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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 3:41pm On Oct 15, 2013
coogar:

dayo is a disgrace.....
as a right back, gary neville was better than lahm. as a left back, lahm(at best) = ashley cole. i won't even mention rio, terry, woodgate, etc.

I don't know about Gary Neville though. grin grin grin

And Neuer is not a shiite goalie.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 3:48pm On Oct 15, 2013
coogar: neuer is the shittiest goalie in western europe....

And you think anyone takes your opinion seriously. You should sit side by side with Ali Baba and Basket mouth


lahm is not better than ashley cole - he's just lucky to be born a german. if lahm was english, he couldn't have given more than ashley has offered england.

LOL. Only a loon would put Lahm and Ashley on the same level. Ashley Cole is inferior to Alaba never mind Phillip Lahm

2 weeks ago Lahm sodomising EPLs finest





lahm & hummels? very strong!!! however, you need more than 2 pieces to form a defensive unit. boateng is the same as matt upson & ryan shawcross is better than schmelzer.
Mention how many countries have a better defensive back 4 than Germany. Boateng is currently better than any English CB and thats not even up for debate.


you are a lunatic! if the sneijder team that destroyed brazil in the last world cup had faced germany, nazism would have been brought back to europe. robben would have made a minced-meat out of lahm or any zombie tasked to mark him.

These tales of If my granny had a peenis he would have been my grandpa.

DIdnt Germany and Holland play at the Last Euros what was the result?

Germany topped the group and Holland was last after being sodomised by Germany
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:49pm On Oct 15, 2013
coogar: for starters, they have a shyte keeper. there's room for improvement though but it seems neuer has lost that precocious ability of his when he was at schalke.

germany have no good defenders - relatively to the other departments of their team, their defence is too weak. their midfield is world class & the attack is very decent.

against the spains, brazils, italys & netherlands, etc they would get eaten alive. on another continent apart from europe, they have a zero chance of winning it.

You're confusing starters with tis ya criticisms cheesy

Neuer is a good kid. Even the Netherlands, Spains, Brazils, Englands etc wouldnt boast of such safe hand in a longtime. Inasmuch as the defence is a suspect, i think there are decent personnels down that department. I'd personally set them up this way Lahm [Rb] Boateng [CB] Hummels [CB] Schmelzer [LB] -- Gundogan [DM] Schwiensteiger [DM] -- Reus [RM] Muller [AM] Ozil [LM] -- Gomez [CF].

Nice team that can shyte on any turf.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 3:52pm On Oct 15, 2013
Take out Gomez and move Muller to the top with Kroos in the midfield
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 3:55pm On Oct 15, 2013
Katsumoto:
I don't know about Gary Neville though. grin grin grin

the same treble-winner? the same diminutive neville that made beckham a demi-god in england? 400 caps for united, about 80+ for england. i don't want to mention the number of his league titles & other honours....


And Neuer is not a shiite goalie.

compare him to de gea, mignolet, boruc, stelekenburg, courtois, vorm, etc. neuer is typically a valdez. a very average goalie behind a powerful team.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:57pm On Oct 15, 2013
Katsumoto:


If you are referring to full backs, that maybe debatable. But if you are looking at all defenders, then Campbell, Ferdinand, Bobby Moore are all better than Lahm.

And it is not impossible for the Netherlands to beat Germany.
Campbell and Ferdinand better than Lahm?? Is it by the size of their head or the igbo wey dem dey smoke you dey use as your criteria
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:03pm On Oct 15, 2013
dayokanu: Take out Gomez and move Muller to the top with Kroos in the midfield

Well, your strategy will come into play if the manager finds the need to nullify the oppositions' probable threat in the middle of the park then dictate play sametime, cos Muller would basically operate as a false 9 in your setup.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 4:03pm On Oct 15, 2013
A-40:

Campbell and Ferdinand better than Lahm?? Is it by the size of their head or the igbo wey dem dey smoke you dey use as your criteria


IN MY OPINION - Campbell and Ferdinand are better than Lahm. Lahm is good going forward but is not that great defending. I wouldn't put him the class of the best full backs ever. Between the years 1998 and 2005, you will struggle to find up to 3 better than Campbell. Ferdinand has been at utd for more than a decade.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:03pm On Oct 15, 2013
coogar:

the same treble-winner? the same diminutive neville that made beckham a demi-god in england? 400 caps for united, about 80+ for england. i don't want to mention the number of his league titles & other honours....
.

Lahm is currently 29yrs, he is a treble winner, He has over 400 caps in the Bundesliga and 99 for Germany

5 Bundesliga, 1 Champions league one super cup and 4 nominations for Team of the Tournament at National Team competitions.

One has to be extremely retardded to compare lahm to Neville


compare him to de gea, mignolet, boruc, stelekenburg, courtois, vorm, etc. neuer is typically a valdez. a very average goalie behind a powerful team

Neuer to Cortoius, De Gea, Vorm and Mignolet? If there was any doubt about your insanity this removes all doubt
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:05pm On Oct 15, 2013
Katsumoto: IN MY OPINION - Campbell and Ferdinand are better than Lahm. Lahm is good going forward but is not that great defending. I wouldn't put him the class of the best full backs ever. Between the years 1998 and 2005, you will struggle to find up to 3 better than Campbell. Ferdinand has been at utd for more than a decade.

Lahm is the best Full Back in the last decade no argument about that.

There is a reason he makes team of the tournament every gaddem time

Abeg which Campbell is that? I hope thats not stiff Sol Campbel that gets turned in and out for the fun of it?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 4:06pm On Oct 15, 2013
dayokanu:
And you think anyone takes your opinion seriously. You should sit side by side with Ali Baba and Basket mouth

you are a tool....


LOL. Only a loon would put Lahm and Ashley on the same level. Ashley Cole is inferior to Alaba never mind Phillip Lahm

2 weeks ago Lahm sodomising EPLs finest





so lahm took the ball off jesus navas & gael clichy & that is his credentials that he's better than ashley cole? sometimes, i think you have a plastic dïck permanently attached to your rectum.

isn't this the same lahm nani destroyed some seasons ago. i'm talking mortal destruction & not some flukey drives. nani destroyed lahm in munich & old trafford. that was the first time nani ever scored 2 goals in his united career & he was up playing against lahm.


Mention how many countries have a better defensive back 4 than Germany. Boateng is currently better than any English CB and thats not even up for debate.

england, spain, italy, france, holland, etc. germany's strength have always & would always be in the midfield. isn't that the reason balotelli(a man city bench-warmer) destroyed germany about 12 months ago?



These tales of If my granny had a peenis he would have been my grandpa.
DIdnt Germany and Holland play at the Last Euros what was the result?

senegal once beat france in the group state of a world cup. by your below average deductive reasoning, senegal is greater than france?


Germany topped the group and Holland was last after being sodomised by Germany

see the senegal/france analogy - i don't waste words....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 4:12pm On Oct 15, 2013
dayokanu:
Lahm is currently 29yrs, he is a treble winner, He has over 400 caps in the Bundesliga and 99 for Germany

5 Bundesliga, 1 Champions league one super cup and 4 nominations for Team of the Tournament at National Team competitions.

One has to be extremely retardded to compare lahm to Neville

lahm has 5 bundesliga, neville has 8 league titles. lahm has one champions league title, neville had 2. i won't even compare other domestic competitons for their respective clubs. one has to be a compound fool to rate lahm over neville.


Neuer to Cortoius, De Gea, Vorm and Mignolet? If there was any doubt about your insanity this removes all doubt

neuer?
i wish that imposter had moved to the premier league instead of the bundesliga where his only threat is lewandowski. the same neuer that conceded 7 goals to united in 2011? he's so shyte, anderson scored twice against him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 4:15pm On Oct 15, 2013
Katsumoto:

IN MY OPINION - Campbell and Ferdinand are better than Lahm. Lahm is good going forward but is not that great defending. I wouldn't put him the class of the best full backs ever. Between the years 1998 and 2005, you will struggle to find up to 3 better than Campbell. Ferdinand has been at utd for more than a decade.
The beauty of greatness is that its not an opinion. Once you are great you are great [facts only]

Phillip Lahm 4 Team of the tournaments (Euros,WC) Multiple UEFA Team of the Year member

Its an insult to even compare Lahm to Sol Campbell or Rio Ferdinand. Sol who? Rio who? No wonder England cannot make the semis of any major tournament in almost two decades now when the press keep hyping up average and slightly above average players
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:23pm On Oct 15, 2013
coogar: you are a tool....
so lahm took the ball off jesus navas & gael clichy & that is his credentials that he's better than ashley cole? sometimes, i think you have a plastic dïck permanently attached to your rectum.

isn't this the same lahm nani destroyed some seasons ago. i'm talking mortal destruction & not some flukey drives. nani destroyed lahm in munich & old trafford. that was the first time nani ever scored 2 goals in his united career & he was up playing against lahm.

Is this the same Ashley Cole thats everyones bitch even ordinary Aaron lennon? Aaron lennon thats no better than Pius Ikedia.

He went to 2 tournament as a LB he made team of the tourney, He went to two as a TB he made team of the tourney. Its only a gorrila that would even mention Lahm in the same sentence witn any of those tools

If Lahm was English, He would be the prime Minister.

england, spain, italy, france, holland, etc. germany's strength have always & would always be in the midfield. isn't that the reason balotelli(a man city bench-warmer) destroyed germany about 12 months ago?

Now go ahead and name the back 4 for these countries and compare them with Lahm-Hummels-Boateng-Schmelzer.

About 12 months ago where was England, Holland and France back 4?


senegal once beat france in the group state of a world cup. by your below average deductive reasoning, senegal is greater than france?

Maye you should tell us the last time Holland beat Germany at Senior team competition. Holland ko Hollandis ni
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 4:27pm On Oct 15, 2013
dayokanu:

Lahm is the best Full Back in the last decade no argument about that.

There is a reason he makes team of the tournament every gaddem time

Abeg which Campbell is that? I hope thats not stiff Sol Campbel that gets turned in and out for the fun of it?

You take your anti-english bias too far. Who turned Campbell and when was he turned? Just admit that you don't really watch the premiership.

Lahm makes team of the tournament because he has been a consistent member of a consistent team. Perhaps his consistency gives him a good shout for one of the best full-backs in the last decade. But he hasn't been above other stand-out performers by a long shot.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:28pm On Oct 15, 2013
coogar:

lahm has 5 bundesliga, neville has 8 league titles. lahm has one champions league title, neville had 2. i won't even compare other domestic competitons for their respective clubs. one has to be a compound fool to rate lahm over neville..

neville has 2 CL interesting, tell us how many minutes he played in the 2007/2008 season when Manure won the CL

We are waiting


neuer?
i wish that imposter had moved to the premier league instead of the bundesliga where his only threat is lewandowski. the same neuer that conceded 7 goals to united in 2011? he's so shyte, anderson scored twice against him

Why would Neuer move to the EPL to start with? To compete with Joke Hart or De Gea or Sczezny or who?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:32pm On Oct 15, 2013
chic2pimp:

Germany get level abeg. Right alongside your[b] Spains and Brazils.[/b] Or at worst a bit below. And Italy will do well if we can keep our key players fit.

coogar:
against the spains, brazils, italys & netherlands, etc they would get eaten alive. on another continent apart from europe, they have a zero chance of winning it.

El Guapo:

Neuer is a good kid. Even the Netherlands, Spains, Brazils, Englands etc wouldnt boast of such safe hand in a longtime.

Can you guys just stop with this Crap?

There is only ONE Spain, ONE Brazil,and ONE England.

Thank you.

This is page 419 by the way tongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:33pm On Oct 15, 2013
Katsumoto: You take your anti-english bias too far. Who turned Campbell and when was he turned? Just admit that you don't really watch the premiership.

Lahm makes team of the tournament because he has been a consistent member of a consistent team. Perhaps his consistency gives him a good shout for one of the best full-backs in the last decade. But he hasn't been above other stand-out performers by a long shot.

Lahm has been consistently above every other full back in the last decade. Tell us Who are the other contenders we can consider and show us their achievements. Lahm is the Leader of the team both the National Team and the club.

He has been world class for almost the last 8yrs

Theres no anti English bias Its just telling it the way it is. England is a poor country in football simple. Its no coincidence that theyve not made a major semi finals for 17yrs now. If I tell you Joe Hart is a 3rd rate keeper you would say I have anti English bias. or wasnt this the same England that was molested by a bunch of German kids last world cup? Most of those who played the game for Germany were under 24yr at that time and had less than 10 caps before the competition.

The last world cup England was struggling to qualify in a group of USA, Algeria and Slovenia and you tell us about anti English bias. The only decent team they played brutally mauled them

Most english players would make the bench for other major footballing nation. Thats the fact.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 4:34pm On Oct 15, 2013
A-40:

The beauty of greatness is that its not an opinion. Once you are great you are great [facts only]

Phillip Lahm 4 Team of the tournaments (Euros,WC) Multiple UEFA Team of the Year member

Its an insult to even compare Lahm to Sol Campbell or Rio Ferdinand. Sol who? Rio who? No wonder England cannot make the semis of any major tournament in almost two decades now when the press keep hyping up average and slightly above average players

How is that a fact? How do you quantify and qualify this fact? Abeg leave this illogical greatness to the side.

I repeat, Lahm doesnt come to mind when discussing great defenders.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:35pm On Oct 15, 2013
Katsumoto:

You take your anti-english bias too far. Who turned Campbell and when was he turned? Just admit that you don't really watch the premiership.

Lahm makes team of the tournament because he has been a consistent member of a consistent team. Perhaps his consistency gives him a good shout for one of the best full-backs in the last decade. But he hasn't been above other stand-out performers by a long shot.

I call BS.

You just compared Cambell to Lahm? cheesy

What's the basis of Comparison?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:36pm On Oct 15, 2013
Katsumoto:

How is that a fact? How do you quantify and qualify this fact? Abeg leave this illogical greatness to the side.

I repeat, Lahm doesnt come to mind when discussing great defenders.

Lahm doesnt come to mind, But Campbell and Rio Ferdinand (Yakubus Biatch) comes to mind.

I wonder what other things come to your mind aside nakedd women and raunchy parties grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 4:38pm On Oct 15, 2013
dayokanu:
Is this the same Ashley Cole thats everyones bitch even ordinary Aaron lennon? Aaron lennon thats no better than Pius Ikedia.

we are talking about their respective peaks - ashley cole has waned over the years. we are talking of cole betwen 2004 & 2010.


He went to 2 tournament as a LB he made team of the tourney, He went to two as a TB he made team of the tourney. Its only a gorrila that would even mention Lahm in the same sentence witn any of those tools
If Lahm was English, He would be the prime Minister.

where did germany finish in those 2 tournaments? and isn't one of those tournaments hosted in germany where a malpractice by the germans had podolski as the best young player ahead of messi & cristiano?



Now go ahead and name the back 4 for these countries and compare them with Lahm-Hummels-Boateng-Schmelzer. About 12 months ago where was England, Holland and France back 4?

all the countries i listed earlier had a better defensive unit than germany but germany have a better team overall. it's like spain - they have a weak defence unit but it gets papered over by their excellent midfield & attack!!!


Maye you should tell us the last time Holland beat Germany at Senior team competition. Holland ko Hollandis ni

they have a more balanced team than you lots.

van persie > gomez/muller
sneijder > goetze
robben > podolski
van der vaart = ozil.
de jong/van bommel > bastian/khedira.
their defence unit > germany's defence unit.
vorm/stelekenburg/krul > neuer & co.

even van gaal > joachim löw!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 4:39pm On Oct 15, 2013
dayokanu:

Lahm has been consistently above every other full back in the last decade. Tell us Who are the other contenders we can consider and show us their achievements. Lahm is the Leader of the team both the National Team and the club.

He has been world class for almost the last 8yrs

Theres no anti English bias Its just telling it the way it is. England is a poor country in football simple. Its no coincidence that theyve not made a major semi finals for 17yrs now. If I tell you Joe Hart is a 3rd rate keeper you would say I have anti English bias. or wasnt this the same England that was molested by a bunch of German kids last world cup? Most of those who played the game for Germany were under 24yr at that time and had less than 10 caps before the competition.

The last world cup England was struggling to qualify in a group of USA, Algeria and Slovenia and you tell us about anti English bias. The only decent team they played brutally mauled them

Most english players would make the bench for other major footballing nation. Thats the fact.

i am not stating that England is a great footballing nation but even nations that aren't great at football produce great players. For instance Weah, Giggs, Best.

And I don't rate Hart as well.

Your comparisons are illogical because you use team success to judge individuals. If you take Germany side by side with England, they are not mates. Germany is much better but that doesn't mean all German players are better than all English players. There are English players who are good enough that they would have played for Germany if they were German.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:40pm On Oct 15, 2013
Someone says anti English bias. In my adult life England has missed 2 major International tournament because they couldnt qualify.

In my dads adult life he couldnt tell me the last time that happened to Germany

Since Barack Obama has been conscious of his environment and off diapers he has never seen England lift a major tournament and He is currently full of grey hairs yet someone had the nerve to mention England and Germany in the same sentence discussing football
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 4:41pm On Oct 15, 2013
GustavoFring:

I call BS.

You just compared Cambell to Lahm? cheesy

What's the basis of Comparison?

Defending - I rate Campbell higher in defending. I don't care about no freaking awards by UEFA or FIFA. I am judging for myself as a football lover.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:43pm On Oct 15, 2013
Katsumoto:

i am not stating that England is a great footballing nation but even nations that aren't great at football produce great players. For instance Weah, Giggs, Best.

And I don't rate Hart as well.

Your comparisons are illogical because you use team success to judge individuals. If you take Germany side by side with England, they are not mates. Germany is much better but that doesn't mean all German players are better than all English players. There are England players who are good enough that they would have played for Germany if they were German.

Isnt it the players that make a team or its just the flag that they call a team?

In this current generation Maybe only 1 or 2 English players would make a german 23. England whose best striker is Rickie Lambert. and Peter Crouch led the attack to a world cup

I'll be damned
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:43pm On Oct 15, 2013
coogar:





they have a more balanced team than you lots.

van persie > gomez/muller
sneijder > goetze
robben > podolski
van der vaart = ozil.
de jong/van bommel > bastian/khedira.

their defence unit > germany's defence unit.
vorm/stelekenburg/krul > neuer & co.

even van gaal > joachim löw!

I agree with this except for the bolded.

De Jong/ retired Van Bommel better than Bastian/Khedira? grin

Vorm better than Neuer cheesy cheesy

Van der Vaart = Ozil grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 4:45pm On Oct 15, 2013
dayokanu:
neville has 2 CL interesting, tell us how many minutes he played in the 2007/2008 season when Manure won the CL
We are waiting

who cares? was neville in the squad that won the CL in 07/08? yes, he was!!!



Why would Neuer move to the EPL to start with? To compete with Joke Hart or De Gea or Sczezny or who?

he's not even rated here to be honest, he impregnated 7 goals the last time he faced a very weak united side. 7 goals in 180 mins? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:45pm On Oct 15, 2013
Katsumoto:

Defending - I rate Campbell higher in defending. I don't care about no freaking awards by UEFA or FIFA. I am judging for myself as a football lover.

So you would compare a Gareth Bale to Sergio Busquets since they are both midfielders no? cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:46pm On Oct 15, 2013
coogar: we are talking about their respective peaks - ashley cole has waned over the years. we are talking of cole betwen 2004 & 2010.

And what did Ashley Cole achieve at his peak other than being embarassed everytime he meets a half decent winger


all the countries i listed earlier had a better defensive unit than germany but germany have a better team overall. it's like spain - they have a weak defence unit but it gets papered over by their excellent midfield & attack!!!

And mention the players who constitute these defensive unit and how they are better than Lahm-Hummels-Boateng-Schmelzer. We are waiting ..

they have a more balanced team than you lots.

van persie > gomez/muller
sneijder > goetze
robben > podolski
van der vaart = ozil.
de jong/van bommel > bastian/khedira.
their defence unit > germany's defence unit.
vorm/stelekenburg/krul > neuer & co.

even van gaal > joachim löw!

They are more balanced yet they have always have their asses handed over to them most times. Including the last Euros. Tell us the last time Holland beat Germany in Senior team football
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 4:48pm On Oct 15, 2013
Katsumoto:

How is that a fact? How do you quantify and qualify this fact? Abeg leave this illogical greatness to the side.

I repeat, Lahm doesnt come to mind when discussing great defenders.
How else do we quantify it besides his individual and collective awards!

Obviously you must know better than the Technical Study groups that keep voting Phillip Lahm into all-star teams year in year out for more than half a decade now both for club and country. You also know more than Pep Guardiola that tagged him the most intelligent player he has ever coached. At LB or RB he is better than 99% of his contemporaries

Like I said before greatness is not an opinion

Katsumoto:

Defending - I rate Campbell higher in defending. I don't care about no freaking awards by UEFA or FIFA. I am judging for myself as a football lover.
As a boxing lover I can also say Bash Ali is better than Vitali Klitschko this doesn't make it fact
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 4:49pm On Oct 15, 2013
GustavoFring:
I agree with this except for the bolded.

De Jong/ retired Van Bommel better than Bastian/Khedira? grin

de jong/van bommel played in the final, bastian/khedira did not.


Vorm better than Neuer cheesy cheesy
Van der Vaart = Ozil grin grin grin

like i said, neuer plays in a better team than vorm. his team covers for him. in his previous club, he conceded 7 goals in 180 mins against the weakest united side playing in the K.O. of the champions league. vorm would never concede 7 against a united side.

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