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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:27pm On Oct 15, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Airmark, u don fûck up, we for ask Ibime whether Hazard don play better thru pass give our striker, na ds kind question we for take win anoda 100 pounds. He'll prolly tell us Hazard has never done that, na only DE bruyne dey do am cheesy grin

grin grin grin

Airmark want start fight with that GIF na him make I ignore am. He fabricated a claim that no one made and went on to disprove the claim himself. grin.

I like the way Raumdeuter answered him that we can also find gifs of Fellaini dribbling doesn't make Fellaini a dribbler so I left am there.

If you like that gif of Hazard making those first time passes, that means you should be demanding more of that from him.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 11:28pm On Oct 15, 2017
Ibime:


This debate should be about whether Hazards dribbling is more effective than KDBs first time passing, not whether Hazard can compete with KDB in first-time passing. He can't. The only player with anything close to KDBs vision in the current era is Fabregas.

Do you know I sometimes watch Hazard 90 mins match and won't see a single cross? Sometimes it makes me wonder if he is a winger.

Last time I checked their Belgium goals + assists record 6 months ago or so, KDB was slightly ahead in less matches. I don't know what transpired in the last 6 months but I'm surprised that you are confidently claiming Hazards record is better without checking. Yes, Hazard had a better Euros but World Cup was a different story.

Belgium national team
Hazard 20 goals
KDB 12 goals
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:28pm On Oct 15, 2017
Obere4u:

Stat wise. Lamps is better than baby face iniesta.

When using Stat to prove KDB is better hazard, same will be used for Lamp and Iniesta.
By the way, Hazard is out scoring KDB in their national team.

Hazard has played more games for their NT, Hazard is their penalty taker
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:29pm On Oct 15, 2017
Obere4u:


Belgium national team
Hazard 20 goals
KDB 12 goals

Add assists
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:29pm On Oct 15, 2017
Ibime:


This debate should be about whether Hazards dribbling is more effective than KDBs first time passing, not whether Hazard can compete with KDB in first-time passing. He can't. The only player with anything close to KDBs vision in the current era is Fabregas.

Do you know I sometimes watch Hazard 90 mins match and won't see a single cross? Sometimes it makes me wonder if he is a winger.

Last time I checked their Belgium goals + assists record 6 months ago or so, KDB was slightly ahead in less matches. I don't know what transpired in the last 6 months but I'm surprised that you are confidently claiming Hazards record is better without checking. Yes, Hazard had a better Euros but World Cup was a different story.

Why should you limit their contribution for NT to the last 6 months? Did they start playing for the NT in 6 months?

I can see you've clearly Ignored the part where Hazard was preferred to him in Chelsea, he was so good, he was always loaned out till he got sold while Hazard registered himself as the best player for the team.

Just because KDB is better at passing is the same way Hazard is heads over heels better than him in dribbling.

Their style of play is different. I'll take Hazard over him anytime, anyday. Compare him and Fabregas, not Hazard.

EOD
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:30pm On Oct 15, 2017
diggz:



Chaiiiii.... cheesy cheesy

Cc CapitalCee, Raumdeuter,Debroslink,Neymar1095

Please, is the above post correct about iniesta?

At 22 Iniesta won the CL final, By age 24 Iniesta won the Euro cup, At 25yrs Iniesta drove daggers into the heart of millions of shakpe fans carrying his team into the CL final which they won

By 26yrs Iniesta scored the world cup winning goal, At 27yrs Iniesta won another CL final providing an assist in the final

Abeg how old is Hidden Hazard?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 11:31pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:


Hazard has played more games for their NT, Hazard is their penalty taker
I know that.
KDB is good but that doesn't make hazard as bad as you want us to believe
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:32pm On Oct 15, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Why should you limit their contribution for NT to the last 6 months? Did they start playing for the NT in 6 months?

I can see you've clearly Ignored the part where Hazard was preferred to him in Chelsea, he was so good, he was always loaned out till he got sold while Hazard registered himself as the best player for the team.

Just because KDB is better at passing is the same way Hazard is heads over heels better than him in dribbling.

Their style of play is different. I'll take Hazard over him anytime, anyday. Compare him and Fabregas, not Hazard.

EOD

Read and understand. I said 6 months ago, KDB stats were higher. I have not followed Belgian NT for the last 6 months so I don't know if Hazard has overtaken him since then, however I'm surprised you assume this to be the case without even checking.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:32pm On Oct 15, 2017
Obere4u:


Belgium national team
Hazard 20 goals
KDB 12 goals

Hazard 81 games 20 goals(4 Penalties) 22 assists

De Bruyne 56 games 13 goals(2 penalties) 24 assists
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:34pm On Oct 15, 2017
Obere4u:

I know that.
KDB is good but that doesn't make hazard as bad as you want us to believe

Actually he puts Hazard to shame

The excuse before was KdB didnt play in the same league, Now they are in the same league and KdB shiiits on Hidden hazard Influenza take-ne Hazard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by atheist5(m): 11:34pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:



Iniesta is a CL world cup and Euro final MOTM tell us about Hidden Pius Ikedia Hazard
bros abeg face front abeg,na iniesta VS lampard i dey talk
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by atheist5(m): 11:34pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:


Actually he puts Hazard to shame

The excuse before was KdB didnt play in the same league, Now they are in the same league and KdB shiiits on Hidden hazard Influenza take-ne Hazard
why has kDB not won the league with city? since he shits on hazard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:37pm On Oct 15, 2017
Belgian team record:

KDB - 13 goals + 24 assists in 56 games = 37 goal contribution = 0.66 per game

Hazard - 20 goals + 22 assists in 81 games = 42 goal contribution = 0.52 per game
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:37pm On Oct 15, 2017
obainojazz:
shocked Iniesta, 126 CL apperance and only 11 goals to show. raumdeuter no get right to call hazard again. kee me somebori.

Iniesta 3 CL 1 world cup 2 Euro cups

Hazard ? FIll in the gaps
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:37pm On Oct 15, 2017
Ibime:


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Airmark want start fight with that GIF na him make I ignore am. He fabricated a claim that no one made and went on to disprove the claim himself. grin.

I like the way Raumdeuter answered him that we can also find gifs of Fellaini dribbling doesn't make Fellaini a dribbler so I left am there.

If you like that gif of Hazard making those first time passes, that means you should be demanding more of that from him.

The Hazard I know is well capable of doing that, these players' game-plays aren't the same. While KDB might be training to perfect his passing. Hazard might be training to be a better dribbler and he does that to devastating effect. They actually both do.

I have seen Hazard sprayed accurate passes from the left wing to the right wing, I have seen Hazard passed to Costa, Fabregas et al.

If Hazard and DE bruyne has to switch teams today. Man city will be too hot to handle.

Twll me who KDB would be giving his one time passes grin grin grin I want to know.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:38pm On Oct 15, 2017
atheist5:
bros abeg face front abeg,na iniesta VS lampard i dey talk

Any angle you go you are getting disgraced

Iniesta 3 CL 1 world cup 2 Euro cups MOTM in CL world cup and euro finals

Tell us about Fat Frank?

WHat has Lampard achieved outside Romans billions
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:40pm On Oct 15, 2017
Ibime:


Read and understand. I said 6 months ago, KDB stats were higher. I have not followed Belgian NT for the last 6 months so I don't know if Hazard has overtaken him since then, however I'm surprised you assume this to be the case without even checking.

Good thing you've researched and posted it yourself. He hasn't been soooo soooo better than Hazard for the NT sef, so what are we talking about.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by atheist5(m): 11:42pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:


Any angle you go you are getting disgraced

Iniesta 3 CL 1 world cup 2 Euro cups MOTM in CL world cup and euro finals

Tell us about Fat Frank?

WHat has Lampard achieved outside Romans billions
what has iniesta achieved outside xavi?gotze1i world cup final goal better than ronaldo
and final by your akamu logic

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:44pm On Oct 15, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Good thing you've researched and posted it yourself. He hasn't been soooo soooo better than Hazard for the NT sef, so what are we talking about.

You were the one who came here with confidence to ask what has KDB done for Belgium, not me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:45pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:


Has that resulted in more than 2 CL goals from open play?

In the below Bayern lineup Neuer Kimmich Boateng Hummels Alaba Vidal Thiago robben Ribery Muller Lewandosky Sub- James, Coman

Hazard has only outscored Neuer from open play in the CL

Try again, you weren't talking about ucl goals when you foolishly claimed that his dribbling do not result to goals.

We showed you that his dribbling not only disgraced your legends but also led to a sweet goal.

Open your brain, understand and agree first, don't jump to ucl goals yet.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:47pm On Oct 15, 2017
atheist5:
what has iniesta achieved outside xavi?gotze1i world cup final goal better than ronaldo
and final by your akamu logic

Without Xavi, Iniesta won the treble in 2015

I say you are getting disgraced

So twist am around again
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 11:48pm On Oct 15, 2017
Ibime:


Add assists

Hazard 42 goals+assist
KDB 38 goals+assist
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:49pm On Oct 15, 2017
Obere4u:


Hazard 42 goals+assist
KDB 38 goals+assist

Divide by no of games played cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:49pm On Oct 15, 2017
Chelseafan1:
Try again, you weren't talking about ucl goals when you foolishly claimed that his dribbling do not result to goals.

We showed you that his dribbling not only disgraced your legends but also led to a sweet goal.

Open your brain, understand and agree first, don't jump to ucl goals yet.

CL is the biggest club competition, World cup is the biggest NT competition.

Hazard has failed miserably at both
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:50pm On Oct 15, 2017
Obere4u:


Hazard 42 goals+assist
KDB 38 goals+assist

And when you factor in the number of games played you still discover Hazard is a failed player. If you now remove penalties from it it will show Hazard is no better then Wilfriend Zaha
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:50pm On Oct 15, 2017
Ibime:


You were the one who came here with confidence to ask what has KDB done for Belgium, not me.


Don't dwell on that. Recent Qualifiers, how many goals and assists has he recorded? WC, Euros, what did he do?

Let KDB and Hazard switch sides today, Hazard to City, KDB to Chelsea, let KDB start passing to Bakayoko, Willian, Batshuayi, let's see if you would still be full of praise for him.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:51pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:


They are playing in the same league for the past 3 seasons, compare their goals and assists in the same league, thats despite KdB playing deeper
see. Changing d subject as usual. I dnt hv time 4 this.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:51pm On Oct 15, 2017
Ibime:
See Bonucci marking Icardi like an amateur. It's like his village people are the ones who engineered this move to Milan.

Shebi when he was playing in community defence Juventus. People were swearing with his name.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:51pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:


CL is the biggest club competition, World cup is the biggest NT competition.

Hazard has failed miserably at both

Oga go sleep. I don't have time for this nonsense.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:52pm On Oct 15, 2017
Greatihex:
see. Changing d subject as usual. I dnt hv time 4 this.

What was the initial subject? That KdB is a more productive and sensible player than Hidden Hazard. If you dont understand then ask questions
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:52pm On Oct 15, 2017
Chelseafan1:
Oga go sleep. I don't have time for this nonsense.

Even in your sleep Hazard failure go still pursue you reach there
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:54pm On Oct 15, 2017
airmark:


Let him just go elsewhere. We have barca, united, bayern, psg, arsenal threads.

Imagine someone quoting stats of a player playing in burnthisleaguedown and comparing it with the one in epl. The same burnthisleaguedown that called chicharito their league idol?

Make him just rest him case and go. I know people like watching a lunatic displaying his artistry, but sometimes it becomes boring.

Actually when we consider the stats of KdB and Hazard in the EPL alone since Kevin got to England. Its a disgrace for Hazard. It buttresses how useless Hidden is

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