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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 3:41pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
coogar: I don't know about Gary Neville though. And Neuer is not a shiite goalie. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 3:48pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
coogar: neuer is the shittiest goalie in western europe.... And you think anyone takes your opinion seriously. You should sit side by side with Ali Baba and Basket mouth lahm is not better than ashley cole - he's just lucky to be born a german. if lahm was english, he couldn't have given more than ashley has offered england. LOL. Only a loon would put Lahm and Ashley on the same level. Ashley Cole is inferior to Alaba never mind Phillip Lahm 2 weeks ago Lahm sodomising EPLs finest lahm & hummels? very strong!!! however, you need more than 2 pieces to form a defensive unit. boateng is the same as matt upson & ryan shawcross is better than schmelzer.Mention how many countries have a better defensive back 4 than Germany. Boateng is currently better than any English CB and thats not even up for debate. you are a lunatic! if the sneijder team that destroyed brazil in the last world cup had faced germany, nazism would have been brought back to europe. robben would have made a minced-meat out of lahm or any zombie tasked to mark him. These tales of If my granny had a peenis he would have been my grandpa. DIdnt Germany and Holland play at the Last Euros what was the result? Germany topped the group and Holland was last after being sodomised by Germany |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:49pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
coogar: for starters, they have a shyte keeper. there's room for improvement though but it seems neuer has lost that precocious ability of his when he was at schalke. You're confusing starters with tis ya criticisms Neuer is a good kid. Even the Netherlands, Spains, Brazils, Englands etc wouldnt boast of such safe hand in a longtime. Inasmuch as the defence is a suspect, i think there are decent personnels down that department. I'd personally set them up this way Lahm [Rb] Boateng [CB] Hummels [CB] Schmelzer [LB] -- Gundogan [DM] Schwiensteiger [DM] -- Reus [RM] Muller [AM] Ozil [LM] -- Gomez [CF]. Nice team that can shyte on any turf. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 3:52pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Take out Gomez and move Muller to the top with Kroos in the midfield |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 3:55pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Katsumoto: the same treble-winner? the same diminutive neville that made beckham a demi-god in england? 400 caps for united, about 80+ for england. i don't want to mention the number of his league titles & other honours....
compare him to de gea, mignolet, boruc, stelekenburg, courtois, vorm, etc. neuer is typically a valdez. a very average goalie behind a powerful team. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:57pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Katsumoto:Campbell and Ferdinand better than Lahm?? Is it by the size of their head or the igbo wey dem dey smoke you dey use as your criteria |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:03pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
dayokanu: Take out Gomez and move Muller to the top with Kroos in the midfield Well, your strategy will come into play if the manager finds the need to nullify the oppositions' probable threat in the middle of the park then dictate play sametime, cos Muller would basically operate as a false 9 in your setup. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 4:03pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
A-40: IN MY OPINION - Campbell and Ferdinand are better than Lahm. Lahm is good going forward but is not that great defending. I wouldn't put him the class of the best full backs ever. Between the years 1998 and 2005, you will struggle to find up to 3 better than Campbell. Ferdinand has been at utd for more than a decade. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:03pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
coogar: Lahm is currently 29yrs, he is a treble winner, He has over 400 caps in the Bundesliga and 99 for Germany 5 Bundesliga, 1 Champions league one super cup and 4 nominations for Team of the Tournament at National Team competitions. One has to be extremely retardded to compare lahm to Neville
Neuer to Cortoius, De Gea, Vorm and Mignolet? If there was any doubt about your insanity this removes all doubt |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:05pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Katsumoto: IN MY OPINION - Campbell and Ferdinand are better than Lahm. Lahm is good going forward but is not that great defending. I wouldn't put him the class of the best full backs ever. Between the years 1998 and 2005, you will struggle to find up to 3 better than Campbell. Ferdinand has been at utd for more than a decade. Lahm is the best Full Back in the last decade no argument about that. There is a reason he makes team of the tournament every gaddem time Abeg which Campbell is that? I hope thats not stiff Sol Campbel that gets turned in and out for the fun of it? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 4:06pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
dayokanu: you are a tool....
so lahm took the ball off jesus navas & gael clichy & that is his credentials that he's better than ashley cole? sometimes, i think you have a plastic dïck permanently attached to your rectum. isn't this the same lahm nani destroyed some seasons ago. i'm talking mortal destruction & not some flukey drives. nani destroyed lahm in munich & old trafford. that was the first time nani ever scored 2 goals in his united career & he was up playing against lahm.
england, spain, italy, france, holland, etc. germany's strength have always & would always be in the midfield. isn't that the reason balotelli(a man city bench-warmer) destroyed germany about 12 months ago?
senegal once beat france in the group state of a world cup. by your below average deductive reasoning, senegal is greater than france?
see the senegal/france analogy - i don't waste words.... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 4:12pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
dayokanu: lahm has 5 bundesliga, neville has 8 league titles. lahm has one champions league title, neville had 2. i won't even compare other domestic competitons for their respective clubs. one has to be a compound fool to rate lahm over neville.
neuer? i wish that imposter had moved to the premier league instead of the bundesliga where his only threat is lewandowski. the same neuer that conceded 7 goals to united in 2011? he's so shyte, anderson scored twice against him. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 4:15pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Katsumoto:The beauty of greatness is that its not an opinion. Once you are great you are great [facts only] Phillip Lahm 4 Team of the tournaments (Euros,WC) Multiple UEFA Team of the Year member Its an insult to even compare Lahm to Sol Campbell or Rio Ferdinand. Sol who? Rio who? No wonder England cannot make the semis of any major tournament in almost two decades now when the press keep hyping up average and slightly above average players |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:23pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
coogar: you are a tool.... Is this the same Ashley Cole thats everyones bitch even ordinary Aaron lennon? Aaron lennon thats no better than Pius Ikedia. He went to 2 tournament as a LB he made team of the tourney, He went to two as a TB he made team of the tourney. Its only a gorrila that would even mention Lahm in the same sentence witn any of those tools If Lahm was English, He would be the prime Minister. england, spain, italy, france, holland, etc. germany's strength have always & would always be in the midfield. isn't that the reason balotelli(a man city bench-warmer) destroyed germany about 12 months ago? Now go ahead and name the back 4 for these countries and compare them with Lahm-Hummels-Boateng-Schmelzer. About 12 months ago where was England, Holland and France back 4? senegal once beat france in the group state of a world cup. by your below average deductive reasoning, senegal is greater than france? Maye you should tell us the last time Holland beat Germany at Senior team competition. Holland ko Hollandis ni |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 4:27pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
dayokanu: You take your anti-english bias too far. Who turned Campbell and when was he turned? Just admit that you don't really watch the premiership. Lahm makes team of the tournament because he has been a consistent member of a consistent team. Perhaps his consistency gives him a good shout for one of the best full-backs in the last decade. But he hasn't been above other stand-out performers by a long shot. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:28pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
coogar: neville has 2 CL interesting, tell us how many minutes he played in the 2007/2008 season when Manure won the CL We are waiting neuer? Why would Neuer move to the EPL to start with? To compete with Joke Hart or De Gea or Sczezny or who? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:32pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
chic2pimp: coogar: El Guapo: Can you guys just stop with this Crap? There is only ONE Spain, ONE Brazil,and ONE England. Thank you. This is page 419 by the way |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:33pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Katsumoto: You take your anti-english bias too far. Who turned Campbell and when was he turned? Just admit that you don't really watch the premiership. Lahm has been consistently above every other full back in the last decade. Tell us Who are the other contenders we can consider and show us their achievements. Lahm is the Leader of the team both the National Team and the club. He has been world class for almost the last 8yrs Theres no anti English bias Its just telling it the way it is. England is a poor country in football simple. Its no coincidence that theyve not made a major semi finals for 17yrs now. If I tell you Joe Hart is a 3rd rate keeper you would say I have anti English bias. or wasnt this the same England that was molested by a bunch of German kids last world cup? Most of those who played the game for Germany were under 24yr at that time and had less than 10 caps before the competition. The last world cup England was struggling to qualify in a group of USA, Algeria and Slovenia and you tell us about anti English bias. The only decent team they played brutally mauled them Most english players would make the bench for other major footballing nation. Thats the fact. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 4:34pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
A-40: How is that a fact? How do you quantify and qualify this fact? Abeg leave this illogical greatness to the side. I repeat, Lahm doesnt come to mind when discussing great defenders. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:35pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Katsumoto: I call BS. You just compared Cambell to Lahm? What's the basis of Comparison? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:36pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Lahm doesnt come to mind, But Campbell and Rio Ferdinand (Yakubus Biatch) comes to mind. I wonder what other things come to your mind aside nakedd women and raunchy parties |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 4:38pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
dayokanu: we are talking about their respective peaks - ashley cole has waned over the years. we are talking of cole betwen 2004 & 2010.
where did germany finish in those 2 tournaments? and isn't one of those tournaments hosted in germany where a malpractice by the germans had podolski as the best young player ahead of messi & cristiano?
all the countries i listed earlier had a better defensive unit than germany but germany have a better team overall. it's like spain - they have a weak defence unit but it gets papered over by their excellent midfield & attack!!!
they have a more balanced team than you lots. van persie > gomez/muller sneijder > goetze robben > podolski van der vaart = ozil. de jong/van bommel > bastian/khedira. their defence unit > germany's defence unit. vorm/stelekenburg/krul > neuer & co. even van gaal > joachim löw! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 4:39pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
dayokanu: i am not stating that England is a great footballing nation but even nations that aren't great at football produce great players. For instance Weah, Giggs, Best. And I don't rate Hart as well. Your comparisons are illogical because you use team success to judge individuals. If you take Germany side by side with England, they are not mates. Germany is much better but that doesn't mean all German players are better than all English players. There are English players who are good enough that they would have played for Germany if they were German. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:40pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Someone says anti English bias. In my adult life England has missed 2 major International tournament because they couldnt qualify. In my dads adult life he couldnt tell me the last time that happened to Germany Since Barack Obama has been conscious of his environment and off diapers he has never seen England lift a major tournament and He is currently full of grey hairs yet someone had the nerve to mention England and Germany in the same sentence discussing football |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 4:41pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
GustavoFring: Defending - I rate Campbell higher in defending. I don't care about no freaking awards by UEFA or FIFA. I am judging for myself as a football lover. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:43pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Isnt it the players that make a team or its just the flag that they call a team? In this current generation Maybe only 1 or 2 English players would make a german 23. England whose best striker is Rickie Lambert. and Peter Crouch led the attack to a world cup I'll be damned |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:43pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
coogar: I agree with this except for the bolded. De Jong/ retired Van Bommel better than Bastian/Khedira? Vorm better than Neuer Van der Vaart = Ozil |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 4:45pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
dayokanu: who cares? was neville in the squad that won the CL in 07/08? yes, he was!!!
he's not even rated here to be honest, he impregnated 7 goals the last time he faced a very weak united side. 7 goals in 180 mins? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:45pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Katsumoto: So you would compare a Gareth Bale to Sergio Busquets since they are both midfielders no? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:46pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
coogar: we are talking about their respective peaks - ashley cole has waned over the years. we are talking of cole betwen 2004 & 2010. And what did Ashley Cole achieve at his peak other than being embarassed everytime he meets a half decent winger
And mention the players who constitute these defensive unit and how they are better than Lahm-Hummels-Boateng-Schmelzer. We are waiting .. they have a more balanced team than you lots. They are more balanced yet they have always have their asses handed over to them most times. Including the last Euros. Tell us the last time Holland beat Germany in Senior team football |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 4:48pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Katsumoto:How else do we quantify it besides his individual and collective awards! Obviously you must know better than the Technical Study groups that keep voting Phillip Lahm into all-star teams year in year out for more than half a decade now both for club and country. You also know more than Pep Guardiola that tagged him the most intelligent player he has ever coached. At LB or RB he is better than 99% of his contemporaries Like I said before greatness is not an opinion Katsumoto:As a boxing lover I can also say Bash Ali is better than Vitali Klitschko this doesn't make it fact |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 4:49pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
GustavoFring: de jong/van bommel played in the final, bastian/khedira did not.
like i said, neuer plays in a better team than vorm. his team covers for him. in his previous club, he conceded 7 goals in 180 mins against the weakest united side playing in the K.O. of the champions league. vorm would never concede 7 against a united side. |
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