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Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by symbianDON(m): 6:20am On Aug 24 |
I always knew Tinubu was grossly overrated! He knows next to nothing about the economy he claims to be handling. Just see how he has turned everything on their heads and made Nigeria the butt of global jokes. Really sad!!! Emilokan don turn ebilokan. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by tuoyoojo(m): 6:32am On Aug 24 |
This was same lamba used to increase fuel price last year Even if they sell fuel for 2000 per litre as long as we have a week naira the incentive to smuggle would be high What is the use of customs on how boarders if they cannot do there work then its the fault of the head, sack them and bring in competent hands , the whole country cannot be made pay for the incompetent of a few What have the common man gained for increasing the price of fuel.name just one. Tilumbu said subsidy is gone. Leave am like that 1 Like |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 6:34am On Aug 24 |
Inspirer1: The truth is, no country with fuel subsides can stop the smuggling of its fuel Iran and Saudi and Venezuela and even Angola have one thing in common...they have a subsidised fuel smuggling problem, and it is bad. Veenzuela has even lost money from the thing And that's how it goes. The only way to stop fuel smuggling in NIgeria is either we build a large security wall around the country, or we simply remove subsidy and let fuel be sold at the market price. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by blackgold2018(m): 6:37am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014:I remember vividly that was one of the points those hungry and useless Apc/Tinubu supporters raised. Now I'm sure they will keep mute. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by Konquest: 6:38am On Aug 24 |
adenigga: |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by muhammadmuqtada(m): 6:38am On Aug 24 |
Wetin Musa no go see for border gate... 1 Like |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by Didijiji: 6:39am On Aug 24 |
Of what use is this stupid government When we were paying subsidies they say we were subsidizing fuel for our neighbors Now they claim we have stopped , fuel is still going to neighboring countries Prices have tripled Nigerians are suffering The government is buying jets How else can a government be useless 3 Likes |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by NwokoloOwa: 6:41am On Aug 24 |
Story every day 1 Like |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by codedcliq: 6:42am On Aug 24 |
codedcliq: This was my comment over 2 years ago. When Nigerians are ready, they know what to do. Useless politicians. 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by dallyemmy: 6:44am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014:It is because of the devaluation of the Naira while the values of our neighbours' currencies have not really changed. |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 6:46am On Aug 24 |
dallyemmy: Nope, it is because govt are still subsidising fuel. As a result, fuel prices are below what it should really cost. The result..smuggling. The same issues with currency are happening in other west african countries....Ghana too has issues for example. |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by Marvyx(m): 6:49am On Aug 24 |
nairalanda1: All this epistle without thinking that if Nigerians have enough purchasing power or in the least even abundant electricity, they wouldn't mind buying fuel at 1500 per litre. 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by lexy2014: 6:49am On Aug 24 |
dallyemmy: Another lame excuse. Is this the first time that the naira is being devalued? If devaluation is the reason for fuel being smuggled to neighbouring countries, how come the government has always said the reason for smuggling is because the price is low and needs to be increased? If devaluation is the problem, how does government deliberately devalue the naira knowing the consequences it will have in terms of smuggling? 1 Like |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by Krankhead: 6:50am On Aug 24 |
Ordinary Nigerians are the enemies of Nigeria. Is it BAT that is selling the Fuel in NIGER |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by lexy2014: 6:50am On Aug 24 |
nairalanda1: all these years, we have been told that the justification for fuel price increase is to discourage smuggling to neighbouring countries. After all the price increases under the guise of removing subsidy, how come smuggling of fuel to neighbouring countries is still taking place? 1 Like |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 6:52am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014: We are still subsidising. That is why we still have smuggling. Good morning. Shebi you wanted subsidy. Your leader is giving you subsides. See the effect of bad APC Policies. Result is the mess we have now. I know you guys care for the poor of this country, but it is evident we can no longer sustain subsides, or shortfall. |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by asskush: 6:53am On Aug 24 |
nairalanda1: They are coming for you .. |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 6:57am On Aug 24 |
Marvyx: SO, government should spend over N1000 per liter so that you can have fuel at N40 per liter then? The issue is, your government is not able to keep up the subsidy, and is going into debt keeping fuel at N700 and below. For me it is kind of choose your poision. 1. Keep subsidy, even reduce prices to N200 or less per liter, and the resulting deficit eats our forex earnings, and drives us into debt and penilessness until Sri Lanka level is attained. 2. Remove subsidy, yes hyperinflation for some time, but we eventually get more domestic refining, more investment, and could even become an exporter of refined products, meaning our economy benefits (We won't have a good economy...until we industrialize and become an exporter of manufactured goods and services tho...that's another discussion). 2 IS the least worst option. NO one likes subsidy removal...but for donkey years we have subsidised fuel...and electricity, and at the end, we have gotten nothing out of it. TIme to try something new. We have been warned about this since 1993, and especially in 2012, when we had the last chance to remove subsidy painlessly. |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 6:59am On Aug 24 |
asskush: Yes, because most people on this site tend to think that removing subsidy makes one an oppressor. They don't see the long term benefits. I was convinced of subsidy removal under GEJ. Note that I regard the main political parties with the same level of suspicion, yet when good points are made by the government sometimes, I listen, and in 2012, I listened, and my eyes were opened. |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by lexy2014: 7:02am On Aug 24 |
nairalanda1: Pls read again. Take note of the highlighted. all these years, we have been told that the justification for fuel price increase is to discourag e smuggling to neighbouring countries. After all the price increases under the guise of removing subsidy, how come smuggling of fuel to neighbouring countries is still taking place?. Who are the "we"? Who is "your president"? If there is a "we", who is the "your"? What is the "bad APC policy" that you say the effect should be seen? What is the mess "we" have now? Who are the "you guys" you are referring to? How is fuel subsidy no longer sustainable? 1 Like |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by dallyemmy: 7:19am On Aug 24 |
I don't speak for the government. However, you fact check the exchange rate of Nigeria compare to our neighbours. Then you can make your inference why it's a good business for the smugglers. Have a great day! lexy2014: |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 7:28am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014: Is there any way to address the grievances of the people? There is, but the government of West Bengal and the Bengali society will have to change attitude. They should concede that the people in the Jharkhand cultural region are not inferior and take the following steps. First, the executives who ordered Night Raids be removed from their post and the government should seek apology from the people. Second, the large number of political prisoners who are in jail for years together without any trial be released immediately. Third, Jhargram and the adjoining areas should be reorganised as an autonomous area under sixth schedule or Art 244A of the constitution with suitable amendments so as to guarantee effective control in the hands of the Gram Sansads Santosh Rana Revolt in Jangalmahal |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 7:28am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014: Marx utilised this debate as an opportunity to outline his own economic ideas, particularly regarding the law of value, based on the labour theory of value (LTV), and the difference between values and prices. The thrust of Marx’s exposition is that the prices of commodities – goods and services produced for exchange on the market – are not arbitrary; nor are they decided by the subjective caprices of the capitalists. Rather, prices are determined by objective laws and dynamics, which can be understood and examined. Marx stressed that prices are not determined by the addition of wages and profits, as the bourgeois classical economists asserted. Rather, prices are, broadly speaking, the monetary expression of the value of commodities. Prices vary according to supply and demand, Marx explained. But in a free market, under the pressure of competition, these prices should fluctuate around an average level – the value of a commodity, determined by the socially necessary labour time required to produce a given good. It is the working class, in other words, who produce all new value in society, adding value to commodities by applying their labour in the process of production. And this value, in turn, is then distributed amongst workers and capitalists, respectively, in the form of wages and profits. Importantly, Marx highlighted, workers themselves sell a commodity to the capitalist: their labour power; that is, their ability or capacity to work for a given hour, day, week, etc. And in return for this commodity, they receive a wage. Labour power, in most respects, is like any other commodity. It has a value, determined by the socially necessary labour time required to produce this commodity. For labour power, this means the average time required to maintain and reproduce the working class itself, in the form of food, clothing, housing, education, and so on From Marxism, money, and inflation by Adam Booth, from here |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 7:28am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014: If M. Nordau did not precisely formulate these considerations on the lack of objectivity proper to history, it seems that they will even so easily take their place among the perspectives presented by the concepts he has composed. Applying himself to defining history in the most positive way, he casts the finalist chimera from the consideration of its object. He defines it as the totality of episodes of the human struggle for existence, and by this struggle he means both man’s struggle with nature and that of man against man. This idea of struggle implies that man is threatened by an incessant danger, and that this threat motivates human activity throughout his history. All of man’s efforts are thus aimed at removing himself from the danger that threatens him, of removing the feeling of displeasure engendered by the hostility of their surroundings Jules de Gaultier 1910 A Critique of the Idea of Progress |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by Standing5(m): 7:29am On Aug 24 |
If they remove subsidy and sell for 1800 it is going for around us, they will use the funds to do a dormant highway at interest rates we will have to pay. |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 7:29am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014: Crises in a capitalist economic mechanism occur when a certain amount of merchandise of a definite value (m) cannot be sold within the limits of the said mechanism. The problem presented by the crises consists in determining the factors which condition them, and more particularly in ascertaining whether the crises result from the very essence of the existing economic order, or whether they are the result of inessential and accidental influences. An ineffective dispute of more than a hundred year’s duration, based as it was on theoretical considerations only, has induced many investigators of the problem to try the historical method: the key to the theoretical explanation was sought in descriptions, as detailed as possible, of the reality of experience. In opposition to this tendency the author is of opinion that naïve empiricism must be abandoned and – experiments being out of the question – logical constructions must be attempted Henryk Grossman, The theory of economic crisis, 1919. |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 7:29am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014: Fourth of all, the present task is to draw a clear line between socialist self-management as a radical alternative to all existing forms of hired labour, class divisions, exploitation and alienated existence and various aspects of workers’ participation in the decision-making process which are developed and accepted, as an appendage to the existing class society or as a means of alleviating certain contradictions in the system of state socialism. For concerted efforts are being made to treat self-management as just one of the ways in which to “include” the worker in the process of management. Obviously this is an attempt to conceal the profoundly revolutionary nature of the idea of workers’ self-management. Branko Privecic The Present Phase in the Development of Ideas and Movements of Workers’ Participation and/or Self-Management |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 7:29am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014: And our movement must base itself on these current demands of the masses. Our goal is the abolition of Capitalism. We understand that without the abolition of capitalism, no amount of reform will bring emancipation. However, if the proletarian masses do not demand the abolition of capitalism but rather improvement in their actual conditions, our movement must base itself on these actual demands. We understand that the producer has to get control over the means of production. However if the masses of the working class still do not demand control over the means of production and instead only demand an increase in wages as low as ten sen per day, our movement must base itself on the people's demand. Our movement must base itself on the actual demands of the masses, and from these actual demands we must get our strength Yamakawa Hitoshi 1922 A Change of Course for the Proletarian Movement |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 7:32am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014: Social democratic theory, and still more the praxis, was determined by a concept of progress which did not hold to reality, but had a dogmatic claim. Progress, as it was painted in the minds of the social democrats, was once upon a time the progress of humanity itself (not only that of its abilities and knowledges). It was, secondly, something unending (something corresponding to an endless perfectibility of humanity). It counted, thirdly, as something essentially unstoppable (as something self-activating, pursuing a straight or spiral path). Each of these predicates is controversial, and critique could be applied to each of them. This latter must, however, when push comes to shove, go behind all these predicates and direct itself at what they all have in common. The concept of the progress of the human race in history is not to be separated from the concept of its progression through a homogenous and empty time. The critique of the concept of this progress must ground the basis of its critique on the concept of progress itself Walter Benjamin 1940 On the Concept of History |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 7:33am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014: The change which is now going on in the buyer’s position – a change which is determinative for the social life of the individual and for his self-awareness – cannot but affect the human makeup as it is inevitably caught up into the economic and technological development with its dizzying rate of acceleration. The rising living standard and the improved condition of large sectors of the population which at an earlier time were not part of the bourgeoisie are effecting a revolution in the mechanisms of buying and selling, even among the upper bourgeoisie. Even in the area of daily shopping a transformation is taking place which is more far-reaching than the drastic change from the specialized store to the department store which Emile Zola depicted in his novel Le paradis des dames. In the process of selling household necessities and especially food, those who help in the selling have a few necessary tasks but otherwise are only stopgaps, temporary substitutes for self-service and automated equipment. This is true of the economy generally for that part of the work force which does not simply supervise automation. As formerly, so now the customer is a subject, but he is now to some extent a self-supporting subject: he must quickly orient himself, know his way around among the current standardized brands, and react promptly as though he were working in a factory. In modern stores which are organized with psychological expertise, stores that are for the most part chain-stores in which price and quality are determined somewhere far from the place of the transaction and are minimally subject to bargaining, the resigned gestures of the old-style housewife as she tests the proffered goods may still be justified in exceptional cases but they are nonetheless as antiquated as she herself is Feudal Lord, Customer, and Specialist: The End of the Fairy Tale of the Customer as King Max Horkheimer 1964 |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by nairalanda1(m): 7:33am On Aug 24 |
lexy2014: Proletarianization of the population proceeds as never before. Unarguably, the working class is the absolute majority in the world. The so-called services are being industrialized, that is put under the regime of mechanized production and social labor. The modern office is little different from the automated factory. In both, low pay, long hours and insecure jobs are the norm. Professions are transformed from independent livelihood into wage-labor. Mental workers are joining manual laborers in organizing unions to protect their interests as wage-slaves. Globalization has unleashed not so much the creative power of capital as its destructive forces. The genie of finance capital has been liberated by the liberalization of trade and investment and has left a path of destruction in its wake. Intensified global competition is the anarchy of production multiplied and the crisis of overproduction internationalized. Capitalism in the age of Globalization is hopelessly bound up in its innate contradictions brought to their peak. And the proletariat is inevitably impelled to revolt by the vicious attacks against their living standards and social rights. Globalization by its very nature transforms the economic turmoil in one nation into a world crisis. It obliges the workers struggle in one country to become an international fight. Filemon ‘Ka Popoy’ Lagman .A manifesto for the new millenium |
Re: Benin Republic, Niger Enjoy Smuggled Fuel As Nigerians Keep Vigil For Petrol by Menclothing1: 7:35am On Aug 24 |
Tinubu is a Dillard allowing neighbors country to have better currency most seller prefare to Ship to near country reason for scarcity lately |
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