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Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Krigbe: 8:42pm On Jul 23 |
In as much I wouldn't like one business effort to be bastardized,we need to know that most of business Dangote is doing has been monopolized by him,like cement,sugar,so that at the end of the day,the whole country will be at his mercy. Thos big men talking in supporting his refinery will be beneficial but it is the common man of the country that will suffer it Nigerians should not allow our black gold to be monopolise by anybody not even the government. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by chidiokay: 8:48pm On Jul 23 |
mblarry1: You sick o kor mor nii ... no be every nonsense wey cum your mind you go dey share .. ewu |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 9:00pm On Jul 23 |
Lavor234:Who told you the fuel won't be cheaper |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by mblarry1(m): 9:17pm On Jul 23 |
See this useless idiot wey de call person ewu... Foolish he goat like u . Ozwor chidiokay: |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 9:43pm On Jul 23 |
StraightGaay:Nnamdi kanu was hiding in UK till he got caught like a stray goat in Kenya. Ojukwu hid in Cote D'Ivoire for years. What do you call those? |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by StraightGaay: 9:58pm On Jul 23 |
Kukutenla:Better than taking RATAK |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by malali: 10:40pm On Jul 23 |
Kukutenla: Walmart has competition, it doesnt own 70% of retail share. Have you ever been to the USA ? Do you know of these stores listed below ?
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Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by malali: 10:44pm On Jul 23 |
Kukutenla: How is Dangote better than the government. By already inflating the cost of building his refinery ? No refinery on earth or in Mars cost 20 billion dollars. We are complaining of inflated procurement and we want to hand it over to someone who inflated the cost of building his refinery......dey play. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by malali: 10:48pm On Jul 23 |
DEXTROVERT: My point exactly, so you now see that even he will accept payment in dollars. His business is for his pocket. We saw that in the cement manufacturing. Zero concessions are being offered to Nigerians buying cement from him. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by malali: 10:54pm On Jul 23 |
Electorate: I am not in favor of NNPC, you are getting me wrong. But Dangote from his previous business antecedents is no saint either. Once he has succeeded in hijacking and controlling the dominant diesel and petrol stake we will be at his mercy. No mater the concessions the government gives him, he will sell for maximum profit. Look at the free stuff he gets for cement manufacturing, limestone,government waivers, tax concessions. We still buy cement at expensive prices. Dangote is fighting NNPC because he wants to "eat" that potential subsidy money alone,as profits. We are stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea. And by the way, that refinery didn't not cost 20 billion dollars. He has inflated the price already.The largest refinery in the world cost not more than 10 billion dollars. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Electorate: 11:20pm On Jul 23 |
malali: You shouldn't worry about him, he is not the only one in the cement industry, btw, BUA is also building a refinery, others can come in. It is all about financial power play...we should focus on bringing in investors that will give him a run for his money like they did by kicking him out of the tomato paste business... period. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Nobleou(m): 2:26am On Jul 24 |
malali:This is a 'Literary Nonsense', please do google the meaning of the quote phrase Assignment for you: Is Dangote richer than Nigeria's Government? Why are the Refineries in Nigeria not functioning? |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by malali: 2:40am On Jul 24 |
Nobleou: Stick to what you know. Masturbation expert.
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Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 6:09am On Jul 24 |
malali:How do you know for a fact that he inflated the cost of building his refinery? Is there a similar one built with less you can point to? I said you're filled with hate more than logic |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 6:10am On Jul 24 |
malali:It's now 70%. See how you quickly shifted goalpost when you realise Walmart actually own 60% of market shares, something you claim is an impossibility in the US. It's so obvious you don't know what anti- trust is all about. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 6:12am On Jul 24 |
StraightGaay:Who took RATAK? Ojuku or Azikiwe |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by malali: 6:16am On Jul 24 |
Kukutenla: The Jamnagar refinery is a private-sector crude oil refinery in Jamnagar, Gujarat, India. Reliance Industries owns it. The refinery now has a capability of 1,240,000 barrels per day, making it the largest refinery in the world. Twice the capacity of of Dangote refinery. It can be built for 6 billion dollars.
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Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by malali: 6:19am On Jul 24 |
Kukutenla: Get well soon. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 6:22am On Jul 24 |
malali:Ok. Work on it |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 6:30am On Jul 24 |
malali:How do you know it can be built for $6bn What's your source for this? Meanwhile Dangote refinery is a single train refinery and the largest in the world at that so it's totally different from the refinery you're brandishing. You need to be more logical in your claim |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by dapotemi: 7:24am On Jul 24 |
malali: This is another brilliant submission by you sir/ma. I surely enjoy reading this but I disagree with some fact but I'll state just one for now due to time constraints...Dangote or any investor cannot compete with importers.. Nobody can compete with importers and 'importing' is actually not a biz, it's abnormal like Adesina said but we have made it normal... Dangote refinery can compete with OTHER REFINERY!! Dangote cement is competing with BUA and others.. To be honest, leaving our oil supply to the hand of just one man is also scary but I believe reason, and I mean reasonably reason can prevail..There must be a way this thing can be done..We can have a win-win... If you're producing/manufacturing anything in this country and you allow people to import same thing from abroad, that you plant will die, naturally. What are the advantage of Dangote refinery to our economy on the long run? Do you know the forex we will save? Do you know how much we are loosing to all this importation? I respect your view! |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by malali: 8:21am On Jul 24 |
dapotemi: Dapo, I also see your views and i understand your concerns. I know Dangote cannot compete with importers. But do you know that the USA imports petrol despite having at least 130 fully functioning refineries. I am telling you here, even if Dangote refinery is fully functional we will continue to import Petrol. Energy is the real currency in the world. Do you know that when Russia started cornering the whole European market, they drew the ire of the USA. Its is not right to give Dangote the whole energy of the country. Nigeria owes OPEC the agreed quota 1.5 million barrels thereabout. After that there are other smaller refineries already getting crude before Dangote came into the picture. So just coming in and demanding crude on day one, we will have to give him from someone else's quota. Who will sacrifice their quota for him ? The oil market is not like like limestone for cement. Saudi produces 11 million barrel per day. If Saudi misses this quota by 1 barrel and produce only 10 million barrels. It will immediately raises prices all over the world. The truth of the matter is, crude oil is gold. Its the most important commodity in the world. The whole country feeds on Crude oil. (salaries,pensions,infrastructures,government funding). We do not even produce enough to satisfy OPEC, Local refiners and Dangote. Questions you should ask yourself is 1- Why doesn't Dangote ignore them and buy his crude in the open market ? 2-Why doesn't Dangote sell his products to the open market ? 3-Why is he tackling the government that they must sell or buy from him ? Petroleum is the crown jewel of petrodollar states. Just because dangote built a humongous refinery doesnt mean we will hand him the keys to Nigeria's sole means of National income. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by StraightGaay: 9:13am On Jul 24 |
Kukutenla:Ask your Awo your Papa |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 9:41am On Jul 24 |
StraightGaay:They are not aware of any such thing. You mentioned it. You should be able to tell |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by StraightGaay: 9:51am On Jul 24 |
Kukutenla:Oh, I didn't know |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 9:52am On Jul 24 |
malali:Stop with the misguided lies. US imports fuel as reserve. US is energy independent. The reserve is for emergencies and contingency situation and not to supply the the energy market. Nigeria does not owe OPEC. OPEC is not a bank. It is more of an interest group. Nigeria can choose to pull out any time and sell its oil indpendently. Several nations have done that in times past. Dangote has been buying crude from open market. But may I ask how it makes sense to any manufacturer to source locally available raw material from above. It is simple economics. Your question is like me asking why you buy garri from the market closest to you and not from a village in Benin. Dangote has been selling his products to the open market and even exporting. Is that not what we have prayed and cried for all these years? How come when it is a reality now we suddenly have a problem with the person doing it? It seems Africans are too jaundiced about everything to solve any problem in this life. It's like witchcraft. He is not tackling govt to buy or sell from him. What he is aasking govt to do is what a lot of people have been saying and even govt have been mouthing. What is deregulation of the downstream sector? What does it imply? How does it look like? That will answer your misguided question. I'm happy I saw you on the Otedola thread. You can see American companies he mentioned who get govt patronage on a steady just like I told you so quit the bullshit. The govt should stop stifling Dangote. They can call him to the table and get some concessions but certainly not kill the refinery. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 9:58am On Jul 24 |
StraightGaay:So you're just mouthing rubbish that you have no idea of. I hope you have seen Otedola's article about this issue. I thought you said he's hiding like Ojuku and Kanu did. He has proved you wrong. Be humble to accept defeat |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by live4ever: 10:10am On Jul 24 |
The solution to all these fuel issues and the cabal is very simple yet being deliberately overlooked by the politicians cos of selfish interests as well..... Just transform the NNPC into a Public Private Partnership (PPP) joint venture and making this investment open to those who have funds to play with and you'll see an entirely different Oil sector. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by StraightGaay: 10:33am On Jul 24 |
Kukutenla:I didn't know you are daft, is what I meant. |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 11:37am On Jul 24 |
StraightGaay:You can't know na. When you're so daft to label someone a coward because of a retweet In your mind now, all those who retweet are cowards and you're the only one who is brave cause you've never retweeted. Isn't that a daft way to think? |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by StraightGaay: 11:42am On Jul 24 |
Kukutenla:It takes a daft to know one, innit? |
Re: Akinwumi Adesina Says This Dangote Issue Is Shocking - Otedola by Kukutenla: 11:45am On Jul 24 |
StraightGaay:No it doesn't |
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