#Torreswatch update

3 good games in 15

Anyways, I can safely assume that most Chelsea folks won't be too bothered by the absence of Fernando (maybe it may even give the guy some good time off) , CA can also deputise for Ivanovic so all in all, its not all that bad.

And I think we showed character today even with 9 men we still tried to attack. RdM is doing is job so far to an extent.

on to the next one.

Hehehe. First PL loss, the moaning is already in overdrive. We cannot afford to carry a player with 2 goals, 9 assists, 83.9% pass completion rate, 2.2 key passes per game, 1.3 dribbles and arguably the most fouled player in the PL. First PL season, only 21.


I am not saying he should not defend but we cannot afford to "carry" Hazard? . . . *facepalm*

looking foward to knocking man utd out on wednesday...

No moaning here. The boys played well. A player who causes a goal against every three games should be taught a lesson. All these one about what he's contributed in easy games na yarns only because Chelsea don't have another tiki taka guy on the bench. If na Belgium him day now, rdm woulda taught him a lesson by dropping him after such a woeful defensive performance. Afterall how many times does Mourinho pull out the whip on Ozil despite his stats? Some of us don't brook such nonsense. The first goal today, he was in left -back position, he played the ball to Mata who was robbed, then he inexplicably started running upfront like he didn't just see that Mata had been robbed and he was the only man in left -back position to stop united. Second goal he was 20 yards behind Rafael directly causing the goal as Ashley had to leave Valencia to challenge Rafael. So despite all yarns, he cost us the game today. Who is he not to be taught a lesson? Is Belgium coach mad? Maybe he should start putting in more efforts like the players who are "built like towers"

Do I need to update the goalscorers stats to see how Torres is faring among EPL strikers?

We would have skinned them but Mark Clattenberg just had to earn his payoff.
Can any decent United fan even enjoy such a win?

So proud of the lads, everybody apart from the dud gave 100%.
As for the other Spaniard, good riddance, i wish he got a straight red.

As far as i'm concerned we have been playing with 10 men throughout the season.
What a waste of space. Even Lukaku is putting up a decent performance on loan.

BlueDiva: We would have skinned them but Mark Clattenberg just had to earn his payoff.
Can any decent United fan even enjoy such a win?

how many chelsea players were on the pitch in the first half when united got 2 goals?

So proud of the lads, everybody apart from the dud gave 100%.
As for the other Spaniard, good riddance, i wish he gets a straight red.

who is the other spaniard? ibime?

As far as i'm concerned we have been playing with 10 men throughout the season.
What a waste of space. Even Lukaku is putting up a decent performance on loan.

nothing like that - di matteo was very silly
united have no fit defenders but they are loaded in the attack department - common sense should have told di matteo united were coming to go "gung ho" - in the previous duels, united play a lone striker @ the bridge....

di matteo must have seen united's line up one hour before the match to see fergie's intentions but he did nothing! he should have taken the steam out of united's graggs - giving those 2 goals away so early cost chelsea big time. you don't give united a 2 goal lead and not get punished at this level!

El Guapo: Ibime, There's Jxt One remarkable decrepitude trait u'l sure spot in most Classy skillful Players and thats 'Defending Flaws' - Iniesta, Neymar, Ozil, Messi, Gotze, i Could go On to Mention NameS - So Hazard aint an exception.

Sorry iniesta, gotze and messi do not belong with lazy sods like Ozil and neymar.

That's what separates great players from others and why likes of Ozil will get dropped in tough games and neymar should be dropped in some games also.

You have boys like cazorla, kagawa and such who also hustle.

I could go on and on.

Mata cannot tackle to save his life but I can't remember the last time a full back got the run on him to cause a goal.

Everygame these days we always see hazard ten yards behind a right back before seeing Chelsea concede a goal.

I remember that Joe Cole literally won Chelsea the 05/06 championship yet JM continued putting pressure in him.

Hazard needs to come under the same.

A player causing 4 goals directly in just 14 matches is unacceptable statistics. I am sure there are more than 4 sef. These are just the ones I remember directly.

If you don't teach this boy now he will never learn. How come we haven't seen such goals coming down Matas wing this season? Mata had to learn all of this last year.

El Guapo: Ibime, There's Jxt One remarkable decrepitude trait u'l sure spot in most Classy skillful Players and thats 'Defending Flaws' - Iniesta, Neymar, Ozil, Messi, Gotze, i Could go On to Mention NameS - So Hazard aint an exception.

Sorry iniesta, gotze and messi do not belong with lazy sods like Ozil and neymar.

That's what separates great players from others and why likes of Ozil will get dropped in tough games and neymar should be dropped in some games also.

You have boys like cazorla, kagawa and such who also hustle.

I could go on and on.

Mata cannot tackle to save his life but I can't remember the last time a full back got the run on him to cause a goal.

Everygame these days we always see hazard ten yards behind a right back before seeing Chelsea concede a goal.

I remember that Joe Cole literally won Chelsea the 05/06 championship yet JM continued putting pressure in him.

Hazard needs to come under the same.

A player causing 4 goals directly in just 14 matches is unacceptable statistics. I am sure there are more than 4 sef. These are just the ones I remember directly.

If you don't teach this boy now he will never learn. How come we haven't seen such goals coming down Matas wing this season? Mata had to learn all of this last year.

chamotex: I have to give it to Chelsea with the way they played with 9 men.
If it was the other way round, we would have been battered.
Well done Chelsea!

I heard we were robbed. *sobs*

Tgirl4real:

I heard we were robbed. *sobs*

No ma

Lool I predict Torres would have a good game and he goes on to have a red card. Lol biggest scam ever!


U guys should beg Abrahamovich to sell one of his yachts and just buy Falcao! What a beauty he just scored for Athletico!

coogar:

how many chelsea players were on the pitch in the first half when united got 2 goals?

That's mot the point. You had two early goals and that was it.
United played poorly and needed poor officiating to rescue them.

who is the other spaniard? ibime?

The dud

nothing like that - di matteo was very silly
united have no fit defenders but they are loaded in the attack department - common sense should have told di matteo united were coming to go "gung ho" - in the previous duels, united play a lone striker @ the bridge....

di matteo must have seen united's line up one hour before the match to see fergie's intentions but he did nothing! he should have taken the steam out of united's graggs - giving those 2 goals away so early cost chelsea big time. you don't give united a 2 goal lead and not get punished at this level!

It's not about playing gong ho, you guys were pissy poor, outclassed and outplayed most of the game.
Only Van P and Young had a decent game. De Gea was fantastic also.

Take away poor officiating and it would have been a different matter.

Ibime: No moaning here. The boys played well. A player who causes a goal against every three games should be taught a lesson. All these one about what he's contributed in easy games na yarns only because Chelsea don't have another tiki taka guy on the bench. If na Belgium him day now, rdm woulda taught him a lesson by dropping him after such a woeful defensive performance. Afterall how many times does Mourinho pull out the whip on Ozil despite his stats? Some of us don't brook such nonsense. The first goal today, he was in left -back position, he played the ball to Mata who was robbed, then he inexplicably started running upfront like he didn't just see that Mata had been robbed and he was the only man in left -back position to stop united. Second goal he was 20 yards behind Rafael directly causing the goal as Ashley had to leave Valencia to challenge Rafael. So despite all yarns, he cost us the game today. Who is he not to be taught a lesson? Is Belgium coach mad? Maybe he should start putting in more efforts like the players who are "built like towers"

In short, Eden Hazard cost us the game. Okay, that's a new one.
Should I already include him on the list of players you moan about?

What JM does should not come into this for the very reason that we are not employing JM tactics. Maybe it's a tactic by RDM to relieve Hazard of too much defensive work to effectively launch a counter when the need arises, we don't know. All these yarns about not "carrying" Hazard is ridiculous bro. Go have a cold drink and relax.

Like I pointed out previously, I am not for any player who cannot put in a shift but to think that Eden Hazard cost us the game? I know when I am not feeling too well and I need to lie down.

BlueDiva:
That's mot the point. You had two early goals and that was it.
United played poorly and needed poor officiating to rescue them.

scoring 2 in the first 15 mins against chelsea is not a small feat - not even barcelona could achieve that - that was the plan anyways just like we did newcastle some weeks back! hit chelsea with the double blows, soak up the pressure till half time but the idiotic rooney ruined our plans!

The dud

he had nothing to feed on!

It's not about playing gong ho, you guys were pissy poor, outclassed and outplayed most of the game. Only Van P and Young had a decent game. De Gea was fantastic also.

pissy poor teams don't score 2 goals against the mighty chelsea!

Take away poor officiating and it would have been a different matter.

which poor officiating?
ivanovic denying a goal scoring opportunity or torres diving to cop a 2nd yellow? hernandez's goal was from an offside position but united would have certainly scored a 3rd goal if the referee had disallowed hernandez's goal. we stopped attacking after the 3rd goal!

Too bad ref had to spoil it. . . Cant complain. . . we have got the luck of the refs in this fixture in previous games. But this was too much man. Oh well.. . . . Just had to be United. . .

We better kick em out of the cup next week. . . Bar any United supporting ref officiating!. . .

ATleast Torres is banned for that game. .

coogar:

which poor officiating?
ivanovic denying a goal scoring opportunity or torres diving to cop a 2nd yellow? hernandez's goal was from an offside position but united would have certainly scored a 3rd goal if the referee had disallowed hernandez's goal. we stopped attacking after the 3rd goal!

You are better than this.
How can you even claim there was no contact? It was Torres that was fouled and you know it.

Now playing with 10 men is not the same as playing with 9 men.
If we had 10 men, Hernandez wouldn't have scored in the first place.

BlueDiva:

You are better than this.
How can you even claim there was no contact? It was Torres that was fouled and you know it.

Now playing with 10 men is not the same as playing with 9 men.
If we had 10 men, Hernandez wouldn't have scored in the first place.

but you conceded 2 goals with 11 men, no?
you need "ogun-eje"

nateevs:


In short, Eden Hazard cost us the game. Okay, that's a new one.
Should I already include him on the list of players you moan about?

What JM does should not come into this for the very reason that we are not employing JM tactics. Maybe it's a tactic by RDM to relieve Hazard of too much defensive work to effectively launch a counter when the need arises, we don't know. All these yarns about not "carrying" Hazard is ridiculous bro. Go have a cold drink and relax.

Like I pointed out previously, I am not for any player who cannot put in a shift but to think that Eden Hazard cost us the game? I know when I am not feeling too well and I need to lie down.

Thank you sir, honeestly, I thought that Ibime had a good understanding of the beautiful sports, but the dude just goofed. Hazard has one of the best statistics so far and faulting an AM for lack of defensive flairs is just funny.

@Coogar, how could you say Torres dove when there was a contact, in that case Young did same too, he had lost balance and there is no way he could have scored. The thing is that Ref killed what would have been one of the best premier league matches in recent times. Man U's win is laughable. Though they won the match, Chelsea won the hearts of football fans around the world. Justice will be served on Wednesday.

So how did the dud perform today

And how is his goal returns compared to other EPL strikers?

High_Chief:
@Coogar, how could you say Torres dove when there was a contact, in that case Young did same too, he had lost balance and there is no way he could have scored.

contact meant shyte---when ashley young was crucified last season for diving, there was contact. torres made the contact and hurled himself to the floor to con the ref. watch it again and see rio's reaction as nando dived.....it was a smart dive intended to con the ref!
ashley young runs like he's got a hump on his back - he never runs straight! if young had lost balance and he was about to fall, ivanovic should have stopped running then and allow young to fall!

The thing is that Ref killed what would have been one of the best premier league matches in recent times. Man U's win is laughable. Though they won the match, Chelsea won the hearts of football fans around the world. Justice will be served on Wednesday.

the only bad decision was hernandez's goal - chelsea won a league title from drogba's offside position goal some seasons ago - this stuff evens out so stop crying! we shall meet again on wednesday to teach you more lessons!

nateevs:


In short, Eden Hazard cost us the game. Okay, that's a new one.
Should I already include him on the list of players you moan about?

What JM does should not come into this for the very reason that we are not employing JM tactics. Maybe it's a tactic by RDM to relieve Hazard of too much defensive work to effectively launch a counter when the need arises, we don't know. All these yarns about not "carrying" Hazard is ridiculous bro. Go have a cold drink and relax.

Like I pointed out previously, I am not for any player who cannot put in a shift but to think that Eden Hazard cost us the game? I know when I am not feeling too well and I need to lie down.

Guy face front abeg. I don't know who brought you into this conversation.

Was it RDM tactics for Hazard to inexplicably start running forward with no sense of danger at all when Mata lost possession on the first goal. So was he running to start another counterattack despite the fact he was the deepest defender on the left hand side?

If it was not his duty to chase Rafael why did he chase him all the way albeit 2 seconds too late?

Was it RDM tactics that got him dropped by Belgium manager for the very same thing?

I would never accept laissez faire behaviour from Chelsea player unless he is Maradona.

I don't need to dislike a player to point out the obvious. That's why FBS said "Hazard -2" during the match cos he knows who was responsible.

Now get your uninvited self off ma posts.

Shameless victory by Manure yet,some agbayas still dey try tell us say ref no goof

coogar:

but you conceded 2 goals with 11 men, no?
you need "ogun-eje"

WTF does that mean?
2 early goals before we had time to settle.

After then what happened? We played you like we were playing high school kids.
Check out the gif i posted and repeat that Torres dived. I'm hoping you have some honour.

Nando played well, fizzed in a few dangerous crosses and pulled out an outstanding save out of De Gea.

If not for Clattentwat's antics Nando was destined to score the winner.

BlueDiva:
WTF does that mean?
2 early goals before we had time to settle.

had time to settle on your own turf?
i see - its not like chelsea knew they were playing united today.....they only got the memo this morning so they were still trying to settle after kick off!

After then what happened? We played you like we were playing high school kids.
Check out the gif i posted and repeat that Torres dived. I'm hoping you have some honour.

we were 2 goals up away from home - of course, we expected pressure from the home side especially with the way your zombie fans were clamouring for a freekick every time a chelsea player hit the deck......chelsea got 2 goals which was also expected and then united switched to the 3rd gear - van persie split chelsea defence with a killer pass - ashley young bearing on chelsea's goal....and he was brought down....whose fault was that?

the gif you put up has confirmed my statement that torres dived. he nutmegged evans and made the contact with evans foot before hurling himself down. when a striker nutmegs a defender, he runs to avoid any contact from the defender.....torres knew what he was doing!

coogar:

the gif you put up has confirmed my statement that torres dived. he nutmegged evans and made the contact with evans foot before hurling himself down. when a striker nutmegs a defender, he runs to avoid any contact from the defender.....torres knew what he was doing!

LOOOOOOOOOOL. . . All i can say lol

coogar:
the gif you put up has confirmed my statement that torres dived. he nutmegged evans and made the contact with evans foot before hurling himself down. when a striker nutmegs a defender, he runs to avoid any contact from the defender.....torres knew what he was doing!

Sharapp there

Even Ikpeba confirmed it


Victor Ikpeba: "I think it was his fastness was too mush!"

coogar:
the gif you put up has confirmed my statement that torres dived. he nutmegged evans and made the contact with evans foot before hurling himself down. when a striker nutmegs a defender, he runs to avoid any contact from the defender.....torres knew what he was doing!

What? When Evans went directly for his shin?
Torres is a muppet no doubt but he was clearly fouled, i give that to him.

Enjoy your dubious win, it will surely find you guys out.