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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 8:56pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: You have a servant's heart! |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 8:56pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: Ha. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 8:58pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: Good boy! |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 8:59pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: Because I cannot tolerate people calling me a murderer |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:00pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: Mods, check this guy out. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:02pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: My goodness. So if you listen to a ferret, no wonder you think I am a murderer |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:04pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: Wow, and am sure not many five year olds go round calling people murderers |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:05pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: Short and stout |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:09pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: You obviously don't want to be humble |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:10pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: Hmm, no wonder you think I am a murderer |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:10pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: Hmm, I see. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:11pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: Hmm, so that's why you think I am a murderer |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:13pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: If you take no risks, you will suffer no defeats. But if you take no risks, you win no victories. Richard M. Nixon |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:14pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: I am doing this because no one taught you that there are consequences for every action. SO, until I see an apology for calling me a murderer, you better man up, buttercup. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:15pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: Surround yourself with the best people you can find, delegate authority, and don't interfere as long as the policy you've decided upon is being carried out. Ronald Reagan |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 9:16pm On Jul 23 |
DeepsightX: We are marching in a compact group along a precipitous and difficult path, firmly holding each other by the hand. We are surrounded on all sides by enemies, and we have to advance almost constantly under their fire. We have combined, by a freely adopted decision, for the purpose of fighting the enemy, and not of retreating into the neighbouring marsh, the inhabitants of which, from the very outset, have reproached us with having separated ourselves into an exclusive group and with having chosen the path of struggle instead of the path of conciliation. And now some among us begin to cry out: Let us go into the marsh! And when we begin to shame them, they retort: What backward people you are! Are you not ashamed to deny us the liberty to invite you to take a better road! Oh, yes, gentlemen! You are free not only to invite us, but to go yourselves wherever you will, even into the marsh. In fact, we think that the marsh is your proper place, and we are prepared to render you every assistance to get there. Only let go of our hands, don’t clutch at us and don’t besmirch the grand word freedom, for we too are “free” to go where we please, free to fight not only against the marsh, but also against those who are turning towards the marsh! Lenin, What Is To Be Done?, “Dogmatism And ‘Freedom of Criticism’” (1901) |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by confusedlady(f): 9:26pm On Jul 23 |
AlexBells: Your Ibo supremacist agenda is not ever hidden. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by confusedlady(f): 9:30pm On Jul 23 |
AlexBells: So why was Azikiwe with Ojukwu as his extraordinary ambassador when Biafra was declared in 1967? 2 Likes
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Queseda: 9:57pm On Jul 23 |
flokii:You Yorubas are too docile even up till now. They cant try what they try with you here in the North 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by flokii: 11:20pm On Jul 23 |
Queseda: Some are docile, not all.. someone like me can't be cheated or played again in this life by any tribe or group. I'm too exposed to fall. My time in the North has shown me flaws of my people especially Lagosians.. we have allowed too many rubbish in our territory. That's the reason we are telling our people in the West who haven't crossed SW borders to wise up and protect our region and heritage. Any small riot in North, killings go start, reason the SE don't venture near North or attempt to call any of Northern lands 'no man's land'. They prefer to head South West and attack Yorubas. 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 6:47am On Jul 24 |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 6:48am On Jul 24 |
DeepsightX: Still waiting for that apology. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DeepsightX: 7:38am On Aug 02 |
DeepsightX: nairalanda1 are you now happy that you see what the policies you advocate are causing? |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 11:11am On Aug 02 |
DeepsightX: Well, we can pay 80% of next year's budget and borrow to fill in the deficit so that we can have N100 per liter fuel. And we can keep losing billions to the smuggling And the refineries can all go to pot. But you got to have that cheap fuel. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 11:23am On Aug 02 |
DeepsightX: It's nice to see you are not being abusive for once. At the moment, Nigeria cannot afford subsidy. I know you think they can, but for you, this is not about my views on subsidy It is because you think I support the people that got your beloved GEJ out of power. That is what is all this is all about. That's why someone as intelligent as you are opposes subsidy removal. If your side was in power, you would be supporting me. But your side is not in power, that is why you are opposing me Suffice to know that in 2011, I got a wake up cann 1. I learned, from a government propaganda advert , that subsidy does not really help the poorest of the poor. 2.GEJ's partial removal of subsidy reduced subsidy costs from 34 to 2 naira. And the savings gave us sure p and other things. But because you have allowed your side to keep you in check, you don't see that, you don't see that I am one of those Nigerians who is not on your side or the agbado side, and who tends to see things dispassionately. That is why you are so abusive. I know you won't be convinced by my comments, but suffice to know that before 2011 december, I was like you. I beleived in subsidy, always had, always thought that any attempt to remove subsidy was evil, was wrong, was not right. I was among those who mocked one of OBasanjo's ministars who said that subsidy should be removed because fuel was cheaper than coke. Then in 2011, I woke up. And I realized a lot of things. And I realized that even though I did not like PDP, it was time to put aside my anger at how they had wrecked our economy, and at least support them on this side. That is my story. But you won't see it because you just want to bully and to abuse me. LIke most NIgerians you have this idea that being abusive makes you wiser, makes you stronger. It does not. It only makes you look bad. And the fact that I respond to you and even joke quote you is to keep myself from abusing you back, because I can and I could give as good as you got. And I do. But it won't benefit me, it would only make me feel sick and it would only make me feel ill. You don't like my support for subsidy removal. FIne. It's your view. But know this...I do not want Nigeria to end up being so indebted that we can't pay any thing just because we want to help the poor. See what 40 years of subsidy and helping the poor has done. Nothing. But you don't see this because you are angry and bitter, and you back a side. Yeah, that's true. I am angry, but I ain't going to let my anger blind me to good solutuons Who said building a nation was easy. Good morning. You are free not to read this, and you are free to continue in the same vein, and I am free to respond as I see fit. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by nairalanda1(m): 11:41am On Aug 02 |
DeepsightX: If you want a view of why we have the problems we have now 1. Pass the books , hold the oil 2. Dutch disease and Nigeria 3. Dutch disease and Nigeria no 2 4. Managing the Dutch disease in NIgeria, excerpt 5. Dr Field Ruwe on development I will add, that for most African countries, at independence, we chose the route of selling resources, and sharing the money realized from selling the resources. Which worked until the population outgrew the ability of the revenue from those resources to be equtably shared. Add corruption and stealing, and matter is worse. Another thing is that if we shared our budget for this year among all of us...everyone would get N120000 for the year. That's not enough, but it also shows that even before looting, the money is not enough. That is why fighting corruption won't do much...except bring in more investment, and make life a bit easier, and it has to be done, but ulitmately, we need to make more money. And it can be done by learning from the above links. Subsidy removal and its effects is the symptom of a larger problem, which I am attempting to define here. It is by no means the cause. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DeepsightX: 12:08pm On Aug 02 |
nairalanda1: Well it's good we are now having a good conversation. I apologize for calling you a murderer. Pls forgive me. It was out of frustration. By the way I didn't support GEJ. He was corrupt. Good afternoon and let's now be friends. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Sunrise258: 9:41pm On Sep 26 |
Armaggedon: You don't know how to read and understand and that makes a mumu. By the time armed robber Ojukwu was fighting for cessation, it was already treasonable and that caused mass death of Igbo. Awo was by far more sensible than Zik & Ojukwu combined. He knew cessation at the time was like mass suicide. Besides when he fought for cessation clause inclusiveness in the constitution, Zik was busy antagonistic. British listened to Zik bc he had the majority back then and his children get stuck till date 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Uchek(m): 11:23pm On Sep 26 |
OLODO RABATA! Treason based on what constitution? Treason determined by who? Treason according to whose judgement? Gowon? JAMO84: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Uchek(m): 11:24pm On Sep 26 |
You described Awo accurately. He was a two-faced & duplicitous Yoruba man. Armaggedon: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Dalohad: 11:26pm On Sep 26 |
JAMO84: Jamiu, Zik argued against it, he was not the final arbiter or decider, the Brits were. Go school, you say na Ile-Kewu you go do. |
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