About from the cost, there are other reasons they won't sack them.

Most of the civil servants you want sacked got the job,not necessarily by merit, but through political connections. They know someone who knows someone that knows the governor, or are card carrying member of the party in power and because of that employed.

Moreover a lot of them are giving the government job so they can be instructed to vote for the government in power during elections:. We gave you the job. So, you must vote for us.

The real civil servants are very few and most where employed when things were not as bad as they're now.
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by triplechoice(m): 10:52pm On Jun 03
CharleyBright:


Can you hear yourself?
You are bold enough to say minimum wage is not for food sellers or pepper sellers or people on the street, it is for civil servants., abi?
Very selfish opinion. And thats how most of you civil servant reason.
When govt removed subsidy, it affected civil servant only abi? The hard economy is biting ou civil servants alone abi?
When we talk about minimum wage, is it not called National Minimum wage? When u talk about National, is it only Civil Servants ??
I hate this mentality and angle of your argument.
If govt give una 70k, make una no accept, the govt should arrest all of your selfish and greedy bunch.
Nonsense!!!

It's not my opinion please. It's what's stated in the minimum wage act I just communicated to you. Direct your anger to those who came up with the unjust law. I never mentioned that I like it that way or announced to you I'm a civil servants. Just free me

Google the minimum wage act of March 2019 signed by Buhari for confirmation of those who are qualified to receive minimum wage in Nigeria.
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by triplechoice(m): 10:55pm On Jun 03
bixton:


Definitely the government will have to downsize but they also do not need to do such thing. They only need to deploy the civil servants to where the work to do it and not keep them muddled together in a place where no work is and many can be re-assigned to other ministries/parastals/agencies/commissions that generate revenue and grow it. There's so much the/any government can(should) do to grow the economy and grow the knowledge base of the country of civil servant.

Very good suggestions. Some governors have been doing that, but others don't care.

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Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by Omenapounds: 6:58pm On Jun 09
CharleyBright:


Mumu talk from selfish civil servants who arent adding much value to the nation.

I hate Tinubu govt with a passion, but that doesn't mean we must speak the truth on National issues.
498k minimum wage that Labour is demanding is far too outrageous and unrealistic. Labour Union and civil servants should stop these nonsense and face reality. Do they want to cause hyper inflation by demanding over 1000% percent pay rise? How can they request minimum wage be increased 15 times what it is presently. They are not talking of double or triple, they are demanding over 10x . What happens if prices of goods goes up even 3 times what they are now as a result of their demand?
Can Joe Ajaero pay his gate man 498k monthly?
Let him start by doing that, so we know it is feasible.

You that is shouting 498k minimum wage or strike continues, I am sure you are a civil servant and u say so because u intend to benefit.

But let put your foolishness on the table for u. Do you realize the economic implication of 498k minimum wage? That will imply the least anyone will pay a worker is 498k monthly. As a civil servant, in the restaurant u got to eat lunch how much is a plate of food presently? N2500 or 3000.
The woman that owns the restaurant pays her workers 30k and sells her food 2500. If she has pay her work 15 times more to pay that 480k monthly, how much will a food of plate cost? Or you think, you will force her to pay 480k minimum wage and she will still sell her food N2500 Better wake up.
You will be buy a plate of food, 2500 x 15. Meaning she will sell her food nothing less than N30,000 a plate. Make civil servants tell me if they will afford to eat lunch. Same will happen with the pepper and garri seller as they will hike their prices. Same with your landlord. Same with transport fares. By end of the day, the 480k will become worthless and the demand has already caused unnecessary harm to the economy with hyper inflation.

FG should pay N90,000 minimum wage. That will be 300% increment.. If Labour don't accept 90k, they should be arrested. Arrest Joe Ejaero and Osifo and others. They can't hold the country down with unnecessary and unrealistic demands.
We are talking about minimum wage for federal government employees and you're bringing restaurants into it.
Are you listening to yourself
Re: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by CharleyBright(m): 10:02pm On Jun 09
Omenapounds:

We are talking about minimum wage for federal government employees and you're bringing restaurants into it.
Are you listening to yourself

Here is another dumbass.
What do you call minimum wage?
Isnt all these talk about minimum wage for Nigerian workers?
Are restaurant workers not Nigerian workers? Are private school teachers not Nigerian workers?
The minimum wage Negotiations is for workers in the Public Sector, in the Private sector and the informal sector. The workers in restaurant or the bookstore or electronic shop are all in the informal sectors, the minimum wage Negotiations covers them too.
The committee on minimum wage are taking into consideration all these workers. That is why the representatives of the informal sector say they can not afford to pay 60k minimum wage.
Some of you dumbass on Nairaland just come up to yarn nonsense about what you don't have any understanding about while pretending to know.
Am sure u are a govt worker and as usual with most of you selfishly thinking the minimum wage discussion should be all about govt workers not minding how it will affect informal sector workers.
Nonsense.

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