coogar:

that's because you are a tool - every cup counts.....
community shield is the supercup equivalent in spain. you listed premier league title and FA cup but your common sense cannot tell you the winner of community shield would be superior to those 2. then again, you listed bayern's 2 intercontinental cup but you are too retardëd to put man utd's FIFA club world cup? when you learn how to count, get back to us.....

Maybe you can help your fellow twerps and tell us the trophies that added to make your 61 without adding the useless cups you won

The Emirates, The Worthnothing, the Carling cup, the Milk cups etc

5 Champions league trophies, 23 League titles, 15 FA cup, 1 UEFA cup. When you have anything close. Let us know

At this time Bayern are Champions of Europe.

Last time Man Utd won the big ears George Bush was still president

dayokanu:
Maybe you can help your fellow twerps and tell us the trophies that added to make your 61 without adding the useless cups you won

The Emirates, The Worthnothing, the Carling cup, the Milk cups etc

5 Champions league trophies, 23 League titles, 15 FA cup, 1 UEFA cup. When you have anything close. Let us know

At this time Bayern are Champions of Europe.
Last time Man Utd won the big ears George Bush was still president

united have won more meaningful titles than bayern. 19 community shield titles, 4 league cups(carling cup). you said carling cup is worthless but the competition predates bundesliga. league cup found in 1960, bundesliga found in 63!

Deiok: yes it definately make him better, he is more recognized than ronaldinho and zidane. Which make him more like the face of football. Achievement is important, fame also is important.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Very Funny Boy

A-40:

When you claim what I say is nonsense you have insulted me already! So you started it bro

And I'm talking about class on the football pitch! 50 years from now no one would remember who was the sexiest player on E!,who sold the most jerseys and who had the most sponsors! What people would judge your "class" by is the number of hardware in your museum! That is why Beckham would never be higher than Ronaldinho or Zidane no matter how much money he makes or how many jerseys he sells

Who is talking about 50 years from now? We are talking about class or brand. Man United will remain a stronger brand over Bayern Munich. And EPL is a much renowned league than Bundesliga. After Bayern, which other Bundesliga league make wave in Europe consistently? The last ten years you have Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal always competing highly for the trophy. Anyway who watches Bundesliga. If not for German good economy nown your uninteresting classless league would die.

coogar:

united have won more meaningful titles than bayern. 19 community shield titles, 4 league cups(carling cup). you said carling is worthless but the competition predates bundesliga. league cup found in 1960, bundesliga found in 63!

League Cups? A trophy named Milk cup Worthnothing cup. This is the stuff of comedy


Whats your head to Head record vs Bayern? ow many leagues have you won vs Bayern, How many Champions league, UEFA Cup

Now brandishing a worthnothing cup. What a shame. This is even worse than celebrating 4th place in the league

When you have 4 CL trophies let us know.

elampiro:
Who is talking about 50 years from now? We are talking about class or brand. Man United will remain a stronger brand over Bayern Munich. And EPL is a much renowned league than Bundesliga. After Bayern, which other Bundesliga league make wave in Europe consistently? The last ten years you have Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal always competing highly for the trophy. Anyway who watches Bundesliga. If not for German good economy nown your uninteresting classless league would die.

bundesliga is a one-man league.....
it's the weakest league in europe......bayern have won their league 23 times, the closest to them have won just 9 league titles(see the gaping difference). united have won it 20 times, liverpool(18 times) - you can see there's a very good competition here and you would see this closely-fought rivalry in most big leagues across europe except in germany!

dayokanu:
League Cups? A trophy named Milk cup Worthnothing cup. This is the stuff of comedy

Whats your head to Head record vs Bayern? ow many leagues have you won vs Bayern, How many Champions league, UEFA Cup

Now brandishing a worthnothing cup. What a shame. This is even worse than celebrating 4th place in the league

When you have 4 CL trophies let us know.

i don't see how the name of a competition matters here. this competition existed before the entire football league in germany. it has more history, more class and more clubs fighting for it than the whole league structure in germany!

it's not even a debate - man utd/liverpool have won more trophies than bayern.

dayokanu:

Classy? What a retardded statement? What is classy? Is classy the reason football clubs are playing?

2 students sit for same exams and one leads in all subjects the other is asking who is more classy?

In footballing terms Bayern schools Man Utd every day of the week and twice on weekends deal with that

We are not mates on any level

May be you have forgotten the basics of the argument. The argument is about class.

Don't you get it, if your club and league had class it would attract more followers.

elampiro: Who is talking about 50 years from now? We are talking about class or brand. Man United will remain a stronger brand over Bayern Munich. And EPL is a much renowned league than Bundesliga. After Bayern, which other Bundesliga league make wave in Europe consistently? The last ten years you have Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal always competing highly for the trophy. Anyway who watches Bundesliga. If not for German good economy nown your uninteresting classless league would die.

So its German economy that makes Man Utd inferior to Bayern

Its German economy and renowned EPL that makes Man Utd have an inferior head to head vs Bayern

Its German economy that made Bayern win 5 trophies and all your sorry club could muster is a measly 3 trophies?

Football is measured in titles won, Not the number of teenage girls who follow it.

You can hold on to that title on number of girls who watch while Bayern keep on winning titles.

coogar:

bundesliga is a one-man league.....
it's the weakest league in europe......bayern have won their league 23 times, the closest to them have won just 9 league titles(see the gaping difference). united have won it 20 times, liverpool(18 times) - you can see there's a very good competition here and you would see this closely-fought rivalry in most big leagues across europe except in germany!

Probably Bayern is making the Champions league a one team tournament too, While they keep winning trophies and you keep on winning "CLASSROOM" trophy

dayokanu:

Summing up irrelevant trophies like Carling Cup, Worthnothing cup, Emirates cup etc dont count.

The cups that count are Continental trophies League and FA cups

Its like someone claiming they won Asoju Oba cup and Principals cup

You call Carling Cup (Capital One Cup/League cup) irrelevant trophy! But you forgot that winner of the cup automatically qualifies for UEFA Europa League which is a continental competition.

elampiro:

May be you have forgotten the basics of the argument. The argument is about class.

Don't you get it, if your club and league had class it would attract more followers.

Players go to clubs where they would win, Its only pre-pubescent girls who care about which club is more sexy.

Clubs are there to win trophies its only when losers fail to win trophies that they start insane awards like Best jersey, Finest WAGS, Gayest players, etc

coogar:

bundesliga is a one-man league.....
it's the weakest league in europe......bayern have won their league 23 times, the closest to them have won just 9 league titles(see the gaping difference). united have won it 20 times, liverpool(18 times) - you can see there's a very good competition here and you would see this closely-fought rivalry in most big leagues across europe except in germany!

Exactly why Bundesliga has weak followership. Even Scottish league is more competitive, at least there are two giant clubs there fighting every year, unlike Germany where Bayern is the sole giant.

dayokanu:

Probably Bayern is making the Champions league a one team tournament too, While they keep winning trophies and you keep on winning "CLASSROOM" trophy

a title they have won once in 13 years - yes they are making it a one team tournament. united won it 99 and 2008 unbeaten - you would have to top that to even have a say. go to the arsenal thread n brag - don't come here and say nonsense!

Fabville:

You call Carling Cup (Capital One Cup/League) irrelevant trophy! But you forgot that winner of the cup automatically qualifies for UEFA Europa League which is a continental competition.

Tell us the equivalent of the Milk Cup or Worthnothing cup in other leagues

League is league, FA Cup=Kings Cup, = DFB Pokal = Coppa Italia etc

Whats Carling or Worthnothing cup? Sensible leagues dont waste their time with senseless cups

Its only a consolation for losers who cant win the league Champions league or FA Cup.

Losers Like Man Utd fans who throw parties for Milk Cup

dayokanu:

Players go to clubs where they would win, Its only pre-pubescent girls who care about which club is more sexy.

Clubs are there to win trophies its only when losers fail to win trophies that they start insane awards like Best jersey, Finest WAGS, Gayest players, etc

Players go to club where they will fill their pockets and be proud. No club can make a player so rich and famous as much as United. Beckham can hire Zidane as his employee.

dayokanu:
Tell us the equivalent of the Milk Cup or Worthnothing cup in other leagues

League is league, FA Cup=Kings Cup, = DFB Pokal = Coppa Italia etc

Whats Carling or Worthnothing cup? Sensible leagues dont waste their time with senseless cups

Its only a consolation for losers who cant win the league Champions league or FA Cup.

Losers Like Man Utd fans who throw parties for Milk Cup

it's up to your useless leagues to find the equivalent - football started in england, all these equivalents you are talking about were copied from england. so write an angry letter to bundesliga chairman to introduce the league cup. united play in it to win it and they won it 4 times. fact remains this competition existed before the bundesliga - comparing it to emirates cup or the amsterdam tournament or the audi cup tells me you lack cognitive reasoning!

elampiro: Exactly why Bundesliga has weak followership. Even Scottish league is more competitive, at least there are two giant clubs there fighting every year, unlike Germany where Bayern is the sole giant.

In Premier league era i.e Since 1992

21 League titles Man Utd won 13

In the same time frame 21 Bundesliga Bayern has won 11

Now tell us which giants are fighting for EPL when Man Utd has won over 60% of the titles

In the Premier league era

5 different teams have won the EPL

6 different teams have won the Bundesliga

elampiro: Players go to club where they will fill their pockets and be proud. No club can make a player so rich and famous as much as United. Beckham can hire Zidane as his employee.

Its obvious you are the thread jester.

Anyone who thinks clubs are rated based on how sexxy they are must be a special breed

dayokanu:

Tell us the equivalent of the Milk Cup or Worthnothing cup in other leagues

League is league, FA Cup=Kings Cup, = DFB Pokal = Coppa Italia etc

Whats Carling or Worthnothing cup? Sensible leagues dont waste their time with senseless cups

Its only a consolation for losers who cant win the league Champions league or FA Cup.

Losers Like Man Utd fans who throw parties for Milk Cup

I am talking about Carling Cup now Capital one cup/League Cup and not League. The winner of League cup automatically qualifies for UEFA Europa league. How can you call such a cup "irrelevant cup" and if that is so then Europa league cup is also "irrelevant cup" according to your reasoning

coogar:

it's up to your useless leagues to find the equivalent - football started in england, all these equivalents you are talking about were copied from england. so write an angry letter to bundesliga chairman to introduce the league cup. united play in it to win it and they won it 4 times. fact remains this competition existed before the bundesliga - comparing it to emirates cup or the amsterdam tournament or the audi cup tells me you lack cognitive reasoning!

Keep your Carling cup High

Let Bayern celebrate being Champions of Europe

Bayern- CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE

Man Utd - Milk Champions or is it Worthnothing Champions.

Very appropriate tags

dayokanu:
In Premier league era i.e Since 1992

21 League titles Man Utd won 13

In the same time frame 21 Bundesliga Bayern has won 11

Now tell us which giants are fighting for EPL when Man Utd has won over 60% of the titles

In the Premier league era

5 different teams have won the EPL

6 different teams have won the Bundesliga

this is a moronic way of looking at things - cutting from 92 tells me you have a hole in your brain. you want to use 21 football seasons to analyse the strength of a league that has 125 football seasons? the sample size is too small. why stop at 92, why not stop at 63 when bundesliga was formed? you are a fraud!!

dayokanu:
Keep your Carling cup High

Let Bayern celebrate being Champions of Europe

Bayern- CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE

Man Utd - Milk Champions or is it Worthnothing Champions.

Very appropriate tags

i can understand your joy n euphoria - this is the equivalent of a barren woman that delivered a baby boy after 13 years of failure. leap for joy, dayokanu.

dayokanu:

In Premier league era i.e Since 1992

21 League titles Man Utd won 13

In the same time frame 21 Bundesliga Bayern has won 11

Now tell us which giants are fighting for EPL when Man Utd has won over 60% of the titles

In the Premier league era

5 different teams have won the EPL

6 different teams have won the Bundesliga

So trophies won before 1992 are not relevant? Then deduct all such from Bayern trophy hall.

If you want to compare, go to the genesis.

To tell you EPL is more competitive, check the link you guys forwarded which ranked English football ahead of German.

elampiro:

Who is talking about 50 years from now? We are talking about class or brand. Man United will remain a stronger brand over Bayern Munich. And EPL is a much renowned league than Bundesliga. After Bayern, which other Bundesliga league make wave in Europe consistently? The last ten years you have Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal always competing highly for the trophy. Anyway who watches Bundesliga. If not for German good economy nown your uninteresting classless league would die.

Da phuck is class or brand? The only class and brand I recognize is trophies! Show us your UCL's FA Cups and League Titles
Bayern have more UCL's than Man U,Chelsea and Arsenal put together! So much for competition! Who cares about being renowned? Bayern have had more legends,more trophies,greater managers! Utd is Bayern's son! We no be mate rara

Saluda Campeones!

elampiro:

So trophies won before 1992 are not relevant? Then deduct all such from Bayern trophy hall.

If you want to compare, go to the genesis.

To tell you EPL is more competitive, check the link you guys forwarded which ranked English football ahead of German.

EPL is more competitive at the time Kaka was best player in the world not in 2013 when the Bundesliga rubbed your face in the mud

bundesliga is a one man club.......in terms of competition, the portugese league and the scottish league have more credibility. 23 titles to 9 titles? bloody hell! aki/paw-paw can manage bayern munich and win titles with them. the most useless league in the world!

dayokanu:
EPL is more competitive at the time Kaka was best player in the world not in 2013 when the Bundesliga rubbed your face in the mud

the premier league shytes on bundesliga - a swallow does not make a summer, this is why the club ranking cuts to 5 seasons. in the last 5 seasons, premier league sits atop bundesliga. the germans had a good outing this year like seria A did in 2003, like premier league did in 2008.

coogar:
i can understand your joy n euphoria - this is the equivalent of a barren woman that delivered a baby boy after 13 years of failure. leap for joy, dayokanu.

Bayern 5 children, Man Utd 3 children, Who is the more fertile and productive woman?

this is a moronic way of looking at things - cutting from 92 tells me you have a hole in your brain. you want to use 21 football seasons to analyse the strength of a league that has 125 football seasons? the sample size is too small. why stop at 92, why not stop at 63 when bundesliga was formed? you are a fraud!!

Since 1963 Bayern has won 5 CL titles, Man Utd has won 3.

Or do you want us to go back to the time of Moses and Pharaoh?

A-40:

Da phuck is class or brand? The only class and brand I recognize is trophies! Show us your UCL's FA Cups and League Titles
Bayern have more UCL's than Man U,Chelsea and Arsenal put together! So much for competition! Who cares about being renowned? Bayern have had more legends,more trophies,greater managers! Utd is Bayern's son! We no be mate rara

Saluda Campeones!

Are you confused? Liverpool got to 5 UCL before you. Both you and Liverpool are not worth United in the market. Where is your class?

coogar: bundesliga is a one man club.......in terms of competition, the portugese league and the scottish league have more credibility. 23 titles to 9 titles? bloody hell! aki/paw-paw can manage bayern munich and win titles with them. the most useless league in the world!

The same way we turned Europe into a one team tournament.


150th anniversary of the FA, Final in Wembley and 2 Germans giving us a spectacle on the night

Where are the EPL clubs? Crashed out before the Quarters

What a shame.

elampiro: Are you confused? Liverpool got to 5 UCL before you. Both you and Liverpool are not worth United in the market. Where is your class?

Cling on to your class, We would cling onto our trophies.

If they say what did you win this year in Europe, Tell them you won Class, We should show them we won trophies

We can show our trophy we won in Wembley while you show pictures of sexy teenage girls wearing Man Utd jersey

Shikena, Fight no dey

dayokanu:

EPL is more competitive at the time Kaka was best player in the world not in 2013 when the Bundesliga rubbed your face in the mud

You can not use one season to rate the strength of a league, else Germany will be second in the ranking. And it terms of class, United and EPL are the highest. Exactly why they attract more followers.

dayokanu:
Bayern 5 children, Man Utd 3 children, Who is the more fertile and productive woman?

you have to be absent-minded to count the ones bayern won in the 70s. that wasn't a competition then. playing the champions of cyprus, greece, san marino, etc. besides, you have to win your league to play in europe then - united face a tougher test winning it's league while bayern just need to stroll into the season and win unchallenged.

Since 1963 Bayern has won 5 CL titles, Man Utd has won 3.
Or do you want us to go back to the time of Moses and Pharaoh?

you are a tool - your sample cutting was to reinforce the point which league was more competitive, now you have changed mouths to who's won more in europe? the competition was rubbish in the 60s - you won it back to back for 3 consecutive seasons - why hasn't no team repeat that feat in the modern era?

dayokanu:


The same way we turned Europe into a one team tournament.


150th anniversary of the FA, Final in Wembley and 2 Germans giving us a spectacle on the night

Where are the EPL clubs? Crashed out before the Quarters

What a shame.

Two EPLs teams had met in finals before. That is no so normal.