coogar:

on the top of my head.....
arsenal(fa cup 2007/8, emirates 2009/10)
chelsea(community shield 09/10, league last season)
man city(community shield 11/12, league 10/11)
liverpool(league 07/08) spurs(league 07/08 league 10/11)
plus countless of assists in those games to boot - he has scored against bayern, barcelona and created goals in big european match-ups - and he's not consistent?

debosky:

Nani has scored multiple times against the top 5 sides of last season in the past 3-4 seasons (more than Valencia has done), but StarBoard is just waiting for Nani to start demonstrating consistency.

Waiting for the next definition of consistent.

coogar:

nani's not consistent has to be the biggest joke on this forum. see bad belle o! they said nani is not consistent, we brought out the stats to prove his consistent productivity! they said stats don't count - errrrrrm, how do you measure productivity without numbers and stats? we let that fly.....so we asked them, name a better winger than nani so we can understand the meaning of "consistency" and nothing has been provided! starboard needs to lie down..........

StarBoard:
I'm sorry but again, you're just talking for the sake of it.
Valencia in his 3rd season with United is who you are referencing for comparison.
Please spare me.

StarBoard:
Yeah,8 goals in 5 seasons in three competitions.
Consistency indeed.
And I'm supposed to be impressed.

As far as I know you haven't done that.
Please stop making bogus claims here.
You told me Guardiola pursued the Nani in question and I'm yet to see it in hard evidence.
You need to go and sleep.

RuuDie: Now, don't get it twisted. . .I still the dey vex for the a55hole with a passion; only DW19 matter tops my vexation as far as am concerned - but I just want you to see where some of this vitriol is coming from and I think this guy was able to highlight 'em relatively well!

I expected and still expect more than this from Nani. . .Don't get me wrong, he is fantastic player; I know he's got loads of skills, I've always thought he is a better footballing brain than CR7 - but why is it that I can't put my money on him delivering when it is crunch time!? Why doesn't he inspire any belief in me!!?

Thats why I would take a Walcott, Downing, Milner, Jarvis, Lennon, Young, Agbolahon, Pennant, Gervinho, Puncheon, Nzogbia - they are, at best, averagely equipped guys, no denying this. So the disapppointment isn't much if they cannot "perform miracles" - but from Nani, knowing his potential, I expect (demand) magic. . . and he is depriving me that just now. Another thing is time - how much more do we have to wait for him to deliver on the promise that his potential holds!? How much longer can the average fan who isn't head over heels in love with him wait!!?

He has delivered way below my expectations; probably for the better that he didn't get the #7 shirt, the increased weight of expectation might crank up the pressure a bit more and hurt rather than help him.

This is my pain, this is my annoyance!

RuuDie: Now, don't get it twisted. . .I still the dey vex for the a55hole with a passion; only DW19 matter tops my vexation as far as am concerned - but I just want you to see where some of this vitriol is coming from and I think this guy was able to highlight 'em relatively well!

I expected and still expect more than this from Nani. . .Don't get me wrong, he is fantastic player; I know he's got loads of skills, I've always thought he is a better footballing brain than CR7 - but why is it that I can't put my money on him delivering when it is crunch time!? Why doesn't he inspire any belief in me!!?

Thats why I would take a Walcott, Downing, Milner, Jarvis, Lennon, Young, Agbolahon, Pennant, Gervinho, Puncheon, Nzogbia - they are, at best, averagely equipped guys, no denying this. So the disapppointment isn't much if they cannot "perform miracles" - but from Nani, knowing his potential, I expect (demand) magic. . . and he is depriving me that just now. Another thing is time - how much more do we have to wait for him to deliver on the promise that his potential holds!? How much longer can the average fan who isn't head over heels in love with him wait!!?

He has delivered way below my expectations; probably for the better that he didn't get the #7 shirt, the increased weight of expectation might crank up the pressure a bit more and hurt rather than help him.

This is my pain, this is my annoyance!

afrodoc: Haba Ruudie u myt as well take [b]Bebe,Obertan,Luke Chadwick and Ritchie Jones! [/b]Its not a matter of wether he is delivering up to his full potential,its a question of "how many of those guys can give d number of assists n goals he gives?"
D argument can b made dt rooney hasn't lived up to his teenage potential but dt doesn't mean we sell him and buy Bobby Zamora who has overachieved on his!

coogar:

hahahahahaha
i expected my son to score 360 in jamb but he ended up scoring 320.....i was expecting my daughter to score 200 in jamb and she scored 280! according to ruudie, my daughter is more brilliant than my son!!! in his logic, 280 is more than 320!

RuuDie:

Exactly!

El Guapo: Cooger this is in response to the Gestures u showed me some Minutes ago!

El Guapo: Cooger this is in response to the Gestures u showed me some Minutes ago!

afrodoc: I no fit shout!
So dis el guapo is just a kid

afrodoc: I no fit shout!
So dis el guapo is just a kid

BlueDiva: Is that El Guapo?
Well, we always knew you were young but not this young.

Kudos all the same for giving coogar the middle. . .

Manchester United is pleased to announce the signing of 18-year-old Angelo Henriquez.

The Chile under-23 striker joins United from Universidad de Chile for an undisclosed fee.
Sir Alex Ferguson is delighted with the news and told ManUtd.com: “Angelo has made a tremendous impact on the game in his short career so far. His pace is a great asset and he reads the game really well for someone of such a young age.

"We have a proud record of developing young talent and Angelo fits the profile of a United player – skilful, attacking and someone who plays the game with real flair.”
Henriquez himself is equally excited at the prospect of pulling on the red shirt: “I am thrilled to be joining the biggest club in the world. Manchester United is a great team and has a great manager.

"To be able to be part of that is a huge honour and I can’t wait to get started. I hope I can be part of many successful years with United.”
Henriquez's squad number for the 2012/13 campaign will be no.21.

http://www.manutd.com/en/RobinVanPer...henriquez.aspx

coogar:

well done....
i respect your opinion......i'd like you to take me to the parallel universe where 280 is more than 320. then again, you are the one putting nani in the same bracket as ronaldo(the best player on the planet), no one has asked you to do that and i am yet to see you compare rooney to messi or compare lindegaard to casillas!

A-40:
Lol you guys are still on the Nani issue? The Anti-Nani guys are arguing purely on emotion! No cold-hard facts whatsoever. Just tell us you can't stand Nani and we will all move on!

@Starboard
8 big games in 5 seasons is not good enough? Imagine if Valencia had matched that stat!

coogar:

name another winger who's done more?

debosky:

Now we should only assess/compare players by how long they've played at the club!

What about the fact that Valencia is 27 and Nani is 25? Should Nani be further down his developmental path at 25 or should Valencia be further down at 27?

Please show ONE winger with better stats against the clubs mentioned. So far, no definition of consistency, no definition of what the expectation level is except for vacuous references to Ronaldo who is far and above any winger on the planet.

And you have the temerity to say someone else is talking for the sake of it.

RuuDie:

Ha ha.

The man who claims Pep was chasing Nani - just a few posts back, you were labelling him [b]a maverick - why watering down on your earlier claims now!?[/b]

A couple of seasons back, here is a man touted by you and many others as the man to step out of the shadows and fill that "CR7-void". . .yet you expect me to celebrate his mediocrity!?

StarBoard:
For the umpteenth time, wingers are going out of style.

You're still talking for the sake of it.
Last I checked, Ronaldo stopped being a winger like 4 years ago.

Obviously, Nani has played more games at United than Nani,yet with the stats in the link provided,Nani's pass completion,crossing accuracy,shooting accuracy,loss of possession,shooting accuracy and chance conversion (key components) are inferior to Valencia's.

coogar:

wingers are not going out of style - stop blaspheming! ronaldo is a winger - ribery, robben, pedro, nani, valencia, young, di maria are all wingers - they are not dead yet!!

coogar:

so what is ronaldo now? a defender! ronaldo is still a winger but has a free role to roam.....technically, he's still a winger!

coogar:
shooting accuracy is a key component? pass completion for a winger is a key component? so what are goals and assists if pass completion/shooting accuracy are key components? you are clutching at straws! from the stats you provided, nani even defends better than valencia - he scores more than him and creates more goals than him. productivity = goals + assists otherwise leon britton is better than xavi/iniesta and denilson is better than fabregas!

StarBoard:
And tell me which of those stretch the width of the play like traditional wingers.
Tell me if all the above don't drift inwards into scoring positions?

No Ronaldo is a coach.
So what does Ronaldo's insane goal record since 2007/8 tell you about his position?
How many of the listed "wingers" have anything near his goal tally, even in a wet-dream?
Roaming my a$$.We're asking what he does for Real Madrid lately.

I wonder then why the issue of stats is so big a deal if you can't take the above as key components.
Nani had 30 shots off-target compared to Valencia who had only 9 last season.Judging from that stat for example,would you say Nani wa more productive than Valencia?
The way I see it,stats make you believe what you want.Ryan Giggs is a perfect example.