Maybe one day, we'll hear Jesus masturbated. 33 years on earth without pussy, no wonder he was stoned,

This thread is interesting, please repost to the front page again! many christians are really overwhelmed and surprised

I go out, I feel a deep anger that use the name of our Savior to justify his own concupiscence, sex you can not dominate, I retired me, this is not Christian, this site belongs to Satan.

I start to wonder how many jars of vaseline petroleum jelly are crying for help from the time the pastor made this comment till now?

Funny thread. People who claim to have never masturbated, are the ones suggesting you can masturbate without thinking,

Masturbation is preceded by rubbing, you can't rub on a limp dick. What makes the dick erect?

If thoughts are sins, then while just rubbing is 'technically' not a sin according to the Bible, what precedes it is definitely a 'sin' according to the definition of sin most seem to agree on on this thread.

Thumbs to JoAgbaje, he really knows when to exit a thread,

^^^ Still reading o my brother,lol. My eyes don read something today for NL. Chai. God is merciful indeed.

I never imagined that this video I posted on YouTube would finally wake all the zombies in Christ embassy up to who this Gerry curl king preacher really is the here would you like to know all the false teaching I have on video you tell me what to post I am will do it would you like to see more false teaching videos of Christ embassy

I never imagined that this video I posted on YouTube would finally wake all the zombies in Christ embassy up to who this Gerry curl king preacher really is the here would you like to know all the false teaching I have on video you tell me what to post I am will do it would you like to see more false teaching videos of Christ embassy

I never imagined that this video I posted on YouTube would finally wake all the zombies in Christ embassy up to who this Gerry curl king preacher really is the here would you like to know all the false teaching I have on video you tell me what to post I am will do it would you like to see more false teaching videos of Christ embassy

obo_man:

Okay let's get this right.


Mas-turbation; self-stimulation of the Cores for intimate pleasure.

Why did God made the intimate urge in the first place when he knows it's a sin?

Would you also say wet dreams are sinful?

Which is better, a rapi.st, fornicator or someone that masturba.tes?

Throughout the New-testament, it wasn't mentioned nor condemned.

Someone quoted an Old-testament scripture that says 'God forbids the fluid touching the ground'. So does that means the use of condoms is sinful? (remember we throw away used condoms with our Fluid away)

Nice one my brother. Honestly it baffles me when i see people react in a dogmatic manner rather than being objextive.

You all ned to watch that clip again and really listen to the point he is making.

Apostasy watch! Coming Soon on Nairaland. Watch out.

@ Anti-PastChris,

kindly post more videos. Thanks.

Pastor, Pastor, Pastor, your words are sometimes too difficult to consume by some religious folks, but I have this to say: That to the holy brethren and sisthren, the sanctimonious and self righteous that has never done any wrong, or the Biblical and spiritual professors in the class of the Pharisees and Sadducee s; they will never accept this, the same class of people did not accept the teachings of Jesus, but saw Him as controversial and even went ahead to crucify Him.
But to the one that has been struggling with this addiction all his life and unable to come out of it. and even starts condemning Himself or herself and doesn't want to go to church or have anything to do with God anymore because of his or her shortcomings; You have just set those kind of people free from there guilt and religious bondage, and they are the once the message is for and not for the self righteous, tongue talking Nigerian spirikokos of today.

Differenr side of the same coin.

If Jesus sets free, why still suffer? why still be imprisoned in habits that are 'unclean'? All holly scriptures are open to different interpretations as is so evident on this thread.

No one has a verse that explicitly says masturbation is a sin, the others say it wasnt mentioned therefore its allowed. The latter argument may work in this case, but God knows what other habits people wilk come up with. As long as it doesnt take control of the mind, right?

May your God help you. Religion is definitely bleeped up. Christianity, Islam and their many subdivisions,

Get beyond all this crap and live a life worth living.

Thanks to the honest ones on this thread. I sign out ;-)

If anyone here can truthfully claim to have successfully masturbated while meditating in his/her heart on passages of the bible, second coming of Jesus, Good works of Jehovah or Heaven and its host of angels (as opposed to Intimate/lustful thoughts of n[b]a[/b]ked women), then i might reconsider my stand of mas[b]t[/b]urbation being a sin.

Still waiting for the first claim. No one wants to convert me?

I am not surprised that such a statement is coming out of our 'man of God'. It is only those that are spiritually blind that wont see anything .The youths that form the bulk of his congregation are the ones I pity most because they have been brainwashed and they can lay down their lives for their master. I once wrote this man for his opinion twice on his opinion on heaven and hell,but he never replied. What are the other signs of a false prophet? 1. He celebrates himself and his wife by displaying his pictures 2. You will never hear him preach the reality of heaven and hell with such pungency 3. Such preachers dwell more on God's grace and love and downplay His fiery wrath against sinners. 4 They preach more of prosperity,without its attendant conditions. 5.They preach the doctrine of 'once saved,forever saved'. 6.Lastly they have extravagant lifestyle and infuse wordliness into their congregation.

[size=15pt]I think the question now is "Does Pastor Chris mas.turb.ate?"[/size]

God knows those that serve him

The Bible does not discuss masturbation at all. This seems a little odd since it is such a strong and prevalent human event. And, given that Leviticus has so much to say about sexuality, one would think it natural that the subject would be covered. But it isn't. Masturbation is not specifically declared to be sinful. Nevertheless, we must be cautious to pronounce something to be sinful or not sinful when God has not discussed it. Therefore, we have to derive principles from scripture on related sexual issues and see if we can wisely apply them to the subject of masturbation. First of all, sex was created by God for procreative purposes, physical enjoyment, and the demonstration of intimacy between a husband and a wife. In this context, the sexual act is intended to occur in a healthy marriage relationship between husband and wife in purity and holiness. In contrast to this, masturbation is the self-stimulation to the point of sexual release without the gifting of a spouse. It would seem that masturbation is a denial of the sexual design of God for couples. But, is it sinful? Again, answering this question is difficult because the Bible does not pronounce it as sin. Nevertheless, there is the principle of purity that is obvious true. Does masturbation fall under the category of purity? We can say this for sure. If masturbation involves sexual fantasies and/or pornography, then it is certainly not pure and is very sinful. The Bible clearly teaches that our minds are as important to God as our bodies are and that we are to remain pure in both. Jesus said, "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery'; 28 but I say to you, that everyone who looks on a woman to lust for her has committed adultery with her already in his heart," ( Matt. 5:27-28). Jesus is saying that thinking lustful thoughts is sinful. Therefore, masturbation involving sexual fantasies (at least not of one's spouse) is undoubtedly sinful. But this brings up the issue of a spouse masturbating while thinking of his/her spouse. Is it sinful? Again, since the Bible does not declare it sinful, can we? Let's say that a wife is incapacitated by an accident and is in the hospital for an extended period of time. Is it alright for the husband to masturbate if he thinks only of his wife in order to relieve sexual tension? Again, without a specific declaration of scripture it is difficult pronounce it as sinful. On the one hand, his body is not his own and it is for his wife and he is not to be mastered by anything ( 1 Cor. 6:12). But on the other hand, she is not available. Would his masturbation be sinful should he commit it if he only thought of his wife? I cannot say for sure. Then again, what if someone masturbates with absolutely no sexual fantasy of any sort. Is it then sinful? Again, this is difficult to answer. But, since the Bible doesn't condemn or condone it, can we make dogmatic assertions? Furthermore, what if a person masturbates in order to reduce the sexual urge in an attempt to not commit fornication? Certainly, actual fornication would be a sin, and masturbation would be preferable in this instance. But does this mean that the person is being mastered by the flesh? If so, then that would be wrong. But, does it mean then that a self-release of sexual tension is then acceptable if it is to avoid fornication? Again, since the Bible does not declare masturbation a sin, I cannot say it is.

Legitimate1:

masturbatn is an unclean habit done in the temple of God which is the body and thus it is therefore a sin against God. Simple!

the problem with a lot of us is that we have become so used to what we used to know that we would refuse, even violently any fact against it.
Like I have explained before, it depends on whether it is done on lustful basis or just a biological need to release intimacy.ual tension. Just as it will be a sin to look at a woman and have all sorts of lustful desires as opposed to looking at her as a person and nothing more. Thesame applies to drinking, it becomes a sin when you have it to the extent it drives you to commit sin. If drinking was a sin Jesus wont turn water to wine. Christian scholars condemn it not because it is seen a seen by God but it does not edify the spirit, it does not enhance your spiritual growth and adds nothing to your spirituality instead it exposes you to the risk of commiting sin.
This issue must be discussed in context of what the bible says and prescribed and not on the basis of personal morality, sense of decency or what one sees personally as right and wrong. Regardless of what one thinks or have been taught all along, the bible prescription is what is paramount here.
The reason why everyone is shouting Pastor Chris is because he is one of the few clergy that have been bold enough to discuss this issue and instead of joining the herds of self-imposed doctrines, he rather chose to go by the facts in the bible. Anybody that has problem with the facts, should direct their anger to God and not Pastor Chris.

rhymz:

the problem with a lot of us is that we have become so used to what we used to know that we would refuse, even violently any fact against it.
Like I have explained before, it depends on whether it is done on lustful basis or just a biological need to release intimacy.ual tension. Just as it will be a sin to look at a woman and have all sorts of lustful desires as opposed to looking at her as a person and nothing more. Thesame applies to drinking, it becomes a sin when you have it to the extent it drives you to commit sin. If drinking was a sin Jesus wont turn water to wine. Christian scholars condemn it not because it is seen a seen by God but it does not edify the spirit, it does not enhance your spiritual growth and adds nothing to your spirituality instead it exposes you to the risk of commiting sin.
This issue must be discussed in context of what the bible says and prescribed and not on the basis of personal morality, sense of decency or what one sees personally as right and wrong. Regardless of what one thinks or have been taught all along, the bible prescription is what is paramount here.
The reason why everyone is shouting Pastor Chris is because he is one of the few clergy that have been bold enough to discuss this issue and instead of joining the herds of self-imposed doctrines, he rather chose to go by the facts in the bible. Anybody that has problem with the facts, should direct their anger to God and not Pastor Chris.

You have said so much about this and so have I but some of these folks cant just help but keep inventing sins in their heads. They wanna be seen to be sooooooo righteous and holy.
We dont serve a God of confusion and the Bible is so plain on all issues pertaining to us, why do we humans wanna make it complicated.

One of the reasons why Christianity is no longer as convincing as the days of old is because we are not reading our Bibles. We are too LAZY. Busy with mundane things and not giving quality time to studying our 'life manual'. Men of God are still 'men' fallible, prone to making mistakes(let God be the judge of that). Please read 1 Corinthians Chapter 6 and tell me if you still think self-service m.a.s.t.u.r.b.a.t.i.o.n is not a sin .
It is the Holy Spirit that convicts us of sin and guides us unto all truth. Now this is a reminder that EVERY CHRISTIAN ought to EARNESTLY DESIRE the baptism of the Holy Spirit. As long as we remain indolent and refuse to study the Bible on our own and allow God's Holy Spirit to minister to us, we will be victims of fellow men's misinterpretation.

Meanwhile are you still wondering what is written in 1Corinthians chapter 6? or you are waiting for me to post it? Laazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzziness is robbing us of our true identity as Christians .

Legitimate1:

masturbatn is an unclean habit done in the temple of God which is the body and thus it is therefore a sin against God. Simple!

the problem with a lot of us is that we have become so used to what we used to know that we would refuse, even violently any fact against it.
Like I have explained before, it depends on whether it is done on lustful basis or just a biological need to release intimacy.ual tension. Just as it will be a sin to look at a woman and have all sorts of lustful desires as opposed to looking at her as a person and nothing more. Thesame applies to drinking, it becomes a sin when you have it to the extent it drives you to commit sin. If drinking was a sin Jesus wont turn water to wine. Christian scholars condemn it not because it is seen a seen by God but it does not edify the spirit, it does not enhance your spiritual growth and adds nothing to your spirituality instead it exposes you to the risk of commiting sin.
This issue must be discussed in context of what the bible says and prescribed and not on the basis of personal morality, sense of decency or what one sees personally as right and wrong. Regardless of what one thinks or have been taught all along, the bible prescription is what is paramount here.
The reason why everyone is shouting Pastor Chris is because he is one of the few clergy that have been bold enough to discuss this issue and instead of joining the herds of self-imposed doctrines, he rather chose to go by the facts in the bible. Anybody that has problem with the facts, should direct their anger to God and not Pastor Chris.

What makes mas.tur.bation unclean? What about married folks who mas.tur.bate regularly? The bible at a point says curses are active up to the tenth generation of the accursed? The bible lists unclean animals in Lev.11 and also castigates Paul for not eating them in the new testament. All these seemingly contradictory loopholes would be exploited by religious fanatics to suit their purpose,The catholic priests who sold absolution of sins in the vatican used the bible to butress their works,innit? For once,the bible never mentioned mas.tur.bation in the ten commandments nor in the subsequent books nor is found in apocryphal books. If a married man died today without any children,and his younger brother who is also married wants to have sex with his late brother's wife,what would your "pastors" say? What would common sense tell you? Anybody who clearly defines mas.tur.bation out as a clear cut sin and tries to perpetuate his judgement on others as sinners for mas.tur.bating while fronting it with self induced bible injunctions is nothing short of an hypocrite,funnily,hypocrisy doesn't prevent you from crawling into a dinghy spot to mas.tur.bate then come out and spit brimstone in the faces of those that openly agree they do. If you think mas.tur.bate is a "sin" that's your problem,if you think its otherwise,that's your issue,but for the very fact that these so called "Pastors" even have contradictory views of the same thing shows that it is debatable,and its not a one-way street as some folks on here have been painting. SMHV

Konjour:

What makes mas.tur.bation unclean? What about married folks who mas.tur.bate regularly? The bible at a point says curses are active up to the tenth generation of the accursed? The bible lists unclean animals in Lev.11 and also castigates Paul for not eating them in the new testament. All these seemingly contradictory loopholes would be exploited by religious fanatics to suit their purpose,The catholic priests who sold absolution of sins in the vatican used the bible to butress their works,innit? For once,the bible never mentioned mas.tur.bation in the ten commandments nor in the subsequent books nor is found in apocryphal books. If a married man died today without any children,and his younger brother who is also married wants to Be Intimate with his late brother's wife,what would your "pastors" say? What would common sense tell you? Anybody who clearly defines mas.tur.bation out as a clear cut sin and tries to perpetuate his judgement on others as sinners for mas.tur.bating while fronting it with self induced bible injunctions is nothing short of an hypocrite,funnily,hypocrisy doesn't prevent you from crawling into a dinghy spot to mas.tur.bate then come out and spit brimstone in the faces of those that openly agree they do. If you think mas.tur.bate is a "sin" that's your problem,if you think its otherwise,that's your issue,but for the very fact that these so called "Pastors" even have contradictory views of the same thing shows that it is debatable,and its not a one-way street as some folks on here have been painting. SMHV

go ahead and tell us what it says

^^^ Tell you what who/what says?

Ewoooo, the federal government may be forced to remove 'petroleum jelly' subsidy.

*Shocked*

Konjour:

^^^ Tell you what who/what says?

i wanted to refer that to Bibanke that was quoting bible pages an verses to support his claims. . . .let him read it out to all of us before concluding

i really find it hard to believe dat people still look for ways of defending "pastor", bad teacher, ?, unclean habit, ? open ur eyes people!!!!!!! i tot he just murdered his own ministry but now i can c he's got hypnotised followers!!!!!!!