AdisaOwala:


Let's even disagree to agree on Pastore, whose fault was it that Cambiasso and Javier Zanetti - 2 midfielders in excellent form at that time, were left out of the World cup?

Like I said earlier, blame Maradona Biko!

And to think they could line up like this with

Higuain

Di Maria

Diego Milito

Mascherano

All on the bench?

The kinda players Argentina had in 2010 - them suppose wipe Maradonna Oraimo cord for neck for failing to achieve anything tangible.

Ibime:


Zanetti is not a midfielder

Whether by design or by coaches confusion, Argentina did not have the balance to win. There is nothing like golden generation without balance. C'est fini

airmark:


VVD, Kante, Pulisic, Haaland, Reece, Thiago Silva, all won the most glamorous club competition in the world, Ucl, after I hyped them.

This is a working clock, but you are blind and misled by a one-eyed Raumdeuter.

raumdeuter:


Last week too they grabbed a late winner

Their luck will soon runout

timbros:


Evidently you cannot prove that you started hyping Kante before we all know him.

Can we try another person in this list?

Please show us where you started hyping Pulisic in his youth days at PA Classics. At least he was there till 2015. I know him from his BVB days and I'm sure others do too.

But since you claim you started hyping him before stardom, can you please provide evidence of you spotting this young talent in PA Classics and hyping him here.....

AdisaOwala:


If we are to critically assess the 2 English sides in terms of talent/player quality, the older Generation trumps this current crop of players....

The failures of them Rooney and co dey very embarrassing tbvh but they weren't the only ones : the Argentina team 2006 -2010 readily comes to mind.

Prime messi failed miserably with them Prime Tevez/Aguero etc that year but won world cup with them McAllister and co...

E dey happen

oliverano:


You don't win tournaments by having world class strikers though it could play a part. In fact you could win by having a world class defence than having a world class attack. Greece (2004) is a classic example but there are other examples.

Preferably, a balance team will win you tournaments or at least get you to the final.

Argentina never had a balanced team. It was always world class attack, weak midfield and a mid central defence.

Prime Aguero, Messi, Dimaria, Tevez had....2010...Jonas Gutierrez; a Newcastle winger starting as a RB. You're not winning spoon with that. They had no world class starting CB. There was Zanetti but the coach thought otherwise.

A team with a world class defence will always do better than a team with world class attack in just about any tournament including December league.

Prime Messi failed because they lacked a balance team!

Ballzproblem2:
how ironic not saying he is a flop but is caicedo worth the fee we paid? the way people were drumming for him you will think he will lift us from tenth to fifth.

oliverano:


You don't win tournaments by having world class strikers though it could play a part. In fact you could win by having a world class defence than having a world class attack. Greece (2004) is a classic example but there are other examples.

Preferably, a balanced team will win you tournaments or at least get you to the final.

Argentina never had a balanced team. It was always world class attack, weak midfield and a mid central defence.

Prime Aguero, Messi, Dimaria, Tevez had....2010...Jonas Gutierrez; a Newcastle winger starting as a RB. You're not winning spoon with that. They had no world class starting CB. There was Zanetti but the coach thought otherwise.

A team with a world class defence will always do better than a team with world class attack in just about any tournament including December league.

Prime Messi failed because they lacked a balance team!

iamoyindamola:

He’s forgotten the money teytey na
When you declared yourself church rat😂😂😂

BlueRayDick:


I don write am off na. Remember u declared nairaland bankruptcy and ur debt was forgiven

Itsmedozie:

You no go like make I pay you?
Like seriously?

Caicedobets:
the club overpaid for my boy His true worth should be 70 M max

Jodera:
Whether due to complacency or whatever, the fact is that as a "golden generation", they ought to qualify for any major competition and qualify from the group stage at the very least. That's the least expected of a "golden generation" and they fvcked it up. That's a big blemish on their standard no matter the excuse anyone wants to bring.

I also believe you're not getting the reason for this discussion. I'm not debating who has more talents individually. Raum.deuter said the reason why he won't class the England generation as "golden" is because they have other generation teams at that same time who were more "golden" than they were compared to this present ones whom their country counterparts have less quality players compared to England(of now) but you disagreed saying that this team flops once they meet their mates just like the England of old.

So my point is, this team are better compared to England of old because they qualify for major competitions and have even gone far compared to the other generation whose highest achievement is Q/F or who fails anytime they meet their mates.

Unlimited22:
Guys there's this argument that's been raging on Twitter since last night, and I'd love to hear y'all thoughts.

KDB or Kaka?

Unlimited22:
Guys there's this argument that's been raging on Twitter since last night, and I'd love to hear y'all thoughts.



KDB or Kaka?

AdisaOwala:


Let's even disagree to agree on Pastore, whose fault was it that Cambiasso and Javier Zanetti - 2 midfielders in excellent form at that time, were left out of the World cup?

Like I said earlier, blame Maradona Biko!

And to think they could line up like this with

Higuain

Di Maria

Diego Milito

Mascherano

All on the bench?

The kinda players Argentina had in 2010 - them suppose wipe Maradonna Oraimo cord for neck for failing to achieve anything tangible.

Unlimited22:
Guys there's this argument that's been raging on Twitter since last night, and I'd love to hear y'all thoughts.



KDB or Kaka?

airmark:


Stop embarrassing yourself.

Who among Krychowiak, Maximin, Belotti, that you and your boss, Raumdeuter, claimed I jinxed, did I hype in their youth days at PA classics?

Can't you see that you are already exonerating me?

Unlimited22:
Guys there's this argument that's been raging on Twitter since last night, and I'd love to hear y'all thoughts.



KDB or Kaka?

Unlimited22:
Guys there's this argument that's been raging on Twitter since last night, and I'd love to hear y'all thoughts.



KDB or Kaka?

Griffon:


What I think Ibime is trying to establish is that the Argentine team even with or without Maradona had some midfield deficiencies, one every single top manager would have had issues sorting out at that time.

You mentioned the omission of Zanetti (who thrived mainly as an RB) and Cambiasso, good defensive midfielders no doubt but certainly not CMs - still goes to make Ibime’s point.

I’m beginning to see it for what it is, they had no traditional CMs in that squad. Just bunch of defensive, brutal DMs and a pool of attacking players.

There was no link, no true playmaker that would have been at the center of all different build-up patterns of play. One to recycle possession, keep the ball while drawing opponents out of position and ultimately allowing the rest of Messi, Tevez, Aguero, Pastore etc to penetrate, create chances and score goals.

Ibime:


See am na, where is the midfield here. Not a single CM amongst them, and a CB who has long since pafuka as a DM playing DM. Why won't they chop 4-0. Many names on paper does not make a team. This team is useless and midfield is nonexistent

AdisaOwala:


If you check Ibime's initial Post, the premise of the discussion started with the bolded:



At least you yourself don squash the DM part by yourself..

As stated in my previous response to you, there is tangible evidence that pastore coulda done a decent job at CM - that Argentina team didn't necessarily need a xavi or Scholes to deliver the goods.

The absence of a Pirlo/lampard or Gerrard kinda midfielder shouldn't be the reason why prime messi and folks should lose scandalously/Fire blanks vs Meterseckar and Frederich

Ibime:


Your understanding of midfield work is not developed enough so I left you to it.

What is absence of Pirlo/Lampard/Gerrard got to do with absence of CM?

The 2nd midfielder (CM) is not a Lampard/Gerrard type. The second midfielder is an Essien, a Xavi, A Ballack or a Seydou Keita. Most teams have 3 regular midfielders but Argentina had Mascherano and a big chasm of space to Messi. Of course they had no midfield and deservedly got walloped

AdisaOwala:


And for the umpeeth time, I have shown that Maradona had the resources to close the gaps but for whatever reasons, he decided not to...

Baba, I ask again for the 20th time, is it the absence of a Seydou keita-esque midfielder that made prime messi, Tevez, Higuain etc fire blanks vs mediocre defenders like Metersecker and Frederich?

BlueRayDick:


On top Bet Wey u lose in 2019?

It’s almost 5 years bro .

Itsmedozie:

You will respect your elder son
What's is passed is in the past.