TenQ:
Mr Ohyoudidnt

1. All your Scholars agree that Solomon stood dead for a year, almost a year or a year plus, check the following screenshot as requested.
2. You will need to explain how Solomon's wives, subjects did not know that solomon was dead for a whole year


https://www.ibnalarabi.com/quran/aya.php?id=3620
Fourth by Ibn Al-Baghawi quoting Ibn Abbas

TenQ:

1. Show me where I said ONE YEAR: because I have always consistently said almost one year because not every Tafsir say exactly one year.

2. What I have said is that your scholars agree with me and not you! Are you better than your scholars?

Nevertheless,
Is Al-Jalalayn Wrong?
34.14 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
And when We decreed for him, for Solomon, death, in other words, [when] he died — he remained supported against his staff an entire year, while the jinn continued to toil in hard labour as was customary, unaware of his death, until [finally] when a termite ate through his staff, he fell to the ground [and was seen to be] dead — nothing indicated to them that he had died except a termite (al-ard is the verbal noun from uridat al-khashaba, passive verbal form, in other words, ‘it [the piece of wood] was eaten away by a termite [al-arada]’) that gnawed away at his staff (read minsa’atahu or minsātahu, replacing the hamza with an alif, meaning a ‘staff’, so called because [when describing it one would say] yunsa’u bihā, to mean it is used to repel or drive away [creatures]’)....


Is Ibn-Abbas Wrong?

34.14 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And when We decreed death for him) for Solomon, Solomon died and remained standing in his retreat for a year (nothing showed his death) the death of Solomon (to them save a creeping creature of the earth) a woodworm (which gnawed away his staff) and it is said: his short spear. (And when he fell) when Solomon fell to the ground (the jinn saw clearly how) the jinn and human beings saw clearly that they do not know the unseen, (if they had known the unseen, they would not have continued in despised toil) they would not have continued in their subservience. People thought before this that the jinn knew the unseen but when they saw this they realised that they did not

Is Ibn-Kathir Wrong
34.14 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
The Death of Sulayman
Allah tells us how Sulayman, peace be upon him, died and how Allah concealed his death from the Jinn who were subjugated to him to do hard labor. He remained leaning on his stick, which was his staff, as Ibn `Abbas may Allah be pleased with him, Mujahid, Al-Hasan, Qatadah and others said. He stayed like that for a long time, nearly a year. When a creature of the earth, which was a kind of worm, ate through the stick, it became weak and fell to the ground. Then it became apparent that he had died a long time before. It also became clear to Jinn and men alike that the Jinn do not know the Unseen as they (the Jinn) used to imagine and tried to deceive people. This is what Allah says:



If you need the Arabic version, please go to https://quranx.com/tafsirs/ 34.14

I can't paste the Tafsirs in Arabic as seun's Nairaland bots will ban my account.



So, am telling lies against your religion or saying exactly what majority of your scholars interpret the Qur'an to mean?

You own me an apology sir!

Ohyoudidnt:


When you are categorically called a liar you take offense. All your screenshots are not from altafsir.com. Did you not say if I want arabic version I will find it there in your several post pointing to it?

Why have you gotten screenshots from other sites? Indeed you are very truthful.

TenQ:

You are purely EVIL and dominated truly by Iblis.

You are not worth it

Have a nice day!

TenQ:

Mr Antichristian
This says in summary that
1. The West is ignorant of who Muslims truly are
Deduction:
Islam is a disease that infects a whole nation. Islam is like a virus or pathogen that causes the disease of violence in a people

TenQ:
Mr Ohyoudidnt

1. All your Scholars agree that Solomon stood dead for a year, almost a year or a year plus, check the following screenshot as requested.
2. You will need to explain how Solomon's wives, subjects did not know that solomon was dead for a whole year


https://www.ibnalarabi.com/quran/aya.php?id=3620
Third by Ibn Sa'ad

TenQ:
Tafsir by Al-Jalalayn can be found here in Arabic



https://surahquran.com/aya-tafsir-14-34.html#jlalin




You Muslims are chronic liars.

Anything that is disgraceful, you don't translate. The one you translate, you polish up to sound nice.


Shame on you!

Ohyoudidnt:

Is it untrue that you categorically state the arabic tafsir is in altafsir.com?
I have gone through 2 of your screenshots and see none stating how long Suleiman a.s leaned on a stick.

Kindly apologise to your mentees for leading them astray.

Swallow your insincere and aggressive have a nice day phrase. Hope it digests well with you.

NairaLTQ:
I can see why you quickly went to the Admin to bail you out. Unfortunatly for you, i grabbed your screen


The Admin Quickly bailed you Out by banning my post!?
SMH!

When I say you are a chronic liar, it is an understatement.
You have gone through the screenshots and found that there was nothing like a YEAR as duration of Solomon's death!?
How can you look me in the face and say that none stating how long Suleiman a.s leaned on a stick

Check each of the Tafsir I gave you:





If you like, call the Admin to delete this too and ban the account
Chronic Liar!

You are indeed the slave of the Al-Makr!

Ohyoudidnt:


You are extremely pathetic with your line of thought and lie again without any proof. I went to the admin you say. Of what use is that to me.

The extent of your lies is really troubling and you should seek deliverance.

You grabbed my screen of what please? Present it if indeed you have it and are not doing what comes naturally to you.

NairaLTQ:
I can see why you quickly went to the Admin to bail you out. Unfortunatly for you, i grabbed your screen


The Admin Quickly bailed you Out by banning my Account!?
SMH!
You goofed right!
Too Bad!

When I say you are a chronic liar, it is an understatement.
You have gone through the screenshots and found that there was nothing like a YEAR as duration of Solomon's death!?
How can you look me in the face and say that none stating how long Suleiman a.s leaned on a stick

Check each of the Tafsir I gave you:





If you like, call the Admin to delete this too and ban the account
Chronic Liar!

You are indeed the slave of the Al-Makr!

NairaLTQ:

I am laughing my head off at your goof: caught RED HANDED!

YOU SAID: "I have gone through 2 of your screenshots and see none stating how long Suleiman a.s leaned on a stick."

You indeed went through them!

I am done with you sir: It is not easy debating a Chronic Liar!

TenQ:



Here it is from Mr Ohyoudidnt


Thus my question if this is the TRUE position of Islam

AntiChristian:


Quote a reference for it from the Qur'an or Sunnah!

AntiChristian:


Quote a reference for it from the Qur'an or Sunnah!

Ohyoudidnt:


You see your ignorance. What is a year? Is this not singular?

In any case kindly provide the actual arabic tafsir of these scholars for translation analysis? How many scholars agree with you?


Surely you never read this:

Hz. Sulayman started the construction of a big temple during the last years of his reign. The jinn worked very hard in the construction of this temple called Masjid al-Aqsa (the Farthest Mosque) and Bayt al-Maqdis (the Holy House), which is regarded as the holiest temple after the Kaaba.

One day, Hz. Sulayman was checking their work leaning on his walking stick. The construction of the temple was about to finish. The jinn were very tired and wanted to rest.

However, Hz. Sulayman was watching them leaning on his walking stick; therefore, they did not dare to stop. Meanwhile, Hz. Azrail arrived and took his spirit. The jinn, who thought they knew about the unknown, thought he was alive and continued working although they were tired. This situation lasted for days. A woodworm started to gnaw the walking stick of the Prophet Sulayman days ago. When the construction of the temple ended, the woodworm finished gnawing the stick. The stick broke and Hz. Sulayman fell down. Only then did the people and the jinn notice that he had died. If the woodworm had not gnawed the stick, nobody would have known that he had died. Upon this incident, the jinn spoke as follows:

"If we knew the unknown, we would have known about the death of the Prophet Sulayman." It became apparent that they did not know about the unknown.


Unfortunately the link you share doesn't contain the actual arabic tafsir. It presents some of the Quran text in arabic not the tafsir in arabic. Don't play smart!

TenQ:

It isnt my position o!
It is the position of Mr Ohyoudidnt


Is this the true position of Islam?



Mr Ohyoudidnt forgot a number of things
1. All the Hadiths mentioned one Year: is the one year of the Jinn different from that of the Human year?
2. Are the Ants or Woodworm from the jinn world?
3. Are the Jinn building an invisible structure for Solomon?


Of course you know well that Surah Saba vs 14 doesnt say this!

Ohyoudidnt:


Please quote just one hadith that specifies one year

TenQ:
Mr Ohyoudidnt

1. All your Scholars agree that Solomon stood dead for a year, almost a year or a year plus, check the following screenshot as requested.
2. You will need to explain how Solomon's wives, subjects did not know that solomon was dead for a whole year


https://www.ibnalarabi.com/quran/aya.php?id=3620
Second by Ibn Al-Tabari

TenQ:

The Tafsirs of your scholars are not enough for you!?
Are you claiming that the fabricated these stories?

Why not ask me for one verse in the book of Mormons that specified that solomon died for almost one year leaning on a stick?
Also ask me to ask the Sultan of Sokoto if he knew Solomon

Ohyoudidnt:


Let us look at a relevant part of At-Tabari

Therefore, there are two opinions: One of them is what Qatada and others said. He said: The jinn claimed knowledge of the unseen, so when Solomon, peace be upon him, died and his death was hidden from everyone.

The jinn had made clear that if only they had knowledge of the unseen they wouldn't havr remained working in fear. He stayed for a year while the jinn worked in front of him until the earth ate up his staff and he fell. It is narrated that whilehe never knew how long he had died.

So I put the earth on the stick and ate from it for a day and a night. Then they calculated on that and found thathe had died a hundred years ago.

Please somewhere says one year another arrives at a calculated estimate of 100 years. 1 and 100 are too far apart to conclude on a specific time frame or is this what your statistical/mathematical knowledge tells You?

Ohyoudidnt:


Please enlighten me is Tafsir equal to Hadith?

Characteristically you rush and misconceive hadith and tafsir. Also knowing or maybe not knowing that these two have varied types and gradation

TenQ:

The religious books of you muslims include the Quran, the Hadiths, the Tafsirs, the Sirah.

Can any muslim interpret the Quran without following the Sunnah?
Can any muslim interpret the Quran without following the Tafsirs and the Hadiths?

Ohyoudidnt:


Why can't the Quran be directly interpreted?

Is this because it is in Arabic language?

Do you mean naturally speaking Arabians need an interpreter to understand the arabic of the Quran?

I hope you are not deliberately making an intellectual mistake.

Did you understand the video you shared?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSkzcocL1A0?si=l2duWWcx_h6Rw18u