VantagePoint:
Now you single out physiotherapists.
Are nurses, pharmacists, medical laboratory scientists "trained to diagnose and prescribe treatment"?
Who is misinforming Nigerians?

VantagePoint:
A consultant physiotherapist.
Are physiotherapists also fighting for this?
The last time I had a relative in UCH, I knew of the existence of consultant physiotherapists (I stand to be corrected).

sogodihno: In a letter dated 12th June and published on Thursday, Guardian of June 19th 2014 Medical And Dental Consultants’Association of Nigeria through their principal solicitor and counsel, Jitti Ogunnye, Esq., had written a letter to the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, GCFR, and had raised a lot of issues . She wrote “ we wish to draw the attention of Your Excellency to the “agreement” said to have been reached at ameeting that was held in Abuja, FCT between the Joint HealthSector Unions(JOHESU) and Assembly of Healthcare Professional Associations(AHPA), with the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF),Senator Anyim Pius Anyim, GCON, Honourable Minister of Labour and Productivity, Honourable Minister of Health, Chairman, Salaries, Income and Wages Commission, Head of the Service of the Federation, and other Top Government Functionaries on the 5th of June 2014.Three of these agreements are of concern to our clients since they have grave implications for the management and survival of the Health Sector in Nigeria”.In the said letter MDCAN raised issues she wants the Government to address, for she has put the Government on notice that she will fully comply with and enhance any directive(including embarking on strike action or withdrawal of services) that the NMA may wish to issue at the expiration of the ultimatum. That MDCAN is constrained to tow this line,in spite of her usual traditional moderation whenever there are strikes in the hospital. The consequence is that no medical and dental consultant shall be available to render service in all our Teaching Hospitals, nationwide, in the eventof such a strike action.MDCANS’ GROUSE(1) MDCAN is opposed to the appointment of other Medical Personnel as Consultant.MDCAN is opposed to the circular no MH/PM/138/VOL.111/79 of 16th may, 2014 that restored consultancy status to other Healthcare Professionals and approving the payment ofspecialist allowance to other Healthcare Professionals.(2) MDCAN is against Government position to have accepted JOHESU/AHPA’s position and demand that the illegal office of the DCMAC be abolished.(3) MDCAN is opposed to Government’s agreement with JOHESU to refer a number of issues to Yayale Ahmed committee. These issues include the review of the process ofappointment of Chief Medical Directors and Medical Directors of Teaching Hospitals and the agitation of JOHESU/AHPA that appointment of Chief Medical Directors and Medical Directors be made from permanent staff of Teaching Hospitals rather than from the Universities. And theGovernment will to look into the lopsidedness of advertorial for appointment of CMDs/MDs which is skewed in favour of Medical and Dental Practitioners and the agitation of JOHESU/AHPA that the appointment process be made open to all “competent and qualified health professionals”; the AbdullahiBello Presidential committee report on harmony in the HealthSector; and the interpretation on who is “medically qualified”As a result of the issues stated above MDCAN has called on the Government to rescind her decision. And if the Government does not, MDCAN will join NMA in the forth coming industrial action in which NMA has given the Government a 14 days ultimatum. At this juncture one is poised to ask are the reasons given by MDCAN to justify her claims and to down tools cogent? Let us go through her reasons.(a) Appointment of other Healthcare Professionals as Consultants.According to MDCAN appointing a Pharmacist, Physiotherapist, Nurse, Medical Laboratory Scientist, etc as consultants in their chosen field are an aberration and an oddity. MDCAN had written “designating or appointing Nurses, Pharmacist or Physiotherapist or Laboratory Technicians ‘Consultants’ in the Health Sector is, therefore, an aberration, and a pervasion of order of care in the Health Sector. Under this order of care, there is no rule that can accommodate this designation or appointment of non-medical doctors as Consultants, even if some managers of Public Hospitals in Nigeria want to invent the absurdity. In the medical profession, Nurse, Pharmacists, Physiotherapists are not trained to make diagnosis and prescribe treatment’. MDCAN went further to write ‘Your Excellency, the oddity and aberration of this agreement by theFederal Government of Nigeria and JOHESU and AHPA on extension of Consultancy Statuses to all Health Professionals is not only that it is professionally and administratively perverse. It is also a legal absurdity.”(b) The Government of Nigeria was in error to obey Court Judgment/concede to JOHESU to have restored Consultant Status to other Health Professionals without consulting MDCAN. MDCAN wrote through their lawyer “Your Excellency, our client vehemently disagree with the reported agreements. As our client has consistently maintained, they are an Association of Medical and Dental Consultants, who, exclusive of other Professionals in the Health Sector, are known and addressed as “Consultants”. Negotiating and agreeing with non- medical and dental practitioners in the health sector, and designating them “Consultants”, such that there will now be multiplicity of Consultants in the Teaching Hospitals, is not acceptable; and even if it were, this cannot be done in the absence of Association of Medical Practitioners.(NMA, MDCAN, etcetera)(c ) MDCAN is of the opinion that the NIC Judgement in favour of JOHESU was in error.She wrote “following the determination of suit no. NICN/ABJ/238/2012 (the Trade Union members of the Joint Health Sector Unions (JOHESU),namely1) Medical and Health Workers Union of Nigeria;(2)National Association of Nigeria Nurses and Midwifes;(3)Senior Staff Association of Universities Teaching Hospital, Research Institutes and Associated Institutions;(4)Nigerian Union of Pharmacists, Medical Technologists and Professions Allied to Medicine;(5)Non Academic Staff Union of Educational and Associated Institutions vs Federal Ministry of Health) on Monday, the 22nd day of July,2013 by Hon B.A Adejumo (Presiding Judge),Hon. Justice B.B Kanyip and Justice M.N. Esowe, wherein the National Industrial Court held that a few non-medical and dental practitioners aberrantly appointed asConsultants in University College Hospital, Ibadan should continue to enjoy that status, the Federal Ministry of Health (that is the Federal Government of Nigeria) appealed that decision, and our client, MDCAN also approached the National Industrial Court with an application to set aside the judgment. The appeal and application are pending in courts.(D) That the action of the Government to obey Court Judgment amounts to contempt.MDCAN through their lawyer wrote “the so called agreement on the extension of consultancy status to all Health Professional and thus purported issuance of a circular to thateffect is contemptuous of the courts. It undermines and subverts the majesty, dignity, and integrity of the courts; it is illegal and it is an affront on the rule of law.”(E) MDCAN rejects the abolishment of the office of DCMACMDCAN wrote through her lawyer “Your Excellency, our clientalso rejects the agreement to abolish the post of Deputy Chairman Medical Advisory Committee (DCMAC).Our client’s position is that the creation of the post, which has been in our Teaching Hospitals for more than twenty years, is within the administrative powers and competence of the Governing Boards of the Teaching Hospitals as defined in their respective Governing statutes establishing them. This position, which facilitates smooth management of the Teaching Hospitals, cannot be scrapped because of the whims and caprices of non-medical doctors, on the flimsy ground that they are excluded from consideration in filling of that position. For the avoidance of any doubt, it is instructive that the University Teaching Hospitals (Reconstruction of Boards, etc) Act, CAPU15, VOL 15, Laws of the Federation of Nigeria, 2004 ,provides in section 7(4) (Function of the Board)that “Subject to the this Act, the Board shall have powers to do anything ,which, in its opinion, is calculated to facilitates the carrying out of its functions under this act “.(F) MDCAN is opp

Exmay: . If being a Professor = Consultant, then na only Professor of Law pple go dey consult on law matters... Please do the needful and get enlighten before commenting...

advocate666: One day, we will all go naked inside planes. For safety reasons of course!

advocate666: One day, we will all go naked inside planes. For safety reasons of course!

rutchiekens:

My argument was with Abraham2013 but since u getting head over heels with yourself..... U're welcome..

Here are some countries:

Argentina
Greece
Denmark
Brazil
Sweden
Finland
Norway.

To mention a few

rutchiekens:

Its been very sensible and realistic... Countries that are not as rich as Nigeria are doing it so why can't Nigeria do it.

Future generations would benefit from this.. Most of the politicians today had free education when Nigeria depended solely on agriculture.

If u continue supporting wicked motives I'll classify you a political bigot and b:itch.

cramjones: Typical of the Jonathanians. You call of a strike that you did not call for in the first place? It is only under Jonathan that nurses, pharmacists, physiotherapist etc has the guts to tussle the leadership of teaching hospitals with doctors. I support and endorse the doctors strike, it is fight to finish before vagabonds take your rightful place!

#Nigeria-on-the-brink

-CramJones

rutchiekens:

So because naija govt does not want to its duties I should wake up from what... This is about the people that can't afford to send their kids to private schools...

If Naija govt can't do its basic duties the day the poor decide to revolt even the middle class would tremble in fear.

Greenified:
Over-population is not an excuse, what we ask for is not too much but simple and clear...
"We want to enjoy what our wicked leaders enjoyed too" #free education

Greenified:
Over-population is not an excuse, what we ask for is not too much but simple and clear...
"We want to enjoy what our wicked leaders enjoyed too" #free education

rutchiekens:

Shut up!!!

If 3 states is larger than Finland. Then u just answered Nigeria's problem... Most Nigerians know the problem but they don't want to face it. Sooner or later Nigerians will have no choice but to face it

Apatheist:
LMAO.
Do you know they don't pay school fees in Finland?
Do you know they don't have oil?

If we are to pay fees we should adopt the bursary and student loan system used in the USA.

duniya @zola:
suggest how best union should go about stuffs lyk dis

tit:

una don come again.
he don win ekiti.
he will win osun and takeover adamawa
and you will still be saying shoeless, clueless, ballless.
who be the mumu?

vicadex07: Jonathan or boko haram don't need to. PDP's chance of winning anywhere in the southwest is 50:50 which is evident in the recent Ekiti elections. Yoruba people are very liberal and most usually vote out of reason and not sentiments unlike most of the people in the north. They are most likely to vote for a man who is both a muslim and from the North which makes Buhari a very formidable political opponent. But once the North is rulled out of the electoral process due to the current state of emergency and state of insecurity, then there is nothing or no one else whatsover that will stop Jonathan from winning come 2015. His people are definitely going to vote for him enmass plus about 50% of votes from southwest. Pls OPEN your eyes Nigerians.

vicadex07: How come bombs
only explode in states not loyal to the Jonathan re-
election bid? Kano, Adamawa, Yobe, kaduna, Imo,
Rivers, Lagos?
This is what i think. i think jonathan is using boko
haram to create chaos in those states so that he
can have a reason to deploy heavy security
personnel to the states ( Ekiti Case study) to
intimidate the voters during election.
Another game plan i see playing out is that
Jonathan would force Jega (INEC) to abort Election
in Boko Haram affected areas, citing insecurity
menace, and only conduct the presidential
election in states that are boko haram free, in
other words Jonathan's Strong Holds.
The bomb blasts in Abuja is just to give the whole
scheme a nationalistic view so that people would
not start suspecting. I don't see any reason why
boko haram is growing stronger even in the midst
of heavy presence of our gallant and
internationally acclaimed Nigerian army. The only
explanation is that there is a collaboration
between the federation and boko haram. Chibok
girls is a diversion. If the girls were not kidnapped then Jonathan has them. The Northerners cant be
killing their own people. It doesn't work that way.
Its someone from outside that is doing this dirty
business for Jonathan like a contract (probably what our 20 billion dollars was used for, and much more). We already know how desperate and ruthless he is. So this is not exactly
a revelation. THIS IS THE REASON WHY THE WHOLE NORTH is AFRAID. Jonathan is boko haram

davdandam: Where's Isaac promise,lukman haruna, rabiu Ibrahim?

mikeansy:

Pep Guardiola played football at the highest level and captained Barcelona!

He did not come from no where.

Arsenate: too many ignorant guys on this thread. you guys really need to travel more, seriously. life doesn't start and end in Lagos or whatever southern state you are most likely residing in.
don't mean no insult, but the ignorance on display here is appalling

Laalamed:
doctors do not own the hospitals yes i agree. but know that patients come to see doctors. doctors plan patients management ,admit patients and discharge as well. if other health professionals want to head hospitals let them start consulting. if u want administrators let administrators take over all other sectors viz engineering, pharmaceutical industries,education, power, bank etc.

Laalamed:
doctors do not own the hospitals yes i agree. but know that patients come to see doctors. doctors plan patients management ,admit patients and discharge as well. if other health professionals want to head hospitals let them start consulting. if u want administrators let administrators take over all other sectors viz engineering, pharmaceutical industries,education, power, bank etc.

centje: i agree with you.

Mr president set up a committee to travel to other countries,see how they run their health system and report back with recommendations. But somehow the non-doctors association (JOHESU) rejected the committee.

plendil: The headship of hospitals should be left to medical doctors. That is the practice anywhere in the world.